Best HFY Reddit Stories: Atrocity

[@cantharelluscibarius2244]

"sorry but i'm not just gonna sit around and watch the rise of space stalin while i got a perfetly good glock in my hand. Jackass."

[@krel7160]

"There will be no space stalins, and no galactic adolphs in my christian mineworld server!"

[@aaronholmes-black6621]

I dig it. Hfy where humanity takes action against itself are usually interesting.

[@caydencat5823]

Finally

[@SymbioteMullet]

All it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing. These good men did _something_

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

Often times those evil men and women think they are the good guys. Simply out protecting the faithful or the innocent from perversion or outside influences

[@Chokah]

@@sanguiniusonvacation1803 Ah yes, Old style McCarthyism at it's finest.

[@mikeharris6429]

They “good” men you’re talking about are traitors to the human race.

[@DepressedCrow]

​@@sanguiniusonvacation1803 in the words of everyone's favorite psychopath "Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story."

[@adamglover6948]

@@sanguiniusonvacation1803 Part of me wants to agree with that, but I don't believe people willing to sell other people's lives for their own profit believe they're the good guys.

[@DiceWarwick]

those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[@sparky-om4xz]

The oath, "to protect from all enemies, foreign and domestic". It is nice to see a story based on this. Good job.

[@morgankuikka4940]

The oath never expires, the oath is to the constitution above all else, i can see a similar oath if we make it to galactic civ

[@Steller_Drifter]

Well Done! Thanks for narrating this, it's an honor.

[@obsidian00]

If we can’t keep our own house in order…

[@guardianangel7589]

Sometimes it's not a bad idea to be the only good guy.

[@TNASTY6688846993]

Their rifles only fired rounds at the speed of sound? Considering an AR spits rounds at almost mach 3 that's pretty slow. Standard 9mm is just above the speed of sound, for reference.

[@groofromtheup5719]

I was picturing st least mach 5

[@cheezeguyLOZ]

Doesn't need to be any faster for a closed chamber with all targets having no armor. My guess is they can change the power

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@cheezeguyLOZ yes it does. These were hardened non expanding bullets. You need drastically more velocity to have a lethal Kinetic Energy dump, otherwise the shot is only the equivalent of being stabbed with a nitting needle.

[@johnbennett9504]

@@groofromtheup5719 The rounds are stated to be tungsten, wouldn't the extra mass provide the over all kinetic energy requirement?

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@johnbennett9504 not even slightly, as the bullet would not stop inside the body. If the bullet passes through then you look at the input vs the output velocity to determine the energy dump. Slow small heavy and non-expanding bullets just go through the target

[@orlandobritt1460]

Well the janitor going to be pissed

[@michaelfoster795]

Hey I wasn't expecting I'd be laughing at this story till I read your comment that poor poor janitor going to be working late tonight

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

the eternal dream that the praetorians of empires would be a safe guard agenst despotism , futile yet such a beautiful dream of hard and soft power merged perfectly

[@unscwarsaw1497]

Damocles protocol - activated

[@themarlboromandalorian]

There are many hills upon which we would proudly die, and die upon them we must, lest we be dragged below them to be executed for our apathy.

[@mechadrake]

When space hitler does not know about antihitler protocol

[@GuardianTactician]

Genocide is bad, mmk?

[@slimeinabox]

_SPACE HITLER_

[@Sanetless]

Satisfying

[@skepticalmagos_101]

im getting Bablyon 5 vibes here......😂

[@bomerdoomer69420]

Is it a hfy story?

[@gearsfan6669]

@@bomerdoomer69420 no it's an amazing Sci Fi TV series from the 90s, it's possibly getting a reboot soon. it was actually pitched to the people that own Star Trek before DS9 came out and is theorized that it's where the idea for DS9 came from, it's on Tubi if you choose to watch it

[@gearsfan6669]

specifically when Garibaldi took over his wife's employers, still one of the best scenes after "There is only one man to destroy a Minbari cruiser, he is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives be somewhere else"

[@Steller_Drifter]

You're not wrong. It inspired the name of the Chief and the other story I am writing.

[@chrisdefresne3235]

@@Steller_Drifter Nice to know that I wasn't going crazy. I kept hearing the name as Garibaldi.

[@sambob8019]

Raise his hand why do we need to cancel the Geneva convention did they break the Geneva convention and if so how much there's already stipulations in there for when someone breaks one of the rules as to what you're allowed to do in response

[@vexile1239]

From what I got the impression of, the xenos did not break any the convention and sought/courted those who were willing to mate with and become partners of the xeno, he was a fanatical puritan, and fanatics, of any political/religious ideology, are problematic, it's probably also why the thread was locked because those terminally online political ideologues got into a massive argument

[@danzydan2479]

Not sure about this one. A few conflicts within myself. Maybe that makes it good. To challenge those ideas. Good content.

[@geoshark12]

Heres the funny thing about passing total war, it includes the other sides , which also includes assassination

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

I mean he didn’t want the Geneva convention... so he didn’t get it

[@nk_3332]

In the US soldiers take an oath to defend against enemies of the Constitution, foreign and domestic. Committing genocide is a pretty clear violation.

[@darrenbraithwaite7401]

That was awesome.

[@peterwalls-qf7ii]

Pure fantasy! Still..its a nice dream! Lets hope it comes to pass someday.

[@bunnybootsink9258]

This was so divisive that the comments got locked over on r/HFY. I love it.

[@rhorybader4054]

Strikes me as odd. The one I wrote didn't get locked, despite similarity.

[@mikek6298]

Hilarious that "genocide is bad, and you should stop the people trying it" is what's considered controversial in that space

[@beardedraven7285]

​@@mikek6298were the three guards who refused what they viewed as an unlawful order trying to commit genocide?

[@mikek6298]

@@beardedraven7285 No. They were aiding and abetting the people who were trying to commit a genocide though, not stopping them.

[@beardedraven7285]

@@mikek6298 how were they aiding them? They refused an order to arrest the elected government. Seems like something many would consider an unlawful order.

[@GenStallion]

Evil men prevail where good men fail to act. Thank goodness good men chose to act.

[@christophercombs7561]

Theres not enough context in the story and both of the major "men" are equally evil to a degree but since theres not enough context we cant know for sure the head security guy went all vigilante and killed people you cant be the judge jury and executioner thats a conflict of interest also he moved directly against the orders he was given which as a "law enforcement officer" is a significant breach of their oaths the porto "dictator" could be completely correct but we dont get any causes as to why he got to that point the main example in the real world is the criminally burdensome punishment the allies placed on the innocent german people during ww1 that led DIRECTLY to the national socialists in Germany gaining power that led directly into ww2

[@groofromtheup5719]

Great Story

[@macpurdy]

For the algorithm and the narrator.

[@technicalfool]

"You voted to abolish the Geneva Convention? ...ALRIGHTY THEN."

[@russellperry9902]

That was great all the way around

[@jonathanknoche6371]

Sic semper tyrannis

[@funster0691]

This was fucking great

[@the_fallen_halo163]

This scenario seriously terrifies me. Not the anti xenophobic stuff, Humanities first all the way. AI terrifies me. That fact that because someone agreed with the politician it locked Suits, locked doors, and took away some generals powers. All that and then allowed the guards to massacre everyone. The AI could’ve stopped their suits like the other 3 guards

[@CowCommando]

That's probably why the head guard ordered them to remove the AI uplink.

[@Subjagator]

It didn't lock the suits because they agreed with the politician. It locked the suits because they refused to follow the order to arrest them. Huge difference. If a soldier refuses to follow order then they are relieved or arrested. There are already rules and procedures in place for that exact kind of thing, the only difference with it being an AI is they can do it in a much more coordinated manner. In real life if a general decided to break the law or side with someone who was breaking the law then they would eventually be removed from any position of power and authority, the AI in this story just did it faster than we ever could do it now.

[@brianbarber5401]

What’s wrong with the AI doing what it was assigned the task of doing? Clearly everyone knew the AI had that kind of authority, as they knew it wasn’t allowed to e execute people.

[@christophercombs7561]

​@@Subjagatorthe problem there is just because the AI or military or what ever entities made an order doesn't mean the order is good or moral and this is the main issue here the AI CANT take a moral stance because of its programming and the head of security is also a clear and present threat in this case the only correct answer is to agree then terminate the link then move against the head of security and arrest the other criminals though persoanlly i think theres not enough context in the story

[@christophercombs7561]

​@@brianbarber5401the AI can only work in the legal framework it was given and just because something is "illegal" doesnt make it morally wrong

[@ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc]

Garibaldi was head of security for Babylon 5 btw.

[@mullerman1970]

Yea that is not going to work though that will get you total war.

[@Fikoj]

sooo, did the senete try to stop xenos from intermigling with humanity, im on there side if so

[@chrisdufresne9359]

The Senate was driven by fear and about to undo ALL of the Geneva Convention. They were so xenophobic that they were talking about nuking human civilians. No support should be given.

[@victortahlor4038]

Thank you for the reading

[@howardchambers9679]

Those manipulator tentacles explains his human wife sleeping soundly 😊 who's a lucky lady?!

[@eleklovatka7666]

If I may point out a few words at the end: - "his human wife" - "he rubbed his manipulator tentacles" - "three children" I leave the rest to your imagination. Have fun. :D

[@thorbcrafter997]

Honestly i dont think that what the guards did was right, dont get me wrong, the secretary and his lot didnt deserve any better but it sounded like at least some of the others only voted for his plans because of his threats and i dont believe that that deserves death, maybe imprisonment and definatly baring them from any pokitikal Position but not death.

[@bomerdoomer69420]

You'd be right,however the amont of paperwork isn't worth it to be honest

[@Nicolas927649]

If you just give them prison time or lost goverment position, then you did't send The Message.

[@anastasiawortham8833]

Being complicit in genocide carries a death sentence at that level of government because it is their job to represent their constituents not cave to vague threats of an ideologically possessed extremist. Their job is to say no in the face of adversity. Cowards are the reason so many atrocities have happened in human history. They permitted the extremists to do as they pleased knowing full well they were committing treason by turning against their constituents. Also treason carries a death sentence on top of voting for genocide.

[@redrum1096]

You're right but also wrong. People who bend the knee to threats don't have a place in political power, it may seem inhumane, but tyrants only exist while people fear them. You can't have the people meant to prevent tyranny be beholden to it.

[@mr.notseen2409]

The longer they live the longer they will be able to do something

[@tonk9385]

animated this but put free bird on it

[@JeremyHolovacs]

Sometimes, AI doesn't destroy humanity...

[@colinsmith1495]

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

[@Vrooto]

so space Austrian painter but the first assassination succeeded?

[@Shyster099]

I get it now, good twist. He took a human name because he married a human

[@JohnTheRaeder-xf5sh]

Phew.... I thought, this was gonna be the second coming of hitler

[@derpionderpson1424]

So let me get this right: If a guy puts a gun to your head and tells you to take the money from the register and give it to him, you are not his accomplice so the police can just shoot you on sight? Maybe make a distinction between those following because they want to and those following because they don't dare not to... sure both deserve to lose their seat but one of those are actually evil while the other is just a hostage, don't do like the Russians did and just gas the room to unalive both...

[@bluedragon5676]

Hostages or beneficiaries ?, there going along with the genocidal maniac would get how many people killed and murdered ?.

[@453tye65e65e65e65]

Just remember the orders they got were to detain all but 1 of them.

[@Verboten_Joey]

I wish the AI had made a distinction between those who voted yes eagerly, and those who did so out of intimidation. There was more than one dissenter, but only one with the courage to express it in the vote. However given the stakes, genocide on human colonies. Little pity is due those cowards, they had a moral responsibility as delegates to uphold human rights. They chose their own survival over millions, followed a maniac. It's a minor tragedy compared to what would have happened if the AI and guards hadn't intervened.

[@derpionderpson1424]

@@bluedragon5676 because he is threatening their life's so yes hostages.

[@derpionderpson1424]

@@453tye65e65e65e65 and if that was all they did I'd have zero issue with the story, there's no issue in detaining the hostages in a hostages situation and figuring out who's an actual hostages and who just pretended afterwards, but there is a problem in just gunning down everyone indiscriminately.

[@dr.disaster6235]

Can we please make this reality?

[@Shythalia]

Damn. Can we do something like this right now?

[@Verboten_Joey]

Is the AI sapient, and have a conscience? Or was it just following it's programming?

[@chrisdufresne9359]

Likely a set of commands inlaid into the AI to ensure the Geneva Convention would stay in play long after the original programmer passed.

[@sanityflyer5294]

That tentecal guy with a human wife definitely caught me off gaurd. And i think you degenerates who understand this know why. (Im always around a degeberate myself bc their kinda my only friend so yeah i ubderstand too.)

[@isaiahpelly8370]

For The Algorithm

[@miked.9364]

The wryter has serious power fantasy issues.

[@joshuafischer684]

Typical leftist really. Physically weak to the point of impotence yet filled with a profound hatred of those with the ability to affect the world. It usually manifests as going on Twitter tirades about how "when I win I'm going to lock all conservatives in gulags and torture them until they agree with me."

[@MIGO949]

too little context, don't really know who to support

[@holycarp1676]

dude a guy was literally space Hitler

[@MIGO949]

@@holycarp1676 Holy Carp

[@brianbarber5401]

So, you think the xenophobic, genocidal lunatic might have been in the right? Glad I’m not your neighbor.

[@ender_slayer3]

Can we get an alternate version?

[@_Sinduss]

This story was absolutely awful. We are told nothing about the events leading up to this situation we do not know if the dropping of the Genevra convention would be against the fluffy love cats or murder crabs who rip childrens limbs off for their own amusement. Then we have an AI saying everyone who did not vote the way we wanted should be arrested. We have no idea of what the ai is and how it fits into the political system if at all. Then the guard captain goes nah I'm just going to kill them all and also execute anyone who does not want to participate in the massacre of a bunch of mostly unarmed noncombat personnel which is really hypocritical on the guard captains part. In political systems you should decentralised power for instance in the us (not America but most people know a bit about American politics because your foreign policy is our foreign policy) you have the presidency, the house, the senate and the supreme court for just the federal government. Legislation will need to pass through multiple branches to get accepted to prevent extreme legislation to pass without executing entire branches of government on a whim.

[@bluedragon5676]

So you are saying the USA system of government is totally broken then and isn't doing what its meant to be doing then right ?, if you disagree with what was wrote then you are ok with the lies that where used to go to war with Iraq that ended up with 1.6 million mostly unarmed noncombat personnel dead at the end.

[@_Sinduss]

@@bluedragon5676 I was not saying the system is perfect just better than killing everyone who disagrees with you like some sort of dictator. Out of interest what is your alternative form of government? "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." C. S. Lewis

[@bluedragon5676]

@@_Sinduss The perfect type of government can never exist in the current climate of corruption within all governments and societies within this world as it stands, BUT if I had a choice I would like to see a honourable meritocrisy that works for the common good of humanity.

[@bluedragon5676]

@@_Sinduss The quote from c s lewis may have worked for his time but for today that is out of whack, there is a high ranking official of the USA that while padding her own bank balance in Taiwan almost instigated world war 3 with China insterad of the USA government stepping in and taking everything from her they allowed her to sell off everything instead, so she is the proverbial robber baron you are mentioning in the quote do you think she is satiated or is she still padding her bank balance ?, also she is one of them same tormentors that are doing things with the approval of her own conscience........when war is begun it is the ones who started it that are least likely to die in it.

[@Verboten_Joey]

Some more context would be helpful. I'm guessing the extreme xenophobia on Earth is due to past wars. If you assume the aliens were the aggressors, and that humanity suffered greatly that would explain the hate. After the war, perhaps some colonies chose to try to reconcile rather than become isolationist. Humans and xenos that both want peace. This would create tension between the Reconciliationists and the Isolationists. The Secretary probably tried to bring them back into Earth's fold, maybe even offered generous terms, but Earth would require that they expel the xenos from any human majority colonies. This would of course be unacceptable to the colonies, as they've likely lived with the xenos for generations by this point, and worked hard to put old grudges and prejudices behind them. It's a critical part of their identity and value system. As for the wisdom of giving an AI veto and judicial authority, no system is perfect. Even the US with one of if not the best constitutions routinely tramples it's citizens rights, such as civil asset forfeiture and qualified immunity. Perhaps the UN, at a time when human rights were widely revered, foresaw this inevitable corruption and instituted the AI as a failsafe. It wouldn't be allowed to order irreversible punishments like execution, in case the AI made a judgment error. It would however act if the assembly egregiously betrayed the principles they were intended to uphold, such as the Geneva Conventions. As long as the assembly's corruption was moderate, the AI would only assist in assembly operations. It's safeguard may have been set centuries prior, so by the time a genocidal maniac could gain popular support, most people have forgotten about the safeguard, assuming it ever was public knowledge.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Hmmm......

[@GreenDude_Gaming]

Hello.,.,.,.,.

[@astk5214]

I really didn't get it

[@miguelangeldelossantos1337]

Future space Hitler tries to gain control of Terran Union, good people kill him and the ones that were helping him like the sick fucking monsters they are so that what happened with Nazi Germany doesn't repeat

[@Voron_Aggrav]

the Politicians went out of line, and the palace guard got orders to detain from the oversight AI, and their commander decided that Purging the rot would be a better option to try and set an example of why you Really shouldn't try to unleash armageddon by silencing the Geneva Convention, Diapers and Politicians need to be replaced often for the same reason,

[@stalwartteakettlepotato9879]

This is a story about traitors and a corrupted AI who commit a really short sighted coup.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@stalwartteakettlepotato9879 no the AI has no part in the crackdown besides ordering the arrest not the execution, this is just Humans doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, and I'm not even convinced Wrong would be applicable for this, Good People doing what needs to be done instead of standing by and following orders

[@stalwartteakettlepotato9879]

@@Voron_Aggrav yes I know the story portraid it that way however humans would never be stupid enough to allow AI to interfer to such an extent. People in power want to stay in power so why would they ever put such an large and dangerous obstacle to thier power. At best AI would be used as advisors. The politicians in this story are legitimate representatives. It is their perogative to change laws. The AI interfered in that process so I consider it corrupted (or more realistically the story isn't well thought though. The story could have easely worked if another human organised and ordered this and not the AI).

[@polishpotatos9282]

Man I wish they would do this today. Less taxes

[@2vectors708]

So much for democracy

[@2vectors708]

@Sygnus Adun the blood of patriots. Also, that was literally extrajudicial assassination of at least a third of your government, at least going by US standards

[@marclytle644]

@@sygnusadun4832 From both tyrants and patriots alike.

[@Verboten_Joey]

I would argue that human rights take priority when they're in conflict with government will, democratic or autocratic. Which is probably why the AI failsafe existed. Democracy is just a means of attempting to make governments accountable to it's citizens, there needs to be some limitations, such as the Geneva Conventions.

[@2vectors708]

@Defiant Joey problem there is that you've denied those people their human rights, and it was the government's will to agree to that vote

[@holycarp1676]

@@2vectors708 As they would deny xenos their rights. Also like half of the agreeing party was scared into submission by that would-be Hitler, of course that leads to the fact the soldiers slaughtered all of the politicians except that one guy so yes that was wrong however i think its still better than have the Nazis two: gas boogaloo.

[@stalwartteakettlepotato9879]

The secretary is a true hero of humanity. Slain by viel traitors and corrupted AI. And what do these traitors expect will happen after this. You don't just make a speach declaring total war without having the military and the wast majority of the population on your side. The only thing that can happen after this coup is that the military declares martial law and a military junta takes power. If it were the admirals and generals who supported this war it will still happen. The only alternative scenario is that the military higher ups concluded that the war can't be won so they allowed the coup to happen. Either way the military is taking power after this.

[@bluedragon5676]

He may have had supporters within the military but only a fool thinks he/she has total control of a military, when the military gets sent to murder its own peoples sure there will be the jobsworths who delight in following those orders but there is a vast majority who will refuse and you either get civil war within the military or a war where the military who sided with the people win outright as they have the backing of the people and as such can replace losses, (the military and the people are one any general who forgets that rule ends up shot by his own soldiers), now as for you declaring a genocidal maniac a hero wow you need to look at yourself to come to terms with that one.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

AI wasn't corrupted, did it's job as it was designed to do, the politicians broke the law, the AI Recorded, analysed and ordered the Arrest of those who broke the law, the Security Commander shut out the AI from the Operation to put his interpretation of the Orders into motion, and Executed the traitorous Politicians,

[@Verboten_Joey]

I hope you're playing a character. The secretary is a traitor to humanity, and without any morality. Why would it ever be justified to kill someone for daring to associate with aliens? Personally I find it bizarre that a human could be attracted to a tentacled alien, but that doesn't mean it should be punished. Who the hell is he to dictate how other humans live? Especially colonies that I assume have independent governments. The willingness to kill for control is one of the darkest human impulses and should be treated like a disease.

[@Dillsfawn]

6:59 The A.I. specifically mentions the Generals observing *disagreed* with the xenophobic senator. Even if they don't agree with the security chief's kill orders, they still won't move to commit the genocide the vote called for.

[@Verboten_Joey]

@@Dillsfawn No, the AI said the generals indicated they stand with Taggart, the genocidal secretary general.

[@dennisfordii9737]

Better be careful narrating stories such as this ......might put you on their list! Personally - I liked it .

[@MrHellknightimp]

Not going to lie, I didn't like it

[@miguelangeldelossantos1337]

You don't like seeing a bunch of fucking Space Nazis getting shot to death? Weird...

[@derpionderpson1424]

Yeah there is a few things like how the people who were threatened into voting for is just treated like they wanted it... the f? But also, the AI being able to determine a violation and order the arrest yet having no issue with allowing the execution of almost the entire counsel? It has some flaws...

[@miguelangeldelossantos1337]

@@derpionderpson1424 If they didn't want it they should have voted against it, it's THAT easy. And that part I agree with that the guards executing everyone targeted will have to be subjected to a trial for disobeying orders. But the story ends before we can know if that's what would happen

[@derpionderpson1424]

@@miguelangeldelossantos1337 Did you not pay attention? He literally threatened their lives, so no it is not just "THAT easy" Also the AI is able to lock the soldiers armor meaning it could at any time have stopped them from executing the counsel, why was it programmed to allow that if we agree that is disobeying orders? Whether you agree with some moral ideal here is irrelevant, the *STORY* have logical issues and internal inconsistencies, we deal with that first and consider morals later.

[@nobodyimportant2470]

@@derpionderpson1424 Note the line about removing the AI uplink from their suits. Once that was disconnected the AI couldn't stop them. It could open the doors to let the senators try to flee but that would have endangered others.

[@ZionistWorldOrder]

nah me no like

[@lr1a704]

You have to stand for something. It is my opinion that it is better to fight and possibly die for something than to live forever never having stood for anything.

[@dkbros1592]

na i didnt like this story

[@Oyrou]

🤨

[@electrochipvoidsoul1219]

Sus.