Best Camera Monitors 2024 Viltrox, Osee...

[@thomasfransson]

Update! I've discovered a tiny bug on the Viltrox monitors. When shooting anamorphic and using the de-squeeze function on the Viltrox monitors. The de-squeeze will be turned off when you power off the monitor. So, if you are shooting anamorphic and need to conserve battery this can get annoying. I've reached out to let Viltrox know about this issue and hopefully they'll adress this with a fw update

[@Iphixel]

This annoys me also… i want to use primarly anamorphic lens. Did they send an update? Hard to find firmware updates…

[@thomasfransson]

I've reach out to them a few times but it does look like there's any progress on this sadly.

[@AnuEletu]

quick one, Just picked up the Viltrox pro and for the life of me it won't read the HDMI output for some reason. can't get any images to show on the screen

[@thomasfransson]

The HDMI output from your camera? Probably your HDMI camera settings if that's the case, the monitor can handle a 4K signal up to 4K 30fps if you're outputting a higher frame rate it might not be able to convert the signal to a displayable image. Also some cameras have finicky HDMI settings not allowing you to view both your camera screen and over HDMI

[@AnuEletu]

@@thomasfranssonI have a Sony A6400 and tried sending signal to it at 24 fps and 30fps still nothing. Edited all the hdmi setting and still no signal recognizable

[@thomasfransson]

Unless you accidentally connected the cable to hdmi out on the monitor it could be a bad cable, broken hdmi port, bad battery, hdmi settings or a faulty monitor. When it powers on even if theres no signal you should be able to access and see the different exposure tools when double tapping on the monitor or using the buttons or control wheel... Sadly not familiar with the hdmi settings or menu in general on the a6400. You could reach out to viltrox and see if they have any suggestions or tests you can do to verify everything is working. Hook the monitor up to a dvd player, computer or graphics card with a different cable.

[@pierbover]

Something that I haven't seen mentioned in any review video is that the Osee Lilmon is a 10bit display while the Viltrox and others are 8bit.

[@thomasfransson]

True, that's another perk of the OSEE

[@randyk1919]

Great comparison -- I'm in the market and will definitely consider these! If I may suggest.. your voice becomes hard to hear when, at times, you speak very quietly and sometimes more quickly relative to your normal projection and pace. You may want to try adding some audio compression on your voice in post production.

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you for your feedback, I've since then improved that bit hopefully. May I also suggest my more recent monitor video where I compare 9 different monitors kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2HKc6CQoNWnj5o Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions. And thanks once again for taking the time to say thanks and provide feedback. Cheers!

[@derwinjax]

I really like the DC550 but what I don’t like is the location of the HDMI cable attachment.

[@thomasfransson]

Yes, they could've switched places on the in and out ports. But then again, as long as you're not using a cable with a super bulky connector, it shouldn't be a huge problem. Only if you want to turn the monitor around or swing it around sideways.

[@undefwun2135]

I wanted the Viltrox 550 Pro, but it was easier for me to get my hands on a Godox GM6S over the counter. Pretty damn happy. Image quality is great.

[@thomasfransson]

Nice

[@EvertonSchmitt]

Nice video!! I would like to know about the delay of the Viltrox, I've watched a lot of videos and no one talks about it, and by the images it seems to have a strong delay. I really want to buy one as an upgrade to my Feelworld MA6, but this is holding me back. Thanks again for the review!

[@thomasfransson]

I've not done any latency comparisons with the DC-550 but it seems quite avarage. Lower latency than my Feelworld F6 Plus. The HDMI protocol have it's own latency obviously, but it may also come down to what signal one is sending to the monitor and the amount of internal processing in the monitor when it comes to latency performance. I've been thinking about this but have yet to come up with a controlled way of measuring this between different monitors.

[@EvertonSchmitt]

@@thomasfransson Perfect! Thank you for the answer and attention. I purchased it now, let's see how it works!

[@thomasfransson]

Nice! Glad to be able to help. Hope you enjoy your new monitor.

[@TheLinesEnd]

Bruh the feelworld f6 pro is AMAZING. It’s 1600 nits, has all the tools, and comes with a battery.

[@thomasfransson]

Lot's of options out there. But these are my top pics. The Feelworld F6 pro has the brightness but falls behind in other areas.

[@TheLinesEnd]

@@thomasfransson would you care to elaborate? Other than it not being a recorder it has every tool you can think of. Peaking, false color, zebras, mapping, desqueeze, 3d luts, calibration…

[@thomasfransson]

It totally depends on what one need the monitor to be able to do. In a studio setting or for indoor events, even 400-500 nits would be sufficient a lot of times. Are you using manual focus a lot, in that case a monitor with higher pixel density than the F6 will probably make your life easier. Do "you" shoot material for chroma keying or other technical applications. Or maybe narrative work, then a monitor like the Lilmon 5 might be a better choice as it gives you control over things like gamma type and color space. And let's you monitor your exposure before any applied LUTS for correct white points for correct exposure and things like exposure matching. Is having minimum lag an important factor and so forth... There are a lot of options and choices and like I mentioned in the beginning of this video - "These are MY top three..." others may have different brands and models they would like to recommend based on features, price and other factors. My list is based on monitors that own and/or have used extensively myself. I've not used the F6 Pro, if I had, it might have made it onto the list, who knows... I have the older F6 Plus which didn't make it on this list... But I use it almost daily in my studio and at work.

[@Chopstlcks]

How’s the battery life?

[@watzmaaname]

Excellent comparison! Thank you!

[@thomasfransson]

Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching

[@josecarrillocabrera2508]

Great video Thomas! So the viltrox false color reads after or before the lut is applied? I would rather have it read before the lut for achieving more precise exposure. Thanks!

[@thomasfransson]

I believe it's the standard after. (I run my luts in camera these days) But normally you'll measure after. The Osee offers more technical control in this regard.

[@ResonatorProductions]

I found this comparison very useful, thank you 👍

[@thomasfransson]

Glad to hear that! Thank you for taking the time to comment

[@Ant-dx8yt]

I have a monitor and can honestly say I've used it once, it's been in its case for a year nearly, i guess you should carefully consider if you need one or not before parting with your hard earned cash, I totally regret buying one, along with all the accessories, batteries, cases etc etc, they are a great asset IF you actually need one..... I got caught up on the idea of having one but in practical terms... nah... I can't even remember what model I bought 😅, I'd have to dig it out to see😂. BUT, this is a great review of these monitors, its a great comparison for people looking for a good practical monitor.

[@thomasfransson]

I hear you, if it doesn't solve a problem or make things easier it doesn't have to go on the rig. Except matte boxes when doing client work even indoors ;) Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@woolyimage]

The viltrox 6" X2 & X3 have changed the game again. Just bought the X3 which also has SDi in and out

[@thomasfransson]

Yep, Viltrox did it again.

[@danielbarrocas62]

I purchased TWO Viltrox DC-550s (NOT the PRO version) from B&H! I love the form factor, great sun hood, amazing BRIGHT image! However, I may have to return both due to ZERO customer support from Viltrox! Firmware updates are nowhere to be found and all contact with VILTROX is in Chinese! I failed to research this aspect online before ordering!

[@thomasfransson]

I don't think there's any firmware updates available for these yet. If there's any official versions they should be on the support section on their website. Which is available in multiple languages, i visitit quite frequently for reference ;) May I ask what issue have you encountered that requires a firmware update or fix? Not sure what clicked on the customer service end though. I haven't had any problem getting in contact with them personally. So sadly can't offer any advice there.

[@jasongigg1146]

Hi thanks for the video, it was very informative. I have a question I’m a total beginner never owned a monitor my question is I do a lot of wild life photography and want start making videos. I’m using a Sony a9 and Sony a1 . Do I need just a monitor or do I need a monitor that can record videos. Can you give me some advice please. From Jason

[@thomasfransson]

Hi Jason, both of those cameras offers really good internal recording options so I wouldn't say it’s necessary to record externally.

[@ahdam82]

I need to find a monitor that has full touch screen capabilities of the Sony cameras menu. The DC 550 pro is not a touchscreen monitor as I cannot access anything on the camera side. I can’t access my menu. I can’t use the touchscreen to control focus or access the cameras menu. I would have never bought this monitor if I knew this! Any recommendations for a true touchscreen monitor with full access to Sony camera? Essentially I want a exact copy of my camera monitor and function just larger it does not have the budget option. Price is irrelevant.

[@thomasfransson]

Exactly, 99.7% of the external monitors on the market doesn't offer camera control, it's actually a very recent feature available to cameras other than RED for example. The most common one that works with Sony is the Portkeyes LH5P II and a handful or others Like the new Atomos Shinobi II Which I'm hoping to review soon as I've used it for little over a month now. But actually haven't tested the camera control feature yet. But those two and if you google monitor with camera control for Sony might give you more options. Some monitors will have camera control but perhaps only for RED, ARRI or other brands so thats what you will need to do If you want something with camera control.

[@ahdam82]

@@thomasfransson thank you so much I appreciate it! I’m gonna return the viltrox and order the 7” portkeys!

[@ahdam82]

Now I understand what you’re saying the portkeys LH5pII got it. The LH 5P and the LH7P do not have the touch focus. I’m new to this stuff I just bought the FX 30 for Contant creation. It seems so weird to me that having exactly what’s on. The camera screen is hard to find that blows my mind. I would think that would be a staple. I mean, they have every other feature known to man.lol

[@thomasfransson]

From what I've heard the Sony Creator App might be another option to look into. It's supposed to let you use your smartphone as an external monitor and from my understanding will support touch focus. You should be able to find it on google play and app store (it's free and made by Sony)

[@ahdam82]

@@thomasfransson I have two different apps from Sony. When is the Sony creators app and the other one is the monitor control app which is a little bit better. The problem is with that anytime that you use your phone for something else to disconnect you from the camera. I was really hoping to find a 7 inch but I did get the LH5p II it should be here tomorrow! Thank you so much for helping me

[@RonnerFTW]

How would you compare these to an Atomos Shinobi? Got a deal for one + a dual NP charger and a F970 battery for $280, however I don't know if it being +5 years old at this point is gonna bite me down the road instead of going with newer versions like your showcased in this video.

[@thomasfransson]

That's a tough choice - I believe the Shinobi sits at around $400 new. And I think that's with batteries and the whole nine... So not a significant saving buying used (if I'm still correct about the $400) It's not a bad monitor an similar to the Lilmon 5 in weight, brightness and overall features, maybe the Lilmon have a few more features. While the shinobi may have a slightly higher pixel density compared to both the Viltrox and Osee monitors - If you need that extra detail for even more critical manual focusing. There's also things like cages and other 3rd party accessories available for the Shinobi. But in most cases I think the Viltrox and Osee Monitors can do a similar job for less.

[@unityartistryfilms521]

Do not get the Shinobi warning… I bought June 2022 (Amazon new) used it one hand handful of times barely you used. I was using the Shinobi to mirror off the remote of the DJI RC 2 to mirror off. Last week I used it and it was working perfectly flying this weekend. I went flying used it. It worked for about two hours then it quit now it won’t turn on. I tried everything… had it connected and powered up Zitay dummy battery Samllrig 99w battery… never use the adapter, took it out of the box. Tried it out and still no go….Quite upsetting!

[@tasselears]

Do you know what monitor will support 120p output? I just need it for slomo

[@thomasfransson]

Most if not all of them do. The key to shooting at higher frame rates is to make sure you've set your HDMI output (in your cameras menu) to 1080 instead of 4K All the screens are 1080 so you're not missing out on anything. I've shoot plenty of 240fps for product shots this way.

[@studiostone3703]

This was the review I waas looking for as I'm considering all 3. How do these monitors handle open gate? I know they're both great for anmorphic with de-squeeze but will they display the full open gate image from something like my S5ii? I know some monitors I've considered - the BlackMagic VideoAssist 12G - will not (at least won't record in Braw in open gate).

[@thomasfransson]

That's a great question! Sadly I don't have access to any camera that shoots open gate so I'm unable to test it. Perhaps there's some S5ii forums or groups where you might be able to find the answer. If you asked me to guess, I'd say the OSSE monitor would be the one I'd bet on. But that's just a guess.

[@studiostone3703]

Seems like the way to go. Between the 10 bit color, color accuracy and menu options, I think I’ll pull the trigger and report back about the open gate question.

[@thomasfransson]

Please do, I think more people are going to be wondering about this in the future

[@studiostone3703]

@@thomasfransson At first pass I thought the Osee didn't display an open gate-sized image, but after watching a walkthrough video, I realized the vertical range was just being blocked by status bar overlays that can be turned off in the settings. This monitor works great in open gate (4k not 6K) and 4K60 (downgraded to either 4K30 or 1080p60). It's a fantastic monitor so far. Very bright, intuitive for menu set up and I like the titt arm when I'm not attaching it to a top handle with a more direct mount. Money well spent.

[@ClareFPV]

Excellent review and amazing comparison. Thanks mate 👏🏼

[@thomasfransson]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching

[@4thwalltvandfilm]

Nice set up. It's amazing how inexpensive these monitors are. ...If they are any good and last.

[@thomasfransson]

Indeed, I remember paying way more for my first monitor and it pales in comparison to these ones.

[@sladjj]

You don't talk about color accuracy. Which one is better in that regard? Which one shows an image closer to what we see in camera? Thanks

[@thomasfransson]

Thanks, If that's a priority you should definitely go with the Osee. It even has a port for calibration if you have a colorimeter. The Viltrox monitors can be adjusted and they're not bad. But the Osee Lilmon 5 gives you way more control at a more professional level. You can check out the dedicated Lilmon review on the endscreen, I think I even opened that video with "how color accurate it is"

[@Zの黙示録]

I'm kind of leaning towards Viltrox but I believe it's a bit heavier than Lilmon especially with sun-hood attached, tho can you actually feel the difference in hands?

[@thomasfransson]

There's a slight difference. I believe the Viltrox is 280g not sure if that's with or without the hood. Osee Lilmon 218-220g and is a bit slimmer. So it depends, if you’re looking for the most compact and lightweight option- Lilmon would be the one. Then again for hand held shooting, a little extra weight is always welcome to help steady the camera.

[@vmoldo-com]

hey mate can you please tone down the base in your sound mix its making many subwoofer go crazy

[@thomasfransson]

Haha ok, I'll see what I can do about that.

[@humbleprogress1226]

How does the portkeys PT6 compare to these?

[@thomasfransson]

It's a good monitor in a lot of way. Sadly it's not as bright at just 600 nits which can be a bit on the lower end for outdoor use.

[@danielribaisart91]

Hi Boss, all of this monitor are 8bit color?

[@thomasfransson]

The Lilmon 5 has a 10bit display. Just a side note, even if you record in 10bit, most people monitor with an 8bit lut and delivers in rec709 (8bit) So unless you have a different workflow and deliverables than standard rec.709 There's no real benefits of a 10bit monitor. But the Lilmon 5 is still a very good monitor.

[@EugenBrinzoiu]

Excellent…..Thank you ❤

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you, I'm currently working on a bigger comparison with 9 different monitors. Hopefully it'll be out on Wednesday if you want more comparisons ;)

[@coin777]

Viltrox DC-550 has false color?

[@thomasfransson]

Yep, two different types - Type 1 & Type 2 ;)

[@SeanONeill01]

Would any of these picks support HLG 4k 60fps input?

[@thomasfransson]

None is specified to do that. You'd probably want to step outside of this budget range if you need that signal to be 60fps instead of setting the HDMI resolution to 1080 on your camera. The Lilmon 5 is 10bit (8bit+FRC) That's probably the closest one. Feelworld has one or two that accepts 4K 60fps but with 8 bit panels. Next up would be the Shinobi II

[@SeanONeill01]

@@thomasfransson Thanks for that, appreciate the quick reply!

[@gerdavfx]

What about the 550 Lite? Is it much worse?

[@thomasfransson]

The Lite have a different panel, not as bright as the regular and pro version. If you're mainly planning on using it indoors it'll work well. But it will be difficult to see details out in bright sunlight.

[@DpacOP]

How much do they cost?

[@thomasfransson]

Check the links in the description for the current price. Prices go up and down and can vary in different markets, that's why I included the links that will show you the current price instead of burning a price into the video.

[@JonSteine]

Might have to upgrade soon 😅

[@thomasfransson]

Swing by and try them out when you feel like it.

[@daniel_grachev]

Awesome comparison👍🏼 got DC550 pro literally this week as my first ever monitor and wow, does it make the job easier! Made me actually want to start using manual focus and I was so happy to see that you can use focus peaking on a gray-scale image at the same time. Having customiseable pages and not just the quick buttons would've definitely been helpful for quick workflow, but oh well, can't have it all😂

[@thomasfransson]

Awesome! That's still a great monitor! Definitely experiment with manual focus. It opens up for a lot of creative shots and focus pulls within shots.

[@xxStreetRidaxx]

I got the dc 550 pro recently as well, the only thing that’s disappointing is the LUTS feature. It doesn’t display all your luts properly😪 None of my phantom luts are displayed right, super contrasty and the colours are just not right. That’s my only issue with this monitor

[@daniel_grachev]

@@xxStreetRidaxx yeah, I got the same problem, but I thought that my luts were just being bad 🤣. Now I kinda want to download their lits from their website and see if those work at all... Is it really an issue with the monitor? Maybe it just needs to be a certain format or we are missing something?

[@thomasfransson]

Interesting, I run the lut (Phantom Neutral) in camera on my FX30 - so I've just test loaded a few luts on to the monitor to verify that everything works as should. Are you using the conversion or monitor luts on the monitor? Whatever one you have on there now, try the other one and see if that helps. There's the WDR-Pre-LUTs, Cine, ATOMOS monitor luts if I recall correctly...

[@xxStreetRidaxx]

@@daniel_grachev It’s able to handle normal luts like a conversion lut but anything heavy will display with orange-ish colours and a punchy contrast image, it’s a mess

[@oswaldcobblebot]

How are these budget monitors?!?

[@thomasfransson]

They cover most people's needs. And I just reviewed 9 different ones in this more recent video kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2HKc6CQoNWnj5osi=RUp3v1iTkzwmE3Iw if you’re looking for more options and slightly pricier ones.

[@f1remandg]

I’m sorry but your mic needs adjusting or your music as on some sentences your voice disappears on whatever frequency it is, and in the end although I was enjoying the review, I had to give up as it became annoying!

[@thomasfransson]

Yep, some audio settings went bananas on this one.

[@isbestlizard]

I see a lizard I buy