Best Fightpad Ever! - BETOP C3 THORN SHADOW

[@CSword514]

I just tested it, this controller works on the PS5 with the brook adapter, there isn't a button to reset in training mode though.

[@RushG]

Ah nice, respect for checking this. Yeah theres no reset shortcut even for me on PC

[@darkblood4078]

Where did you buy it?

[@loganamir]

@@RushG You actually have reset button bro😉

[@RushG]

@@loganamir I haven't tried it, let me test it 👊

[@loganamir]

@@RushG The button ''back'' resets in training mode Rush ma bro.

[@Polomanart]

Got this pad a month ago, its amazing haven't touched my Hori Octa since. Hopefully a bunch of companies catch on and take some cues from the C3.

[@RushG]

Would be amazing to see the magic recreated for modern systems

[@S4NT14G0_GT]

Why do you prefer this pad instead of hori octa? I dont know which pad i should buy

[@RushG]

@@S4NT14G0_GT Hori Octa d pad felt inaccurate, this is the best d pad on any fightpad

[@RalfsBalodis]

​@RushG I agree. Octa has a hevier d pad. I've missed a lot of direction inputs with hori octa. Especially the diagonals. :(

[@manason2776]

Been waiting for a video like this, thanks Rush for the unbelievable content my brotha❤

[@RushG]

👊

[@Abbelboxe]

Man, now I feel bad for just looking at these cards, then shrugged and threw them in the trash. You made them sound like something so cool.

[@RushG]

I may have oversold it 😅

[@loganamir]

My first order was lost by the local delivery company 😔 Soon as I had my refund I ordered another one and it arrived today. This pad reminds me Madcatz a lot and I hope I aint gonna have the D-pad issue I had on Madcatz. The controller feels a lot smaller comparing to Hori.D pad is too soft and yeah I had misinput issues thou but it doesnt take long to get used to.

[@darkblood4078]

Where did you buy it?

[@RushG]

eBay is your best bet. But just be careful regarding delivery costs and seller reviews. Make sure you buy a brand new unit not used Most will be overseas shipping if outside of Asia

[@loganamir]

@@darkblood4078 Bought it from Aliexpress.

[@RushG]

I had some delivery issues given it was an overseas sale but it was more to do with my address they had listed It looks similar to Madcatz but I promise it's nothing like it in terms of performance. Madcatz was one of the worst 6 button pads I used. Awful Dpad

[@darkblood4078]

@@RushG thanks a lot, I'll try to buy one since I don't like the octa. Keep it up with the videos!

[@michailangelo]

Has anyone tried this on PS5 with the MAYFLASH Magic-S Ultimate? Brook adapter is out of stock unfortunately.

[@morales1190]

FYI.... The Brooks converter does work on. PS5!!

[@RushG]

Awesome, appreciate you confirming

[@SuperFlySLB]

Where can u buy it? Also can it work on nentendo switch lite?

[@RushG]

It's becoming much harder to find now as it's an old pad. Id say eBay is the best place but just check seller reviews / where it's being dispatched from. Also check to be sure it's new if you are lucky enough to find any on there

[@420haxx]

Great review dude, I gonna pull the trigger on this one for sure.

[@RushG]

Let me know how you get on

[@evertonribeiro3258]

I from Brazil I liked this joystick . The DPad is perfect Thanks for recommendation.

[@RushG]

Glad it's working well for you

[@LuisFernandez-pz3tx]

It works with the brook on the ps5 i have it

[@RushG]

Nice, had a few people confirm this. Thank you

[@datdude15]

I been wanting to get one of these for a while now im on the madcatz sf4 pads the shape of it is what i love. Does this pad feel similar in your hand?

[@ohdarlin692]

you conviced me to buy this pad. It's still november sell in web stores and I ordered this pad from AliExpress really cheap. Looking forward if it will be comfortable for me as it is for you. Currently I have ps5 pad which is completely unplayable, can't stand it for fighting games. Also I have Xbox one pad, which I really like, but it is rubs my finger a lot due to the cross shape.

[@Thebmanboss]

How has it worked from AliExpress I want to get one but am skeptical of buying from there

[@ohdarlin692]

@@Thebmanboss I already played hundred hours with it and I am more than satisfied. Inputs are great and fast, buttons and D-pad are feeling nice. I think it is really good product, there are a lot of positives reviews. Also, from my experience, I bought from Ali clones of ps4 pad and xbox one pad. They were awful and broke real quick, but not this one. I think there is no difference to buy it from Ali or Amazon, because they are from the same merchant.

[@magnus4001]

Does the Xbox 360/PC mode allow this to be used natively on Xbox 360? Or is that just how they labelled Xinput mode? I haven't been able to find anything online about it, but it'd be cool if it worked out of the box on both the 360 AND PS3, basically making it the gamepad equivalent of the Qanba Q4.

[@XLucifersX]

Hey Rush! dont know fi u remember me .. fellow ken from SFV :D i just saw this video of yours, while loking for a new controller. I actually always belive the Fighting commander is the best controller there is and nothing can top it... but man you surprised me with this. Is it available in Europe to buy?

[@RushG]

Yo Badro, of course I remember you man how's things going? You can get it if in Europe but only place I've found it is via eBay (check the seller reputation first). This pad is really good but the one drawback is the small shoulder buttons. They're both tiny and very close together. Outside of that it's very good, not perfect but next next thing to the Fighting Commander.

[@dazzawesome]

Awesome review! Love fighting games. Street fighters my favorite. Was looking for fight stick. Found this after searching for 6 button controller. Was surprised they had one. Thought it would be best way to game. Always seen the pros using the arcade sticks. Holding remotes feel better competitively. Even if a box doesn't give cramps while moving naturally. I play expert level on pad, so this is perfect!

[@RushG]

It's a real shame they Hori ditched their previous model controller as that pad was almost perfect. The Octa that they made was a huge step backwards. I'm definitely more used to pad over stick so it's nice to know this is a solid option

[@dazzawesome]

@@RushG Sounds good.

[@masculinemindset6509]

I just bought a hori and i noticed that i have to press harder. But it has a feature that i can increase the sensitivity of the dpad so the inputs comes out easy. The hori i have you can map all the buttons

[@RetroGamer532]

Is it the one with the analog L stick also? If it is that’s a great one, the sensitivity settings are already maxed out outta the box though, so if you wanted more you won’t get it. I wanted more sensitivity and found that out. However, after using it for like 3 months it got more sensitive over time from just breaking it in, now it’s perfect and it’s my favorite controller. I havent tried many others but I’m happy with it

[@RushG]

Fighting Commander or Octa? Octa dpad was terrible when I tested it

[@RetroGamer532]

Mine is the octa, I saw your review after I already bought it, but after breaking it in it’s a lot better. I haven’t tried some of the others but I’m happy with it all my moves come out easily and it works natively with ps5, the others might be even better but I’m good with it

[@RushG]

Interesting, appreciate the feedback. I'll perhaps need to revisit it

[@howdydoodydoo3631]

@@RushGI have found that the octa took time to get used to but it is really okay once you do. The thing is is it requires a weirdly hard press at first. People think you can adjust the sensitivity and you can, but that’s only relative. I suggest just making it max sensitivity and then for up, up diag etc make it a couple lower if you are prone to accidental jumps. What finally got me to get good with it is the other day I put a piece of micro fiber cloth on my thumb as it was hot in house. This changed everything. Suddenly i could slide my thumb super super easy while pressing firmly. My octa woes were because if I pressed firmly, my thumb would stick. Thar being said I want to try this pad just because. I almost got a vitrix bfg just to try, glad I didn’t cuz any controller that cost $180 and has no replacement parts is a huge money sink.

[@Kevinterell]

Well guess I may find out in these videos you have so hopefully my answer is in one of them

[@spitfiremanlizerd]

It is at all possible to map every button to a different input? I wanted the 6 basic puttons, plus 2 for EX punches and kicks, and then the last two mapped to parry and drive impact. But It seems the L2 R2 need to be the same.

[@RushG]

From my testing I couldn't do this no. Even though there are ten buttons total only eight are independent. The extra face buttons pair up with the shoulder buttons on the left (they overlap) Hopefully that makes sense

[@voyager2d]

There is wireless version but only for chinese stores Still awesome pad

[@feifonglong4321]

Do you use the ps5 dual sense for tourneys? How is the betop compared to that?

[@HollowRick]

I was just about to buy this pad but not being able to map the triggers on the left side is a deal breaker for me

[@RushG]

For SF I prefer using the right over the left, but SF6 specifically you need all 10 buttons in my opinion. Is a shame 😞

[@InitialDL84]

First time I've heard of this controller, and it looks like a contender I might have to try out. I tried the Hori Octa, and even though I love the clicky buttons, I wasn't a fan of the d-pad as the rigid/sharp edges were demolishing my thumb after using it for about 30 mins. I returned it and got an m30 2.4ghz, and with the Brooks PS5 converter, I was able to get it working. The d-pad on there is a little funky imo and the different sized buttons take some getting use to, button its been my go to lately. Im really considering getting this controller instead! On another note, Retrobit is coming out with a Sega Saturn Pro controller that can supposedly be used on PS5 via Brooks converter as well, I definitely want to try that out.

[@heroe1486]

It's a bummer R2/L2 aren't fully usable, Why not DI and Parry on R1/R2 tho ? To do 3P (or 2P when needed or when you don't need to do 3P anyway) can't you press a combinaison of L/M/P + Heavy on the left shoulder ? That way you still get an easy access to DI/Parry which is useful when done in reaction

[@evertonribeiro3258]

How to use turbo mode ? I would like press a button repeaty

[@RushG]

No idea 😅 Are you a Honda player?

[@evertonribeiro3258]

@@RushG no. It was to another game . Tkx

[@GVbist]

How are the 360 and 720 inputs on this dpad when playing gief? I currently own an 8bitdo M30 wich has an amazing d-pad imo but not so much for doing 360 or 720 inputs..

[@RushG]

I can't comment as I've never played a 360 / 720 character. I'll do an updated review soon and test this out

[@alastraee]

Is it good for fff2 (run 2) in tekken ?

[@CriticalThought004]

Hello Rush! Great video! Were you able to confirm if this works on PS5 with the wingman FGC?? I'm planning to get one to use on PC and PS5 so it important to me. Thanks in advance G

[@RushG]

I've not done it myself but many people have tested it and said it works

[@RushG]

And hello 👋

[@xRemidy]

Which adapter do I need for PS5? There’s many…

[@RushG]

Literally mentioned in the video. Link in video description

[@chrischand5082]

Great video mate..

[@RuTo94]

I just recently got this and the DPAD for Tekken it's hard to use compared to my Hori Commander. There's no stiffness on the Dpad for movement so you'll accidently press another input when using the Dpad. I'm trying to press super super light but still press the wrong input trying to adapt to it i'll give it another week

[@RushG]

I'm currently using this pad on Tekken and for me it feels great. Better than my PS4 pad and my old Hori. IMO the pros regarding this dpad are how you can feel exactly where you are with your inputs and directions. I do agree it's a "lighter" less stiff dpad but I feel very in control. The dpad doesn't change much after use so this may be what it will be like for the long term for you

[@RuTo94]

@@RushG Started getting use to it and wanted to see test out how fast I can wave dash so I switched the Dpad. I don't play Mashima characters but after getting this controller I just might LOL. I'm wave dashing like crazy just by gliding my thumb 😂. I got so accustomed to my Hori Commander but after using the Betop I don't wanna go back to it.

[@RushG]

@@RuTo94 glad to hear this! Comparing the PS4 dpad to the Betop is was really surprised by how much better the Betop dpad is I'll try and get some wave dash practice in, will report back 🫡

[@Habibi96338]

Anyone know anything on the compatibility with the series X? I have the hori octa so if the betop works this is an automatic switch

[@RushG]

I'd look up the Brook Wingman for your Xbox model (link to their website is in the video description). I can't say for sure it will be compatible though. There may be a viewer with this know or may be a case of googling / contacting Brook to be certain

[@Habibi96338]

Thanks man and keep up the work with the guides. This is my first SF and I am currently in diamond 2 star. I have learned many things from this channel !

[@Ceruleancast]

What would you say you prefer in this over the 8bitdo m30? M30 is the main one I'm using right now and I just have 2 main issues with it 1. It feels rather easy to accidentally press diagonal jumps especially when doing fast motions, not sure if this is the same case on other dpads though as well as this one in regards to how sensitive it is to doing a diagonal up input if you're pressing the upper part of the left/right cross on the dpad. 2. when trying to do charge inputs or 4-6 inputs, I often get missinput half circle or quarter circle fireball inputs instead which I assume has to do with the middle part of the dpad pressing those directions when I try to quickly go from one side or another, which again I am not sure how common it is on other pads too.

[@RushG]

The 8bitdo M30 is an amazing pad, pretty sure I reviewed it a while back. In all honesty the biggest selling point of the Betop is the fact the d pad is so accurate and well designed. Betop (like the Hori) also has more buttons, specifically two shoulder buttons on each side. This works amazingly well for SF games IMO. If the 8bitdo is your main pad, only thing that you might benefit from with this pad is the button layout, d pads are similar

[@Ceruleancast]

@@RushG Ah okay, I do wonder if it's less susceptible to accidental diagonal up inputs, like how much do you have to press the upper area of the left/right crosses on the dpad to get them compared to the m30? And also wonder what happens when you press the middle section of the dpad?

[@Ceruleancast]

Or also more specifically how easy is it to slide from one direction to another without pressing that middle section? Cause on the m30 it's practically impossible it feels.

[@RushG]

@@Ceruleancast I rarely get misinputs, actually don't think I ever do on the Betop. If I get a bad input I feel it was me when doing it Not tried pressing the middle of the d pad down. I'll try it when I can tonight and let you know

[@Ceruleancast]

@@RushG yah the diagonal jump missinputs have been really annoying on the m30 for me but dunno how other pads compare, tried the octa and ps4 pads I own for quick comparison and they are not as susceptible to it, feels like I have to go out of my way more to get them compared to on the m30.

[@spitfiremanlizerd]

I just bought a BTP-C3 chinese pad. The D-pad is good, but is a little too floaty so you have to make fairly long / big thumb movements to get every direction. The big issue are the buttons. 6 face buttons too small and close together, you can easily hit the ones on the far right accidentally. The shoulder buttons are also too close together, and without grips ergonomics are bad. Overall, this thing can't replace my Logitech F310. I hate this thing because it has terrible build quality. I've gone though 11 since 2010, but the ergonomics and most of all the D-pad are unmatched. Sometimes you need to break the D-pad in a bit and it can be so smooth it almost feels like cheating... but then soon after it gets too mushy and it's hard to feel directions accurately, stuff like dashing becomes awkward. usually the Bpad collaspes or the R1/R2 breaks off. I mostly play Older games with strict inputs like Super turbo and Third strike and this pad is a nessessity. The 710 has bluetooth issues and the battery pack ruins the ergonomics.

[@Malco40006]

Does it work with nintendo switch?

[@RushG]

Only with a converter, best ones are brook converters

[@utteero]

How's the durability though? I heard that over time it wears out compared to other controllers.

[@RushG]

So far so good, I'll do an updated in a few months once I've had more time on it

[@casinoz8013]

You think the dpad has longevity or will it wear out the same as a hori?

[@RushG]

Not sure yet. So far playing daily it feels the exact same. Very impressive, I will do a long term / 6 month review when the time comes 👍

[@casinoz8013]

Alright Rush, I went down the HitBox rabbit hole since the start of SF6. I bought the SnackBox Micro -- Did not like it. Then i got the Punk Workshop version. (The one tokido used). Forcing myself to play on it the past few months and just hate it tbh. (my dps were really good on it but enjoyment of playing went down). Now here I am coming back to pad and just ordered this one. I can safely say as a Hori Commander enjoyer, fuck hitbox lol. I think Stackbradford switched back to pad before he quit too lol. I know you were considering trying Hitbox and i can safely say it's not worth it haha.@@RushG

[@RushG]

@@casinoz8013 appreciate the feedback Casinoz I tested on a keyboard and it didn't enjoy how the game felt controlling it this way. Much of the fun like you pointed out is had given I'm on pad in the first place I saw Stack went back, I feel he understands how good pad is when it comes to SFV, SF6 too, don't think the advantages made it worth it. This Betop is so good too, only makes the pad experience even better

[@SFU8907]

Man, i am searching this fighting pad for days. Can anybody send me a link where i can buy this pls? My hori fighting commander doesnt work anymore. Pls guys, i need help. I am from germany

[@RushG]

eBay is the only place I know where to buy it from. They will be imports so make sure to check the reputation of the seller before you buy. Best of luck 👊

[@heroe1486]

Aliexpress

[@717BOOM]

Is the controller compatible with Xbox

[@RushG]

It's listed as being Xbox 360 compatible, you may need a converter for more modern Xbox consoles

[@Tevron_]

Betop is a good controller but the base is a bit small. Madcatz Street fighter iv fightpad is still king

[@RushG]

Agree with you regarding size but the Madcatz SF4 pad had one of the worst d pads. Rarely ever get your directions, I ordered 4 different ones and they were all the same 🙈

[@mathasus]

I gave up on classic controls because of misinputing diagonals on my Xbox Series S controller. This controller seems awesome, but dunno if I wanna fork out extra money for a converter...

[@RushG]

Yeah it's a hefty investment, for me playing at home on PC it's perfectly fine. I guess with the converter it allows the use of multiple pads on a PS5 so it's does a lot more than just make this one pad compatible

[@unseenjungle5386]

da da da da da da PAD MAN da da da da da da....

[@RushG]

"Padman" was what was going through my head 😅 I should of sang my own lyrics

[@chrischand5082]

Has any one tried the Dualsense EDGE..supposed to be 1000hz polling rate, 1 ms instead of 4ms... and s better dpad...just what i seen on KZbin videos, ???

[@chenyucheng4708]

10:29 These are in Chinese, and this is indeed a warranty card. 10:43 This is an instruction manual.

[@RushG]

Thank you, a friend of mine pointed this out early on after publishing the video Sorry for my ignorance

[@chenyucheng4708]

Your video is great, I just pointed out a small error.@@RushG

[@filipinomate1862]

Is it good for tekken?

[@RushG]

@@filipinomate1862 id say yes. Dpad felt great for Tekken.

[@filipinomate1862]

@@RushG thank you, I am picking between 8bitdo pro 2 or BETOP, WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND?

[@mrlyles2002able]

The only wrong with this pad is age. This pad truly surprised me. This cheap $25 pad outclassed all those high dollar pads. It just needs an update to current consoles.

[@RushG]

💯

[@mikeandroid3512]

Works on ps4 too?

[@RushG]

You would need a converter to get it work on PS4, I advise using the Brook ones

[@thi-ghisleri5260]

Is there a wireless version??

[@RushG]

I don't think so no

[@MrShagification]

As an old Hori FC user, I've been looking for a replacement, but the Octa looks like trash, so maybe I'll try this one out.

[@RushG]

I feel you'll like this pad. Much better than the Octa, no competition

[@symshi]

I hate this controller as much as the hori fighting commander, both suck at holding buttons down and giving proper tactile feedback, both gave me false tactile feedbacks when it doesn't register anything, maybe it's good for fighting games if your the kind to press hard on your buttons but not if you like to save your energy and only press until you feel you pressed the button

[@RushG]

I get what you mean. I think much like you said they are built with the purpose in mind if just being used for fighting games. They are cheap and do the job well if you're whacking the buttons. If you're after a quality controller with quality of life features. This isn't the pad

[@BCAJ-FGC]

Is this still unconfirmed for the ps5 or has anyone tested it since ?

[@RushG]

I feel I remember somebody saying they used a Brook converter and it worked with PS5. I haven't done this myself so can't confirm this