Please disregard "Archer Garrison or Rally" gear, I made an error there. The rest of the info is true and no errors.
@omega78242 ай бұрын
so is 2-2-2 is better ? what if you use 2 kvk ,2 leadership ,2 non-set chest and glove??
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
@@omega7824 for rally and garrison, i need to revisit my calculation to validate. the info in the video is probably is still true but I didnt wanna claim invalid slight error in calculation as true. For open field, 2 kvk, 3 leadership, 1 non set chest is still going to be the best.
@macvpr63982 ай бұрын
Great video mate 👌😁
@riccocheng41662 ай бұрын
Max 2 2 2 for archer is 22.5atk 43.3def and 31.2 Hp
@riccocheng41662 ай бұрын
@@omega7824should be 2 kvk 2 leader and 2 archer
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Because this is brand new channel, timestamps doesn't work for now. Here you go: 0:00 Intro 1:24 Infantry 6:23 Cavalry 7:21 Archer 11:09 Siege 14:00 Outro 14:29 Bloopers
@eray198315 күн бұрын
Great job bro! I did the similar math some time ago and you know what, I have exactly the same outcome :) Keep going bro!
@davidw.51852 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I agree with your calculations for field fighting. As far as Seige goes; I have Gonzalo maxed and Margaret at 5535. I also have Barbar and Gaja at 5511. Margaret gives Gonzalo the ability to escape in order to preserve your trade ratios. If you don't care about getting away and want maximum damage, use Gaja with Gonzalo. My siege march is my highest yielding march. Better than my two expertised infantry and two Cavs and one Archer. Seige is very useful
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
hype is real. cant wait to make mine as well!
@julians92972 ай бұрын
I’m an archer player and agree with the ultimate set you listed. As you get more KVK prints for the weapon and helm and move towards level 5 the difference becomes even more pronounced.
@TJMiton2 ай бұрын
one of the biggest things for garrison is that you've always got hera secondary and some amount of mixed troops so the leadership gear being stats for all troops is really nice too
@ajmanmc2 ай бұрын
i like the science you have put behind your theory, keep the content coming!!
@xDread2 ай бұрын
Really love this style of video comparing equipment sets mathematically 🔥🔥 Wondering if you can go 1 step deeper and do a BIS list for equipment on each of the different meta marches for field, garrison, and rally? Or breakpoints in Health and Defense from commander skills + armaments where one set becomes superior to another? Commander skills bring different amounts of defense and health, which changes the calculation. For example, Gorgo + Hera's skills bring +60% Health and only 15% Defense, while LC + Alex brings +0% Health and +70% Defense from skills + museum. So an equipment set that sacrifices total tank stats to have a higher health : defense ratio, like Glorious legs + boots, will be much better on a LC + Alex march than a Gorgo + Hera garrison. Love the channel!
@dukepr2 ай бұрын
Sad thing is so hard to make changes when you already have your sets. Game punishes you for destroying legend equip.
@ulassenguler6952 ай бұрын
The best equipment guide here!
@valteraraujo86802 ай бұрын
Great vid, nice update on equipment options
@alexd89502 ай бұрын
Great vid! Love getting into the math of all of it. I would say that for your archer gear, you could get a bit better tankiness using Spartan gaming's build of Pride of Khan (Yes, I know it is meant to be a cav piece, it has 8% archer health tho!), DB plate and boots, Hydra's w/ gauntlets and chausses of the glorious goddess. If my math is mathing, you should get 3% attack, 41.5% defense and 27% health, wherein your recommended set for archer open field would net 15% attack, 34% defense and 26% health. One can argue small differences, but isn't the point of min-maxing to get every single point of the best stat we can? With the chase stats being health and then defense, that might work a bit better for some people. Someone please feel free to fact check me here if I happen to be missing something! Thanks and keep up the great work!
@Mounir2000-l8x2 ай бұрын
Great vid ❤ can you also make similaires one for araments?
@ahmedalotaibi68742 ай бұрын
Good stuff we need same math for budget equipment 👀
@RAHEEM_ENT2 ай бұрын
I love the bloopers had me dying fam thank you for this. 😂
@Hangfire12 ай бұрын
fairly solid work. naturally armaments & iconics will skew the results but tankiness is always appreciated.
@SpartanGamingMobile2 ай бұрын
Let's gooo!
@MichaelRubio-lt9zg19 күн бұрын
Great content! Maybe a step further or a followup, which is better, the crit iconic set boots and pants or the the health boots and pants that is only iconic and NOT crit. Thanks!
@BilegtROK19 күн бұрын
Thanks man! I already made a video on the topic.
@dendenmushi54582 ай бұрын
Thank youuuuu. Complete equipment guide
@mightyzhol56702 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information, very informative.
@chuyh30512 ай бұрын
Great video and info!
@Rover200Power2 ай бұрын
10:00 Britain performs better than Ottoman with the 222 archer set, or is the % for Ottoman based on their score with the full archer set?
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Its britian vs britian on 6 set vs 3 leadership gear. If i compare brit vs otto, britian has -2.9% less trade potential and -4.7% less tanky with 3 leadership gear.
@otalgebra44362 ай бұрын
The "best" set you recommend is the best in a vaccum. Best in slot players will have 12+% health and 15% health in skins/armaments. In certain scenarios the orginal BIS inf set is still the best.
@Киндред-й3х2 ай бұрын
the variant of the set for archers: kvk helmet, kvk weapon, bib and boots from the dragon's breath set, pants and gloves from the leadership set, it seems to me this is a good option, and there is also an option: kvk helmet and weapons, bib, gloves, pants, boots from the dragon's breath set, this option is also good
@TheDarkinBow-pj6xj2 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see you back
@165hzjkusenter72 ай бұрын
Yeah, but I run Wu/Liu for infantry march, and most of my troops are cavalry. So I need to boost some walking speed, or I’ll only be able to fight with cavalry and archers. Losing 3% tankiness and taking 5% worse trades is still better than not being able to fight at all, and the other option is way cheaper, so I can focus on awakening and crit gear.
@165hzjkusenter72 ай бұрын
talking about cavs and Archers I'm with you, very nice video
@raimundojunior31382 ай бұрын
Very good content mate
@Hi-li9ju2 ай бұрын
can you link your sheet wo there can see you calculations and test results? I myself would love to look at it a bit my self
@moonlightshadow17762 ай бұрын
Good job 👍 , can you make a video which civilization is the best also the special units ? Thx in advance
@tediberusa20982 ай бұрын
for f2p to low spenders you have to take into consideration how long it will take you to get blueprints needed and not just overall stats for example for archers i decided to go with milkyway and ians choice bec the blueprints just fall into your lap without much effort i only have to chase leadersahip blueprints and kvk blueprints
@j.w.63572 ай бұрын
GOOD vid thanks
@mrcivil20982 ай бұрын
It's not a bad thing to say that you didn't do the calculation. Also, watching 'wick gaming' is not boring. Still, after that guy, I was excited to see a channel that was interested in the mathematics of the game. Even if you do not make the calculations yourself, you can make videos based on the current situation. It's funny that you say it would be boring to explain how I calculated it when your whole body language is just screaming that you're lying.
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Hey man. I am replying to your comment simply to defend my hard work. You are correct on 1 thing. I really debated whether I should include the damage formula explanation or not. But I decided not to but still had doubts. However, the amount of work I put to calculate the results is still true and I made this calculation sheet from scratch. I understand your intention is not malicious and seeking truth, which I respect. I should have said, "I am not gonna explain the formula on this video but I will have separate video in future." Just because I did not want to explain it everytime I make this type of damage formula related video. Just fyi, watch this video me explaining the damage formula and you shall see truth (its old vid and the data is outdated). kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnS9q3h-npeWn6M
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
I see. I shall give credits to Wick gaming in future. I found about this formula from Fleisch's sheet first time. And contacted Speckoh (creator of RoK simulator) to understand it deeper. And I thought the formula was provided by Lilith to public. Never knew Wick calculated the formula himself, not provided by Lilith.
@mrcivil20982 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROK I hope you develop this with good facilities and help many players who cannot access this information easily.
@davorkapetanovic425720 күн бұрын
@@mrcivil2098I read this comment few weeks later, and I agree about ppl should always give credits … for the damage formula, it is funny enough you asked to give credits back to Wick Gaming. The screenshot he is using in this video is the one Wick was using… and literally took it from another Website. He didn’t discover the damage formula in this version, and afaik, he didn’t give him credits either 😂🤣. Wick was straight up using this picture taken from a Website, at a time called everythingRok… so now we are here, we can all give back the credits he deserves to the one who literally wrote it the way it is screenshotted : Hobbsy
@crismandazoc54252 ай бұрын
great video, but nowadays i think for testing need also to consider armaments because you may get so many health in armaments and less attack or vise versa..
@xASAPxGODxx2 ай бұрын
Good stuff i subbed
@Greggington_Gaming2 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@LucyDenali-u7q2 ай бұрын
Would be nice if you could cover Leadership gear also.
@deius14722 ай бұрын
your back on rok lol i missed you bro
@xDread2 ай бұрын
For archer equipment, what are your thoughts on: 2 kvk, archer chest + boots, leader legs + gloves? I didn't see it in your list
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
I added this calculation later on. It was really good viable option as well! It performed right in the middle between the 2 equipment I showcased here. So as compared to 3 leadership gear, you are losing tad bit tankiness but gaining tad bit punching power.
@xDread2 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROK Heya bro cheers! I see that now in the spreadsheet you have linked in the description 🤙 I noticed a small error though regarding the leadership gloves that impacts the tankiness a bit. At Awakening I, leadership gloves give +4 base defense - rather than +4 base attack like other gloves. For an infantry field set, curious how you feel about: KvK helm, Hope Cloak, Infantry shield + boots, Leader legs + gloves And for infantry rally/garrison, curious what you think about: KvK helm + hammer, Hope Cloak, Eternal Night, Leader boots + gloves Basically, is it worth using leadership gloves for the +4 base defense increase, and then using either leader legs or boots to complete the 2/6 set bonus? At awaken II: Eternal Night has 16% defense vs Leadership legs 10.5% health (~1.52 defense : 1 health) Infantry boots have 11.5% defense vs Leadership boots 8% health & 1.5% attack (~1.44 defense : 1 health + attack)
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
@@xDread thank you so much for your correction! as well as suggessions! Very keen eyes. I will adjust accordingly and see what happens.
@loklothekiller2 ай бұрын
if u would include iconic tiers V on all i would love to see that, how that would perform
@dom18002 ай бұрын
Love this video!
@Al-ze6uo2 ай бұрын
Nice video, just wondering what did you used as base stats? War tech, kvk tech, alliance tech, shrine buff and which commander’s stats?🤔 or did you not take into account one (or more) of these?
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Everything except commander stats which includes talent stats as well. Kvk max tech only considered to verify rally and garrison situation. So its civilization base stats, legendary gear iconic base stats, alliance tech, war tech, vip bonus, building bonus, holy sites. I do think that the gear can be different depending on the commander pairs but I just havent looked into it. For example gorgo+constantine garrison (just random example) they may still wanna have the old meta gear instead of the leadership gear.
@Al-ze6uo2 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROK that’s fair, it can indeed change between commanders (between ragnar prime’s +40% def or constantine +40% health)… but overall it’s good video. But what I’m interested are the next videos, where you’ll need to take care of counter damage (200/turn), basic damage (200/turn), normal damage (counter+basic damage combined), active skill damage buff (from 4k to 10k every 7 to 10 turns), all damage and most annoying of all: rage generation buff🤯, I’ve subscribed to see if and how you tackle you’ll have fun with that😉 good luck
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Thanks man! The damage formula actually can represent normal atk dmg and counter atk damage. So this video can represent the solid basics how to say. However, as you say, it doesnt represent commander specific buffs, for example martel or hera counter attack damage boosts, talent tree RNGs such as rage generation etc. I think your comment gave me a very good idea that when I do "Commander Review" videos, I shall include the math calculation and not only suggest pairs but also equipments. 😁 Thanks again man!
@romerise41892 ай бұрын
Nice work
@aasd17892 ай бұрын
The problem with leadership equipment is that he is much harder to get that inf ones which is easily purschased aat llk shop
@ziomag2 ай бұрын
Hi! What about a different combination of 2/2/2?Leadership pants + gloves and db chest + boots?
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
That is actually quite vaible option. I added the set at the bottom if you wanna see it yourself. It is performing slightly better than the 3 leadership combination but losing 1% tankiness as you are sacrificing 10% HP. I would still prefer the 3 leadership combo unless you are playing ZL and Shajar combo which gives +65% HP which equalizes the total Def and HP stat for max performance.
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
I think the set you just mentioned is the best in slot for ZL and shajar actually for some wierd non meta combo for ZL primary and shajar secondary. This is just speculation but sounds quite strong. The other best sets doesnt fulfill this commander comb9 to its fullest.
@ziomag2 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROKThanks! Unlucky i didn't see that comment earlier 😭 I did calculate dmg and tankiness myself, and you are right, 3ls+milky way is the most tanky set (i came up with 230764,1 vs 228335,8 tankiness for non civ). I was using everythingrok calculator for dmg, and it came out to dealing 4 more sevs/turn for getting 2 more sevs/turn for 2/2/2.
@ziomag2 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROKI would be thankful for being able to see excel myself, where i can find it? Nice video btw, might go for 3 ls now
@ziomag2 ай бұрын
and i didn't include crystal tech, once you implement it 3 ls will come out on top, i hope this video will reach more people, so my future 3ls+milky way won't look so weird 😅
@user-vy4kz2lt4b2 ай бұрын
Bro this video is the best equipment information, If I may ask if you can share sprdseed/excel files on your video, if not then it's not a problem, sorry if I have to ask like this
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Its now in the description bro.
@user-vy4kz2lt4b2 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROK thanks bro you are the best!!!
@Duk0022 ай бұрын
thank you bro ☺
@YhwachPrime2 ай бұрын
Great video bro}
@lisu70622 ай бұрын
You may have missed a few factors into the math, still, a very nice video
@johnwickxvii5975Ай бұрын
Infantry and cavalry gear is ok. But in archer i only have 2 option 6 set pure archer but look at the stats of 6 set pure leadership almost better stats than the full 6 archer.
@johnwickxvii5975Ай бұрын
But if you are f2p or low spender choose the most convenient gear like soc gear, chest gear. Inventory gear is optional so choose wisely what's the better stats :)
@amiasmercer2 ай бұрын
welcome back !
@AKHIL-zw2dc2 ай бұрын
very good video
@bellangeloz64242 ай бұрын
Good content
@kenjiyamamoto4232 ай бұрын
nah if your seige you only want is attack not def or health,. you just need to position your self much better, and you dont need to tank, you just need to KS in every clash thats it, also legendary can be awaken,. im not sure if your a player of ROK,
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
just fyi, awakened base stats have been calculated. And you still get counter attack damage from range though.
@nwar19952 ай бұрын
Even when having fun I can't escape Excel 😭
@ragingomen22482 ай бұрын
(Not so) quick maths….anyway good video 😁
@ziomag2 ай бұрын
base stats for non civ archers are wrong, it should be 216 defense and 212 health
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing out! Fixed. Also found other small errors as well!
@kimkong41632 ай бұрын
Math asian eqipment your thumbnail gg😂!
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
😁
@KUR0SAN29942 ай бұрын
this person creates content / subscribe )
@Equanox_242 ай бұрын
are you in 2994?
@Equanox_242 ай бұрын
im pretty sure i rallied you in kvk last week from fire camp
@BilegtROK2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! It was strong rally man!
@Equanox_242 ай бұрын
@@BilegtROK thanks was the 2nd rally i ever did haha hopfully we can have a decent kingsland
@baechu78392 ай бұрын
Strange set for infantry tbh but I like health ha ha.
@GreenTiger562 ай бұрын
so much waste in materials for my infantry equipment 😂 man at this point i’m get rid of my boots and arms in stead of my cloak n internal