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Cutting It Close

Cutting It Close

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The weirdest tool in woodworking is a little something we like to call a flap sander. Join us as we take you on a tour of our Larick 260 Profile Sander and show you what it's truly capable of!
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@CanadianCitizenshipTestKit
@CanadianCitizenshipTestKit 9 ай бұрын
ANOTHER tool that I didn't know existed five minutes ago, yet that I can no longer live without!
@TekedixXx
@TekedixXx 9 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who's surprised how quiet the machine is? Love that.
@DaileyWoodworks
@DaileyWoodworks 17 күн бұрын
Pretty much all 240v or 480v pro grade equipment is much quieter than 120v consumer grade. I just upgraded from a Ridgid planer to a 3ph Jet planer and it’s 2x more powerful and 1/2 the noise.
@builtbybittle
@builtbybittle 9 ай бұрын
Seems crazy that you only have to replace the paper once or twice a year. Paper on your hand orbital sanders will not always last through a single project.
@DavZell
@DavZell 9 ай бұрын
Consider the total surface area of each and how long they're in contact with the wood. There's a lot of abrasive on the wheels he shows, and they may be being used more effectively/efficiently than on an orbital sander, too. He shows the wheels being used to mostly round edges and strips extraneous bits out, not necessarily sanding whole faces for surface prep or harsher tooling removal. I'd guess the ROS is more likely being used in those types of tasks. This is just my humble guess.
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
Brush sanders are used to "finish" sand and "sealer" sand. Often when using a brush sander one will install 180 grit in the forward direction and 220 in reverse. This will enable it to have 2 grits at the flip of a switch. The abrasives last a long time because they are designed for non-aggressive sanding at very low pressures. They are designed to sand into grooves and odd shapes, but can also be used on flat work pieces. They are so "less" aggressive than their counterparts that they are very commonly used for sealer sanding. Since they are less aggressive the abrasives have a longer life.
@GeahkBurchill
@GeahkBurchill 9 ай бұрын
If you think about it, that machine probably has 100sf of sandpaper on it and it’s a only really abrading a fraction of an inch on the tips of each flap
@Sp1der44
@Sp1der44 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant Video - I love your enthusiasm for the product because it saves you so much time and hassle - which as somebody who has refinished antiques in the past, I could totally understand. Great stuff!
@chechnya
@chechnya 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like he's advertising it
@user-bt5qt9pp4x
@user-bt5qt9pp4x 9 ай бұрын
Ah man that would make the perfect back scratcher
@caklais777
@caklais777 9 ай бұрын
I love using air flap sander. Really handy for bigger pieces. We use flap sanders on brushing machine after applying finish to remove all sharp points. Sandpaper is really expensive, but for air sander we cut our own strips and glue them in.
@mpakirk
@mpakirk 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! Though I want one, I am too small to justify it. But your information turned me on to the Sand-Rite flap sanders. Was able to purchase an 80, 120, and 220 grit. I run them on my lathe but will eventually get dedicated motors.
@pathfinderairborne920
@pathfinderairborne920 9 ай бұрын
For a smaller shop, there is a better fit. Look for an air bag sander. It pretty much will do what this does. But it's a lot smaller and less expensive. Basically it's a 8" inch wide bag, that inflates, like a tire. You order the grit and size sandpaper you need. Slip it on the bag and inflate. It will sand the contours about the same way. If you need something for a larger shop, look for the one he's showing. It's a great sander.
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
A balloon/pneumatic/air bag sander does not replace a brush sander. You don't see these too much these days. It is much more aggressive than a brush sander. Ironically I have a Crouch in stock with 1 balloon head on one side and a Brush head on the other. A balloon sander is usually a horizonal version of a spindle sander with an adjustable pneumatic core. If fully inflated it can almost be as aggressive as a hard rubber cored spindle sander. When deflated it is far less aggressive and can somewhat contour to shapes. HOWEVER it is not a replacement for a brush sander. A brush sander can get into the grooves of profiles which a balloon sander could never reach. Like say a piece of crown moulding. It is also way less aggressive than a balloon sander in that a brush sander can also sealer sand! These are all great tools and application specific. One does not necessarily replace the other by any means.
@pathfinderairborne920
@pathfinderairborne920 9 ай бұрын
@360degreemachinery Yes Sir, I completely agree. It is definitely not a replacement. However, it is a pretty good alternative for a small shop. No, it will not sand crown molding and such. It will however sand a lot of contour and flat surfaces very quickly. Faster than a belt sander or even a spindle sander. Your machine is amazing, but I couldn't justify the cost in a small shop. A few years ago, we were building pine bunk beds, maybe several hundred a week. The pneumatic sander did good for those. We sanded flat and contour on the same machine, just different grits on either side. I appreciate you responding. God bless you and family, Brother.
@renderuthis
@renderuthis 9 ай бұрын
@@360degreemachinery Id like to see a pic of that
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
@@pathfinderairborne920 Your making me feel my age! Pump/Balloon are very old terms! Yes, they are wonderful sanders for furniture parts! The reason you don't see them that often is most turnings now come out of Italy or Vietnam. While a lot of furniture components.....even if the furniture is assembled here also come from off shore.....so you don't see them as often state side any more.
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
@@renderuthis kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGaWY55jg8p5j5I
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a tool you need to be mindful with :D Like 1slip and stuff goes flying everywhere but I might be wrong too
@EZStudRack
@EZStudRack 9 ай бұрын
Howdy Ryan! Came across your videos and said to myself “hey I know this guy!” Great to see you are doing well!
@SuperJonesVideo
@SuperJonesVideo 9 ай бұрын
Great product! This would be a great DIY project to build a machine that can achieve the same finish.
@Dex99SS
@Dex99SS 9 ай бұрын
Really wouldn't be too hard to make one of these, even to the exact same size and caliber / quality of this one. You'd have to have some fab skills for sure, but it's easily on the doable side of things.
@danc2207
@danc2207 9 ай бұрын
The lathe you already have in your shop could be set up for this very quickly
@seanshomeshop325
@seanshomeshop325 9 ай бұрын
it'd be pretty tedious, but your right its just sandpaper, some bristles the barrel that holds everything, then a motor and vfd
@formes2388
@formes2388 9 ай бұрын
@@danc2207 I would lean towards making an attachment and a jig to support it that is powered by a standard drill.
@Slashenaar
@Slashenaar 9 ай бұрын
Kinda looks a bit like a rear axle, doesn't it?
@qodesmith520
@qodesmith520 9 ай бұрын
Never saw this before. Pretty unique.
@jakewilson1070
@jakewilson1070 9 ай бұрын
Crazy that something that is literally just a motor with RPM control would be $5000-6000.......
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 9 ай бұрын
As machinery goes, this is a bargain... ask anyone who run... this isn't some kind of knocked-up DIY gadget... its built to last and as he explains in the video, the time (=money) saved makes it well worth it... I remember having to install 2 new headstock bearings in a little semi-automatic Britan lathe, must be 30+ years ago... the 2 bearings cost me over a grand sterling... I bought a bender for making brackets, hand-operated, not powered, around £800... It looks like theres very little in that sander but fabrication costs and those brush-heads add up... 😎👍☘🍺
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
It's about how it saves time which equates to money for a business, making a one off DIY version would take a lot of time and during that time your employees are wasting even more time sanding in less efficient ways.
@akharon
@akharon 9 ай бұрын
Good video (as usual), thank you. You'd mentioned linking a home version, you're looking for the Grizzly G8749.
@NathanTalbertWoodworking
@NathanTalbertWoodworking 9 ай бұрын
That thing is awesome. Definitely gonna keep my eyes open for a smaller version of something like this.
@AlfredoSanHer
@AlfredoSanHer 9 ай бұрын
The cheapest option are sanding mops. You can even Made them yourself. Are Time saver. Surelt not as much as this machine . But hoy van start to sabe Time. Cheers!
@mpakirk
@mpakirk 9 ай бұрын
Look at the Sand-Rite flap sanders.
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 9 ай бұрын
Just make one. The size you want.
@aishwaryalifegoeson611
@aishwaryalifegoeson611 5 ай бұрын
Great sir.. can you give more details about wood to use, bit and more details about toolpath..
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
Looks good but I think it would be easier to use and less fatiguing if it spun the opposite direction. It's easier to pull upwards than to push downwards and you have more control that way as well. I wonder why they chose to have it rotate where the wheel is going upwards, there might be a good reason but it just seems like it would be awkward to use.
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton 9 ай бұрын
1:11 In 3 years, this machine saved you 10 years of work? How many employees are in your shop dedicated to sanding?
@cutting-it-close
@cutting-it-close 9 ай бұрын
5-7 employees at and it reduced are sanding times by 35%
@napoleonsmith7793
@napoleonsmith7793 9 ай бұрын
Please leave the links.
@Tacovreter44
@Tacovreter44 9 ай бұрын
Hi man, how’s dustcollection on this machine? Are you able to use it safely without respirator?
@sage5296
@sage5296 9 ай бұрын
The fundamentals of the machine seem really simple, it’s practically just one really long/wide flap sanding disk, but i think the real benefit is probably related to the dust collection, the speed control, all the little things that when they work right you just don’t think about, probably is what puts this above those similar sorts of things like the drill press mop sanders or similar
@2mustange
@2mustange 9 ай бұрын
Ohh perfect another tool that i want for no reason since i dont have a shop
@user-xz3iy3pt9j
@user-xz3iy3pt9j 9 ай бұрын
Great tool!
@keonfrey5560
@keonfrey5560 8 ай бұрын
What grit/grits are you using?
@szki272
@szki272 9 ай бұрын
We had a small version of this. Our big complaint was the paper was expensive, and when you loaded in the new paper it wasn't offset so you had to trim some off 2 of the 3 connected pieces of paper. wasting 1/2 to 3/4 of usable material.
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 9 ай бұрын
Interesting tool- and looks easy to make. Something a bit smaller will do me...
@dragutinkizevski5774
@dragutinkizevski5774 9 ай бұрын
Love your videos, help me a lot! Whats the RPM on that machine?
@alaskawoodenspoonguy7276
@alaskawoodenspoonguy7276 9 ай бұрын
The grizzle sander sucks. Sandrite works better for a small shop.
@AlbiesProductsOnline
@AlbiesProductsOnline 9 ай бұрын
Instead of running your fingers along to see if you get a splinter get a piece of paper towel and run that along and see if it leaves any paper towel fibres it’s safer and it’s also more sensitive giving you a better chance of catching those splinter points
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
You have to then look for the fine fibers where as you get instant feedback by feel. After a few splinters you get better at sanding, kind of like how you learn not to touch a hot stove as a kid.
@paulkramer4176
@paulkramer4176 9 ай бұрын
nice machine! Too expensive for me, but I do have a couple of SandRite's flap sanders. The paper IS expensive. Tempting to use this for too much. So I keep a couple grit sizes to really NOT try to sand too much with the finer grits. Sure is nice for odd shapes.
@ot9180
@ot9180 9 ай бұрын
I have a toothpick biz. You recommend it for that?
@lcirocco
@lcirocco 9 ай бұрын
Eyeballs, you can't replace them. All that onion skin flyin off in the direction of them was a concern, maybe just some glasses when you're using the machine.
@joecooper8527
@joecooper8527 9 ай бұрын
Need to figure out a diy version of this somehow.
@fractode
@fractode 9 ай бұрын
AvE would give a warning about this, along the lines of "don't use this when you're naked and, er, 'excited'...".
@braunbrushCo
@braunbrushCo 9 ай бұрын
Well, that's a brush we didn't know existed!
@paulmarsh9663
@paulmarsh9663 9 ай бұрын
Do they do smaller machines? Can I get it in the uk?
@Drew_Snydermann
@Drew_Snydermann 9 ай бұрын
That dust collector flopping around @ 5:50 would drive me nuts.
@alexjames1146
@alexjames1146 9 ай бұрын
That thing is amazing. Dangerous as! Standing so close with a loose shirt??!
@TanyaLairdCivil
@TanyaLairdCivil 9 ай бұрын
Nice Aggie ring!
@AndyBirdBuilds
@AndyBirdBuilds 9 ай бұрын
I need this
@blackadder1966
@blackadder1966 9 ай бұрын
Does a flap sander negate the need for lube?
@jonlanier_
@jonlanier_ 9 ай бұрын
Grizzly G8749 - Drum / Flap Sander $569.95 Yea... As hobbyist... I can't afford that one either.
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
I hear you but everything is getting expensive these days.
@barkel27
@barkel27 9 ай бұрын
These are grinding systems in Russia, probably much cheaper than yours.
@j.r.millstone
@j.r.millstone 9 ай бұрын
3:51 Adadondak furniture.
@diGritz1
@diGritz1 9 ай бұрын
For wood? I guess you could use it for that but originally it was a Kaiju toe nail polisher. Someone probably rebranded it because Kaijus aren't real. "0_o"
@scrapper666
@scrapper666 9 ай бұрын
It's "be all, end all".
@shakes7333
@shakes7333 9 ай бұрын
"All that was out there was these really expensive machines that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars" Then buys a 5-6k machine 😂 I get what saying though lol
@bradlugar6163
@bradlugar6163 3 ай бұрын
Where the heck do I buy this machine? Am I blind?
@cutting-it-close
@cutting-it-close 3 ай бұрын
360degreemachinery.com/shop/categories/sanders/edgesander/larick-260-profile-sander/
@Kackspack0815
@Kackspack0815 9 ай бұрын
2:25 What!? You don’t disclose the cost of changing the sandpaper!? 🤮
@michaelwillson6847
@michaelwillson6847 9 ай бұрын
It looks like something that cows would use befroe they go get milked or to give them a clean. Although my question would a large legnth horizontal belt sander not be a beter option and would probably be cheaper 🤔🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍
@martinsvensson6884
@martinsvensson6884 9 ай бұрын
How could such a machine possibly do the same thing? Would work for an even surface only...
@monarchco
@monarchco 9 ай бұрын
Different machines for different surfaces. You can't use an edge sander to smooth odd corners and squared edges.
@scrapper666
@scrapper666 9 ай бұрын
Hundreds AND thousands? Or hundreds OF thousands?
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 9 ай бұрын
Who cares
@ccfmfg
@ccfmfg 9 ай бұрын
6:00
@BeaulieuTodd
@BeaulieuTodd 9 ай бұрын
Since when is telling viewers your cost on materials? Never heard that mindset before. Ever.
@arnefines2356
@arnefines2356 9 ай бұрын
Since when what?
@jakeledg
@jakeledg 9 ай бұрын
How is this 5-6k?
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
He said he purchased it about 2-3 years ago. So prices have changed a bit since inflation hit from 2020-23. However Larick has had fewer price increases than other manufacturers. Current retail as of 8/23 is $4,730.00 plus heads and abrasives. The heads are a little pricey as the standard spindles are 600 MM. Depending on what head abrasive combo you can expect a price in the $7,030-7,530 range.
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
@@360degreemachinery I think he was implying that it's more expensive than it should be.
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
@phillhuddleston9445 First off no one is getting rich off this machine. It is a specialized offering and built one at a time. It is not mass produced. We should be thankful as it is a bargain. Why? Well I would advise 2 things. (1) Can you tell me how you would build it for less? At under $5,000 for the motor stand and arbor retail I would bet that you would be hard pressed to be able to retail it for less. (2) This is exactly why almost nothing is made here and many of the options we have are junk toys on the lower end of the market....because the consumer pushes the price point so low that it can only be made in a third world country out of inferior parts. One need not worry about this regarding this machine as it is very specialized and those that "copy" things over seas, destroying US/European brands could not sell enough of these to make it a viable product. Ironically these brands that have copied and put US brands out of business or offshore have now raised their prices to the point where in 2023 many of them are beginning to reach the prices of both US and Italian machines. I find it ironic that the consumer is the one actually responsible for the demise of quality as they always complain about pricing to the point where we all but loose quality as reduced pricing pushes inferior parts and build quality and also makes many many more things disposable and not long lasting. There was a time when consumers demanded quality, longevity, reliability.......
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
@@360degreemachineryI know that and agree with you, I was just pointing out that Jakeledg's comment was likely saying that he thinks it's over priced. If it saves a lot of time in production it will pay for itself quickly and then make you more money.
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
@phillhuddleston9445 My goal was to provide facts as to its value in "either" direction in which his comment was aimed. What is perplexing to me is that Ryan's title to the video proves value. At just $10 an hour, which is never the true cost of a $10 employee, this $7,500 off the shelf machine has saved him at least $100,000 in labor over very little time. He has literally made 12+ times his money off this machine (so far). So I get that the machine is expensive if you are looking at it in a static environment, but Ryan literally gave context and the knowledge of how to increase profit. If you gave me $7,500 and in 2-3 years I returned $100,000 I'd say there was nothing but value there!
@IndieGuvenc
@IndieGuvenc 9 ай бұрын
I wanted to see you use it, shucks
@p__jay
@p__jay 9 ай бұрын
"i leave the link in the description" and all i find is a stupid drill bit 🤷🏻‍♂🤦🏻‍♂
@cutting-it-close
@cutting-it-close 9 ай бұрын
I will put the link there, I’m working on a building right now, give me a few hours and I’ll have it there! Thanks for the reminder
@p__jay
@p__jay 9 ай бұрын
@@cutting-it-close no worries, but thank you ✌🏻
@danielastone7924
@danielastone7924 9 ай бұрын
OMG !!! This lazy guy wants you to do all the work for him! It's something you search on Google!!
@DavZell
@DavZell 9 ай бұрын
​@@cutting-it-closeGentle reminder...
@andrewtackett8836
@andrewtackett8836 9 ай бұрын
Do your employees wear safety glasses? You don’t seem to.
@Theuniverseisstrange
@Theuniverseisstrange 9 ай бұрын
Love the videos dude. Im looking at getting an ironwood upcut saw. I want to put a tiger fence on it. Do you have a tiger fence? What are your thoughts on those?
@NordicSpartan
@NordicSpartan 9 ай бұрын
Cool machine, but WHY ON EARTH would you say that this machine has saved you 20.000 (or 10.000 in the title) hours in the past three years?! 10.000 hours divided by 3x365 days equals just over 9 hours SAVED every single day three years straight. I don't normally bother commenting, but that just irked me. Realisticly, I guess this machine may have saved you 1000 hours over 3 years (which is still very good!).
@cutting-it-close
@cutting-it-close 9 ай бұрын
So I have 5 employees that use it daily on the shop floor. Based on the numbers and quantity of product sanded this saved me around 12,000 hours of labor over the last 3 years. I should have clarified better in the video, thank you for watching, I really do appreciate it, is there anything else you would like to see?
@quantum_beeb
@quantum_beeb 9 ай бұрын
This saved you 3 years? Lol
@greggv8
@greggv8 9 ай бұрын
I tried to look up the price for the refills, wheels, supplies etc for this machine and found *nothing*. Nobody selling this thing puts it out there on their website how much the abrasives cost for it. Not even the manufacturer, which is no longer Larick. Pillar machine bought Larick. It's all Contact Us to find out. If a company refuses to put the cost of something on a website, if I have to spend time to call or email, or if they only have info on a PDF, my interest drops way waaayyyyy down. With PDFs especially so since all the browsers now automatically save them to the default downloads folder to keep instead of the browser's cache. Please, just stop using PDF for stuff that should be on a web page. The companies want to get you on the phone to try and sell you the machine before they'll tell you the supplies cost or get your email and other information. Industrial machinery companies are still acting like it's the era of phone, FAX, and printed catalogs, except e-mails have replaced FAXes and PDF has replaced the paper catalog.
@tehpanda64
@tehpanda64 9 ай бұрын
????????? so I am not like, in the business of buying equipment from suppliers, but why would you not want price transparency on the sand paper replacement? many times have I considered purchasing a piece of commercial equipment, but I cannot even find the price without calling so I just find another solution.
@husseinhani
@husseinhani 9 ай бұрын
why the covers are dancing ? it looks really unstable with that long shaft.
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 9 ай бұрын
I'd guess it is made flimsy so that the covers move out of the way incase a hand gets sucked into it, might catch on a sleeve or something.
@SeattleMarc
@SeattleMarc 9 ай бұрын
"I'll put a link in the description" --- why must you turn this channel into a den of LIES? :-)
@BobtheUserName
@BobtheUserName 9 ай бұрын
And you don’t have to wear those cumbersome eye protectors!
@cnccarving
@cnccarving 9 ай бұрын
this looks a good deal sanding can be very inefficient, and timeconsuming
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
A shop usually spends around 40% of it's time building a product........and 60% finishing. At some point, to gain more profit, one needs to address sanding efficiencies. It is a brick wall that everyone hits! There is a reason why big companies invest in multi-hundred thousand dollar sanding lines and often employ multiple different types of sanders!
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 9 ай бұрын
​@@360degreemachinery thank you for your interestung and informed comments peppered throughout the comments section... I love how some people are just naturally inclined to be helpful & share their knowledge willingly... its a rare attrubute in this world. ❤👏😏 😎👍☘🍺
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 Thank you for your kind words. Often people are quick to place blame, judgment, or opinion on something without thinking that there are different situations than that of their own. Sanding is highly application specific and the title Ryan used "This Saved Me Over 10,000 Hours" is very believable based on amount of sales, what he is sanding, the finish he is trying to achieve, and the units processed. His investment literally increased the quality of his product and put Big time money in his pocket as PROFIT. His ROI (return on investment) was well worth the cost and this is the true lesson that people should be looking at! Money invested and money earned off the investment!
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 9 ай бұрын
Lol,, "..when you're doing a job with lots of these little curves, it's absolutely perfect." ... drops the word 'profile' from name. I get dropping the manufacturrer and model, but it's a Profile Sander. Imo, you need that word in the name, cz it tells you what it specializes at. A flap sander could be anythiung, cz as you point out, flaps come in shapes and sizes, some which are not good for profiles. Which doesn't negate it's descriptive value, but 'flap' is describing the tool, not the jobb the tool does. Maybe if there are different types of profile sanders, it could be a flap profile sander.. lol, I'm laughing at myself... peace lol, but, also, u know, if you say profile all the time, you start to think of profiles. Actually, what got my attention, was thst word, cz I have been loosely designing, in my head, over the past while, a system for sanding automotive doors and panels, with a affordable small shop machine, so I thought a 'profile sander' wow, let's see thst, lol... So, the basic idea I see, works for wood profile pieces too, like you, but for, say, cupboards, what you want is a sled that slides under the wheel, so you could lay panels flat, pass it under, and have the flaps designed to morph to every line, perhaps a giant spinning sponge??Idk they probably have them, lol peace
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
Sanders with this type of abrasive are known as brush sanders. It's a general category that also includes wire consumables as well. It is available in multiple configurations from single spindles to multi-head machines that are conveyor fed depending on application. The reason is the sander can hold different abrasives and can be used in a variety of ways. From finish sanding to sealer sanding. A brush sander is also far less aggressive than a profile sander. A profile sander would be something like a Larick Model 150. On the 150 you use profiled abrasives. Meaning a rubber disk that is "profiled" like the profile you are running and abrasive lined. Since it's shape matches the shape you are running it is called a "profile" sander.
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 9 ай бұрын
@@360degreemachinery Lol, yes, see that's what I was designing!... and he said they call it a proffile sander, ... I actually have thought about what you describe, a cross bar custom fit for every type of panel, so they could be sold in full vehicle sets, or individual panels, but for pro shops, I think that's a lot of equipment, new models every year, cars that are 40 years old coming in, etcc.. so my thoughts turned to something that molds to any shape, why I mentioned the sponge, also tines, as you said. ....Obviously, a spinning axle, and a conveyor, opens a lot of possibilities what you can put on the axle, hencce a list of categories. I'm guessing the factories have machines, but they could easily make dies for their needs it is worth it, but I'm preetty sure shops still hand sand every panel several times, and shaping... I look at a planer and I think, that's the ticket, but it needs to take any shape. By hand, we do that with a sponge, but, we only do a 4 inch pass each time, Idk,... lol, but obviously, I know what I am talking about, lol... peace * I started looking at the Shopsmith table system,because I lovve their sandpaper, and wnt to their site, Dam! Another idea I had brewing, 7 tools in one table - Saw, router, planer etc. and they got this cool clamp bar for joinery, I hadn't thought about it yet, but it was on the list, since I found pipe clamps. Woodworking market could use a similar but tailored unit, I think it would do well. Look at all the free million dollar ideas! lolk
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 9 ай бұрын
60 seconds later... lol.. Digital age, CNC's, after sales service, and autobody support much better these days. If not already done, they will have templates online for your CNC sanders, maybe some type of cross bar, withthousand tines, and it takes the shape it needs to. Future is here man... l
@360degreemachinery
@360degreemachinery 9 ай бұрын
@@blackopal3138 You stated that, "I'm preetty sure shops still hand sand every panel several times." I have done business with thousands of commercial wood shops at this point in my life. While there is yet no way to go from machine-sander to finishing with out a person touching it first. We are getting close! It is simply not profitable to have someone "hand sand" each panel several times. Currently technology allows for machinery to sand to a point where people only need to "touch up" panels if you employ the correct technology for a specific application. Especially on panels. It gets more complicated when sanding 3D parts. However we are getting to the point where robots designed to put even pressure, that scan the surface, and manipulate shapes, contours ect......are right around the corner! Additionally brush sanders are often called flap sanders (older term) and sometimes profile sanders. Calling a brush sander a profile sander because you are sanding profiles with it is not necessarily wrong for an end user. Manufactures and tool dealers use the terms more specifically to help a customer fit their needs best. For instance needing to sand multiple different moulding profiles with one machine would require a brush sander. Calling me and telling me you have to sand the end grain in a specific profile on a raised panel and I would offer you a profile sander with a head specifically designed to mate into the raised panel profile itself. One is just singularly profile specific. While brush sanders are more generalized.
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 9 ай бұрын
@@360degreemachinery ya, cool stuff. I look forward to it. .... Meanwhile, I have sanded and stained this table at least 5x, because I can't get a good finish on the epoxy, lol. I used to be the sand and stain guy for a cabinet maker, I did every cupboard door with a 6', and no dust extraction(dedicated, there was a shop system), so a machine doing a better job then me, should be pretty straight forward, lol... Good talkin to ya, I fell asleep last night:) Peace
@km7079
@km7079 9 ай бұрын
The chips go flying and no, eye protection another irresponsible video for those out there who don’t know any better.
@gp3918
@gp3918 9 ай бұрын
Awesome, if we are pointing out mistakes, let me be the first to mention your use of the comma between "no" and "eye", is incorrect.
@personofnote1571
@personofnote1571 9 ай бұрын
This isn’t a safety video. It would be ridiculous to expect every video to include full safety explanations for everything they are doing. If someone doesn’t know about safety glasses I don’t know what to tell them. 🤷‍♂️
@ramluma
@ramluma 9 ай бұрын
Instead of criticizing, make your own video.
@keonfrey5560
@keonfrey5560 9 ай бұрын
He is clearly using his safety squints.
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 9 ай бұрын
Km is irresponsible
@LivingMyBestLifeIAm
@LivingMyBestLifeIAm 9 ай бұрын
0:03 Did you say hundreds AND thousands of dollars? Or hundreds OF thousands? 😂🫶🏻
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 9 ай бұрын
10000 hours saved, $10 an hour, $100000 justified
@MrFuckyouthisisstupi
@MrFuckyouthisisstupi 9 ай бұрын
I'm brought here because of the song playing in the background? Cool anyways
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