Best Suspension Upgrades for your Electric Dirt Bike

[@TechLineHD]

I love the Fastace Gravity on my Ventus One. I'm not a pro rider but it feels great on the trails

[@Pthomas.]

Man that video was needed. Already rocking ext in the front and back. Fork upgrade was incredible noticeable. ❤ Thank you for your content and sharing your knowledge guys. Much love

[@roberts6251]

@ChargedCycleWorks If you had to rank all of these front forks from best to worst how would you rank them based on performance, excluding the cost of the fork.

[@MotoJB]

More options now than when I started! I had older fast ace or EXT...glad I went EXT. Pricey though.

[@lithiumbizkit]

Killer vid as always fellas. Lots of great info.

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

Sick username 🤘🏻

[@Mrmoger_702]

Can you guys make a video on making the geometry on the Surron x

[@VoltedAdventures]

Great video! Thanks for the info 🫡

[@se11459]

This was great, thanks for the video! I’m looking for forks with a lot of torsional rigidity, ie when standing in front of the bars with the wheel between my legs I don’t want to be able to twist the bars side to side like my older KKE’s. Those things would always twist in the clamps. So I want stiff tubes and big clamps. Rofloxrs look good in this regard but are all these newer forks good from that standpoint?

[@Lewis_214]

Really good video!

[@Clutchkidd135]

Can’t wait for the formula tech video. Been eyeing those for a minute and thinking of selling my EXT ferro fork for them.

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

@@Clutchkidd135 coming up soon!

[@MarkFries-o7n]

Can you tell me the options for a RFN/Beta? Thanks

[@hollowedentity7097]

I remember I broke my footed mount. I was pretty much told by Luna cycle at that time essentially only way I was getting that mount any time soon was by buying a whole new bike. Early surron days lol

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

Pretty wild, luckily the market has been catching up a lot especially on new bikes. We make sure that part support is available in the U.S. otherwise we will not support a bike

[@hollowedentity7097]

@@ChargedCycleWorks luckily I got that snazzy new ex800 coming from you guys. Staff was super helpful. It’s appreciated to deal with a chill vibed staff.

[@markfletcher_atx]

What do you think the recommendations will be for the MX5? Do you know much about the Sigma suspension? Will it "need" suspension upgrades?

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

Currently in the process of sorting suspension on the MX5 as well as Altis Sigma. Both bikes run the same wheels and similar suspension. We will likely see a new wave of suspension variant to fit these bikes. The Altis in its initial testing has been quite soft, the version that will be released will have better internals and spring rates to fix that issue. Testing on that bike is coming soon.

[@ryanrodriguez70]

ohlins, and don't listen to this shit he doesn't include the b best fork on the market

[@Crohniac]

@@ryanrodriguez70 what fork?

[@BrianLampright913]

MX5 has a different hub, not MTB so it’s going to take some time for the aftermarket to make options that fit.

[@BrianLampright913]

@@ryanrodriguez70ohlins are hard to source which one?

[@MrMagicman876]

Great video! Do the fast aces fit a x3?

[@Sherman1862]

I'm 190 -200 lbs with riding gear and Camelbak full... I was going to buy the Fast Ace and the Warp 9 Triple Clamp for my E Ride SS Pro... I manly do trail riding and enduro, no crazy jumps. What spring rate do you think I should get? Thank you!

[@billsouza9487]

Lets go with the MX5

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

In the process of sorting out what parts fit best on that bike. Suspension is a big question mark at the moment due to it being quite different

[@Talaria567]

Fastace’s website shows the gravitee and the original ALX fork being the same length. Could you show them side by side or provide actual measurements for the two?

[@nzcaddis]

I've got a Talaria with KTM 85 forks and 18/21 wheels on it and I don't agree with what you said. I'm 6'4" and 250 lb and getting my KTM85 forks resprung and revalved means that the bike actually handles on the rough, rocky tracks that I ride. And the front brake is WAY better than the stock. I haven't found the geometry issues that big of a deal for me with a bit of experimentation.

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

The Talaria as mentioned in the video is the best of the bikes to accommodate this fork due to it being stink bugged in stock form, but a 4 inch geometry change is a significant amount that effects the head tube angle drastically. Luckily the talarias frame is quite strong but at the end of the day, if you are comfortable and enjoy riding the bike that’s all that really matters.

[@nzcaddis]

@@ChargedCycleWorks I think it's important to note that most of these bikes are designed for shorter/lighter riders. For a lot of riders, most forks are an option, but for tall/heavy riders the good options are more limited. For me, the 85 forks were a great solution

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

@@nzcaddis That's definitely what's cool about these bikes. The capability to make them work for nearly everyone!

[@Tristin-hp8ow]

@@ChargedCycleWorks What do you mean by "stink bugged". I ride mtb normally and i feel like i never hear any body talk about the geometry of these bikes a whole lot. Like an XC bike is way steeper and front heavy than a DH bike which has a long and slack front end. I wondered if surrons had more motocross style geometry than a talaria which might be more front leaning and street like?

[@BrianLampright913]

@@Tristin-hp8owit means the rear of the bike sits higher than the front and forces weight forward which can be especially bad on low quality suspension that cannot support the weight. In motocross we make front/rear height adjustments measured in millimeters which is why moving a bike’s front ended by multiple inches can be a nightmare for steering geometry.

[@jaredsand3841]

Will the w9 clamps fit the KKE 37mm fork? Also can stiffer springs be installed?

[@spaceinyourplace9242]

Great video. So FastAce Gravitee AHX12RV is better in any case than Fastace ALX13RC?

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

A custom tuned ALX13RC is better in our opinion because it’s tuned for the riding you’d be doing however we like the chassis of the AHX and are working on the tune for that

[@spaceinyourplace9242]

@@ChargedCycleWorks I see but I meant without tunning. In this case AHX is better, correct?

[@Electric666s]

What ones of these forks are not the same legs and stanchions? Most seem the same and some even the same crowns with that weird signature threaded hole on side of lower crowns.

[@jondonut1810]

Only the manitou is the only where you can set your sag

[@roberto-ro2nr]

@ChargedCycleWorks If you were to rank all of these front forks, from the best-performing to the worst-performing, how would you organize them purely based on performance, without considering the cost of the fork?

[@balutraildog6692]

Thx dude

[@MousePad9]

I have a Talaria Sting R and I broke the fork so I think I'm gonna get a Fastace fork but I'm not sure if I should get the 50lbs or 60lbs spring. I'm only 120lbs but I do some jumping and the stock forks bottom out every time so I want something a lot stiffer than those but I'm not sure if the 60lbs would be too stiff

[@MousePad9]

I'm also not sure if I should get a tuned fastace 2.0 or the new gravitee one

[@Surronblake]

best shock for motocross? I’ve been looking at the vonkat ten five

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

The EXT arma is nice for motocross with the hydraulic bottom out control that they have implemented. If you want some serious strength, the YSS is a good one. The Vonkat has always been a dependable choice

[@OneGuyOnCod]

Hey if you can reply that would be sweet, I got them fast ace forks on my talaria and I they have a bad leak, where can I replace the seal? I can’t find it

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

@@OneGuyOnCod search “FastAce seal” on our website. Get the SKF version 🤌

[@coopaloop013]

Which fork would you recommend for an eride pro ss as a 6’0 240lbs rider?

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

Either the FastAce Heavy Tune or the EXT Ferro, The EXT can get the air chambers up to support your weight

[@coopaloop013]

Thank you!

[@yho12]

Missing the best of the group, the volar sport tech fork

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

The Volar sport tech fork is actually a Formula Tech fork, we will be testing this soon as mentioned in the video

[@Crohniac]

would you still not recommend a fox40 for someone weighing 130lbs?

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

Rider weight is less of the issue, the fork is not designed for an emoto, they are not built for the additional bike weight.

[@Crohniac]

@@ChargedCycleWorks i get that but whats the difference between a surron and a 130lb rider and a 35lb mtn bike with a 230lb rider

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

@@Crohniac Different and heavier wheel, Higher speeds, more wheel inertia in both the front and rear, lower center of mass. Putting a 200lb and above rider on any sort of mtb suspension including a downhill mtb starts to get into a high strain scenario. If you look at riders like NRML mountain biker, he's a large dude who often times talks about the suspension difficulties that he has. You also lose dampening characteristic by adding that much weight. Often times people will add tokens to the fox 40, but running high air pressure and tokens gets rid of any small bump compliance and makes the fork extremely stiff for anything but a Jump. However you still do not want to jump large jumps with the added weight of the bike leading to a higher potential of mechanical failure in the light weight aluminum components. If you look at the structure of a dirt bike or a mountain bike the front fork is a vital 1/3 of its chassis. A 4lb full aluminum fork is not the ideal move for the front portion of your chassis. It works well when a downhill mtb is only roughly 30 lbs but that is also what the fork is engineered for. It has been advised by Fox suspension that they are not liable for damage or any caused by somebody running this fork on their bike. Without that claim its a lawsuit waiting to happen with the failure rate of these forks on Emoto's

[@Crohniac]

@@ChargedCycleWorks thanks for the detailed response! what would u remember for a lighter rider like me

[@ChargedCycleWorks]

@@Crohniac What style of riding do you do?

[@lapkazaika]

My eride pro ss comes from factory with Fastace ALX13RC 2.0.

[@robertfowler2115]

Same but the spring rate is way too low from factory.

[@mischifischi]

How do i find out if its the 2.0 version?

[@mischifischi]

​@@robertfowler2115this only can be changed if you change the spring to a stiffer one am i correct?

[@dmxkdv]

I have ktm 85 fork) And I'm happy.) Muy bike sur ron x ))

[@eldimarioche]

The fastace ***13rc fork has disgusting seals! They leak every 3 months, I do not recommend buying them!!!

[@144AMP]

but its easy to fix it by replacing with SKF or ariete seals. It worth for deal as for me.

[@oxymoronadventures3826]

Can I get a sponsor 🙌 watching this with 13 year old Fox 40s on my Sur Ron.