Best HSS MOD | Collar Delete | Honda HSS1332ATD Track Drive Snowblower | Chute Modification Vlog

[@karenbagby5677]

You are an exceptional teacher, a perfectionist, displaying patience, rational in your logic reasoning and quite explicit in the execution of accomplishing this task. I learned as much regarding your character as about modification of Honda Snowblower. ManyThanks! :)

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@helgaairhead]

Mate - thank you for this mod. Five min after I had my new Honda delivered I performed the collar upgrade - another 45 min later I put it to work.After this season the verdict are no worries at all.Thank you again - you and mr.Honda made my winter easy Best regards from Norway :-)

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@gonerydin4225]

I just bought a new 2020 HSS928. I'm glad to see that Honda has addressed this issue. It still has a collar but it is greatly abbreviated.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Glad to hear that will have to pick up the new chute and do a review on it. Thanks for watching!

[@rogerwhiting9310]

I just bought a brand new 1132... big collar and cant manage wet snow at all. I did the modification myself

[@chrisE815]

@@rogerwhiting9310 did you call Honda to get the manufacture date? Is it possible you were sold old stock?

[@rogerwhiting9310]

@@chrisE815 no. I made the revisions myself.

[@reddpanda7343]

Wonderful! Solved my own snowblower problems, I moved to Fort Worth Texas. Ah, sweet! A small problem is that it gets very hot in summer, about 2,000 degrees frankenstein. Oh well. No plan is perfect. My snowbird friends, I'm thinking of you. Keep warm!

[@ozar62]

Up date on my new 2019 Honda HSS724 ATD I just took delivery of and it did arrive with a very short internal shoot/collar. Not a mod but factory install so Honda made the change to the design which now makes this snow machine far superior over the rest. I gave my dad my electric start Craftsman and went right to my local Honda dealer and put in my order and I told him about the clogging issue and he mentioned the dealer modification free of charge but he said he believes Honda took care of this problem. Sure enough when we took it out of his truck that's the first thing I looked for.

[@nikpalekar5147]

My new 2020 Honda 1332 has a smaller collar than your machine and the dealer said that this should eliminate the clogging issue. I've used the machine for a couple of hours on fairly dry and hard-packed snow so I can't say if that shorter collar is a fix for clogging. I may have to wait till the spring when you get those wet heavy snowfalls in late March and early April with the air temperature around 32 to 34F.

[@rogerwhiting9310]

Made all the difference in the world. In the offseason I am going to spray ceramic coat the entire snow processing part of my 1132. I didnt see you go with an impeller kit...unless I missed it. What are your thoughts there? And why does Honda use such a terrible chute clearing device?

[@pcinc01085]

Did this modification to my Honda this past week and can not believe the difference! I’m literally able to shoot water out of it now! Before removing the lower chute guard my snowblower would clog at the slightest bit of wet snow. Thanks for the tip and video

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Yup people dont believe it until they try it. Some my never experience the joy.

[@pcinc01085]

@@JohnFrancoNH my family went out and saw the snow was really wet and knew I wouldn’t be able to use the snow lower on it and started shoveling before I could get out there( they didn’t know I had one the removal of the lower chute). They were in shock when I dove right into the bank at the street and the machine was able to throw it half way across the front lawn! Thanks again for the video and tip! I’m going to keep this snowblower now!

[@redsuperduty1]

I called my local dealer about this issue on my hss1332 and was informed that I could get a replacement shoot at no charge because of the problems.. It should only be a 20 min job...Great !

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Great...Thanks for watching!

[@chrisE815]

I just took delivery of a 9 28 today. Ambiant temp went from 40 degrees to under 10 degrees in a few hours. My driveway had 4 to 6 inches of standing slush because it melted so quick. I'm happy to report the 9 28 only clogged once when I was not going all out and I let it clog. I believe this issue is mostly resolved with the revised chute collar but I'm sure your design is an improvement and i may take advantage of it in a few years once I'm out of warranty

[@markwegner6100]

Way to go, John! I have one, & will be changing my chute. Thanks for taking the time, & sharing.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@HollomanUFOLanding]

Looking forward to seeing an 'after the mod' video this winter showing how much your work has helped.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I plan on doing just that. Usually i dont get that soggy wet snow until the end of the winter season here in NH. But if conditions are right i plan on videoing it. Thanks for watching!

[@moriadj1]

@@JohnFrancoNH where in NH are you? Want to take the collar off my Honda?

[@todddavidmoore]

@@JohnFrancoNH Curious about the "after mod" results. Did it improve or totally resolve the issue? Also, what about teflon coating the interior of the auger and blades?

[@joemolf3894]

Thanks Franco great video appreciate your meticulous way. I just purchased a beautiful home in NH in a rural area and was very concerned about keeping the driveway clear with the little plow I have. I have a older 724 that worked flawless here on Long Island. Only mistake I made was buy it with wheels. 2 years ago I gave it to my brother replaced it with the 28 inch with tracks only used it once and it failed miserably. I want my 724 back! But now I’ll do your mod on the 28 and on the 32 which I just ordered. I read not sure it’s true Honda addressed the shut issues on 2019 models.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Awesome my friend! Thanks for watching!

[@lifelivinginthedreams9104]

As I mentioned on your first video, my HS1132 doesn't have a collar. I live in NE too so I my auger always collected snow on them. Since I sprayed WD40 on them and inside the shoot after each used, it works better.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Excellent.. Thanks for watching!

[@ozar62]

I apply a small amount of household oil to a rag and wipe the inside if the shoot before I use my machine and haven't had a problem since.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thats a great idea for any make and model snowblower chute. Thanks for watching!

[@Free2choose]

@@JohnFrancoNH Im gonna try "Pam" cooking spray.

[@13KJQ]

Honda USA issued a service bulletin in September 2018 finally acknowledging this problem. They are making available a replacement chute with most of the collar removed. The cost will be covered for all 724, 928, and 1332 units still under warranty, but only as/if requested (i.e. it is NOT a recall). So one does not need to make this modification any more.

[@economyheating]

I just called my dealer and it's true about Honda acknowledgment of chute clogging problem, A letter will be issued to all registered Honda HSS owners. FYI.. as of October 16th 2018.. The new chute was still not available, but will be coming soon.

[@rogerwhiting9310]

I just bought a brand new 1132 and it still has the collared chute... and no mention of the upgrade. Doesnt speak well of the dealer network

[@PopPop017]

Beautiful machine, lots of luck, check out the Japanese videos where these were originally designed for to shoot the snow over 10’ to 15’ banks easy. For that reason Canada buyers got all the good versions first with their deeper snowfalls, finally here in USA, Love the way it slices perfect paths through most snow better than other companies! Happy Snowblowing 🙏

[@bvmtrucker]

I just purchased the latest model year of the HSS928CTD which does not have the same collar assembly. Will your chute work without going thru the removal process.

[@HollomanUFOLanding]

Most snowblowers clog up in wet / slushy snow because of the gap between the 2nd stage impeller and the internal housing. People rectify this by adding a rubber paddle to the impeller end to close the gap. Do you think that this issue was / is the initial source of your clogging problem, that then ended up with snow fully clogging the chute collar? Great video btw.

[@papabits5721]

Absolutely right , rubber paddles mounted to the end of the impeller flutes will stop this for ever and they will help throw snow a lot farther, get out when it’s still cold outside also.

[@byronwoolfrey1039]

I put that impeller kit on my Honda several years ago and it now throws snow 40ft.

[@BronstoneHowlski]

I love all this groovy bass in the background!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks!

[@MegaShawn88]

Hi John, love your videos, as much that I did the Huskvarna snow drift breaker kit on my newly purchased HSS928. Awesome idea, cant wait to try this machine. I live in New Brunswick so I get a lot of snow here. My issue that I have is, the big ass hole in the back where you see the chains of the tracks. Are you at all concern about snow, ice, slush, getting in there? Im going to try to figure out how to close that without making holes. Let me know what you think. Keep up the good work on your videos. Shawn

[@Boom-go5zn]

Have you considered doing the impeller mod? It should help with clogging problems.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I have...stay tuned i may just do it this season to my machine..Thanks for watching!

[@l337pwnage]

+Boom that would fix it. I've resisted doing the impeller mod where I live because I rarely have to deal with slush, and when I do, it's not much. However, I'm looking into making a chute baffle, which is what that collar is, for my snow blower. However, it won't be welded in and will be removable without tools.

[@appleztooranges]

Is the chute kinda bouncy? Mine is on the 928

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Its ok no issues. theres a generous tolerance there

[@appleztooranges]

@@JohnFrancoNH mine bounces lol

[@RonSales]

Get you some flap discs to do it right on cleaning up those welds, when i repaint chutes I use refrigerator epoxy it is slick even grass don't seem to stick to it on my mowing decks making it easier to wash it off. Used it on my trucks driveshaft over a year ago and it still looks new.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@rogerwhiting9310]

Like Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy paint?

[@chrisE815]

I'm picking up a new 928 tracked soon. For height clearance reasons when loading, can i simply remove the three nut/bolts and lay the shute down with the cables still connected?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

yes, but thats going to be hard to handle and get comfortable to grind off. Better to just disassemble the whole chute its not that hard

[@chrisE815]

@@JohnFrancoNH not looking to do the mod yet, just laying it down if it doesn't clear my hatchback opening

[@JohnFrancoNH]

@@chrisE815 then yes absolutely it can lay off to the side id recommend to wrap it in a towel to protect the finish on the ride home

[@JodBronson]

GREAT JOB! *Wow, I read some of the comments here.... AMAZING how they wanted to " Mickey Mouse " this and that. It's doing it right and looks good and last forever.... That was the key here!*

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@freddiehutt5386]

Great video but some one had said honda bulletin in September 2018 finally acknowledging this problem.but I called and they say they don't know anything about it.Has anyone had it changed out?

[@tyuedg8754]

I’m thinking about buying a Honda 1332 snowblower this year. I’m worried about buying one because of this issue. Should I wait a few years so Honda can fix it or just buy a good older one that doesn’t have this problem? Joe Gincastro 401-932-3830

[@markwegner6100]

@@tyuedg8754 Buy one now. I have one, & love it.

[@ABC-nv8ly]

Hey men thank you for showwing this modification because I have the same problem with mine. I also have a question for you. I have the new hss724 snowblower with joystick shoot. The issue that I have is that its very slow rotation of a shoot from left to right and right to left as well as up and down. Its a pretty nown problem with this new Hondas. Do you know a solution or a suggestion of how to make rotation of shoot faster, can motor be adjuster, or replaced? Any suggestions. Thank you.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Anatoli, thanks for checking out the video. I know what you mean about the chute rotation and elevation being not as fast as you may desire. But honestly it does not bother me at all. Having the joystick sure beats rotating it manually like i did on my previous HS1332. The speed on my machine i would say is neither slow nor fast but rather right in the middle. Maybe you just need to put a light coating of white lithium grease on the chute drive ring. Also make sure your cable is routed properly with out any sharp bends, kinks or pinch points. Besides that in order to make it faster you would have to replace the motors with ones of a slightly higher rpm. The Honda chute motors look very similar to window regulator motors that autos use. Of course if you did this the warranty will be void as it will accelerate wear on all the related components. Thanks for watching!

[@ABC-nv8ly]

Thank you John for great suggestions. Maybe I will get used to it being a little bit slower than me and my dad desire.

[@ultratec66]

What did you prep the chute with (Liquid on the pad) before you painted it?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Denatured alcohol.

[@ultratec66]

@@JohnFrancoNH Thanks

[@matefromvirginia4959]

Hi. Very interesting and informative. I'm an Ariens user but found your video interesting. However, I was wondering, when you had the chute off, you could have put a chute liner in to protect it from getting scuffed up. Good and informative.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Yes lining the chute did come to mind. Similar to how Yamaha does their chute. I was thinking of lining just the back of it with a thin sheet of teflon. Im still on the fence whether its worth it or not. If i do plan on doing it, i will make a video out of it. Nothing sticks to it normally even though it does have some paint damage. But that may change as it gets more roughed up from repeated use. Carnuba wax is a good alternative to maintain a slick chute. Thanks for watching!

[@sunshinegirl2879]

Thanks for a well made and informative video.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for watching!

[@purpleharley05]

Would an older chute design bolt on in place of the current one?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

It is very possible but i have never tried...Thanks for watching!

[@bobbybrown614]

Did you get to test it out yet? I'm sure it helped but a video would be cool.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Bobby not yet. I havent got any snow at all here in NH since i did the mod. Looks like it may have to wait until December. I will make a video of how the mod turned out when the conditions are right. The true test would be heavy wet snow. Thanks for watching!

[@HollomanUFOLanding]

Tip - remove the motor housing before taking the chute off - those 3 pesky bolts, especially the rear one, are much easier to remove with cover off. Great video, very helpful, well done and thanks.

[@weldweld5629]

What about the hydrostatic reservoir? Accessible or not? Where?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Hi, the HSS1332ATD does not have a hydro res. like previous models. At first i looked every where and then referred to the service manual. It states it is a sealed unit. No need to check hydro fluid unless you have to rebuild the hydro unit for some reason. Also no more grease zerks for the track drive shafts. Not sure if i like this...Thanks for watching!

[@FWCaptain-kv6sm]

just bought this machine today. 4700 canadian hope it like it?

[@FWCaptain-kv6sm]

Flatus Antiquitous and throw more snow and extract max money on resale than any other machine in the market. Sold!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

LOL

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Great choice!

[@SvenTSchixe]

$4700 Canadian! I just priced this snowblower out up in Cambridge, Ontario for $5040 Canadian, all in out the door price. So Cannondale2019 got a good deal on that machine unless that is before taxes and other fees. You should not have to modify these machines for the price of them though and they should have heated grips standard as well, however I do love the Honda reliability. Cheers fellas

[@algorel4763]

Flatus Antiquitous Smoking way too much weed! Five thousand for a snowblower, WHAT? He could have bought five Ariens, and no modifications. And not void your warranty.

[@Dirtydeesdigital]

can you hook up hand warmers with the 24 inch model without battery?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Battery is definitely preferred...Thanks for watching!

[@Ram-re5em]

Maybe have the inside ceramic coated.?

[@rogerbergeron7910]

Love the information, and the innovation. But I hate very loud music and I don’t care what your fire place looks like! I did give you a thumb up because of the content.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Roger thank you for the kind words and honest feedback.

[@bigdaddy3927]

Awesome job brother👊🏼 I have the same machine and had the same issue. Unfortunately I do not possess the tools and most importantly the skills you have. Would you be interested in modding someone else’s for a fee? I’m located in NH as well.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

You maybe in luck.. a fellow viewer made me aware that Honda is now acknowledging this issue and is covering it under warranty. Honda has come out with a modded chute with shorter collar. So check it your local dealer for more info. From my experience owning and using other Hondas is that NO collar is still hands down the best. Thanks for watching!

[@bigdaddy3927]

John Franco Awesome, that’s good news. Other than that I love the machine. Thanks brother👊🏼

[@Ram-re5em]

Boy the new chute got me 2 heavy snows and Honda was not good just clogged.

[@fredmackay7896]

Nice job

[@debbiescookingchannel2614]

Just got mine this week and it has the collar. Anyone know if the revised chute is available yet?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Yes i believe it is. Contact your local dealer for more info. Thanks for watching!

[@l337pwnage]

I'm guessing that is only there to try to discourage people from sticking their hands down there, but it'll have the opposite effect if it clogs, tho.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Its there as a deflector so stuff does not build up on the light and hood. Thanks for watching!

[@Ram-re5em]

Always put your cut off tool down with the grinder wheel up or your tool tool my take off across the shop.

[@xcalibre222]

I'd leave a small 1" ring on bottom for support that you can always remove if it caused a problem. I think the reason Honda put this on was mainly the lawyers to prevent lawsuits, it makes it harder to stick your arm in to clean it out. But yeh, it does make it harder for the slush to come out. As far as warranty work it's good they only have 2 year warranty because that's probably gone after the Mod,lol. They look for any excuse to drop your warranty. Thanks for the Vid.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I would love to hear directly from an a Honda engineer what the function of the collar truely is. Its definitely not for support. Because the metal chute does not need it. It is very stiff with out it in place. And previous gens Hondas never had a collar. Not for lawsuits because you can still stick your arm in there, and now with less visibility. Seems like Hondas with the electronic joystick for chute activation are the only ones with this collar because of the large cowling on the front to protect the 2 chute motors from the elements. And the collar provides added protection to the lamp assembly which is position further foward now then older models. With out the collar is it possible for debris such as sand,dirt,sticks and gravel to damage the finish on the cowling & lamp assembly. This is because the chute can rotate back on itself. This is my theory. Thanks for watching!

[@xcalibre222]

I see some snowblower manufacturers put a triangle shape heavy wire in this same location now on the chutes.Just makes it a bit harder to shove your arm in down to the blades. Now what dummy would do that,LOL. I bet that blower throws snow a mile with that plate gone.Thanks, Jim

[@robertsimpson7113]

You also need to get a reverse rotation grinder so it shoots sparks away from you.....

[@JohnFrancoNH]

never heard of them.

[@grounded-b937]

I would have put on a coat or two of bare metal primer where you did the grinding.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Yeah would of been good, but not necessary. I keep my machine indoors when not in use. Thanks for watching!

[@appleztooranges]

Honda claims Honda Bright Red R8 for “snowblowers”. Some people claiming power red and some do not? What is it lol

[@JohnFrancoNH]

What i use in the video matches just fine.

[@appleztooranges]

@@JohnFrancoNH yeah I checked manual it says power red for the Honda hss1332. Thanks

[@dieselking6812]

All this jazz sounds like a dirty movie lol

[@JohnFrancoNH]

LOL..Thanks for watching!

[@dieselking6812]

John Franco no problem glad I could get you a view

[@allrock1238]

I am surprised no snow blower manufacture has ever found a way to heat the chute collar assembly by routing a portion of the engine exhaust around it , there are large industrial snow blowers machines that do this to prevent chute rotation freeze up

[@JohnFrancoNH]

You are giving me ideas now haha. The answer to that is probably additional cost and complexity. Thats a great idea but theres also a blowby issue that occurs from removing the collar/deflector. I have a solution coming up for that. Stay tuned. Thanks for watching!

[@JodBronson]

Most of them now have NO Collar! Check them out at the store next time.

[@algorel4763]

John, Do you sell Honda’s in North Andover, MA?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

No , but theres a Honda PE dealer in Windham NH. Thanks for watching!

[@dalesworld1308]

All those servos to adjust the chute - that's just nuts.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

So what? Having remote chute rotation is a joy to use. Thanks for watching!

[@chrisdigital]

Lol, it's only two. Solid units, quality stuff from Honda bro, no sweat. It works awesome.

[@Ram-re5em]

I suppose some person stuck his hand down the shoot and got it ripped off so Honda put a collar on the machine.

[@KEEPERBJr]

HATE TO POP YOUR BUBBLE ITS NOT SPRAYED ON ITS POWDER COAT

[@wickeddetail7238]

Was thinking that to. Notorious red powder coat.

[@NorthernChev]

Heh... Those chute motors look exactly like Honda Civic window lift motors with plastic covers on the gearset.- PN 742-962.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Haha...could be! Thanks for watching!

[@PopPop017]

Pretty sad in 2019, on a $3,000 machine , it has to be modified with an angle grinder!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Oh well..still the best machine out there. I could of not modded it and still would work work fine. Its just my choice to do so. Thanks for watching!

[@clintegbert3405]

if you add rubber pads to the impeller pads, this will solve the problem of plugging up!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

not necessarily... Thanks for watching!

[@Samuraiwww]

Japanese model does not come with it from the beginning

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Yes my previous HS1332TAS did not have the collar. Just wide open. You could not clog that Japanese made Honda no matter what slush or snow it consumed. Thanks for watching!

[@kielbasaglen6843]

All you had to do was wax the inside of that collar and all of that inside area I think it would have solved your problem... at least would have been a good place to start... and possibly save you a lot of work.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Maybe...Thanks for watching!

[@tvrpaul71]

You know what is funny about this is I have a HS928 that has to be 20 years old and still goes like freight train but my chute has nothing like that collar on your chute

[@JohnFrancoNH]

yeah because the new chute design kinda blows. Older generations didnt need a collar BS

[@appleztooranges]

After this upgrade, Honda’s warranty is expired 😂😂😂

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Oh well Honda should of never redesigned the the lower part of the chute in the first place. Thanks for watching!

[@appleztooranges]

@@JohnFrancoNH I agree. I’ll be sticking with my 2013 Honda 1332 as it’ll just throw as far as this one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-ye5-Fps1-qrM

[@blegros]

the sparks should never be hitting you

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I prefer to cut with my right hand..and sometimes sparks just have to hit you. I really should of had my welding/grinding jacket on now looking back. Thanks for watching!

[@noworriesmate8287]

There goes the engine warranty. Machine has been modified. VOID

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Oh well. My machine my problem, right ?

[@paulbishop5779]

@@JohnFrancoNH No worries mate, all you would have to do is to purchase another chute and change the chute out if you ever needed warranty service. Dealer will not be able to tell it was modified.

[@banjoboy1941]

Over $4000.00 and no heated hand grips.

[@KEEPERBJr]

MAIL IT BACK TO HONDA TELL THEM IT DIDN'T WORK

[@georgedwinell54]

OMG cut the weld already ! First day with your new toy??

[@JohnFrancoNH]

You wish! Thanks for watching!

[@jrbbikerx3309]

drift cutter not drift breaker

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Same thing dude. The terms are interchangeable. Thanks for watching!

[@cowshottv5867]

If I pay that much money for something, I expect it to work right. Honda fail. I'm not doing the r&d for honda

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I agree with you. But i like to solve problems not have them linger

[@noworriesmate8287]

Thin water 🤪

[@JohnFrancoNH]

lol

[@highdesignfool]

Dude, take off that silly plastic squirrel cage over the muffler.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Haha. I know,.. at first it bothered me too but i have grown to like it. If you bump into the muffler housing you wont get cooked like previous gen hondas. Thanks for watching!

[@banjoboy1941]

Why the annoying music?

[@fortress66]

Just buy a yamaha snowblower

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I do not live in Canada. Honda still will out perform it in my opinion. Thanks for watching!

[@fortress66]

@@JohnFrancoNH i dont think so, they are the same quality machine, you pay a premium price for an honda