Best Affordable Scooter - Better Than Electric? Yamaha RayZR Review

[@joewyatt2407]

It has a nice chunky look about it. With current battery limits, I think combustion scooters and mopeds will be around for a long time unless something dramatically changes. It’s good to see the established brands making an effort to stay competitive in this particular segment rather than pulling out and trying to just sell top end premium vehicles like a lot of the car manufacturers seem to be doing…

[@sham27007]

Can you do a real world fuel comparison between this and the suzuki address.

[@joshsimpkin4337]

125MPG on Ray ZR everything from filtering to top speed runs Stick to speed limits and could achieve even more! 👍

[@chris191168]

Nice scooter for The money and great review

[@StartledPancake]

The problem with all the electric scooters is the charging speed, no reason why they cant charge in an hour or two, its just that they just have crappy chargers fitted. A 4 kWh battery is about 400 bucks these days, so battery cost isnt really a factor. I did a lot of commuting on scooters but the drive belt and engine servicing (small motors need a lot of oil changes) really put me off them in the end. Fun for blasting around town, but for anything about 5k a year petrol scooters are a pain in the arse.

[@pauls8456]

Honda cb125f is so fuel efficient it must be cheaper than an electric motorcycle over its life span.

[@vask3863]

With over 600Km range in one tank.

[@robertarcher8576]

You can buy less than 5 litre fuel at most places

[@1960ARC]

Very good review. Also with a battery bike, you need to include the cost of replacement batteries, as they don't last long. I ride a honda sh125i, which does make it up to 70 and does around 130 mpg. I do approx 20,000 miles a year and batteries last around 20,000 miles at the most, faster charging will reduce life span. So what ever the batteries cost divide that by 12 month to give monthly cost of fuel / charge. Also do you do with the dead batteries, is that environmentally friendly?

[@BikeMatters]

All very good points! Particularly what happens to the batteries once they've been used up...

[@AdamForeman]

The biggest draw for EV's, both cars and motorcycles, is the acceleration. That's it. The whole charging, poor infrastructure, initial high price, the price of replacement batteries long term, the 2nd hand prices, resale value and of course what happens to the car/bike in 10 years? Will it still be a viable form of transport or will it be in the scrap yard? If you want to be "green", EV's aren't green at all in the overall long term life of the vehicle. The only reason people are buying them is the initial cool factor and that "Omg! How fast is this! 0-60 secs". Personally, I'm more intelligent to see further than that.

[@mellymoo_eats]

Do a review on the Vmoto Stash!

[@md.salehulislam9359]

I got top speed of 74km/h. 63km/litre Octane. @Bangladesh.

[@capricornmagic63]

six foot free, follwed by full fro'el, follwed by two fousand free undred pounds finishing with liberally thrown in free batteries and free pinned plug.

[@BikeMatters]

That was quite fun to read, thank you! Sorry, I mean, fank you

[@sibbolo9204]

Best cheap is QJ Motors ATR 125 Hybrid, combine the good of the 2 world, fuel consumption is almost unexisting, over 50 km/l (sorry i'm from italy) plus electric motor assit until 90 km/h, giving a surplus power when starting, cost me around 3000 euros with TCS, rear and front ABS spoke wheel TFT screen with smartphone mirroring. This one is junk compared to sorry about

[@alexanderkuruvilla3094]

I've test ridden the same scooter albeit the base model with the analog console. I don't if its with the India model, but I felt the built quality was subpar. The plastics felt thin and the console looked low effort, something I didn't expect from yamaha. We already own two generations of the honda dio and was looking at a third vehicle. Coming from that even though it is slightly faster, the ray felt even tinier with the shorter handle and the compact shape and the design, lete say overdone

[@rtoward7275]

How is this better than Suzuki address'?

[@scooterkev6978]

Its not...and no i havent ridden rayzr but it looks slow top end for sure . If you take 4mph of indicated speed the suzuki would be a spec in the distance ahead. Mind you 180 mpg quoted for this thing is fantastic if its somewhere near even.

[@kevinmurtagh3434]

My SYM fiddle iii was cheaper to buy than my electric bike , and cheaper to run.

[@robertarcher8576]

Today’s equivalent of Honda C90?

[@gpwisbey]

its not minimun 5 litres it just means thats the minimun that they can measure properly you can have one litre but they cant garentee its 1 litre

[@BikeMatters]

Didn't know this, always thought you had to have the 'minimum delivery of 5 litres' so always just did that! 😅

[@robertarcher8576]

Yamaha claim electric assist when moving off - did you notice this?

[@interestsavvy6813]

That assist usually comes on when you need more power, typically on an uphill or more strenuous acceleration.

[@BikeMatters]

I think with me on board counts as strenuous acceleration at all times. Fairly impressive 0-30 mph with just 8bhp and 99 kg weight, though!

[@BikeMatters]

I did in the initial acceleration 0-30 mph, as it was quite impressive for 8 bhp and 99 kg (and with me on).

[@AthenaAthena-lp3dt]

Very exciting video. Our company has a motorcycle audio system with front and rear cameras. Looking forward to cooperating with you. How can I contact you?

[@sham27007]

This scooter is not in Japanese domestic market. Which is strange. 180mpg compared to the 148mpg suzuki address which is good but suzuki have always had more realistic mpg figures in the past.

[@BikeMatters]

Huh, very interesting. I'd have thought it would be in as many markets as possible, especially Yamaha's home market..