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[@johnmccarthy2545]

This Might Be a year old video. But I've been researching my first CO2 laser and AEON especially the new redline is calling above all others. Thanks for posting

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

There is going to be and update soon. "The Experience" is still up and running but now they have the redlines there. I went to the ISA show and saw what the other Manufactures were making. There were very few changes nothing like the Tool less Mirror and lens change system. I am sure you would be happy if you selected a REDLINE. Aeon was a leader when they started "The Experience" and they are still the leaders. CHeers that thanks for the great comment. Come in to Freedom Laser on Facebook , comments are not censored , Open Discussions will aid you get the best tool for the job.

[@Blake-gh8xl]

Sweet, non sponsored feedback is the best!!! Unbiased. Thank u sir.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Months after I made this video, I because an "Aeon Partner" you can read about what that means on their website. Bottom line I could get a small commission if someone mentions my name. It is only fair I share that. There could be and update to this in the next few months. Hope you subscribed. I always tell be to do their own research and really evaluate what they are going to make with the machine, Get the RIGHT TOOL for the job. CHEERS and thank you for such a nice comment.

[@thomasnadeau5076]

I have seen 3 of your videos recently. Great job. I am from Melbourne. So cool to see you in my neck of the woods. New subscriber.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

How cool you are from Melbourne, you have the opportunity to go see this yourself. If you decide to go to the "Aeon Experience" I would love to hear your impressions. To me having experience limited to Diode Lasers, I would love to hear your opinion on their machines. I loved my time in your community, I hope I get to come back sometime soon. I had a great time while I was there.

[@laseroflovecreations]

Your videos are amazing to watch. Thank you for your wit, wisdom, and sparkling personality. I have the Mira 7. I’ve never liked back as the future is too bright. ♥️☺️♥️ good luck.

[@jezaelp]

Thanks Gorge. Great information. For a while I did look a lot of videos trying to compare the different brands and I have to tell you. You my amigo put a very good info in your video. Excellent work. Gracias.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

You are most welcome. If you have the ability to go check out the "Aeon Experience" go. You will learn so much. Even if all things are equal with the machines, the people make a big difference. I am not a subject matter expert, and I don't think I ever will be, but the Techs and Mangers are. For the INFORMATION I do not have, I know where to go get it. CHEERS..

[@jocelynwehner2163]

Thank you so much for this beautiful video

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

no reason not to compare them all in one place.... I guess there is some beauty in that. CHEERS..

[@lawrenceharbin4545]

You always put a bright smile on my face by making videos

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank you Lawrence... working on a slab table video right now. Hope you like that one... people would be so much happier if they just made something.

[@emiliacofer549]

Thank you for this beautiful video

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

If you are in the Market for a CO2 you will enjoy going to the experience, and I had a great time in Flordia also.

[@nathanbollinger5371]

This channel brings some great content, and I love it

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

glad you liked it Nathan

[@thebosun181]

Thanks again....some food for thought.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank you feel free to get in touch if I can help you... CHEERS..

[@jaimestafford658]

Great information, George! Such a great way to show the competitor's lasers compared to Aeon Lasers in a non-biased way.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

The best way to insure you get the best machine for your needs is to do your own research. Aeon has created a very unique opportunity to do the research. thank you for the comment.

[@siennaharding7025]

I loved the way you made this epic video!

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Epic... Comment.... thank you.

[@stevenburgess3023]

Watching this was highly amazing!

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

to think AEON did this is amazing.... hope you find the right C02 for you.

[@dennisgatlin8779]

This is the best channel I came across

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank you for the nice comment

[@builtbyjessie2209]

Thanks for sharing

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

If you have any questions you are free to e mail me at [e-mail] or join our facebook group "freedom laser"

[@feliciastewart4563]

I enjoyed watching this video

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank you Felicia.... more to come soon.

[@TheRykerDane]

Yes, yes and yes. You pretty much said it all. I have had a Mira 9 for about 9 months and it has so many great attributes over the others. My first choice was maybe a Boss, but then soon realized they didn't turn out like their Marketing made them sound. And also, I have used AEON customer tech service, (EJ was in the video), he was the best and took 1.5 hrs to talk with me about dialing in some settings to get the best results. Just that call from a pro expert was worth a lot of $$$, but also call them every day for the next 5 years and you have saved some money. Danny wants you to call into the techs and ask questions. It keeps them up to date with info, helps the customer, and helps them be able to serve other customers too. If you do have an issue, it is resolved right away. Great company for sure. Oh by the way, I have not had to adjust, tune up, or fix anything on the machine in 9 months of owning it, and I have created hundreds of products!

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Let me respond with YES, YES, and YES.... I am really trying to stay away from HAMMERING any other manufactures laser, that should be something that each individual grades for them self. AEON putting all the lasers in the same location for people to make the decision is genius. I wish I had had more time with the "management team" to see how they built what they have. I walked away from the experience truly believing they were the best in class for the price. I wish I lived closer, I would ask them if I could do more videos. Cheers and thanks for sharing your views with others who may see this video. P.S. I subscribed to you... Great Content. Check our "TheRykerDane"

[@TheRykerDane]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser Thanks so much, yep that would be a long Trek to go make videos, but I am sure you will make lots of them once you get your new Laser in. Have fun!

[@evebarry369]

I found this video quite interesting and unique!

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

get involved with Lasers .. you will not regret it...

[@miawilliamson1082]

Well, I thought this would be so exciting to watch

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I hope my breakdown hit the spot for you Mia. If I can help you please reach out. Cheers.

[@bobmair4529]

George, great video. I am in the same spot, just a couple of months behind. I started looking at thunder, in the process stumbled across the videos from Emily (she sold me !). I started looking at the Aeon Mira 7, then slowly moved to the Mira 9 and now strongly looking at the Nova 10. I greatly appreciated your ‘leg work’. I agree with everything you have said. I am a novice, never used a laser. But I am a handyman and love projects, have used photoshop for years and I am looking forward to see how I can do laser art with photos. Need to learn more about material. Also looking into the metal engraving, but that is another step. PLEASE, let us know which machine you settled on and how the setup goes, i know there is a 60 to 90 day delay……you so have lots of time to share more of your insight. Thank you

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I bought the MIRA 7 was all I really needed at this time. Sales follow up and advise was really good. I did a video on my purchase that is in my channel play list. I was pulled away from my shop on a family emergency, but I will be back shortly. I have a video half shot about my first project on the Mira. I am not wanting to go into production, but I am interested in how people can use these to make money. I think that is the direction the channel will go. The next idea is in my opinion EPIC but it is not like I live without an EGO , it's my idea so it has to be EPIC , right? Thank you for the very nice comment.

[@ernestgardner7439]

This video has some positive vibes.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Aeon was very positive about how they brought all the lasers into one place. it is amazing.

[@MMMilanooo]

Hi George! Great info! I’ve been eyeing a Mira 7 or 9 but I wasn’t sure how much power it needed from the electricity in my house. Is there a minimum requirement the wiring in my house needs to be, to be able to run a laser? For instance, just running the portable air conditioner and air fryer at the same time can overload a circuit in my house. So I’m kind of worried about if I can even run a laser in the house.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

The Laser has a standard 110 plug. But you would need to consult with a professional to look at your Electrical panel to see what you have available. Sometimes it is just a matter or changing a breaker... Will all things electrical talk to Aeon Sales and get their advise.

[@jeffreibling4074]

Nice video! You kinda remind me of Dave Horowitz, your style.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

thank you very much for the nice compliment. There is a lot of puffery in this industry and seeing all the machines in one place sure made a difference in my mind. Cheers and if you in the are market for a CO2 you may want to see the next video that will be released tomorrow its and interview with an expert.

[@timesparsenjr7479]

I been researching for a while now, I just got an omtech cause the price. I used to have a glowforge. The ultimate goal for me is to get a AP laser, I think there the best out there right now.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I am very happy for you. The goal of my channel is to inspire others to "TRY IT" sitting in from of the TV watching the NEWS pretend everything is bad is just a waste of time. Congrats! Go shoot your laser! Cheers!

[@digiital]

Mind sharing the results from the tags you engraved to see the results over the lasers.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

The Video was getting long, so I cut that portion out. Also I wanted to be fair and not slam any specific machine, and encourage peope to go to the experience and do it for themself. You could of course send samples to the Companies you are interested in and have them send your results. I will say Aeon was the best, to my eye. Deeper question do you really need that precision? I have talk to the Aeon Sales Staff they are no pressure, call them, tell them George give them high marks for being fair and honest! Get the right machine for the job.

[@gensam1380]

Hi sir. Do you have experience about cut glass with co2 laser? Thank you

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I am not sure about CUTTING glass with a CO2 have never really tried it. I have see very accurate cuts made in Glass with a UV laser.

[@404_profile_not_found]

I'd be interested in a response from the other CO2 laser manufacturers that were demo'd to see if the laser chatter or wobble was correctable through a servicing or if it was intentionally induced by the aeon crew - loosening screws, unstable voltage, whatever.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

You seize on a very important point! I do not suspect AEON did anything to negatively effect the outcomes. But I could anticipate this comment that is why I say "DO NOT BELIEVE" me go to the Aeon Experience yourself and see. I also did not show the results from the different machines for just this reason. In a past career I looked for "BAD PLAYERS" and I was very good at it. I did not suspect anything, in fact the TECHS that were there all wanted to get the best results from the machines. Send them a sample from your machine and ask them to put the same graphic on from one from their Nova Series and you can compare that way. In some applications the accuracy from the AEON Nova may not be that important.

[@Rossm812]

​@@GeorgeKennerLaserthe trouble is they may not have intentionally introduced, but did they attempt anything to address it? My Omtech after two years of use has none of that issue visible.

[@theconsummatenerd]

@@Rossm812 I was thinking the same thing considering they are selling the same machines at almost a 50% markup. I don't trust any companies these days. Also, if they are so knowledgeable about lasers, wouldn't they be able to straighten out most of these issues?

[@cluebin8398]

From what I've heard, getting an actual person on the phone from any of the China machines is pretty impossible. Tech support is where they have the lowest marks. Also, pretty much all products that come out of China do not have anything resembling QC as part of the manufacturing process. This is one of the ways they get the price down. But this in turn increases the probability that you will actually NEED tech support, and then you are SOL unless you are good at figuring things out on your own.

[@adambyerly9596]

I am trying to decide between the Aeon Nova and the Thunder Nova. I had the Aeon demo experience scheduled for the 2-18-23 and they cancelled didn't seem to care about my time invested into purchasing their product at all. I was also told that they wont be able to sell me a machine until June. This was very disappointing and makes me wonder if they are not going to be able to provide exceptional customer service and quality control of their product with the influx of sales. I am going to probably go with Thunder.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Adam, this seems odd to me. Let me check into it. I have seen both machines and tested them, to me there is no comparison. The NOVA's for both companies come in different models. Which one were you interested in? Please e mail me at [e-mail] I would love to dive into this deeper.

[@nikdonic]

Thanks for the video, there is lot of valuable informations. I already purchased 100W laser machine dirrectly from chinse manifacturer for 3k. There are lot of options, some lasers have two heads, one with lence for engraving and other with longer focal point for cutting. There are also lasers with stacionary galvo head which engrave with better precision and speed, with second head for cutting. I dole a lot of research before, SarbarMultimedia channel have wery nice series about optimising lasers for specific tasks to achive best details

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank you very much for the comment sharing with the "community" is to be honored. I will check out the videos you mentioned. Cheers!

[@rileycrain5784]

What’s up. How is the machine doing for you? Looking at the same one

[@nikdonic]

@@rileycrain5784 it arrived just a week ago🤣🤣 but works nice

[@rileycrain5784]

@@nikdonic you went with the omtech I presume?

[@nikdonic]

@@rileycrain5784 no, it was some pocall seller in Slovakia which don all the tax magic for me

[@brianlitner6344]

Come over to Aeon and test our competitors machines for yourself. LOL. What a setup this is. What a surprise aeon was the best!? shocking!

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

You know I do not kick comments, but really you have an opportunity to go see multilpe manufactures machines and you don't think that is a good idea. Even if you just see fit and finish? Come into Laser Freedom in Facebook and elaborate on why you think it is a poor idea, there are other people in there that have been to visit AEON, don't take my word for it. Cheers , and thanks for the comment.

[@CustomCraftedDesigns]

How did the thunder lasers stack up in your opinion?

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I do not want to say anything bad about anyone's machine, nor did AEON. This is really about getting the best machine for your needs. The message I strive to send in you can go to Aeon and test them all yourself. After being there I favor their machine (AEON) but I have not contracted to buy one. One Industry LEADER told me they wanted to see more in real specs, in this video. Who knows where this leads? All I know is that I heard some things that were NOT honest and because of this I went and researched, all the machines in one location. As I walked away from the "Aeon Experience" I feel like I made friends with the TECHS, and that they make friends with all their clients. If you are new to this industry, you are going to need more than just the machine, you are going to need support. Just my opinion but Aeon was impassioned about LASERS and helping their clients.

[@CustomCraftedDesigns]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser thanks for the info

[@hittlocke7501]

Hi sir, a pleasant day to you, what can u suggest for a laser unit that can engrave/etch portraits on granite / marble slabs ? A response is highly appreciated (: God bless u and hoping for more vids !

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Most CO2 lasers will do the job, but some people would argue that the best results for a photo will come from a 10 watt or greater diode laser. But the Diode will be much slower. I guess it depends on the detail that you need from the job. I need to do a test on slate with my Mira, I know it has the accuracy greater than some other C02 lasers.

[@hittlocke7501]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser so the watts 10 up is good as long as it engraves granite ? And also is a wood cutting laser same as a granite / marble engraver? I subbed and liked your vids ! Thank u so much !

[@hittlocke7501]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser and if its a diode what do u suggest for a starter engraver ? Thanks (;

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

@@hittlocke7501 I would say the Xtool D1, if you are in the market send me an e mail if I have or can get you a discount, I will try and get you a discount code.

[@johnhubbard6262]

I was trying to pay attention to the video, but that is one buffed out squared away garage. The service and repair contractor in me just could not stop looking at your H20 feeds, FAU, and Water Heater. I bet you could eat off those floors.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Yea you got me figured out and after the first of the year I have more stuff coming... Jet Band Saw, Jet jointer and Shop Fox Dust Control... You may not believe this but I get my Gen 5 4Runner in there every night to. Cheers Bro, Merry Christmas.

[@johnhubbard6262]

That is hard to believe, the wife got a Navigator last year and it has to live on the driveway and just dream about the garage.@@GeorgeKennerLaser

[@KiLLaDaTa]

If Aeon wasn't an option what would you go with?

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I am a fan of the enclosed system so I would say Epilog but that comes with some downsides based on software. Once I saw the ease of removing the belt for cleaning if it was even going to be necessary, I became and instant fan of the Closed Rail System.

[@antkn33]

Uhhh nice tabs on your browser😂😂😂😂

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank for the comment.

[@warriorhook]

I bought a thunder and build quality and I’ve never see any company laser or any other with the fast tech support that thunder has now I personally have not had the problems that you say the other machines had with the head chatter but if I was going to try them all I would not go to one company to try them all because I could have my engineering team to make all the others not work as well as mine that’s just my thoughts on that I can do small adjustments any machine and make it mess up but I did enjoy your video and I’m a hobbyist don’t run a business but my thunder rocks if I decide to buy another I will not hesitate to buy thunder it’s a great machine

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

There is this thing men have (EGO) that will have them argue "Chevy vs. Ford" I know I used to sell Chevys as a kid. I never liked Porsche till I purchased one and found the 911 Carrera was one of the best cars I ever owned. Having said that if you were to look at fit and finish one and the head design you will find that Aeon uses the same head system that Epilog and Trotec use. The most expensive system on the market. Their is no comparison to the finish. If you went to the Experience like I did, we could compare together. Also if you went to the Experience and used your own Lightburn files you would see a fairness to the system you would be impressed with. Looks like from your picture you served our Country.. Thank you for your service. Cheers Bro.

[@mymagicsigns]

I still think that you only need a Thunder or an Aeon or anything with this obscene price tag if you are in high production and you really need the speed, and even then it's not really reasonable for me to buy one of these, when for the same price I can get 4-5 Machines with the same area and power as these, granted not with all the bells and whistles, but I never use the bells, and barely use the whistles, like taking the belt off in 4 secons, in 20 years, the only thing I had to do to my belts, was tighten them, and so on! My 100W 1300mm x 900mm costed me $2600 with a rotary and chiller included!

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Thank you for the comment, based on my experience the bells and whistles as you call them can make a difference for the new user. I have a Facebook Group called Laser Freedom, by all means come and discuss this there. The customer support is just one of those "big differences" many people come to this with no knowledge and need help, they can not get that from the generic machines that are offered on say Amazon and Alibaba for the most part.

[@thomasnadeau5076]

Well sir I did not go to the Aeon laser facility. I however have committed to buying a Boss 1416. My reasoning is they have the 1416 with free stand and free upgrade to 70W and free rotary attachment right around the same price of the Mira 5 with no stand and less watts on the laser. No stand. We shall see whether I made the right decision.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I have another video that I am going to do that is really a great suggestion for people. Like the Engineer at Aeon said, get the right tool for the JOB! The one you buy is the RIGHT TOOL...

[@thomasnadeau5076]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser Thank you for the quick reply. I am a little nervous as i struggled with my diode laser and having no experience with co2

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

@@thomasnadeau5076 I totally understand, As I said in the video I am not sponsored, nor have I pulled the trigger to buy one yet. I am going to but I have one more thing I want to do for the people that follow me. It will take about 30 days to pull it off, but it will be well worth it. What amazes me is that so few people ever call the sales people at these companies, and rely solely on websites and KZbins. I encourage everyone to call and see what the companies say. Maybe ask for a ZOOM CONFRENCE!

[@thomasnadeau5076]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser I will say I was not impressed with the sales person I have. I would not make him lose his commission .

[@thomasnadeau5076]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser one other thing I Steered clear of was clicklease and Geneva Capitol financing. I am not a business. I am in now way knocking them just suggesting read very carefully the terms.

[@Todd-W]

although I tend to agree with your consensus about which might be best, the belts, enclosed vs not enclosed, etc. there is no actual comparison of machines in this video as the title eludes to. You simply went right to AEON is the best.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Todd, there is a direct comparison video between the Aeon Mira Vs. the Thunder Nova in my channel It is hard to get all the information into just one video. If you have any direct questions you want to ask me about please write to me at [e-mail]. It is only with comments like these that I can improve my videos and give the subscribers what they would like to know. I would also be happy to jump on a phone call with any laser hobbyist to share my opinions. Thank you for the comment.

[@silver7788]

I mean yeah sure, Aeon might be best with the given budget but comparing it to OMtech? That's apples to oranges... I can get OM with power and size comparable to Nova 10 and it will cost me 1/3 of what Nova 10 costs. Like da, if I pay 3x more for the (almost) same size, laser power and controller I sure do hope they put better lighting, rail system and whatnot... Boss is also much cheaper, (Thunder couldnt find the price right away but I guess it also would be cheaper). So that amazing experience centre to keep it with the car analogy is comparing the Ford Focus to Mercedes A-class. Somehow they missed lasers from more expensive companies like Trotect or Epilogue. Well, maybe they didn't want to show how Porshe and Lexus stacks up.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Silver7788 I only want you to get the best tool for the JOB... that is all I wanted for myself. I reached out to all the LASER Companies for info about their machines. One Brand based in Southern Ca. where I could have gone easily to see their machines did not even respond. There is an old expression you get what you pay for. I would go to Aeon and see "The Experience" look at the machines side by side and compare fit and finish. I did! Yes price is an issue but if your buying for business down time could ruin you. If you would like to talk to me more in depth about this by all means e mail me @ [e-mail] I will only give you some thing I looked into. Questions for all the companies even Aeon.

[@cattleguardforms]

Boss' is actually is 3X faster RASTER engraving due to their servo motors. Cutting speed is a function of available power.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Not one to argue.. but according to what I have heard that is not so much true. Faster servo motors could increase speed but if the laser source is matched in power what does it really matter. As an example so people know , what speed does a Boss 100 watt with cut motors cut quarter inch plywood. Is tjat anywhere beyond the limit where servo motors would even come into play. Dont think so. Do servo motor really matter for cutting... ? Come into Laser Freedom in Facebook and lets see what the crowd has to say.

[@cattleguardforms]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser Servos do matter, sir. Respectfully if you're making the claim that servos are not faster than steppers than you should be able to back your own claim vs. leaning on what the 'crowd has to say' on FB. :) I have a servo driven laser and a CNC - and if you own one you'll see that at least 80% of most laser jobs is engraving. You only talk about cutting. But again RASTER ENGRAVING is where having high speed acceleration and motion (engraving or traversing from point to point) truly saves on production time - especially for larger detailed jobs. Epilog and Trotec -are the 'Mercedez' of lasers and I've owned a Trotec - their machines are outfitted with closed loop DC servo motors for good reason. One of the main servo benefits is for accurate, high speed raster - not cutting. Not to mention the control of continuous positional feedback and position accuracy. In all fairness there's several critical servo benefits being overlooked.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I am not one to kick comments, but it appears you “edited” your comment omitting some of the reasons that I commented as I did. Edited comments need different responses. Looking at your website it says you are located in Orlando , right up the road from Boss and the Aeon Experience, I would suggest that if you are in the market for a laser take a typical Lightburn engraving file to AEON and have them to run it. They have a Boss there for people to compare, fit and finish and actual testing. All I want is for people to get the right tool for the job. There are so many factors that go into a good engraving or cut. Smoke evacuation could in fact be more important than speed, a dirty engrave is just that. I suggest you look at the Aeon SuperNova both a glass and RF CO2 Tubes in one machine. With an iris controlled smoke removal system unlike anything I know of in any other laser in this class. I am coming to the ISA in Orlando in April, let’s have a beer, I will buy. Mike want to check that 3X faster come up with a max speed number and come into Laser Freedom and show me one of your engraves. Thank you for the additional comment.

[@pacoperkid13]

Sir, your flag behind you on the wall after the 4 minute mark is displayed backwards.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I pulled the flag down... thank you for the comment.

[@rapter3948]

And now the stars r on the bottom

[@purplepenguina.k.a.burlyma6845]

So the whole American standard wiring is likely the idea of awg standards being used inside lazers. So like when an electrician wires a house there is minimum gauge required depending on the amperage going through it. I know that those requirements are different elsewhere. For instance I know that aeon does that with the Mira where they rip out all the wires and upgrade them to at least meet the standards here. So if that is indeed what they mean when they say American standard wiring then I definitely wouldnt consider it a puff up or whatever the rep told you.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Agree in principle... But There is NO REQUIREMENT that the wiring for the MIRA be replaced as I know it. In a Facebook discussion I learned that all lasers are submitted to the FDA for approval and can not be imported without approval. I love the MIRA 7 that I just bough and when I compared fit and finish of this machine to others this was not only a Very Nice machine the controls were first rate. While in my shop, I got the machine to engrave on cardboard. That is being featured in my next video. My view is DO NOT TRUST ME... go to the Aeon Experience and see for yourself. Very Glad I went, I ended up with the right machine.

[@tresgarcia1725]

So what did you buy???!!!❤❤❤

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Here is my situation. I have been very busy lately and would like to go back to Florida and make a selection of the exact model that would be best for me. I currently have 5 Diode lasers in the review process ready for KZbin productions so it is not as if I am without a laser. Another company has also come on the horizon and I am considering going to see them, but that is not firm, I am still researching them.

[@skineedog]

It's would be great if someone from AEON would respond to my attempts to contact them.....

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Did they ever get in TOUCH... I advised them of this comment the moment that I saw it.

[@PINEappleandwhatknots]

The rail system is called a gantry. The American Standard Wiring is referring to US 110v plugs. Not European/Asian 220v plugs.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

As this was made for people just looking to buy a laser, "rail system" seemed more descriptive than gantry either way the message was conveyed, as you have so clearly proven by point this out. As for the America Standard wiring that was a term used by another company and unless you represent that company it's still up in the air as to what they were trying to say. All the machines I saw in this class plugged into a 110 power source and are approved by the FDA on import so of course they are all 110. Would love to have you come over to Laser Freedom on Facebook and discuss these things in more detail. There are so many things that are left "open" after watching a KZbin.

[@RichardNBBarrett]

I am closely looking at Aeon and Thunder. The upsides I am seeing on Aeon are the space-saving of the integrated components and the compactness of the overall unit. The downsides I am seeing are Z height and problems people have reported using the autofocus, particularly that it can get hung up on what you're cutting. Changing out the lens also seems involved on the Aeon and the controller Z height control looks non-intuitive compared the version Thunder employs. I've also seen people say the fill level indicator for water level is not readable on the Aeon. Aeon US Team rewiring the units is neither here nor there for me, it's kind of worrying machines have to get rewired, and it causes me to ask - if the manufacturer is installing such low wire gauge, what else are they skimping out on, after all once the electricity goes through the transformers onboard, the output from it will carry the same current to the final components regardless of the country right, why is the rewiring done? I did have a long call with one person from Aeon and they did have all the time in the world to talk to me and were highly engaging, I got a very positive feeling from the call. I also noted - you can buy Aeon direct on Ali Baba, you probably just won't get the same support. Direct from China also offers an 80w model on the Mira 7, I wish they sold that upgrade US side. Thunder - their z-height seems way better, the way you do tumblers seems more straightforward. Their autofocusing system seems very workable and changing lenses also seems very easy on the Thunder. At the end of the day for me - it's a toss-up between compactness and dealing with the pain of Aeon's downsides. Thunders are not at all compact and seem clunky with their external chillers and overall shape, the pluses being, it's easy to switch out a dead external chiller. Thunder was still very nice on the phone but somehow I did get a sense of marginally less engagement. Speed on both units seems comparable from what I can tell. I may just head down to Aeon like yourself and verify these things firsthand. Very eager to get your view on these specific things on the Aeon and to see where you land on your purchase.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Rich... I have been busy and trying to reconfigure part of my shop, I have a few more "Diode lasers" to review. Also I have this looming travel opportunity to go back to Florida and if I do, I want to go back to Aeon and really talk to the guys I met, regarding the best machine for me to start with. The Mira 7 is sort of what would fit best in the shop and all I would really need, but THE NOVA, OMG it is a beast. I have another person (brother in law) who wants to maybe use the machine also. We are still taking about that. I highly recommend you to go the "Aeon Experience." If you are new to lasers it will open your eyes to things beyond your ability to understand now. Z DEPTH , is of course a consideration but if you really compare like machine size Aeon's is very similar to Thunder. If you want to call me, just e mail me and we will arrange it. CHEERS , it is great to see that I am not the only one going through this same process.

[@RichardNBBarrett]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser Thanks for the reply. I attended the sales webinar yesterday and got to listen to what the CEO had to say. I think they have an interesting story and an exciting vision, but I am very cautious that they are expanding as we are about to go into a recession, particularly in a market driven by craft products. I got my quote for a Mira 7, the price went from $7495 to just over 9k and I am on the East coast. Thunder laser lists their Nova 24 for $7400, their quote was for $7400 all in. I really like the integrated components on the Mira 7, but then saw a video of someone just installing external components as it couldn't keep up production. With all I have said I am still leaning towards Thunder and possibly a bigger model.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

@@RichardNBBarrett One of the things I have found looking at this "industry" is that upgrades and changes happen. Some of the information out there is OLD and not really applicable like addition of things like air compressors and coolers, and this is "INDUSTRY WIDE." The amount of PUFFING (lying) in advertisements and sales presentation is just crazy. I confronted one manufacture with one of their claims and they agreed something they said was not "TRUE" I invited them to pull down the VIDEO, but its still up. PRICE IS PRICE and for some people the "price" not "quality" is the driving factor, I totally get that. Marketing plays a big role, just ask Glow Forge! But the more that I learn the more that "Customer Service Assistance" is going to be important. I have a feeling that Aeon has as many people in customer service as many other firms have in their whole staff that drop shifts. I am not BUYING for business, but if I were there is one thing that Aeon has planned and is promoting to their owners, with larger machinery in their warehouse, like the one that cuts out metal. If you did one big sign order in "Metal" it could pay for the whole laser. Price comes with benefits. Just yesterday I had a discussion with a friend back east and I may be traveling, if I do I am going to do all I can to go visit AEON again. NOT the CEO, the guys in customer service, see when I went to the experience I took a box of donuts and made some friends. Friends with knowledge that want to share with me. CHEERS BRO... and thank you for the thoughtful comments, lots of people are reading this and more critical thinking is useful to everyone.

[@RichardNBBarrett]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser Appreciate that, still going to ask if you would compare your thoughts Mira 7 to a Thunder Nova 24. I am not asking you to bash either model but if you went through the machine and how it operates from the top down and price, what do you think, I think that would make some good healthy content.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

​@@RichardNBBarrett we could be beer drinking buddies, but I am sorta watching my Belly! Enough humor. The Aeon Experience when I went, I focused on 100 watt lasers, that was what I was most interested in. If I was going to compare the smaller machines I would look at the Epilog new addition. From the beginning research I have done on the smaller lasers, The Epilog (considered by most the higher end) is very much like the Mira. Both have the closed rail system, I like that system better. It is my understanding all Thunder Lasers have the open rail system, like my cheaper Diode lasers. As I mentioned in the video someone slammed the Closed Rail System as it was a possible service nightmare. At "The Experience I addressed that and they laughed, and took it apart and put it back together in a matter of less than 5 minutes. I have been in Sales for years that is called planting doubt... well in person, that was removed. Reality is I never considered that Trotec, Epilog and Aeon all have the closed rail system. So are you getting the most expensive tech at a discount? I just launched a new Facebook Group called "Laser Freedom" I would welcome you to join and ask these questions of more people. This is not a Manufacture Controlled group.

[@antkn33]

Sorry but this sounds like an infomercial for Aeon.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I ended up buying a Mira 7 Pro, because I was so impressed with the machines. I love my laser and if you watch more of my content you will see I put it to use all the time. My opinion they are a machine in a league of their own. You can go to "The Experience" just like I did and do the comparison. I bet you leave with the same impression. Cheers and thanks for the comment.

[@knightnight42069]

"he designed the whole building himself" with a laser..

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Of course Lek did not design the building with a laser, if I said that I did not mean it that way. It really is a cool facility and I am going back soon for another visit.. stay tuned. Cheers and thank for the comment.

[@knightnight42069]

@@GeorgeKennerLaser I was just being funny

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

@@knightnight42069 So was I... you got to so see what they have done. They are clearly the leaders in this industry . The new Redline with the toolless mirror and lens removal will be copied by others. But they are the leaders and I have a feeling will be for some time to come. (Go see "The Experience/ Showroom" for yourself you will be so happy to see the people that make this all possible.

[@littletimmy5940]

Aeon 100 watt - $12,000 Boss 100 watt - $9000 OMTech 100 watt - $5500 Its an important part of buying a laser, cost.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I agree cost can be an issue but if you are buying for a business, things like ' engraving speed" and Maintenace are "BIG ISSUES" I recently did a Video on the Aeon NOVA series without insulting anyone else's machine. This industry is full of "blind devotion" so to give others who watch my videos a good basis I suggested some questions. Even in the last year one of the companies who sang the virtues of a "top rail machine" introduced a belt rail machine, WHY? And they call it their best machine. I only want everyone to get the best machine for the job. The best machine for the job is not always the cheapest. What is the old saying? You Get What You Pay For!

[@user-zq6pj5jo8j]

Ok, So you buy the $5500 laser and get it home and it doesn't work. Now what? Warranty? So after that year of warranty and it breaks, Now what? No warranty, No support and good luck finding parts for it. They don't sell them anywhere. Trust me i looked, Ebay, Amazon, Googled the part numbers and came up with nothing. So your $5500 is now gone and you have nothing to show for it. I have pictures and emails to prove it of the $5500 laser's quality and issues.

[@johnmatthews8639]

I expected it to be interesting, but it wasn't

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Sorry I seemed to have missed the point for you. If you are serious about CO2 lasers, I encourage you to go to the Aeon Experience. Cheers

[@richardlay1492]

Wtf I just watched

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Glad you liked the video.. It is very rare for any company to have the competitors machine so you can even visually compare them for "fit and finish" let alone do side by side comparisons. Cheers and thanks for the comment.

[@tracyacord]

No offense, you ramble on way too long and took away view-ability

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

I am not upset you see things that way, the entire point was that it this "facility is available" for people to go see themself. I think everyone should do their due diligence, I did, and so should you.

[@BGIS2000]

Honestly I thought its a really good review, but most of time yoi talk about Aeon and customer service. I think best review all those machines will do a job at same time result is the best review. I have watched other lasers job they also do great laser cutting. I also noticed Aeon expensive. My fav one is Trontec thry are great for making webinars and open with their previois or new clients as well.

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

You are correct Emily was a partner but took a position as an Ambassador, I have met her and she is highly respected by all the Aeon Partners. The woman knows her lasers and is a very profitable creator,. I would call he a business roll model in the industry. Like all things expensive is relative, you almost have to do side by side comparisons of the machines to really gauge quality and benifits vs. cost. That is why I love what Aeon did making it possible to see all the lazers in one place. TROTEC is very nice looking laser but because of cost, it was not one I was interested in testing. It is also my understanding they will not run on Lightburn the software that I use. THANK YOU VERY MUCH for commenting. I do not pull comments it is not fair as people try and find the right tool for the job. CHEERS

[@TheRedbankGuy]

Great vid thx! I would like to hear more about to Aeon experience. I’ll to email you. It will come from jaw20…..

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Cool... I respond to all my e mail. I hope you get the chance to go to "The Experience"...

[@laurajames8612]

Well, I thought this would be so exciting to watch

[@GeorgeKennerLaser]

Hope I did not disappoint you.