HONDA HSS1332ATD IMPROVED Teflon Chute Collar SLUSH Test | PART 2

[@echotoday]

Honda has recognized the collar as a flaw. I took my HSS1332A Honda to my dealer they swapped out the old shoot for the new one. The new one has no collar and is made of thicker steel to keep vibration to a minimum. All for free. Moved 6 inches of really wet heavy slush last week and no clogging whatsoever. Looking forward to your control extension. I’m 6’ tall and it is pretty apparent this machine was made for people on the shorter side. I don’t understand the surging. My machine has never done that and reading the comments it seems to be a point of contention (that would make me crazy too).

[@Drewg351]

I'm glad Honda came out with a new chute to solve this issue. They created this problem by putting the LED light where they did, thus adding the collar trying to protect it. I don't like the Ariens light location either, being up on the control panel. Honestly, Cub Cadet has the best solution putting an LED Light Bar on top of the auger housing. That's the best place for a light. No shadows from the chute, like on the Ariens, and no problems with having to use a collar to protect the light on the Honda. While I'm not a fan of Cub Cadet and think their "3 stage" is a sales gimmick and "clog magnet", their LED Light Bar is AWESOME.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

yes the more forward and lower mounted LED and hood for the chute motors created the need for the collar. Similar to previous gen Canadian models. Will have to check out the CC light bar. Thanks for watching!

[@freespeechfinland]

Just got an HS624 with the track drive from 1996 and it has no lamp but since i always light my way in the dark with a Zebralight H600 -series headlamp it makes no difference. :)

[@19Dennis53]

Try drying off as much as possible the areas that the snow builds up on in front and the spray that, the inside of the chute and the rest of the impellers with PAM cooking spray and see that nothing sticks and it shoots a few feet more. Works great on hand shovels also!

[@leafer655]

yes rejet for sure. You will be impressed when you get that surge out of it. No wonder the HSS blowers are clogging alot. Kind of like running an engine with the choke partially on. I would not be happy with that at all.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I am making a rejet video soon. Thanks for watching!

[@jasonchristinecharest7595]

It comes wiht 102...put 105 main jet

[@papabits5721]

The good old Honda surge, drives me nuts even on video!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I know same here. Taking care of that in an upcoming video! Stay tuned

[@andreaemmershy165]

My first and last Honda snow blower. A $3K HSS928AATD purchased on 1/22/2016 and which of course clogs with slush. My free hand me down 1976 single stage Simplicity did as good if not better! Moved from central/western MA to central Maine. Even here getting sleet, rain and slush causing clogging. Didn't realize until 1-2 years ago that this was a known issue in which Honda was somewhat admitting to. Recently reached out to a local dealer who called Honda for a possible good will replacement of the chute. A flat out no. It's too old. They are looking at it as a warranty issue when in fact it is a design issue. Considered your mod at first but, your mod is for the Honda modified chute which would add another $60 to procure. If I were to order a Honda modified chute would it also be worth while switching to a double articulated one which I'm told will add another $90 to the chute cost? Probably should post this on a snow blower site. Would appreciate any feedback.

[@Drewg351]

While I love Honda, and have Honda lawnmowers, I choose Ariens Pro RapidTrak because of these problems with the clogging chute, jetting, slow chute turning speed, and under powered (on the 28" Honda). None of these machines are perfect, but spending over $3000.00, I couldn't get over these Honda issues. I'm glad Honda finally admitted they had a "clogging chute" problem and fixed it on newer units.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Honestly you still should of got the Honda. I knew about them too still didnt stop me from buying one. Thanks for watching!

[@spartanj2957]

Love it !im going to copy cat it. Where can i get the Teflon? Thanks!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I sell the finished cover on ebay

[@ctclimberguy34]

Looking a possibly getting a Honda. The surge has me thinking.. Definitely interested in the re-jet.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Hi, i will be making a rejetting video soon to cure the surging and to give the HSS even more balls. Stay tuned. Thanks for watching!

[@dalehamilton7149]

@@JohnFrancoNH love to see a reset video. I did mine and worked great. but evidently there is a reset or drill rather with the plastic jet on the side of the carb also that works at idle.

[@musicmakelightning]

Hi John. I have an HSS928ATD and I just bought an HSS 1332ATD - need a backup snowblower out here. After watching your first vid I was ready to make the factory deflector removal mod - but then I saw this video and it made me wonder - what would have happened if you had just cut that "n" shaped hole in the factory deflector instead of removing it completely? Maybe that would have solved the problem? I guess there's no way to know.

[@sebc58]

I too have a HSS928. Just an FYI Hoonda now has a replacement chute assembly

[@musicmakelightning]

@@sebc58 My new HSS1332 came (just yesterday) with a chute that looks like what John did when he cut out the baffle originally (not with the teflon).

[@JohnFrancoNH]

what is the part #?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Does this new updated chute still allow blow back into the head light and operators face when turned all the way clockwise?

[@musicmakelightning]

@@JohnFrancoNH Good question, and as it's still warm and summer here - I can't go out and experiment. However, I do seem to remember from last winter that it does under certain conditions.

[@lorensmith9700]

Hey Franco was the blow by really that bad? Or are you just bored? I’m doing the collar delete now then came across this video. Seems a little unnecessary to me. Was it really that much of a problem?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I take it you havent tried the new collar delete yet then? These new models can rotate the chute back clockwise almost to the point were it hits you in the face. Doesnt happen as much all the way CCW. Try it

[@l337pwnage]

Seems to do the job. I'm thinking of making a much more basic baffle for mine. Just bolt it in with eyebolts and locking wingnuts, the idea being I can remove it without tools if needed. Leave it in for normal snow, remove it for slush.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

A good design does not need to be removed. I recommend going with low profile hardware. Wingnuts and slots etc have crossed my mind but it adds alot of bulk which will accumulate discharge. I will be making a follow up video soon. Working on a newer design for the chute guard/deflector. Should be out next month. Thanks for watching!

[@l337pwnage]

@@JohnFrancoNH It would be difficult to describe my design, suffice it to say, the wingnuts won't be on the inside. I probably never will have to remove it. I rarely even have to blow slush. I won't know till I do it. I have no problem with adapting equipment for different applications, it doesn't bother me. If it does become a problem, I'll just install an impeller kit.

[@Vfh........y]

I fixed my GX390 from surging by cleaning that air jet. . The video can be accessed at the website. Taryl fixes all. You simply clean. That jet without dismantling the carburetor at all. . It takes about 10 minutes and I put up with that surging for about 10 years and fix it in 10 minutes.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Will be making a rejetting video soon. Thanks for watching!

[@jamesjannell8706]

Great video. Thank you. I have the same machine and really happy except I’m over 6’ tall and find myself hunching over. Does anyone know if Honda or aftermarket makes something to raise the handle bars and controls to accommodate taller folks ??? That so much. JJ

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Not that i know of but ill see if i can come up with a solution for you tall folks. I get a bunch of people emailing me about this.

[@jamesjannell8706]

@@JohnFrancoNH if you could find a solution for us y’all people that would be fantastic. And then sell your patent to Honda. Lol.

[@bombidude]

What's the difference from the older chutes to the newer ones? When did honda put the updated chute on?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Newer ones have a u shaped cutout at the top of the chute collar.

[@bombidude]

@@JohnFrancoNH got ya thanks

[@zoen68]

Where do you get the Teflon?

[@REWTIGER]

saw others stated about adding the rubber pcs to your impeller? you stated honda's do not need them? i see that this unit does throw pretty far, but could throe much further if added the rubber pcs. there has to be some clearance between the impeller and housing. just curious and asking.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Hondas design already has a much smaller clearance for the impeller that you mention. Yes if you install a rubber flap you could get a better seal. How much better?.. not sure. I do have an impeller kit specifically for Honda i am going to install soon. so stay tuned. Thanks for watching!

[@jedonyoutube5018]

I was thinking of doing the same for my snowblower but for a different reason. I want to try to reduce the amount of snow mist/fog when snow is fluffy/powdery. Does this mod help with that ? Was just going to use a 2 litre plastic pop bottle.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Yes that was also the intent behind my design to keep snow in a tighter stream as it exits preventing blow back into my face. Thanks for watching!

[@youraninee]

Time to move to Florida and ditch the snow

[@JohnFrancoNH]

LOL . Thanks for watching!

[@okazo81]

Honda machine is expensive a little ,,,, but it is the best !!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

You get what you pay for!

[@imdeplorable2241]

I like that snowblower but, that surging is really annoying.😖 I had to mute that part of the video.😊 I subscribed anyway.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks. It annoys me too. LOL Surging fix mod coming soon.

[@Ram-re5em]

John must be a engineer and really board - wife if one maybe in the arts ?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Haha...Thanks for watching!

[@johnnywishbone1349]

MARTIN WOOLDRIDGE He’s the man for putting in the time and thinking. I’m glad he brought this issue to our attention. Was at the dealer today and noticed the HSS1332 had the new updated shute installed right from the factory. It’s design is different than his in the video. Small collar at the bottom that covers the corners.

[@douglasthompson2740]

I don't really call that slush. Your carb needs a good clean. My old Honda had no problem up the chute but where the impeller opening choked down into a square opening which restricted and caught the heavy wet slush. Thirty someting degrees and snow plow berms with salt makes real slush in a coastal environment. Huge problem which is terrible to hand shovel. The HS622 was all gear driven not a belt on it. Gravel driveways eat up the machine.

[@peterw9810]

Hi John, do you ever find that the mechanism rotating the chute hangs up?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Never! why do you ask? Thanks for watching!

[@chrisE815]

I could see it happening for machines stored outside if moisture builds up in the gears but I bet it's a rare event.

[@robertsimpson7113]

Why does the motor surge when first started and running unloaded at full throttle???

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Because Honda jets them very lean for emissions regulations for all states. I have rejetted no more surge now....

[@jspinosa50]

Great idea but why is your engine hunting?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

check out my recent videos. I solved it

[@abouttime5000]

Put a little shot of WD40 in the shute. That will help the snow to slide out.

[@Pileits]

Hopefully you "lubed" up your chute and impeller BEFORE you went after wet, slushy snow. WD40 or even PAM cooking spray works. Toro makes a lub but probably costs to much. Do something to make your stuff slippery.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Should not need to..my previous gen honda never clogged. Didnt even have to think of lubing it. Thanks for watching!

[@monk43012]

Is that sheet Teflon or Delrin?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

teflon...Thanks for watching!

[@dondon747x]

I do disagree with the problem. The Clogging issue is because the motor is not running high. That could be because of the choke or not having the gas turned up enough. The motor is surging, check the carb and the choke.

[@ericswenson1466]

What's causing it to run like that at 20:30?

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Hi Eric, that surging is because the gx390 main jet runs lean from the factory. (.102mm stock i believe) It comes and goes as you can tell. I have ordered the next 4 steps up in main jets. And will try each of them out soon, hopefully make a video of it and how it runs. Thanks for watching!

[@1955gaylord]

Buy the new ariens efi and you wont have this problem .

[@dalehamilton7149]

@@JohnFrancoNH another guy suggested a 1.1 mm or 43 thousandths. I tried that and works great wonder if I could go more?

[@jaymcquate3853]

Sounds like a dragster with a big cam. Hate that sound...on a snowblower!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

LOL

[@tuoerming]

The engine surges. Fix the fuel line and clean the carb first.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

LOL

[@dalehamilton7149]

would you be Interiested in selling your final template? thanks

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I just may do that for those interested. Have a follow up video coming soon. Thanks for watching!

[@sgagnon]

@@JohnFrancoNH I was planing on cutting the collar from my chute in the coming weeks but just saw this video of yours. I'd also be interested in the cut out as I could avail of a fabrication shop at work to produce it and complete the work in one shot.

[@S_man89]

What that surging sound it’s making? Is it supposed to make that sound. It sounds wrong to me.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thats how the carb is tuned by Honda for emissions. LOL I know its annoyingAF. I will have a rejetting video coming soon. Hold tight, more HSS videos coming i promise!

[@S_man89]

@@JohnFrancoNH weird I would have not guessed that was done on purpose. Cool!

[@got2getit204]

Toro here! Should of listen to me!

[@JohnFrancoNH]

My Honda will bury that toro!

[@litchar]

I've got a 30 year old honda that runs like that until I drained a quarter cup of water out of the gas take and then it went back to running like it always did.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Damn. Thanks for watching!

[@yfung4140]

good job

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@skyemac8]

The carb needs a good cleaning.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

You can clean that carb all day and it not going to stop the surging. It was like that ever since brand new. Watch my rejetting videos. Thanks for watching!

[@olidore]

I would like to do the same... You got a website where I can find that kind of teflon, the teflon I have it's way too stiff.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

ebay...Thanks for watching!

[@Tommy-wr3pq]

The engine sound is rippling but let's clean a carburetor.

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Surging? Will address that soon in a video..Thanks for watching!

[@bigdaddy3927]

Nice 👉🏼👈🏼

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@denisdumais2195]

Silvouplet...pouvou...envoye...sa...enfranais...merci☺️☺️☺️

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Thanks for watching!

[@drivecleat]

clean your carb

[@JohnFrancoNH]

Not the carb my friend. Honda detunes the motor to run lean on purpose for emission compliance.

[@melvinthemechanic]

Wtf but it doesent seem like its as slushy as before you 🥶

[@JohnFrancoNH]

It was very slushy. Thanks for sharing!

[@justanotherdillhole7824]

I have nothing good to say about this machine @6'2" I'm slumping over to control , Surging motor, chute problems $3500.00 POS

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I have a fix video coming soon for the surging. As for the height issue i will look into if the frame can be extended i have alot of people asking me about this. Will see if i can come up with a solution. Thanks for watching!

[@jayhut2262]

4k snowblower and you have to modify the chute 🥴

[@JohnFrancoNH]

I know, right?...Thanks for watching!