Best ✔ BEGINNER ✔ Adventure Motorcycles for 2022 👍

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@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын
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@anisbouderbala4562
@anisbouderbala4562 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. What do you think of the SWM 650? Many Thanks
@insatiable_mind
@insatiable_mind 2 жыл бұрын
One milion RPM? 😂🤣😂
@got_to_roll
@got_to_roll 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2013 V-strom650 for 3 years and 32,000 miles. I dare say it's a better mid sized adventure bike than anything on this list. Just enough power to keep it interesting, but not overwhelming for a beginner. Arguably more reliable with lower ongoing costs than anything on this list. I rode mine enthusiastically, occasionally at triple digit speeds, lots of gravel forest roads, countless days over 350 miles. It's fuel injected, 6 gears, long range with good mileage and a large fuel tank, one of the highest cargo capacities of any bike, good wind and weather protection, good 2up, smooth engine and transmission, comfortable, easy and inexpensive to maintain. I am a very big guy (6'4" 255#), the weight and height of the V-strom were never an issue for me. I loved my KLR650, but at 80mph it got blown around and was about tapped out. The KLR650 felt like a toy compared to the V-strom650 on the freeway. If you're over 5'10" and shopping adventure bikes, not dual sport, the V-strom should be at the top of your list. No it's not for hardcore dirt riding but it's fantastic for exploring gravel forest service roads and long days on the highway or playing on backroads. *your experience may vary. I'm on a Super Tenere now for shaft drive, electronic suspension and cruise control.
@PaydayGabeBCNV
@PaydayGabeBCNV 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers 🍻 to you comments. Agree 💯. I've had both machines also and would definitely purchase another WeeStrom. The KLR,, hell no! Slug on the Road, but better offroad. Coincidentally I have an 012 S10 also but no ES or cruise 🤷‍♂️. A wonderful Mile Muncher. 😋
@l.a.raustadt518
@l.a.raustadt518 2 жыл бұрын
I have two V-Stroms 650+1000 first gens. Love em to hell and back! 5"8 165 lbs.
@PaydayGabeBCNV
@PaydayGabeBCNV 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.raustadt518 ,, so 🤔, which one is your preference??
@got_to_roll
@got_to_roll 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.raustadt518 Perfect! Gravel slinging mountain climber and a 2up highway mile muncher. They are truly fantastic bikes.
@kidronreddy1671
@kidronreddy1671 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Todd ,thanks for the article.Tell me whats a good long distance bike for a beginner 170cm height 70 kg weight .Thanks Bro.
@thumpersquid
@thumpersquid 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased the CRF300 Rally and think it should have its own class Adventure/Dual Sport. The fairing and windshield function perfectly for road trips yet its dual sport DNA can rip any trail if you're so inclined. Not really a highway bike but it's way more comfortable than any dual sport on the road that I have experience with. I did upgrade the suspension and customize the bike for my wants and needs. I love your channel!
@oknevals
@oknevals 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonlough3074 Tall winshields make bike very unstable at higher speeds. I had one on my cb500x. After miserable wind experience on 2000 miles trip, I took it off and never thought of it again.
@thumpersquid
@thumpersquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonlough3074 I'm 5'9" with the stock shield so you may want to upgrade or get an extension that clips to the factory shield. Never had a need for a tall shield so I don't know how it affects stability or buffeting.
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I have the new KLR, I put on a adjustable wind deflector that clamps on to the top of the stock windscreen, works great !
@bogdan1207
@bogdan1207 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you say but I think the CRF Rally is a dual sport, not an ADV. There used to be a clear difference between ADV and dual sports, but I see nowadays dual sports and ADVs are thought to be the same. Any dual sport is going to be better than an ADV off-road (especially the CRF, that one is amazing, albeit a bit tall), but ADV is not only about off-road, ADVs have been the modern UJM for so many years, why should we judge them solely for their off-road capabilities now?
@robcripe103
@robcripe103 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 300 Rally.I added the $25 windshield extension that clamps on. Works wonderful for directing the wind buffering over your head. I was truly shocked at how well it worked!
@johneaches5313
@johneaches5313 2 жыл бұрын
I really think the crf 300 rally should be on that list, it truly is a great bike.
@beomsukim3929
@beomsukim3929 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem is the height. Too tall for beginners. Otherwise it is a great dual sport bike.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy with my G310GS but that CRF300 Rally has caught my eye. The 3.8 gallon tank isn't bad but Honda should give it a 5+ gallon tank and make it in black or gray instead of Honda racing red.
@rob_u_blynde
@rob_u_blynde 2 жыл бұрын
Crf250l was my first
@noeleaton3812
@noeleaton3812 2 жыл бұрын
@@Liberty4Ever l
@ws8080
@ws8080 2 жыл бұрын
It's a dualsport, not strictly adventure bike.
@c0ck_l2oach75
@c0ck_l2oach75 2 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence you just made this video. I am an experienced rider on/off road. I just bought myself last week a versys x 300 for an unconventional adv build. I bought a 2017 with 1900 miles. Parts on the way, seat concepts tall seat, full skid plate, crash bars, shinko 804/805, led pods, unbreakable levers etc. Total build price finished will be under $5k. With fuel mpg/range there's alot of room for adventure to be had at this price.
@mototurkey5289
@mototurkey5289 2 жыл бұрын
The Suzuki Vstrom always flies under the radar. I would consider it as capable as any of these bikes when on paved roads and it is arguably just as capable off road as several of these. Inexpensive, reliable, as easy to work on. A great community of StromTroopers to assist in maintaining the bike is a KLR-like experience as well. Sure it’s pretty heavy at 470lbs, but it’s powerful at 70hp (69nm torque). With a seat height of 32.7” it is a very approachable bike. Its budget friendly, powerful, and more highway ready than several of these you mentioned. I think it’s a good entry level adventure touring bike with lots of upside. No Suzuki love even on Valentine’s Day… staying under the radar again I guess VStromers!!!
@qohenleth4472
@qohenleth4472 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the Honda Transalp is sold in the US, but after thinking about buying a V-Strom for months, I went for a used '09 Transalp 700 (4000€). According to my research they're quite similar in capability, though the Transalp 700 has less power (60bhp), but I think it's a midge lighter, and also cheaper. Both solid options that I indeed don't see mentionned very often.
@markrutherford7798
@markrutherford7798 2 жыл бұрын
@@qohenleth4472 The Transalp is no longer sold here in the USA. It was only sold for a couple of years in the late 1980s. I bought one new around 1990 or so. It was a 1989 that had been sitting on the floor of the dealership with no takers. I bought it and it’s a great bike. It’s featured in another KZbin channel by Pedro Mota. With a few small upgrades, it a very capable ADV bike.
@micaKTM1290
@micaKTM1290 2 жыл бұрын
VStrom is a good bike but it is a borderline ADV bike due to its suspension travel.
@PaydayGabeBCNV
@PaydayGabeBCNV 2 жыл бұрын
@@micaKTM1290 ,, very true. Definitely more road biased unfortunately.
@PaydayGabeBCNV
@PaydayGabeBCNV 2 жыл бұрын
👋 hey,, Vstrom 650 PO. I Throughly enjoyed the bike,, although it is a more Road biased machine. Skid plate is required for anything off pavement. Its reliable as an Anvil with enough power for serious touring. I had the Adventure model with crash(BUZZZY)bars and the hard panniers. Rode it all over the western states and never had one mechanical issue. And honestly, I would gladly purchase another. Ride safe🙏 everyone.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to dis the G310GS but you saved the best for last. 🙂 I wish BMW made an $8000 version that was 400-450cc for better highway cruising, a 5-6 gallon fuel tank, keep the weight light, and spoke wheels with tubeless tires, aluminum bash plate, crash bars and upgraded suspension. I'd generally like the entire market to stop treating smaller displacement ADV bikes as intro bikes or bikes for the Asian market. I thought I'd like it to be built in Germany but I honestly can't find any complaint about the quality of this bike that was built in India to a budget. I paid $4920 out the door for a new 2019 G310GS just before the 2021 model release, which was a heck of a deal on a bike with a 3 year factory warranty. The 313 cc engine putting out 34 HP in a bike weighing 374 pounds is actually ideal for me even though I'm a big guy. It'll go on the highways but it's wound out. It doesn't seem to mind but it's a bit buzzy and it gets blown around because it doesn't weigh much. I don't mind because in my 60s, I ride secondary roads, gravel roads, dirt roads, and easy off road. The G310GS is perfect for that. The only time I ride highways is when I need to get home and I'm running late after "a little more adventure than I had planned." :-)
@victoriastone5957
@victoriastone5957 2 жыл бұрын
@Liberty4Ever - YES YES YES YES ..... I wish BMW made an $8000 version that was 400-450cc (even 500cc) for better highway cruising, a 5-6 gallon fuel tank, keep the weight light, and spoke wheels with tubeless tires, aluminum bash plate, crash bars and upgraded suspension. Com'on BMW - Help us out that have to hit hwy speeds without driving a mosquito.
@choerenz
@choerenz 2 жыл бұрын
So wanted to add my own personal perspective. I started out my motorcycling with a Honda CB500X. Its a fantastic bike. For a new rider actually still feels a bit heavy but manageable. from there i upgraded to a BMWF700GS. Felt about the same as the honda weight wise (low tank = low center of gravity) but also a heavy bike. Then I purchased a Tiger 900 RP, which I still have. I've taken both the Tiger and the BMW F700 offroad and they are both ok but heavy. I'm not an overly experienced offroad rider and I'd say that your list is heading in the right direction. I recently added a BMW G310GS with full Rally Raid treatment. This bike was transformed by the RR kit, but even without it, looking back at my choices now I should have started with something lighter like the 310GS. I now feel like through a lot of trial and error, I have the right solution - the Tiger is great for longer trips, mostly road, and easier off road sections. As soon as it gets technical it can get downright intimidating. The BMW G310GS Rally Raid inspires so much more confidence, its great offroad, and it does well enough on the hwy to get me to where I want to go.
@jwaller1327
@jwaller1327 2 жыл бұрын
Can't say enough good about the Versys X-300. I got one for my daughter and can ride it any time I like (if she's not riding it!). Riding it convinced me I didn't need a KLR any more, because it will do anything a KLR will do and do it easier. Yeah, not as much suspension travel, but the suspension it does have isn't as mushy. It's not as smooth on the dirt and gravel roads, but it has more feel and less heft, making it more confidence inspiring. I'd recommend it over the KLR. The only thing I think the KLR has going for it over the X-300 is maybe slightly easier servicing (valve adjustment being the main thing, if you're doing it yourself) and the larger road presence when riding in urban or suburban traffic.
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
Big heavy bikes like klr arent beginners friendly
@HardBoiledGregADV
@HardBoiledGregADV 2 жыл бұрын
@@the.communist agreed. I think a lot of commenters on this video are missing that in the title. If you are a beginner or someone who isn’t 6’4” and 200+ lbs then bikes like the KLR650 and VStrom are too much to handle. They certainly have their place, but not in the category Ian is trying to outline in his video.
@mimi1girl2dempsey3
@mimi1girl2dempsey3 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Versys x and love it. Proper tires make it incredible on dirt and fire roads. Nimble on the twisties. The klr is just too big and clumsy for most adventure riding.
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 2 жыл бұрын
Man, nice I had a 2020 Versys X300 fun bike, but a out grew it quickly, traded it in for a new 2022 KLR650, it's a hoot to ride !
@KLRmurdercycle
@KLRmurdercycle 2 жыл бұрын
I have two gen2 klr. I really like the looks of the 3rd gen, the versys 300, and the cb500x. If I had room for a whack of bikes, I'd have one of each. KLe500, a Dominator, a TransAlp. I really like the new Tiger Sport 660.✌😄
@mollygrubber
@mollygrubber 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I listened to your caveat about picking strictly "ADV" bikes, HOWEVER I will also cast my vote for the CRF300L Rally. Very capable offroad, easily does 70mph in comfort all day on the highway, big fuel tank, decent wind protection, and it's CHEAP to operate insure & maintain (and purchase, usually). Sure it has some cons, don't they all - but for a beginner (a taller one, granted) it's a really valid choice - much moreso than the big GS IMO (and I put 95,000km on an F800GS and 65,000km on an F650GS). I'd happily ride the 300 anywhere on the planet, I'll never go back to the big ADV's.
@GeezerWheels
@GeezerWheels 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, Ian!!! I have owned a Versys X300 for several years and still love this little machine. I have added T-Rex crash bars and skid plate (very tough - happy with them). Also lowered the foot pegs one inch and added 2 inch Rox pivoting bar risers (I stand a lot and at 6'3" these mods are a game changer). Also added Givi luggage racks and wider foot pegs. I've ridded a number of Jeep trails where I live in SW Colorado and also part of the TransAmeria trail, even Ophir Pass, on the X300. Yes, the suspension is limited, but slower speeds and standing solve most of that (and I weigh 210 lbs). Highway at 75 mph is not a problem, just not much passing power left at that speed. I added Mitas E07 tires and it does surprisingly well on some steep, dirt hills. I own and ride a Husaberg FE390 for serious dirt, and a 2017 Vstrom 650XT for more travel oriented work. Thought I might sell the X300 after buying the Vstrom, but it's such a balanced bike that handles so well I chose to keep it. ALSO, I routinely get over 70 mpg around the county roads and I easily get over 300 mile range. KZbinr Ryan Fortnine in Canada loves this bike -- one of the best in its size, power, price range. Thanks for including it, hope you get to ride one soon. Husageezer (I'm 73!).
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 2 жыл бұрын
Man, nice I had a 2020 Versys X300 great bike, but I traded it in for the new 2022 KLR650, it fits me better, and it's a hoot to ride !
@GeezerWheels
@GeezerWheels 2 жыл бұрын
@@markcollins5026 WEIRD - one of my best friends in Colorado is "Mark Collins" - at first I thought you were him! (He rides TW200 in serious back country here is SW Colorado.) I have other friends who ride KLR 650s and love them. I rode one once for about 5 minutes in town - nice ride.
@reedkelly6145
@reedkelly6145 Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: Fuel consumption... with gas going up up up, I think it is really useful to include MPG for these bikes. Yes MPG will change based on rider weight, throttle input, type of riding city or highway.... but generally, all things being equal... what bikes are good MPG, what are so so, and what is going to cost more over the long term. Also... 9 months later... are you going to ride the Versys 300? This is the bike I am MOST interested in. How is it for a daily commuter, getting on and off, stability / maneuverability when lane splitting, and level of capability off road??? I WANT to do 80/20 off road, but in reality I do 80/20 on road, with rock roads, dirt roads, very little trail riding. Lastly how is it for keeping a constant 85/90 mpg on the highway? ALL of his would be GREAT to know. For all the bikes. Plus the differences between duel sport and adventure bikes... these seem vey similar or the same but are they really? SORRY: last thought... cost of service / repair.. is maintaining a KTM or BMW going to cost the same as a Honda or a Kawasaki... how often is service and can it be done DYI or is it dealer only??? Very Important!! Do all these run on regular gas or do some require premium gasoline?
@GeezerWheels
@GeezerWheels Жыл бұрын
@@reedkelly6145 Great questions, Reed. My mileage averages 70 - 73 mpg. I am 74 years old and ride pretty conservatively. My average trip is to Durango, CO from 13 miles out of town - 5 miles on gravel county roads then 8 on pavement to get to town. I run Mitas E07 tires and love them. This bike will NOT get 85-90 miles per gallon. But riding at 45 miles per hour, it will get over 70 if ridden conservatively. HANDLING: This bike handles like a DREAM! Very maneuverable at any speed. Tight curves or long sweepers are all just easy. In town traffic handling is also very easy - handles like a sport bike, feels light and nimble. I have the anti-lock brakes - highly recommended, works like a dream. Stops VERY well and I've never locked up a tire, front or back, even under heavy braking. MAINTENANCE and RELIABILITY: I've had mine for over 3 years - zero problems, just change the oil. This is a very reliable bike in every respect. The 300cc engine is sourced from the Ninja 300 race bike and is basically bulletproof. High RPM is by design and won't hurt this engine - and I will run on regular gas, but I always use non-ethanol 90 octane gas in my bikes. They sit for months through the Colorado winters and ethanol gas gums up over time. I think the book calls for 89 octane (mid-grade where I live). Lower elevations call for higher octane in general. So if you live near sea level, stick with 89 octane, which is probably regular gas. SERVICE INTERVAL: I change the oil every 3,300 miles (that's easy to track, 3300, 6600 and 10,000 on the clock). OFF-ROAD PERFORMANCE. I ride quite a few Jeep Trails in SW Colorado, works great. Really Rocky Mountain passes are doable, just go slow and remember the limiting factor is fork and shock travel (I weigh 215lbs). Regular forest service roads are no problem at all. HIGHWAY TRAVEL: This bike does fine at highway speeds in normal conditions. The ONLY time I've had limited power was at 7000 feet above sea level, going up a steep, long highway section, with a headwind. Couldn't go over 60 mph, but that's a limitation of all 300 cc bikes. The X300 has more power than most 300s. On normal roads at normal elevations, the bike does great. I highly recommend the Kawasaki X300 for a general bike and one of the BEST as a normal commuter bike. Light, nimble, great gas mileage - one of the best in class. Highway speeds get less mpg. Reliable, bulletproof and just a joy to ride. There may not be a better, easier to ride commuter bike. And I love the ergonomics, sitting, standing, etc. - but it DOES need a padded seat for anything over an hour (I did one 4 day, out of state trip and really appreciated the Mad Dog ATV seat cover with one inch of foam under it). PLEASE check the KZbin Channel "FORTNINE" for his posts on the X300. Excellent reviews. Good luck! - Geezerwheels.
@reedkelly6145
@reedkelly6145 Жыл бұрын
@@GeezerWheels BEST REPLY EVER!!
@Thirsty_Fox
@Thirsty_Fox 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the CB500X and Versys 300 are the top picks (rider size and cost being the deciding factors). Incredible reliability and long (500km) fuel range are top priorities for me in the back country which these two meet. The 500X did get suspension and brake upgrades this year which should make it even better. Every bike has compromises and you need to determine which characteristics you want to prioritize. I'm hoping we'll see more small to midsize adventure bikes as even at nearly 6ft tall, I find most of them feel massive.
@podunkman2709
@podunkman2709 Жыл бұрын
I would get mad listening single cylinder noise. CB500X is a great option.
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 Жыл бұрын
I own a Versys 300 and I love it. I got to ride the CB500x and would love to own that one too. 👍
@PapaDougsAdventures01
@PapaDougsAdventures01 2 жыл бұрын
I think the bike Itchy Boots is riding(CRF300Rally) in her current videos going from South America to Alaska should be included.
@insatiable_mind
@insatiable_mind 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% but it’s a dual sport with an adventure trim. He defined ADV bikes in the beginning of the video.
@renano95
@renano95 2 жыл бұрын
He said in the beginning he's not doing dual sports
@desertdenizen6428
@desertdenizen6428 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, Itchy Boots started her adventure on a Royal Enfield Himalayan from India to Indonesia to Oman and around Europe to the Netherlands. Her second bike, also a Himalayan she rode from Argentina to Ushuaia north to Ecuador when she was stopped by COVID. Her current bike, the CRF300 has shown to be a great bike from Ecuador to Mexico on her current trip.
@ArtTheTractor
@ArtTheTractor 2 жыл бұрын
Except that a good dual sport makes a better adventure bike than many so called adventure bikes that are as heavy as touring bikes or cruisers…
@PapaDougsAdventures01
@PapaDougsAdventures01 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtTheTractor I agree. I recently went fireroad riding and dropped my KTM 890 Adventure R 3 times. It’s extremely difficult, at my age(62), to pick up. The last drop the seat was facing down hill and I couldn’t pick it up. Fortunately I had a friend with me. I think I’m going to try and get a bike in the 250-350lbs range maybe a KTM 500 Exc-f. I’m just concerned about the reliability. I primarily bought the 890 for BDR’s so can the 500 do that job, not sure?
@govinda102000
@govinda102000 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 2020 X300. Simple front sprocket change, bike hums at 70mph and still gets over 55 MPG. .
@joecamel6835
@joecamel6835 2 жыл бұрын
One million RPMs !
@KF1
@KF1 Жыл бұрын
by how much did the front sprocket change the rpms at speed?
@govinda102000
@govinda102000 Жыл бұрын
@@KF1Roughly 600 or 700. At 70mph, its at just under 8000 . I only drove it a few miles new before changing the sprocket. I wanted the highway to break it in faster without strain.
@KF1
@KF1 Жыл бұрын
@@govinda102000 thanks! I'm thinking of this as my first bike. Glad to hear you enjoy it
@stevelarson4487
@stevelarson4487 2 жыл бұрын
Good overview of the small ADV bikes. I bought a new CB500X in 2020, and been very pleased with it. Such a fun bike on the pavement, and still has decent capability off-road, when you add a skid plate & crash bars.
@serious_in_seattle6917
@serious_in_seattle6917 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I think Honda’s NC750X deserves a mention even though it’s heavily biased towards roads. They are good on gravel roads and trails, however. Low center of gravity makes them feel light. And, very convenient and comfortable.
@iz723
@iz723 2 жыл бұрын
Def not
@davidc1961utube
@davidc1961utube 2 жыл бұрын
First, great video. I am definitely in the camp of folks that rate small vs mid-size vs full size by weight, not displacement, but I respect that others also have legitimate and potentially more valid opinions. After all, you ride and review bikes for a living, and have ridden a lot more bikes than me! Hell, you could group them all by price, and recommend that beginners buy something cheap, because they are guaranteed to want a different bike after a year or two on their first ADV bike. Either they will love ADV riding and want to upgrade, or at least buy a bike more suited to what they like, or they will dislike ADV riding and need to sell it at a minimum loss. I think any list of bikes that includes a CB500X and 750GS should include a V-Strom 650 XT. With a 32.9” seat height, 19/17 wheels, about 6” suspension travel, 476 pounds, 20l or 5.3galj of fuel for a base price of $9,399. Just my opinion as a totally biased former owner of a 10 year old 2006 Wee Strom. That was my first “ADV”-ish bike, after adding a bash plate and hand guards. Recalling my memories of being a beginner, and layering my experience over that, I have a strong bias towards cheaper, lower and lighter bikes as a rider’s first. Tall people can be less worried about seat height, and power lifters can be less worried about weight, but the number one consideration should be to buy a bike that doesn’t scare you. If you are unable to lift it, or if it represents half your net worth, you are not going to have fun riding off pavement. That would be a shame, because riding off pavement can be a hoot! I am not a complete beginner, but I am currently touring Ecuador on a Himalayan, which has reliably taken me everywhere it was designed to. I only ever had an issue when I tried to flog it down roads that my WR250R would have struggled on, or tried to climb the 4x4 road up the side of a volcano. It is a very basic, heavy and underpowered motorcycle, but I could afford it, the seat height is low, and every small town in South America has a mechanic that is competent to work on it. Except for price, the 310GS, 390ADV, Versys300 and CB500X could all have performed similarly well, and probable each better in some way. The thing about the RE is that I am fearless of breaking stuff. I purchased a bag of levers and pedals for cheap, and just go for it! I am really looking forward to your video on the best used bikes to start ADV riding on. This is where I think almost all people should start. Low financial risk, extensive aftermarket, most used bikes will already have the Barkbusters and bash plates on them, etc. The new bikes are best bought second or third, after experimentation. Just my opinion, YMMV. Cheers!
@rickdelmonte1682
@rickdelmonte1682 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a new rider, but I am a new dirt rider. I bought a Honda CRF 300L Rally to learn dirt riding, but I think it would be a great bike for any new rider. It has the lightest clutch pull I have ever felt and a great transmission. This is good because with a very low 1-3 gears you will be shifting A LOT! This is one of the basic skills you need to learn as a new rider, and it doesn't get easier than this. It is not intimidating on either the road or dirt, a greta way to learn both. Finally it is a Honda and very cheap to run, plus you will not outgrow it.
@rickdelmonte1682
@rickdelmonte1682 2 жыл бұрын
BTW, great video and channel, thank you.
@peteb6072
@peteb6072 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t start riding motorcycles until I was 52 years old.. bought a 2016 KLR 650.. dropped it the brand new bike the first day I got it.. I learned so much on that bike.. 20k miles on it now .. absolutely no problems except the electric fan I wrecked in one of my drops before I put on the motor guard. I replaced the doohickey also just because it was recommended.. I learned a lot on this bike and built confidence.. just put a down payment on a 1250Harley Pan America Special .. but I’m keeping my KLR forever
@pauljoyquilter359
@pauljoyquilter359 Жыл бұрын
We have two of the BMW G310GS bikes fitted with the full Rally Raid kits. They are pretty good as long as you do not need to cruise at above 100 kmh. We get left behind by bigger bikes, but as we use them mainly for camping trips, we are happy to ride slower and enjoy the countryside. The lack of power means that you can’t lift the front wheel quickly to get over obstacles or if you suddenly hit sand or deep gravel, so not ideal for really difficult tracks, but OK for most gravel roads and some less travelled routes. We carry a lot of gear on them!
@thomasfinch5605
@thomasfinch5605 2 жыл бұрын
1,000,000 RPM lol that Versys engine would explode and open a black hole at the same time 🤣. I know that was mess up. Probably meant 10k RPM but that had me laughing so hard! Thank you, made my morning.
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm 67 years old been riding dirt bikes and ATVS for over 35 years, I had a 2020 Versys X300 fun bike but I out grew it quickly, I traded it in for a new 2022 KLR 650, fits me a lot better, plus it's a hoot to ride !
@demetriuscooksey7147
@demetriuscooksey7147 2 жыл бұрын
Of the ones you listed, that little honda seems like a winner. 150 CCs less than a KLR 650 but 10 more hp. Light, good wind protection, comfortable seat height. Really got me considering it.
@winduncan9818
@winduncan9818 2 жыл бұрын
I agreed with all of your pics. But I just think a new rider should never buy new. New riders don't know what's important to them, don't know what kind of riding they will like. IMO a new rider wanting to get into adv riding would be fine buying any bike on your list + CRF250/300 USED. Ride it for a season, see what kind of riding you like best and what you value the most then upgrade to a bike that really fits your riding style while not taking a big depreciation hit. My first street bike was a Ninja 250 thinking I would want sporty bikes. After a season I didn't like the body position, wanted to travel and camp in rural areas and a bit more power. I sold it for exactly what I paid for it and bought a VStrom which I have ridden all over the Western US, Canada and Mexico.
@TictacAddict1
@TictacAddict1 14 күн бұрын
I purchased a new 2022 Himalayan. I'd say your description of the speed WRT a minivan was unfair. It will beat most 4 wheel vehicles in city traffic, but on the highway, you're not going to like or see much above 70mph. With that in mind, I travel mostly roads 65 and below. The Himalayan eats gravel roads for breakfast, even with the stock tires. Additionally, the warranty is 3 years and unlimited mileage. Beats, everybody! Great video, subscribed.
@Avesta.
@Avesta. 2 жыл бұрын
I have a G310GS and an F750GS, love them both to DEATH. That little G310GS is amazing for taking to classes and learning things that I don't want to beat up a more expensive bike on. Not the greatest for highway use but it's my favorite camping motorcycle...which may change when I get a Himalayan. For long trips I have my 750 and it's incredible. This was an awesome video!
@guzzidelgado
@guzzidelgado 2 жыл бұрын
Hello ! Why would that change after getting a Himalayan ? 🧐
@ricardofabia
@ricardofabia 2 жыл бұрын
I started my riding career on a Versys X 300. Lovely motorcycle. It can do Highways OK up to 80mph but strained after that. I did some mild dirt roads in CO and it was wonderful. It revs high for power but if you ride sports motorcycles you're familiar with it. A good old-fashioned screamer. If you want a real negative to it, it's the seat. As Ryan F9 pointed out in his review "the hardest seat in the world". Unfortunately I am ready to graduate to something a little more powerful, but I have no regrets on the baby Versys as a starter motorcycle. If only Kawasaki came out with a 400cc version...
@reedkelly6145
@reedkelly6145 Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: Fuel consumption... with gas going up up up, I think it is really useful to include MPG for these bikes. Yes MPG will change based on rider weight, throttle input, type of riding city or highway.... but generally, all things being equal... what bikes are good MPG, what are so so, and what is going to cost more over the long term. Also... 9 months later... are you going to ride the Versys 300? This is the bike I am MOST interested in. How is it for a daily commuter, getting on and off, stability / maneuverability when lane splitting, and level of capability off road??? I WANT to do 80/20 off road, but in reality I do 80/20 on road, with rock roads, dirt roads, very little trail riding. Lastly how is it for keeping a constant 85/90 mpg on the highway? ALL of his would be GREAT to know. For all the bikes. Plus the differences between duel sport and adventure bikes... these seem vey similar or the same but are they really? SORRY: last thought... cost of service / repair.. is maintaining a KTM or BMW going to cost the same as a Honda or a Kawasaki... how often is service and can it be done DYI or is it dealer only??? Very Important!! Do all these run on regular gas or do some require premium gasoline?
@Magila6034
@Magila6034 2 жыл бұрын
I've been riding a big gs for 22 years. Picked up a crf300l rally and I'm now sold on small adventure bikes. Way more fun. This bike deserves to be in your list. Thanks
@davidmohr4004
@davidmohr4004 2 жыл бұрын
80 with the wind at your back downhill after being dropped from an airplane. Dry delivery points a solid 10/10. Well played bud!,,
@anidaralopez5676
@anidaralopez5676 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how the KTM 390 looks....very appealing, and smaller than a 500+. I don't want to do wheelies, or spend a ton of time on a dirt track, but I do want to feel comfortable taking some backroads or dirt, gravel, or a bit gnarly without fear of bottoming out with every bump.
@Magila6034
@Magila6034 2 жыл бұрын
Been riding a big gs for the last 20 years. Picked up a crf300l rally. Way more fun in the dirt and good on the freeway. Deserves to be in this group. Thanks for all your great videos.
@gabrielkopp2036
@gabrielkopp2036 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video..I grew up ridding dirt bikes and dual sports..looked into the klr650 and decided to get pre owned and found a great buy 2018 with 3000 highway miles for 4000$ and do not regret my decision
@tomg8673
@tomg8673 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the Versys 300 review!!! I’m sure you are going to love this bike when you get your hands on it. Thanks for putting out a Great Informative Channel
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is lack of any torque
@mimi1girl2dempsey3
@mimi1girl2dempsey3 2 жыл бұрын
@@the.communist Not really a problem. Just rev the engine. Keep stock gearing if doing lots of dirt roads
@triarii_00
@triarii_00 2 жыл бұрын
we really need a verseys x 400.
@HardBoiledGregADV
@HardBoiledGregADV 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going for a 2022 KTM 390 Adventure after debating over and over most of bikes listed in this review. The 2022 model has newly designed, stronger cast wheels and a button to switch between off-road and on-road mode. For what you get for the money, I just don't find much out there that beats it.
@moonflea1923
@moonflea1923 Жыл бұрын
Did you get the ktm 390? Has it been reliable? I'm really leaning more towards that bike.
@HardBoiledGregADV
@HardBoiledGregADV Жыл бұрын
@@moonflea1923 I waited and waited until late June 2022 for the 2022 models to come in and then gave up because I didn’t want to waste the entire summer. I ended up buying a KTM 890 Adventure instead. It is nice, and I like it. I still wish I had just kept my original plan for the 390. My son has the 390, and it feels so much lighter off-road.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын
JOIN ME AT THE UPCOMING REVZILLA GET ON ADV RALLY IN THE MOJAVE DESERT OF CALIFORNIA APRIL 21-24: www.revzilla.com/adv-fest
@joepasco1420
@joepasco1420 Жыл бұрын
I got the x300. For dirt roads the suspension and clearance is plenty. If I'm bottoming out I'm going faster than I should be. Fuel milage and tank size is excellent. Easy to strap on alot of gear also. Mine is 2019 non abs. It was 5k out the door. So far no regrets. I got it up to 102 mph on flat ground with those horrible stock tires. I run it without the windshield and it's far better with 50 50 tires.
@reedkelly6145
@reedkelly6145 Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: Fuel consumption... with gas going up up up, I think it is really useful to include MPG for these bikes. Yes MPG will change based on rider weight, throttle input, type of riding city or highway.... but generally, all things being equal... what bikes are good MPG, what are so so, and what is going to cost more over the long term. Also... 9 months later... are you going to ride the Versys 300? This is the bike I am MOST interested in. How is it for a daily commuter, getting on and off, stability / maneuverability when lane splitting, and level of capability off road??? I WANT to do 80/20 off road, but in reality I do 80/20 on road, with rock roads, dirt roads, very little trail riding. Lastly how is it for keeping a constant 85/90 mpg on the highway? ALL of his would be GREAT to know. For all the bikes. Plus the differences between duel sport and adventure bikes... these seem vey similar or the same but are they really? SORRY: last thought... cost of service / repair.. is maintaining a KTM or BMW going to cost the same as a Honda or a Kawasaki... how often is service and can it be done DYI or is it dealer only??? Very Important!! Do all these run on regular gas or do some require premium gasoline?
@brucewohlfeld2157
@brucewohlfeld2157 9 ай бұрын
I have had four BMW’s and loved them. I am now 76 years old and have a new Royal Enfield Himalayan. I don’t think I smiled this much on the BMW’s!
@liandrobr
@liandrobr Жыл бұрын
For the cost benefit and versatility, it is definitely Versys X300 I've had trail bikes and I was limited in trips, not today, I take any terrain, road, light, strong motorcycle, it works for me.
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad Жыл бұрын
I just bought the Versys-X 300 ABS. Great bike. I like the riding position. Comfy for me.
@spinwater66
@spinwater66 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from SW Colorado!........I down sized from a bike with 130hp to 40hp. Speaking for myself only, at some point I realized it was more about the 'adventure' and not the bike per say. I grew disenchanted with the unused horsepower and was happy to do away with the extra weight. Less weight meant more freedom for me to adventure deeper. I also believe in simplicity. In this modern world less is more.
@Vahu19
@Vahu19 2 жыл бұрын
great job Ian and perfect timing...i'm on the ropes, been on the street riding for about 4 seasons and cant pull the trigger on a T7 because of the weight issue and my complete lack of offroad skills. will most likely go for TEAM RED crf rally.
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
I have a cb500x n taking offroad is daunting. Too bulky n heavy
@roadkillbbq686
@roadkillbbq686 2 жыл бұрын
Coffee and Big Rock Moro. Just what I needed to start the morning. 👌
@MRGS48
@MRGS48 2 жыл бұрын
Same her brother haha
@rucksterman
@rucksterman 2 жыл бұрын
Good selection of bikes here. I'd put the Honda CRF300L Rally and Benelli TRK502X on this list to round it out. Thanks.
@Voolthe
@Voolthe 2 жыл бұрын
benelli is so heavy :o
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
@@Voolthe all xhinese bikes are
@Voolthe
@Voolthe 2 жыл бұрын
@@the.communist benelli 235kg, versys X300 175kg...
@jayneandpaulrichgels1112
@jayneandpaulrichgels1112 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 CB500X. Filled up last night. 277 miles. Took 3.34 gallons. Works out to 82 miles per gallon.
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian. It's been 40+ years since I played with an XL500 Honda. This clears up a lot of confusion for me in the current market.
@KeepItSimpleSailor
@KeepItSimpleSailor 11 ай бұрын
As a recent purchaser - I can vouch that I’m very happy with the Honda CB500x
@erosas887
@erosas887 2 жыл бұрын
Himalayan in the list but not the crf300l rally is a bit disappointing. The crf300l rally deserves at least a proper review in the channel. I own a v Strom 650 xt by the way and I don't think it is a good begginer bike as I don't think the BMW 750 isn't too. Great channel. Tell us more about the Norden 901.
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
Disapointed?🤣😂🤣 whos Ian your mother?
@The_Arby
@The_Arby 2 жыл бұрын
Good information Ian :-) Surprised you didn't mention the Honda 300L or Rally :-)
@waynerobertson511
@waynerobertson511 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Honda 300 Rally would make an appearance. It seems to be good enough for riding round Africa or South-North America, for example.
@SupRec
@SupRec 2 жыл бұрын
I ride bikes since 90's and after a bunch of different types of them, a few months ago I bought the G310GS 40th years and allow me to say that this little bike rocks. It's not the most powefull, not the best to off-road but... You can do everything you want with it just because it is super confortable, economic and fun to ride. Like you've said, I was tyred of heavy & powerfull bikes which I was always concerned to drop it in a dirty road ( expensive spare parts, ensurance, etc). Now I have 3 years of BMW's ensurance ( the dealer here is awesome ), BMW assistance in whole South America, my private ensurance costs me almost nothing compared to my last F800GS and XTZ Super Teneré 750. In my opinion there's no bad motorcycle, but motorcycles that don't match to your spectation. Cheers from Brazil, buddy.
@TWTourist
@TWTourist 2 жыл бұрын
Two bikes I would add to your list is the V-Storm 650 and TRK502X. Other then that nice job 👍
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
No. Too heavy n bulky. Were talking of beginners here.
@allendawson5752
@allendawson5752 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I'm looking to get an adventure bike. I'm 5'11". 190lbs. It will be my very first bike. I rode dirt bikes, and mini bikes, and quads when I was a teenager. That was over 30 years ago. Lol I just want a bike I can commute to work and take a trip here and there, but also hit that random trail. This video gave me something to think about.
@Solderpro_1
@Solderpro_1 Жыл бұрын
My beginner ADV was a suzuki DR650 then I upgraded to a 2022 ktm 890 adventure. Love the bike even with all its beginning issues...
@misthunt3r
@misthunt3r Ай бұрын
I concur. with your theory about Kawasaki. I got my Versys X-300 2 years ago and it proved to be awesome bike. It has it's flaws obviously and most of them can be modded out, but took me through 25k of all types of roads and allow me to learn and learn. It's great for anyoe that does not need to burn the rubber but at the same time it offers enough power when and where you need it for small ADV. If not for driving with passenger I would not consider changing it. And I do have a feeling that I will keep it in the garage as 2nd bike for now.
@sdefiel3719
@sdefiel3719 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Himalayan. It gets me out of any trouble my foolish imagination can think up. However, I love my KTM 390 Adv more. It's lighter, faster, fancier and dog gone it, people like it. ;) Another excellent bit of knowledge Ian. Thanks, S
@douwe4549
@douwe4549 Жыл бұрын
I have had the klr 650, rode it Chile an Argentina, its called the cheap adventure motorcycle. Its heavy, big, certainly not for beginners. I now have a Suzuki Freewind, apart from the silly name it is great, can be had for a 1000 dollars. Its light, easy off road and very good on highways and twisties . My best buy, even though I owned 15 motorcycles.
@jimkonugres8454
@jimkonugres8454 2 жыл бұрын
I have a well outfitted 310GS with 7K+ miles of true adventre riding. Suspension is really limited and I am considering upgrading with RallyRaid suspension. A bit of $ but I think it will be worth it.I live near you Ian in San Diego county and I have probably run many of the same trails. Struggled a bit in Colorado all loaded down in the high passes (Cinnamon). Overall I have had a blast on this bike and the most important thing is the confidence I have that if I get in a situation where the terrain is rough, I can flat foot, pick it up if I drop it, etc. I ride solo so this is a huge determining factor. I have owned a well-equipped Gen2 KLR and I really didnt like that HEAVY bike. I found it hard to manage in the dirt, and the well known death wobble was a deal-breaker for me. I own a WR250R and I agreed with your comment that dual-sport rider experience transitioning to adventure riding is helpful. Thanks for the continued superb content.
@timpenny5749
@timpenny5749 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still loving my bmw 2019 bmw g310 gs!!! No issues!!
@maciejm.5001
@maciejm.5001 2 жыл бұрын
I have ridden all of them and choose the KTM 390 ADV, in my opinion the best bike for fun, freaky and very good torque.
@tylerwilliams1882
@tylerwilliams1882 2 жыл бұрын
I currently own a Versys X300 for commuting and finding fire roads and flat trails. It handles very well, compared to my MT-07 is feels like a bicycle! I can regularly go 300 miles on a tank 60/70MPG, It's good at cruising between 45-65MPH with decent suspension and brakes. It is a high reving twin from the Ninja 300 with a tooth less on the front sprocket so its constantly screaming. Around 9K at 75mph. And can hit triple digits on a runway. I have 2 problems with this bike, I really like tourqe and a little punch but the Ninja 300 derived engine feels gutless, and the other issue is the clutch. It has a ridiculous light pull "Pinky Finger" light and the engagement point has no feel which is compounded by the engine having 0 low end however it is an Assisted/Slipper. Overall though it's a great package if you plan to do a 80/20 Road/Off-road split.
@joecamel6835
@joecamel6835 2 жыл бұрын
One million RPMs ?
@uthe54
@uthe54 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the way you present your information. I have the Versys X300, and despite a few cons, if I had to buy a new one again today, it would still be the X300. Close runner-up would be the Honda CB500X or that KTM390ADV. I will admit I never test drove either of those two, but the more I drive my Kawasaki x300, the more I like it, and the more it impresses me. Thanks for your videos!
@reedkelly6145
@reedkelly6145 Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: Fuel consumption... with gas going up up up, I think it is really useful to include MPG for these bikes. Yes MPG will change based on rider weight, throttle input, type of riding city or highway.... but generally, all things being equal... what bikes are good MPG, what are so so, and what is going to cost more over the long term. Also... 9 months later... are you going to ride the Versys 300? This is the bike I am MOST interested in. How is it for a daily commuter, getting on and off, stability / maneuverability when lane splitting, and level of capability off road??? I WANT to do 80/20 off road, but in reality I do 80/20 on road, with rock roads, dirt roads, very little trail riding. Lastly how is it for keeping a constant 85/90 mpg on the highway? ALL of his would be GREAT to know. For all the bikes. Plus the differences between duel sport and adventure bikes... these seem vey similar or the same but are they really? SORRY: last thought... cost of service / repair.. is maintaining a KTM or BMW going to cost the same as a Honda or a Kawasaki... how often is service and can it be done DYI or is it dealer only??? Very Important!! Do all these run on regular gas or do some require premium gasoline?
@alexjson
@alexjson Жыл бұрын
Good call on the F750GS. I bought one as my first ADV bike and having not ridden a bike in 8 years (previously rode naked bikes). Probably one of the best everyday bikes you can get. Don't be put off by the power, I've ridden the F900XR with over 100hp and it doesn't feel any slower. The suspension is plush and great for riding around on really bad roads. Been touring on it with my wife a few times, it's great for pillions. Main downsides are its weight, it feels very heavy when it's not moving. I'm over 6'2 so I find it very low (but can always raise bars and seat). Touratech do a good widescreen for it too as the stock one is practically non existant. I wouldn't take it out on anything worse than a gravel trail as it'll be too heavy. +1 on the Himalayan. Got one for my dad for his 70th birthday after (after a 50 year break from biking). First time I went trail riding was on one of these and it's remarkably capable.
@garydinn8793
@garydinn8793 2 жыл бұрын
Great new video opening with excellent choice of music. Love it! Small ADV bikes are the only ones I would take on any type of serious dirt riding. I agree with your comments about starting on smaller off road bikes. So easy to handle and pick up if dropped.
@Supernova12034
@Supernova12034 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta mention the cb500x got a big upgrade now, with decent upside forks, and dual disc brakes as well
@striker1011
@striker1011 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your video. I am from India. I am 6 foot 4 inch. I bought ktm 390 adventure. It costed 4860 US dollars here in India which is tremendous value for money for a bike with quick shifter & auto blipper , cornering abs & MTC feature packed. The only bummer was Adjustable suspension rear & front is missing in Indian models with just WP APEX springs & they get led indicators. It's very light weight & I am happy with my purchase. I am planning to add some mods to make this bike more off road focussed.
@jncdi1535
@jncdi1535 2 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket and community support should be an important consideration for new riders. From personal experience, I didn't really know what I needed on my first bike but with the help of the KLR forums and aftermarket the bike was able to fit my evolving needs.
@johnpagejr.7628
@johnpagejr.7628 2 жыл бұрын
I will say that I like the way you are categorizing these bikes. I own a CRF300L Rally and I have to agree with others that this bike is kind of a Dual Sport / ADV bike. It is a very tall bike so it is not one for a short beginner rider but for a experienced rider it is a excellent light and more off road ADV bike. I do understand why you classified it as a Dual Sport.
@onthepegs
@onthepegs 2 жыл бұрын
To the Versys-X: better on road than CRF300Rally (especially with passanger), worse off-road than CRF300Rally. However, adding YSS front fork kit makes itt much better off-road (bottoming out less frequent and less hurtfull) and also on-road. For beginner off-roader it is sufficient with front fork kit. ABS: easy to defeat by putting it on center stand and revving up to 7000RPM. Or removing the ABS fuse.
@gromageindustries6745
@gromageindustries6745 Ай бұрын
The best one was missing. The Suzuki Vstrom 650xt 💚
@wizardmoto
@wizardmoto 2 жыл бұрын
My little brother started on a 2017 Versys-X 300, and I *WISH* I had access to that as a first bike. Its small enough to toss around trails, but large enough that cruising at 75 on the freeway is no problem. For the price it is a fantastically capable machine, highly recommend.
@freedomriding2558
@freedomriding2558 Жыл бұрын
true those feel more stable , I think its because of that big front upper part that makes it more stable .
@erickleinwolterink3524
@erickleinwolterink3524 Жыл бұрын
At 6'3" , 240lbs... The KLR feels pretty great under me, and the aftermarket and community around it made it an easy choice.
@TheMNB
@TheMNB 2 жыл бұрын
Your height is less important when considering seat height than your inseam. Some people aren’t short, but their legs are. Also, if you are a heavier person, once you are on the bike, it will probably sag more, so the seat height will be lower. Although it shouldn’t be that much when the suspension is properly set up.
@l.a.raustadt518
@l.a.raustadt518 2 жыл бұрын
As an older (been around the block) dirt/street rider it is great to read the comments. We have a lot of fun models and info has never flowed so much as these days! Can you go wrong, not really just ride!👍
@kgill5
@kgill5 2 жыл бұрын
Ian, Enjoy your informative videos. As a tall 6’4” retiree, I was looking for a dual sport that I could use as an adventure bike. Your description uses seat height as a limiting factor. I see the value in the KLM 650, but I love the tradition, simplicity, and customizability of the Suzuki DR650. Dual sport crossovers give us tall riders the option to adventure on.
@d.Cog420
@d.Cog420 Жыл бұрын
hmmm...KLM 650 could be tricky off road with the wingspan
@shoakman
@shoakman 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! double take at "1 million rpm" for the Versys X300 haha
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j 2 жыл бұрын
I like the KTM 390 best but I am biased as I have a 390 Duke. And of course, I like the KLR. The G310GS looks brilliant. Shame it isn't a 450 cc single.
@duko4423
@duko4423 2 жыл бұрын
The 390 certainly has to be the most bang for the buck
@svaralen
@svaralen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the video 👍 will you do the video of the Suzuki SV650 2022, can be interesting bike for beginners also ✌️
@diliplahiri9052
@diliplahiri9052 2 жыл бұрын
I love how endearing you sound! It makes the videos more funnto watch! Thank you
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@skaragianis
@skaragianis 2 жыл бұрын
I had an X300. It was good. It was not exciting. I put it down to torque. Tiring. But a great bike. Not pleasant to pick up. Exhaust and oil filter exposed. I replaced it with the dual-sport most hated by this guy. Love it 😀 Each to their own
@MrShohola
@MrShohola Жыл бұрын
Been riding a 2020 KTM 390 for 5k so far and it’s been great. Good seat height for me 6ft and great electronics and suspension. The only con would be the high end. I wouldn’t consider it a Hwy machine. Being a single cylinder I don’t feel the vibration is too much an issue
@MotoTvWoodsFarm
@MotoTvWoodsFarm 2 жыл бұрын
if you are a complete novice I would recommend you start on nothing bigger than 50cc, choose an underbone style bike like the Honda Cub Trail.
@the_katman2181
@the_katman2181 Жыл бұрын
Great list, and excellent comparison. Although I do think the one "dual sport" that should've been here too is the CRF300 Rally.
@mikemerrill175
@mikemerrill175 2 жыл бұрын
Itchy boots is literally riding mostly 2 track backroads from South America to Alaska on a Honda 300 rally which is impressive considering she is not an expert rider. Might be a great choice for a smaller rider where high speeds are not a requirement
@derekm6236
@derekm6236 2 жыл бұрын
She may not have been an expert rider when she started out on the first Himalayan in India, but I'd say she sure as hell is now!!
@mikemerrill175
@mikemerrill175 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekm6236 She’s surely a courageous rider/traveler who’s getting it done on a small simple bike.
@derekm6236
@derekm6236 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemerrill175 What constitutes "expert" then? Riding an overweight, overpowered bike, with electronics to make it manageable?
@mikemerrill175
@mikemerrill175 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekm6236 Expert is the ability to place top 3rd in a sanctioned competition either on or off road. Go to a track day and riders are separated by A, B, or C levels of ability. Bless her heart but Itchy is certainly not an A level rider but is an accomplished touring rider. Hope that helps😀
@derekm6236
@derekm6236 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemerrill175 Whatever.
@RhysoTV
@RhysoTV 2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to get my CB500X and bring it on some adventures.
@stephaniemusick171
@stephaniemusick171 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian. I think you combined a good list for entry level “adventure” bikes. I will certainly recommend this video that has questions about this motorcycle segment.
@oasissss7350
@oasissss7350 Жыл бұрын
As a 390 adventure owner, I 100% agree with everything you said. Light, fun and really good suspension for it's segment. If I may add, it's pretty good on road in the twisties too. However there's a con you didn't talk about which hurts it's of road capability which is the angled foot pegs. For some reason KTM didn't put flat ones on it despite marketing it as a light offroad/onroad. It's an easy mod to swap but wills still cost you around 200$ to change into a solid piece. This said I love how thorough you are in your videos and your work :D Really loving the dad/boomer vibes you have (it is a compliment)
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown Ian. All these capable new bikes with warranties under $10k is great! The 750GS is perhaps the best value, ADVing, distance touring, and comfortable commuting for $6/day?! 👌🏼
@LiveLNXgaming
@LiveLNXgaming Жыл бұрын
The KTM 390 ADV is a little pricier than some but it is a fantastic adventure bike with lots of customizability and longevity. Great to learn on and keep rather than just learn and sell
@louisdriscoll2580
@louisdriscoll2580 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t beat the KTM 690 enduro r, 340 lbs, 72 HP, awesome suspension, put a wind screen on it and a few bags and it will take you anywhere
@Red_Proton
@Red_Proton 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a comparison video. I found it very informative. Please consider including torque alongside the horsepower specifications. And, please consider including a comparison of the maintenance schedule for each. Thank you.
@chriskramlich1413
@chriskramlich1413 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's not cool to talk about Chinese motorcycles but what about the CSC RX4? I would think it would at least compare to the Himalayan and the cost is certainly beginner friendly.
@zacsieffert8767
@zacsieffert8767 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing about the RX4. It certainly is compelling at the price point and the spec capabilities as an intro bike. Revzilla did a fun video a couple of yers ago pitting the RX4 vs the RE Himalayan. kzbin.info/www/bejne/foGcgJ15l5ysa8k The RX4 didn't match-up, but then it was taken into more of the RE's territory. I ride a Ural and have a '06 Triumph Tiger 955i. I love the Tiger, and it is an amazing bike to ride, but it is really big, tall and heavy. Looking to downsize in a while and the CSC really interested me. The Ural, which I absolutely LOVE is, to be frank, closer to a tractor than it is a motorcycle.
@davidalderman7776
@davidalderman7776 2 жыл бұрын
CRF250 Rally is really to high but great bike. I just purchased a KLR650 2022, doesn’t feel heavier than than the 250 for some reason. That being said I haven’t had to pick it up YET. Thanks for the good videos. During my research your review on the KLR650 was honest and I share your views on the bike . I’m so happy I got it.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@slammermx
@slammermx Жыл бұрын
I got the Royal Enfield, I couldn't be happier.
@Broadus45
@Broadus45 2 жыл бұрын
@Big Rock Moto, great video. Here in Vietnam there are not a lot of official options from dual-sport or adventure motorcycles. The CB500X has become extremely popular for the big-bike feel. But I have tried the 390ADV, Verseys 300X, and CB500X. But the Himalayan and TRK502X is available here.
@ws8080
@ws8080 2 жыл бұрын
TRK502X in in the US also but never shows up on videos on like this. I think because of bias against Chinese manufactured bikes and it isn't that cheap. But Revzilla did a real weekend across the desert and mountains comparison between it and Himalayan. Himalayan was better off road, TRK better on road. What I wish we could get in the US is the VStrom 250 and that Suzuki would bump it to 300cc.
@UhYeahWhateverDude
@UhYeahWhateverDude 2 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with a Honda in SE Asia. When I lived in Thailand I traveled all over Asia and would never ride anything other than a Honda. They literally have Honda mechanics and shops on every corner.
@bogdan1207
@bogdan1207 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I was expecting to see the V-strom 650 XT here. It didn't make the cut for "beginner" class, or do you consider it more of a "non-offroad" ADV bike, if that makes any sense?
@the.communist
@the.communist 2 жыл бұрын
Too big n heavy
@ricardofabia
@ricardofabia 2 жыл бұрын
It needs updating, maybe making it a tad more off-road oriented would go a long way to make it desirable again.
@duko4423
@duko4423 2 жыл бұрын
It is most definitely fine for offroad. I have had mine in places it had no business being in and does it. Maybe not as fast or comfortable as some, but can do so much.
@MaskJambi
@MaskJambi 2 жыл бұрын
@@the.communist Lighter than a BMW 750.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 2 жыл бұрын
great bike for the $ but to say it is long in the tooth is an understatement sorry but the newer class of adv bikes blown them out the water
@majash
@majash 9 ай бұрын
The best reviews on KZbin
@SamiNami
@SamiNami 2 жыл бұрын
KTM 390 is one of the least reliable platforms in recent history, so I would have mentioned that. Royal Enfield is also known to leak oil and the wheel bearings usually goes in less than 6000miles. Other than that I think you did a great job.
@misterchuck6866
@misterchuck6866 2 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on the KTM 390 issues? Does that extend to the Husky 401s as well then?
@burkaanc
@burkaanc 2 жыл бұрын
Ive done a lot of research, if i was lighter that would be the one i get, the only issue for new bikes seems to be rear shock leaking. older ones had some issues with software, fogging dashboards etc,
@SamiNami
@SamiNami 2 жыл бұрын
@@burkaanc Did they fix the engines blowing up?
@burkaanc
@burkaanc 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamiNami havent noticed anything about that in the forums, dukes had some problems, but afaik they were fixedby the time they made adventure
@SamiNami
@SamiNami 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterchuck6866 It does extend to the 401. It's one of the worst designed platforms of all times. Suspensions, brakes, engine. electronic, software, condensation, rust it's just a bad design.
@ws8080
@ws8080 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of other reviewers have pointed out it is easy to dis the Versys X 300 - until you actually ride it. They have mostly moved it to be the #1 bike recommended for beginners since it is not intimidating, reliable, can handle highway speeds thanks to the Ninja 300 engine and RPM that is in it, but is surprisingly capable off-road. While so many here seem to want to talk about dualsports instead of Adv, as I move to purchase an Adv bike to pair with my on-road bike, I know it will mostly be used on-road or at best 50/50, so bang for buck sends me to Versys and CB500X as they can handle on-road, have a fairing, are still more capable than expected. If I decide not to worry about highway speeds, then Himalayan is going to #1 due to price, stability, and all the crashbars are stock. KTM has had reliability issues with the 390, and the BMW is a new Indian mft partner deal, so I'll wait and see before taking that plunge. Dual sports go to the bottom of my list due to the 50/50 on/off road split and highway comfort. Thanks for the high quality video.
@ericashwell1392
@ericashwell1392 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings - I think two crucial items were missed on the review of all of these bikes: The best BEGINNER anything is most likely a USED bike. Also, the carriage capacity was not discussed on these bikes. This is something a dealer is not going to tell someone that just jumps on a test ride, falls in love, then takes it home and loads it up and wonders why they just didn't buy a more capable bike for a couple more $K. For instance, I was seriously looking at the CB500X...but I'm about 100kg with gear and if I want to have my 75kg son come along - we are pushing max load of 195kg - before we add luggage. I have become a fan of the topics you present and have gained a lot of knowledge from your channel, but I do think this time the content didn't hit the mark of being as helpful for the main reason that most folks will likely grow out of those bikes quickly (except the BMW and the KLR). I think the V-Strom 650 and Tenere 700 should have bumped out the KTM and Versys - they may have been heavier, but they are certainly more ADV and not sport or priced over your 10K new threshold, so I go back to my first sentence...USED for beginner.
@wendygerrish4964
@wendygerrish4964 Жыл бұрын
Loved the humour. Definately one of the best reviews, very entertaining.
@normhanson981
@normhanson981 Жыл бұрын
BMW offers the Rookie to Rider program in the uk that you can buy at the time you buy the bike , hence I’m looking at the 310 BMW . Thanks , liked and subbed .
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