Best Budget Full Frame Cine Lens? 7Artisans 35mm T2.0 Cinematic Review

[@VictorLaforteza]

Currently setting up a new studio room!! Don't mind the constant changes in the talking head haha! QUESTION OF THE DAY: Why do cine lenses use T stops instead of F stops?

[@giovcarrillo4222]

T stops refers to the amount of light it lets in while F stops refers to the size of the opening which affects bokeh. It's easier for cinematographer to light a scene because they know how much light is hitting the sensor.

[@leftnrightrecords]

Transmission stops or T-stop lenses measure the exact amount of light that passes through the lens, making it an ideal choice to match exposure accurately. F-stop only measures how wide a lens will open.

[@kunalchoudhary5601]

t stop is for amount of light whereas f stop is for opening of lens

[@Taylor-qb1vk]

I keep going back and forth between wanting to pickup cinema glass or just stick to what I've got for now. The overall look from those clips is very nice. Not too clinical, but can still tell it was shot with a beast of a camera!

[@VictorLaforteza]

The A7IV delivers!! Cinema glass is nice but as a small production team without a first AC, it's kinda tough. It's refreshing to shoot with but I always end up using my AF lenses. It's the reason Sony wins for smaller crews.

[@Taylor-qb1vk]

@@VictorLaforteza for sure ! I just shot my first music video since picking up the A7iv. It’s awesome. Only difficulty so far is consistent exposure for slog3. It was an outdoor shoot so histogram + EV reference only went so far. Like a moron I didn’t set skin tone zebras. All good lessons learned for the next one !

[@miino369]

the colors are amazing 🔥 that vintage look cherry on top

[@VictorLaforteza]

Right! I didn't even push the footage to my "vintage look" editing. Basic grading and it's done!!

[@royalexpertise]

Looks like a move. Instead of buying a film camera just to buy a lens. Sharp. Cine look. Works with Sony E. I like the idea.

[@LuizFontes]

I really like the look of the ttartisans lenses for the price. I love vintage lenses, and used to adapt them to my Sony camera, but hate using adapters haha

[@VictorLaforteza]

Right!! Sometimes the adapters make it so long and weird lol!

[@merutography]

Love it how you used that warmer color cast to your advantage! It looks great :D truly vintage

[@VictorLaforteza]

Creative solutions! hahahah it looks great tbh! Truly great for budget cine lens

[@albertwilliam3452]

These lenses are amazing like you said its about the feel and colors more than the sharpness thats why i started to collect some old vintage lens (pentax m42) 💖

[@VictorLaforteza]

Me too!!! they're just so full of life and way better to shoot with :)

[@yveslarivierre]

Great review 👍 I find strange that the 35mm as such a green/warm tint. The 50mm seems a little bit magenta and the 85mm quite neutral. On 7Artisans website they said « The whole series of lenses have a uniform color balance, so after changing lenses or switching between different materials still have uniform color, reducing post-processing pressure ». So not so uniform 🤔

[@VictorLaforteza]

100% true.. cine lenses should be uniform! But since these are budget… can’t really have em all :(

[@yveslarivierre]

@@VictorLaforteza Indeed 😏

[@Mpactpics]

I love the look. Remind me of film shot in the 60's and 70's, probably shot on 16mm film. To me, that's an impressive accomplishment that would be fun to work with. Do all the 7artisan lenses have this look? Thanks for the review.

[@VictorLaforteza]

I believe this series have this look :) don’t know for the other ones though!

[@woohyunkang6965]

what are the LUTs used in 0:10 and 3:37 ? I would like to buy them but I can't figure out which one in your store.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Hey! They’re all consolidated to the new pack sunset film lut pack 🙌🏽

[@GarettTV]

This looks like a sweet lens, especially at that price- loving the characteristics of it 😍

[@VictorLaforteza]

It really is! good value!!

[@bloodswarms]

I love that you used an A7 IV, for this review. I just bought the camera and I feel really confident in buying this lens now. What follow focus do you use with it?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I didn't attach any follow focus! but I would use any manual ones like the tilta one :)

[@rw717]

Great footage! and what is the opening music? thanks

[@dilanthevilan]

Bro song at the end ! Must know 🙏🏻

[@calebyep2396]

I know they have Vision line for APS-C cameras but is it possible use Spectrum full frame lenses with Sony FX30??

[@VictorLaforteza]

oh yeah 100%! it may be a tad sharper on the vision line since it's specifically built for apsc sensors but I havent had issues with this spectrum 35 on my fx30!

[@holliente]

Vic you got me in the mood to mediate 😂. I’ve never used a cine lens. But again you inspire me to start.

[@VictorLaforteza]

hahahah oops!!! It's quite nice but we do lose the almighty Sony AF. I do find manually focusing on a cine lens is a bit more pleasing than photo lenses!!

[@holliente]

@@VictorLaforteza Very true! So it kinda boils down to how bad you want that unique look with the expense of AF.

[@TheTravellersTale2021]

I think its a great cinema lens to begin with and had been giving a thought for a while and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@krzysztofd3428]

great review, but why the aspect ratio on artisan is a bit weird? is it customizable?

[@VictorLaforteza]

That’s just me cropping it in post!

[@giovcarrillo4222]

I started in manual grass when I switched to sony because I thought I don't need auto focus but I sure am now spoiled now having af lenses. It would be interesting returning to manual specially with this affordable option.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Same here! Sony AF is amazing for small team projects and efficiency for other creative work. I do have lazy days when I want to shoot something and rely on AF! When in full creative mode, MF all the way with all the manual lenses 🤌🏽 I find Sony cameras fill my creative moods to satisfaction lol

[@jayraymane4263]

That’s Netflix ready damn i am a new in the content space but this video is insane i am not able to describe it with words 😊

[@Janmayer]

A question about the A7IV: The 1080p24 is downscale from 4K?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes! If i'm not mistaken, it is downsampled from 4k :)

[@anugreh]

you're filming near my home, I love all the shots! May consider this lens

[@VictorLaforteza]

King west represent! Hahaha thank you! It’s a great budget cine lens for sure!

[@Bo_Hazem]

It's pretty cheap for the whole set, but the lack of 24mm is kinda a bummer. But overall we need more of these and I really love the look it makes.

[@devanshvasant6136]

Hey, I'm absolutely new to using a camera at all, and I have an apsc. So if I want a 35mm equivalent, I should go for the 24mm?

[@VictorLaforteza]

In terms of field of view (crop) yes but the compression and look will still be 24mm!

[@vaskoobscura_]

Hey man thumbs up awesome video really enjoyed it and hi from a fellow Torontonian.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Toronto represent! Glad you enjoyed it brother

[@SuperCollectorClark]

Great vid! I want to buy your lut but which lut did you use for this video? thanks

[@VictorLaforteza]

Film Base LUT! It's included in the Sunset Film LUT Pack :)

[@SuperCollectorClark]

@ Awesome! Thanks from Japan!!

[@qtben17]

Hey Victor, ever thinking of reviewing slr magic lenses?

[@VictorLaforteza]

At some point, yes!

[@tomaszbejnarowicz]

broo you have some pierogis in your city! did you try them?! :D im polish so thats the reason why am excited

[@kevin-haggerty]

Why dont they make this one for RF :(. I have the 50 and the 85 and I love them. Great lenses and literally would be pumped to have the 35 to round off the set

[@Suttevalli]

I totally agree. They are coming out with a 14mm rf but still no 35mm rf 😢

[@kevin-haggerty]

@@Suttevalli and I love these lenses too!!

[@davidedicesano]

Great video pal! I was looking for the 50 mm version at the same aperture. Do you think the colors are the same on the 50mm T2? Cheers greets from Paris

[@VictorLaforteza]

Thank you! The 50mm has a better color rendition I believe. This 35mm has a warmer colour tone.

[@wckoek]

I have tried the MFT cine lens of their but wasn't as impressed, haven't have the opportunity to get a hand on the FF Spectrum. Does it compares well with Meike or still not as good?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I havent tried the meike but this has a warm tone to it. I'd suggest getting into 1000-2000 cine lenses isntead

[@wckoek]

@@VictorLaforteza Yeah, it is better to spend more to get real tools in terms of FF cine lens. MFT is okay.

[@noisytenants]

Can you place VND, Pro Mist Filters on this (all?) cine lenses?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yup! 82mm thread :)

[@YuiSenpai]

hey man, nice shots! just wondering about the intro font. mind to share?

[@VictorLaforteza]

nt wagner :)

[@YuiSenpai]

@@VictorLaforteza thanks!

[@ejschiro]

Looks really good to me! Quick question... why do cinema lenses write the aperture with a T instead of an F like photo lenses?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Ha!! I was gonna include a section of this one in the video but I felt like I was gonna mess it up. Here goes nothing.. T-Stops are actually the measurement of the light intensity going through the lens to the camera sensor. Let's just say a cinema lens set all have a T1.5 and all of them are pushing through 95% intensity to the camera. This is super important to film sets as the exposure needs to be consistent throughout each focal length. On the other hand, f-stops are generally the size of the iris of a lens (aperture) but the problem is that, the light that goes through each prime lens with the same f stop value isn't consistent as they are built differently. So the exposure will have inconsistencies if you use photo lenses! There's an in-depth explanation by Gerald Undone, that video will probably explain it better.

[@ejschiro]

@@VictorLaforteza Dude! thank you for the thoughtful response.. makes complete sense. An F1.8 on a 50mm will be a different physical diameter than an F1.8 on a 135mm. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Keep up the good work.

[@samzurek8938]

I know this video is somewhat dated but I thought I might as well ask this here, I'm considering buying these lenses both the 35mm and 50mm I really like the image but most of my shooting is client work/run and gun sort of stuff. I'm also getting a sigma art 24-70mm lens but if I get a follow focus for this would using these lenses be worth it? I really like the image but without a first AC I know sometimes Cine lenses can be impractical.

[@samzurek8938]

i should also mention I'll be shooting on the A7IV

[@VictorLaforteza]

I would just use the sigma 24-70 for everything until you have the option to buy better cine lenses. Get the DZOfilm vespid primes to start off.

[@kuramafox1290]

Hi victor, can you recommend a good starting manual lens for my apsc sony. I love the affordability of the 7artisan and ttartisans series, but not the cinema lens right now. Can you recommend me good focal lengths to start with and maybe some examples of your favour lenses. I'm currently looking into the 7artisans 34 1.8 and 25 1.8

[@VictorLaforteza]

For apsc, 25-27mm would be similar crop as the 35mm full frame! I would go with that one first!

[@kuramafox1290]

@@VictorLaforteza thank you ❤️

[@ciudadanosdelcosmos]

hi, nice vídeo, can i take photos with these lens on sony a7c? thanks

[@VictorLaforteza]

yup! it'll just act as a manual lens

[@ciudadanosdelcosmos]

@@VictorLafortezabegginer here,, thanks for answering,,and subscribed,,sorry i mean if i only take a photo i will have that vintage style color? its not more o less the same than change colors profile on sony for having that vintage cine effect? all manual lenses are cine lenses? or i am wrong?

[@JerickMoss]

So if I do want to shoot at the wide open aperture do you shoot with a matte box or screwed on variable ND FILTER?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yup!

[@aoi_p]

So cool video!🔥🔥

[@VictorLaforteza]

Thanks 🔥

[@simplyfrank72]

Would love to see how these compare to slr Magic or even canon FD’s

[@VictorLaforteza]

Trying to reach out to SLR magic!! no reply yet! haha!

[@SoulJazzDance]

Nice video thank you very much. I am going to buy these lenses. For many of the reasons that you stated. I think they are future lomo classics

[@VictorLaforteza]

Not bad eh!

[@surinderchouhan86]

Can you add Nd filter or any other filter to it ?

[@VictorLaforteza]

yep!

[@surinderchouhan86]

@@VictorLaforteza Thanks for replying

[@shao6231]

hey victor, I wonder which lens you buy to shoot both picture and video? DO YOU HAVE ANY ZOOM LENS WITH AUTO FOCUS?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I use sigma 28-70 2.8 :) my only zoom lens! Autofocus is great! There's some flaws with the image quality but I don't really mind it. I'd switch it to a better zoom lens sometime soon. Might do the sony 24-70 2.8 GM II

[@shao6231]

@@VictorLafortezacool !

[@jaymills1720]

Victor! Love the vids. Looking to do personal filming and photos. A7iv makes most sense but worry about both lack of internal LUT since I don’t want to grade and overheating. Thinking fx30 for video and a6600 for photo! Just worry about lowlight for both. Any thoughts

[@VictorLaforteza]

As long as you have a fast lens, it’s decent for low light!

[@jaymills1720]

@@VictorLaforteza went with w7iv and 24-105!!!

[@giuliomalloni3975]

Off topic question. Would you recommend a black magic 6k pro ? Is the image quality really that better than a Sony A74 for example?

[@VictorLaforteza]

If image quality is what you’re going for, yes! The pocket 6k will blow the a7iv out of the water.

[@phantomhighlights837]

where did you get the music? love it!

[@VictorLaforteza]

Musicbed :)

[@Roman_Gerasimov]

Color grading is great? It is all manual or a LUT?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Thank you! A little bit of both! I used my sunset luts for these :)

[@genuine_li]

thanks for the great video!! love your example footage! What is the name of the song @ the beginning? its great! :D

[@VictorLaforteza]

I forgot but it's by "elephant motel" found it on Musicbed!

[@genuine_li]

@@VictorLaforteza thanks my man

[@rodrigofavorito5881]

This video was recorded in slog3 sgamut??

[@VictorLaforteza]

yup!

[@noisytenants]

Also, the focal length...since this isn't a full frame lens, does that mean its a true 35mm on the fx30?

[@VictorLaforteza]

This one is a full frame lens! They have two versions and even if you get the vision, a 35mm will always be a 35mm no matter the sensor size is! Just the field of view will be cropped and it’ll still look like a 35mm focal length (compression and look). Hope that helps!

[@jamesbeard6103]

What's the title of the song you used in the intro? 😊

[@VictorLaforteza]

I can’t remember the title but the artist is called elephant motel!

[@jamesbeard6103]

@@VictorLaforteza thanks bro! 👌

[@aparre]

No se calienta la camara? He leído varios comentarios que se apaga al poco tiempo de empezar a grabar, pero no se si se ha solucionado

[@VictorLaforteza]

No, no se sobrecalienta. Puede soportar climas cálidos y largos tiempos de filmación

[@kunalchoudhary5601]

beautiful lens at the price point type of lens of someone can really shot travel vlogs and vintage photos. ❤️

[@visualsofrod]

Which luts did u uae in the street video?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Film base LUT x2 :)

[@visualsofrod]

Loves the luts

[@ki-ds-shall2241]

True 👍 respect from kenya 🇰🇪 👏

[@VictorLaforteza]

Wow!! Hello all the way to Kenya :)

[@bafeink2]

I actually like having warm tones in my footage whenever i shoot. It suits the "warm african" aesthetic

[@VictorLaforteza]

Definitely works easily to get that aesthetic!

[@BenjiXScott]

Amazing video - would love to see the color grading behind this!

[@VictorLaforteza]

It's very similar to the grading videos I have already posted! Just a little less effort on this one :)

[@BenjiXScott]

@@VictorLaforteza awesome, I’ll go check them out now 👊

[@flaviopresutti]

Estoy buscando hace tiempo un 35mm.. esperaba que fuera mejor con el focus breathing, pero parece que la calidad no decepciona tanto.

[@1995.photohmo]

Una pregunta, se que estos lentes están fabricados para cine, pero también sera bueno para foto? Quiero uno para cine pero mi presupuesto es algo ajustado, entonces estaría genial que me sirva para ambas situaciones.

[@jamesbeard6103]

What font are you using? 😊

[@VictorLaforteza]

Nt Wagner!

[@alaeifR]

Resolve's Stabilizer fixes focus breathing in a click

[@VictorLaforteza]

Ohhh really?? I haven’t tried.. What’s the settings that you use?

[@alaeifR]

@@VictorLaforteza kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX6uhKmth5WEmdE

[@justinalvarez4556]

Have you tried out the 1.05 cine lens too? What are your thoughts on that one?

[@VictorLaforteza]

nah not yet, I might ask if they could send me a test unit!

[@justinalvarez4556]

@@VictorLaforteza I'd definitely be interested to know! There's not much info on these lenses online, and almost nothing on the 1.05 vs 2!

[@jonathanfang9612]

I don’t understand why people diss on focus breathing. It adds so much character. I guess if you are doing documentaries or product video, but any films look pretty dope with breathing. Most anamorphic if not all have breathing

[@VictorLaforteza]

It’s a matter of preference and the type of work you do. I don’t do narratives and only do clean commercials, products, & corporate. So to me it’s a big no! But I totally get how it can be used for creative use for other jobs.

[@jonathanfang9612]

@@VictorLaforteza correct! That’s why I don’t like when people say the focus breathing is horrendous, esp showing to a lot of new creators you kind of sow the seed of having focus breathing is bad when it’s a artistic choice.

[@pikix]

It seems a great lens to travel with. It is on my wish list

[@VictorLaforteza]

It's not too bad tbh! though I prefer focusing with it using a follow focus system

[@maddmike23]

How is this with photography?

[@VictorLaforteza]

It should be good! Just the focus gear is meant for video though

[@maddmike23]

@@VictorLaforteza thank you! just recently ordered, Im more into video but also photo in the side, just needed a budget lens. Amazing shots btw!

[@revljvpe]

Why people doesn't like that focus breathing ? That's cool for films...

[@VictorLaforteza]

depends on the cinematography tbh. If it helps a shot, sure, it works but in general it's distracting

[@TierradeAzlan]

Not recommended for Hip Hop music videos because of the movement and the duration of autofocus?

[@VictorLaforteza]

There’s no autofocus. Even music videos are shot in lenses with no autofocus if they wanted to.

[@romankuhler]

Man Love your Look🤙🏼🍿🍿🍿

[@VictorLaforteza]

Thank you, Roman!!

[@rocellitocuyom2920]

bro the vintage looks still 🤘🏻 yah thats right let the camera do the works then correct a little bit to save time.

[@VictorLaforteza]

That's right!! get it to the final look!

[@janzelhill7234]

Love the colors

[@sadiqandnature]

That short film tho 🥵❤️

[@visualsofrod]

Dis u used ND FILTED in here?

[@VictorLaforteza]

not on this one but I used the extended ISO 200 and put the T stop to the max T8-T16

[@svetliomarkoff2909]

Name of luts use in this video?

[@VictorLaforteza]

It's my own SLOG3 conversion luts (I used film conversion LUT for it)

[@LaurenceAdams]

Good, o'l queen street. Nice video.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Have t1.05 series and this one coevrs full frame it would be amazing on my sigma fp :)

[@VictorLaforteza]

No way!!! That’s awesome to hear!

[@scampifingers]

"Clean Vintage Style" 👌

[@VictorLaforteza]

🤌🏽🤌🏽

[@MightyMigi]

this is the Lens Im getting with my BMCC 6k

[@iamwannabefilmmaker]

Thanks for the video! 👌 focus breathing in a cine lens ? 🤔 neeehhhhh no matter how it costs

[@VictorLaforteza]

HAS TO BE PERFFFFF but unfortunately you gotta spend so much $$$ for no focus breathing

[@ronidesai]

Can i use on SonyA6400??

[@VictorLaforteza]

yup!

[@ronidesai]

@@VictorLaforteza its crop sensor camera.. any idea about 7artisans T2 cine lense vs 7artisans 35mm t1.05?

[@VictorLaforteza]

@@ronidesai t1.05 is for crop and the t2 is for full frame. You can always use full frame on crop sensor cameras but not the other way around.

[@ronidesai]

Ok Thanks what you suggest from both I like more T2 35 mmone but i have crop camera sony A6400..much confused 😢

[@2buckgeo843]

So don’t buy an eos r10 and the 50 and 85mm of these lenses to shoot a film?

[@VictorLaforteza]

hmm? I don't think I've mentioned anything about canon and not be able to film with the other lenses for this lens set.

[@rawrolution909]

what’s this song?

[@VictorLaforteza]

I don’t recall but I’ll see if I can find it on one of my working files when I get back to the studio

[@Anyrhing77]

the lens is very sharp, sharpness and contrast are different things, the lens have low contrast

[@DanielKaganov]

This cinema glass seems fantastic and affordable!

[@VictorLaforteza]

Definitely!!

[@daniapriandi7722]

want to be able to do something like this,

[@VictorLaforteza]

You can easily start with your phone!! :D

[@daniapriandi7722]

Yes, I always study with my phone, it's very fun, 🙏

[@gurinderraikoti]

Cant we just achieve the same look in post production by using 35mm F1.8 lens instead?

[@VictorLaforteza]

You can achieve a lot of looks in post. The thing with buying lenses and filters is to get the look right off the bat.

[@aaronrivera17]

Is it for full frame?

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yes, this is their Full Frame Cine Lens set Called Spectrum! Their APSC Cine Lens Set is called Vision.

[@vidblancomedia]

great video

[@VictorLaforteza]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@DimaKochetkov]

Это прекрасно😊

[@teevoo_1]

I'm going to get one

[@caalvscam8842]

good job

[@mrdamiansingh]

so cool

[@jayclas4023]

I didn't know modern vintage could be the same thing🤣

[@VictorLaforteza]

Modern casing, vintage look ;)

[@philipzaylaa8628]

I mean who doesn’t like a vintage look tho

[@VictorLaforteza]

Right?! but I do know some people prefer sharp professional look!

[@philipzaylaa8628]

@@VictorLaforteza i think it’s all about the feeling you’re going for

[@delkaliche]

"...but with this 7artisans T2...(pauses)...lol...it's pretty bad!!!". 😂🤣

[@delkaliche]

...sidebar...the look this lens provided is mad nice...who wouldn't want it? Keep crushing it.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Honesty is the best policy ;)

[@Weedeogram]

look likw I am gonna get one for myself

[@VictorLaforteza]

It's a great one!!

[@electricdreamer]

Seems like a great bang for the buck.

[@VictorLaforteza]

Not bad yeah!

[@visionaryentertainment1431]

That focus breathing is a no for me

[@jirosaves_theworld]

compare to Meike 35mm T2.0 this one had character but that focus breathing!! *inhale (pun intended)

[@VictorLaforteza]

Trying to get a copy! Lol that pun was perfect 😂

[@gerardneedham]

I just wish that 7 Artisans would stop making there lenses as cheap as possible, like I love the look and the idea, but probably won't buy one

[@VictorLaforteza]

Yeah, if we get a truly great budget cine lens, I wish they had spent a bit more time to create everything decent with a little $$$ increase. That would really justify the cost.

[@sijilo]

☺️

[@kristianoimpress]

KAMUSTA....Filipino? @kristianoimpress