Mak 180 owner here. You can eliminate the need for cool down and greatly reduce dew by adding a layer of insulation on the outside of the tube. The distortion from cool down comes from the formation of eddy currents in the tube which are a result of (relatively) rapid cool down. Slowing cool down reduces these dramatically and keeps the meniscus warm enough to inhibit dew.
@AstroForumSpace2 жыл бұрын
Good advice, thanks!
@TylerMillhouse2 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace :) Thanks for an excellent video as always, Wido!
@Devlinator611164 жыл бұрын
Finally, a "best telescopes for planets" list that actually compares the best telescopes for planets, but not a bunch of $100 to $300 entry-level telescopes.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe!
@Jellyman11292 жыл бұрын
The Maksutov-Cassegrain has a smaller aperture, but makes up for it by having only 26% secondary mirror obstruction. This basically gives you the same aperture surface area as the other Cassegrains and makes it FEEL like an 8”.
@akmcff4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always mate, I'm always watching your content as my first go-to for help/guidance with my purchases! Thanks for making these videos, truly the best on the internet at these types of videos, thanks again.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thank you do much Andrew and sorry for the late reply. Hope you have some clear skies!
@sorinsandu4513 жыл бұрын
man, i didn't reach the final of the clip and i am already enlightened by your explanations. thanks a lot!
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and feel free to ask more info if needed!
@robertwallace6324 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You always explain everything so clearly. Love watching your Vlogs.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert, clear skies!
@Gunalizer3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Meade LX65 and LX85 SCTs. Same 200mm ACF optics of the LX200 that are lighter at 5kg and cost less. They have no mirror lock and have the lighter vixen dovetail. I own the LX85. Great telescope so far.
@88mixture884 жыл бұрын
Good discussion and you arrived at my conclusion for a planetary telescope, the classic Cassegrain. You might also want to include the Ritchey-Chrétien Cassegrain but that gets more expensive.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! RC's are great for deepsky but have a large obstruction of the secondary mirror making them somewhat less suited for planetary imaging.
@dhkd74114 жыл бұрын
Thank you .... one of the best Astrophotography KZbinrs (my opinion )
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words.
@AndyinMokum3 жыл бұрын
My Sky-Watcher Skymax 102 is a dew magnet. It's a splendid little Mak; however, it hates the Amsterdam humidity. I made my own dew shield for it. I had an old 10mm thick foam camping mattress. I measured and with a craft knife, cut a strip 20cm x 45cm to wrap around the tube. A 1/3 of it covers the length of the tube. The rest extends in front of the tube, like a lens hood. It's held together with velcro strips. The little Mak is now Amsterdam proofed. I've had the scope out for hours and hours and I've experienced no dew on the corrector plate. it's a really cheap and effective solution, to a really annoying problem. The mattresses, can be bought at military surplus shops, (legerdump) for next to nothing. Sewing shops have self adhesive velcro. I did help sticking the velcro to the foam, with some contact cement. I've enough foam leftover, to make many more dew shields for additional telescopes too.
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Andy, I might try to make one myself as my dewshield is only 50% effective.
@lennert85303 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video! Thank you very much! I think one thing you have left outside of your considerations for this comparison is contrast. I've read that SC telescopes excell in that regard which is probably where they beat the classic cassegrain. It would be really interesting to do a side by side comparison between a classic cassegrain and an SC with otherwise similar specs.
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lennert, I made this video one year ago. AFter that, I bought a CC but couldn't get it collimated. After a couple of frustrating nights, I decided to go for the Edge HD 8". It came collimated out of the box, and produces nice, high contrast images of the night sky. You can find my latest review on that scope here, perhaps useful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIrPgqlnZtRpeqc
@lennert85303 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I will check it out, thank you!
@gronki12 жыл бұрын
Most SCTs actually have poorer contrast compared to Maks or even Newtonians. They excel in their compactness which allows to build small instruments with large aperture, and their short cooling time comparted to Maks.
@joeydesmond77454 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the celestron hd edge for planets. And I'm going to get the reducer for Galaxys and small nebula
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Good choice, clear skies!
@Nottsboy244 жыл бұрын
Fantastic choice! clear skies and all the best 😊
@mathersdavid51134 жыл бұрын
Very well presented video. I think the main issue with central obstructions in the disruption of the light wavefront due to diffraction, rather than simply shading the primary.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Aha, thanks for the info. I'll look into it. Clear skies David!
@adriannowik4 жыл бұрын
Very clear , Greetings from Buenos Aires !!!
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@michaelsutherland85483 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t include a stable mount as a Must Have. The best scopes are just frustrating on a wobbly mount.
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. I've made separate videos about mounts like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/boSxdX6ElKyniKM. Perhaps I should also make a video to discuss whole astrophotography setups (mount, telescope and camera). Cheers.
@guyjordan82012 жыл бұрын
A late comment here but, one of the benefits of the SCT and Macsutov are is correction of aberrations that the classic Cassegrain generates. So image quality I think should be a criteria. Certainly there’s a threshold, I believe the edge of frame is worse in the classic Cassegrain, but it’s worth a consideration.
@tuunaes2 жыл бұрын
It's the opposite: Classical Cassegrains use aberrations better controlling parabolic and hyperbolic mirrors. SCT/MCT use "cost downed" simplest optical surface spherical mirrors causing spherical aberration, with corrective element needed to counter that. Neither does SCT give exactly good wide view: Both Celestron and Meade have models with extra optics to improve off center image quality for photography. But anyway professional wide angle astrophotography often uses Ritchey-Chretien Cassegrain with also primary mirror being hyperbolic.
@guyjordan82012 жыл бұрын
@@tuunaes - RC yes but SCT is similar enough and less touchy for alignment
@bonbondojoe15224 жыл бұрын
Very infomative video! Personally I prefer aperture over focal length since you can buy a 2x or 3x (or even 5x) barlow lens but you cant increase the aperture of a telescope
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can uderstand that. Especially since it drives down the cost. That's why I've included the newtonian reflector as an example. Clear skies!
@justincace5517 Жыл бұрын
In my short experience, you need both for planetary clarity. Without slowing it down, even with a 3X Barlow (no one uses 5x after 1 or 2 tries - let's be honest) you lose clarity. Of course, you could use a sensor and then slow it digitally, but I am speaking of optics. My home made steam punk looking 8" 750mm with a 7mm 1.25" eyepiece sees Saturn (and 4 moons) as well as Jupiter (and 3 moons) and even Mars (3x Barlow + 7mm) however, it's SO FAST that I can't resolve any detail. I can see witch head Nebula very clear, and can resolve clouds with my eye in Orion Nebula with a 40mm PlossL. However, my eBay-mirror, refurbished Mead 110 x 900mm with a Celestron 12.5x and 3x Barlow can resolve the rings of Saturn VERY easily. I have tried using a restrictor to slow down the scope and adding a long "dew shield" but nothing seems to slow down the 207mm. @Wido's AstroForum has a video about it.
@Tim_the_Astronurd4 жыл бұрын
I just received the Orion 8" newtonian reflector today! I thought maybe Id try a little planetary, but its mainly for deep sky. One thing about it is its very fast at F/3.9, even faster than my spacecat. I may have to look into a 2x barlow and see if I can do a bit of planets also!
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
I think you can Demitri! Hope you'll be able to catch our beautiful planets. Clear skies.
@jPaulofe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great and detailed video!!
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. By the way: I finally decided on an edge hd 8". It's more expensive but gives me excellent views. See other videos on my channel. Clear skies!
@aroxchannel2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you!
@timurhant4694 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and greetings to my favorite city, Utrecht , in the Netherlands
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! Did you visit Utrecht or do you live here?
@timurhant4694 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I visited Utrecht several times. I used to live at the Dutch border on the German side and been everywhere on the Dutch soil. Love that place!
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
@@timurhant469 aha, great! You're always welcome (when the pandemic is gone).
@timurhant4694 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Very nice of you thanks!!! Have a lovely weekend
@eottoe20012 жыл бұрын
Amen on #5 !
@GarnettLeary4 жыл бұрын
Cool video idea. I personally love Maksutovs. I want a bigger one than is made lol.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
You and me both! I tried polar alignment with an F/12. that was a pain in the behind...:-).
@ishanr86973 жыл бұрын
I went with a 254mm dobsonian. 3200 RMB (around $500): cheaper, bigger aperture and smaller obstruction than the others plus no corrector plate. An extra $250 went on a 5x power mate and I now have a scope that can give me 6350mm focal length which I can use with my Mirrorless camera to get close-up planetary shots. At 1270mm I can see the full moon in frame with ease which isn't the case with any of the 2000mm+ scopes. Drawbacks: portability (1.3m tube), weight (11kg). For the price though, very hard to beat. Planetary cam + 2x Barlow instead of powermate for even cheaper route!
@kevinashley4782 жыл бұрын
Hey, I see your comment is a year old. I hope you still watch this, lol. Is your scope good for visual as well as being good for imaging? The only way I am gonna be able to drop the money I need to, and NOT have my wife divorce me on the spot, is if I can have a set up for her to look through and see things while I'm imaging on my setup.
@ishanr86972 жыл бұрын
@@kevinashley478 Dobsonians are fantastic for visual- hard to find better for the money. Imaging is probably planetary only- you'd need an equatorial mount for deep sky objects. If you get go-to dob, that will cost quite a bit more, and will improve the planetary imaging and visual usage, but still not good for deep sky photography becasue of field rotation.
@kevinashley4782 жыл бұрын
@@ishanr8697 awesome. Thank you for replying. I will see what I can find in the dobsonian category.
@smashtime19044 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on telescope eyepieces?
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Buy a camera :-). I'm not using eyepieces so I can't help you there unfortunately.
@Boekoe124 жыл бұрын
I use the N200/1000 for deep space, haven’t take a picture yet. But you have to align the mirrors so many times during the night due to temperature decrease.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm learning how to do this and noticed that collimation and focus vary between nights.
@TIGER-rx8gt4 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but I heard that you should have your telescope out side for about 4 hours before you do your viewing. It's got something to do with having the telescope at the same temperature
@Boekoe124 жыл бұрын
@@TIGER-rx8gt hmm okey, i mostly have it set up 2 hours before polar allignment (so around 10 oclock). Sometimes even earlier. And then the mirror alignment at 12, but at 1 oclock or sometimes even earlier the alignment is already wrong.
@thefirstandroiduser69564 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am also looking for a suitable telescope for planetary imaging. And my favorite here would also be the Cassegrain. One thing: For planets and the moon, it would be a big advantage if the telescope can work in the infrared range that is less affected by seeing conditions. That would be another plus point for the Cassegrain, it has only mirrors and no glass elements that can block infrared. But: Cassegrains suffer from coma! It doesn't matter for planets, but if you want to take a picture of a small deep sky object with the device, the stars don't look nice anymore. The alternative would be a fully corrected telescope like the TS-Optics 8 inch Ritchey-Chrétien Pro. In terms of price, it is almost the same. Disadvantage of this telescope: Collimating is probably quite a challenge. I am curious to see which type of telescope you choose. Many Greetings from Hamburg :-)
@SnaxxNZGaming4 жыл бұрын
A classic cas will have the same collimation disadvantage as an RC as you still need to adjust both the primary and secondary when collimation, and may even need a Collimation Ring / Tilt Adapter to get the focuser inline. (I own an 8" GSO RC and use it for my planatery images).
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Hi both, thanks for your insights. Just an update from my side, I spent the last two nights trying to collimate a classical cassegrain, it is very challenging for me. Hope to make some videos on that as well. Clear skies!
@SnaxxNZGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace What did you use to collimate? When I did my RC I use a takahashi scope and my guide cam attached to the end so I could view it in sharpcap (you don't need the camera, it just make its easier to see your adjustments). I don't know if this applies to the classic cas but with the RC it helps to remove the baffle from inside the tube so you can see the reflections of the spider on the secondary. This helps with adjusting the primary. If you have small enough hands you can just reach inside the 8" and unscrew it and gently let it rest inside the tube (but don't forget to re-attach it before moving the tube)
@urmymusemusic48254 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I have an RC and have never been able to collimate it properly ... I thought it was just me who struggles with this aspect
@kenn79154 жыл бұрын
You left out another Schmidt-Cassegrain...the Celestron 9.25. I use a 180mm Maksutov scope, so I don't have to deal with collimation as much if ever.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I left out the 9.25 due to price range, but its a great scope for planetary of course.
@kenn79154 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace You can spend an additional $300.00 dollars U.S. for the 9.25. You will not be happy with the 8".
@oscarfernandez84774 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much im a beginner and my goal is to see planets and i was not sure of buying a refractor!
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Oscar.
@NineTailedW0lf4 жыл бұрын
The biggest advantage for a corrector plate? Well, no significant star spikes when photographing stars.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this info!
@SnaxxNZGaming4 жыл бұрын
This was about planetary so probably wasn't a major consideration.
@mobsterduck83154 жыл бұрын
SnaxxNZGaming some people like to have at least some dual purpose when buying a multi hundred dollar telescope. I understand SCTs aren’t the best for deep sky but they are good for a lot of objects out there.
@nxu51074 жыл бұрын
Not only that because of the corrector plate you can take out middle bit and stick a camera there for a very fast refractor is it called faster? Best
@DrShout3 жыл бұрын
Now I know you removed the Evostar 150/1200 Apochromatic refractor from your list based on price, but how would it have compared in the standing regarding the categories and requirements (other than price) to the other in this video. I would rather postpone my purchase in order to save a little more to get something that I would let be happy with, planetary viewing and photography.
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
Hi Don, I released a new video on planetary telescopes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raKqlq2ar5J5eLs perhaps useful.
@abhimanyusingh25724 жыл бұрын
Hi Wido, As always a very nice and informative video! :) I wanted to ask, what would be a better choice between a 127/1200 achromatic refractor and a 127/1900 Maksutov Cassegrain considering both solar system and deep space photography and observation? I had almost made up my mind for a big Newtonian (8" or 10" aperture) but as a first scope I want something which is not too bulky.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
The MAK is Nice for planets but too slow for deepsky. The achromat is faster but will show false colours and will still be somewhat slow. Don't know your budget but perhaps a nice widefield ed or apo refractor?
@abhimanyusingh25724 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Thanks for the input! One more question in that regard. Is ED Hexafoc any good compared to ED APO? I see that ED hexafoc is a lot cheaper compared to ED APO. Budget wise I don't want to go beyond 1000 euros but since I am in India I dont get the same options as EU/US and some of the items have huge import taxes.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
@@abhimanyusingh2572 Hi, "hexafoc" refers to the focuser, not the glass of the refractor. ED stands for extra dispersion glass, which greatly improves colors. Always check if the refractor is an ED doublet - two glasses - or triplet - three glasses. triplets have the best color calibration but are also heavier and more expensive. APO usually refers to 3 glasses, but always check this. Good luck!
@abhimanyusingh25724 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Thanks a lot. You're the best! :)
@Darth9094 жыл бұрын
The LX200 with the ultra high transmission coatings and hyperbolic secondary mirror (semi-Richtey Chretien) May have the overall best optics of the group.
@xyrus3454 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the LX 65 series wasn't covered here. The 8" ACF tube is under $1000, and supposedly lighter so the LX 65 mount can handle it better.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
I took the LX200 as it is much liked among astronomers, but the LX65 (and 85) are also interesting. I wanted some between brand variation. Perhaps a good idea to do within brand comparisons as well. Clear skies.
@snehaborkar51214 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about buying a telescope for deep space study ....& U explained it so nicely. Thank u
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thnx for the nice feedback!
@nigelsmales36284 жыл бұрын
Nice comparision video. I too am considering something similar so that has helped a lot...thanks. 👍
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Great, glad I could help.
@baszonneveld77404 жыл бұрын
Helpfull vid Wido!.....Still i'm a galaxy and nebula lover and use a RC 6" for that.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@johnsmith-qc8ud4 жыл бұрын
Great videos, dude! There's one caveat, you're probably missing about secondary mirror obstruction: you show linear obstruction in the spreadsheet, i.e. obstruction by diameter. If the 33-34% light obstruction would be true, you could cover the whole primary with 3 secondary mirrors, which is obviously not enough :) The light collection power as you could expect is proportional to the area which is in turn proportional to the square of diameter. So the real theoretical obstruction will be for example 0.31*0.31=0.096 or 9.6%. Celestron's official page proves this fact by declaring for their C8: "Secondary Mirror Obstruction by Area 9.77%". So the absolute overall impact is not that great as your spreadsheet says. The relative obstruction loss between the tubes will also be a bit lower, but not that much.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation John!
@gronki12 жыл бұрын
I do not think it is actually the matter. The mater in planetary imaging is that the secondary obstruction impacts how the Airy disk appears: the larger the obstruction, the more energy is dispersed into Airy rings, rather than the central spot. This makes little difference during good conditions, but in bad observing conditions makes the image way more suspicible to seeing.
@tuunaes2 жыл бұрын
Planetary viewing is about resolution and in that it's the diameter of obstruction which matters. And in corrector lens using Cassegrains (Schmidt/Maksutov) actual obstruction is bigger than secondary mirror size, because of secondary mirror's being surrounded by "baffle" tube/cone. Also because of usually viewed planets being quite bright, reflecting of light from tube walls (to mirror) should be minimized by either baffles or flocking.
@johnsmith-qc8ud2 жыл бұрын
@@tuunaes resolution is about how far the farthest points of the mirror are from each other, or simply diameter. Obstruction harms the light collecting power, not resolution.
@johnsmith-qc8ud2 жыл бұрын
....If of course you obstruct the central part of mirror, not the outer.
@starlust.4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, thanks :) Which telescope are you going to purchase then?
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, thanks! The CC 8" F/12., I'm having a hard time collimating the telescope. Will make videos on this so stay tuned :-)!
@bassoon21184 жыл бұрын
Cassegrain images have spikes - what about the Skywatcher 190 Maksutov Newtonian an apochromatic equal to a £20,000 six inch Takahashi
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
I'm willing to test these out if someone can afford it and send me one :-)
@MrKA19614 жыл бұрын
for photographic use is ok, but for visual it has too much central obstruction.
@rodrigobustamantevaz85554 жыл бұрын
Very good video! I have a vintage D 75 mm, F 1200 mm Unitron telescope (1957) with 6 eyepieces from 4 to 25 mm. It is in relatively good working conditions. I am wondering if it would be a good idea to buy new very good quality eyepieces and a barlow eyepiece too. Would that really make a difference in the planetary and some other space objects viewing? Or perhaps keep the old telescope and save some money to buy a new one for home astronomy observation and photography? Would appreciate any suggestions, clear skyes for you all!
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rodrigo, thanks you for your kind feedback. It depends a bit on what you want to do visual versus photography. If you want to get into astrophotography, you'll need a couple of things...a decent equatorial mount to accurately track the stars, a DSLR or dedicated astrophotography camera and a telescope that preferably doesn't suffer from chromatic abberation and such. I wrote a blog about the steps you may want to take to get into astrophotography, perhaps useful: astroforumspace.com/seven-essential-steps-to-start-astrophotography/. Clear skies!
@rodrigobustamantevaz85554 жыл бұрын
AstroForum Thank you very much for your kind and prompt reply. Do you think for visual observation (not astro photography) the image will improve reasonably with good quality eyepieces and barlow using my old Unitron telescope? In the new refractor telescopes, the triplet lens go only in the eyepieces or also in the main lens? My two sons are studying in Netherlands. Best regards from Costa Rica
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigobustamantevaz8555 Pura vida:-)! For visual astronomy I think some high quality eyepieces are good enough. You may want to consider a two lens doublet with extra dispersion glass. They have good color correction and are mas barato qué Los APO triplet refractors. Buen dia y cielos despejados :-).
@rodrigobustamantevaz85554 жыл бұрын
AstroForum thank you very much for your professional advice! Muchas gracias amigo! Pura vida!
@kmpsgarage82264 жыл бұрын
Hello from North-Holland (Schagen region). Great Video! Since I watched the sky through my binoculairs last week I have gotten more excited about Astronomy and possibly Astrofotography.. I have watched a few videos since on KZbin, and saw a lot of people stacking hundreds of images to get an impressive end-result. My question now is, when looking with just my eye through for example the Classic Cassegrain telescope, how much detail will I see from let's say Jupiter and Saturn.. Can you link an example maybe? My second question is, which mount would you suggest with these telescopes? Is there a good price/quality equatorial mount you can suggest? Thank you in advance and keep up the good work!
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Hallo :-) and thanks. You will get a decent view of jupiter and saturn if your focal length is about 2000mm or higher. I have another video where I explain how you can exactly calculate your field of view for astronomical objects, depending on your camera and telescope here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnqpnqCkabCXl68. I'm working on some videos to actually show you in real life, stay tuned and I hope I can deliver on your question soon. And this is a blog and video on "beginner level mounts" for astrophotography: astroforumspace.com/category/getting_started_astrophotography/ Good luck and enjoy the hobby :-)!
@kmpsgarage82264 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Thank you! There are just so many possibilities and choices one can make trying to find the right telescope and mount.. it's easy to get completely lost when you're new into astronomie.. XD
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
I know. That's why I make my videos and blogs.. I hope they are somewhat useful for those who want to get into this hobby. Cheers.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
@@kmpsgarage8226 en uuhm als je Nederlands spreekt dan kan dat ook natuurlijk :-). Als je vragen hebt, stel ze gerust. Groetjes! Mooi trouwens dat je in Schagen woont. De hemel is daar vast een stuk donkerder.
@terrybrooks3954 жыл бұрын
Bresser Messier MC-127/1900, 3.7kg, less than 400eu, not sure why you included the Newtonian in the comparison?
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry. The Newtonian has an 8" aperture which, combined with the barlow would meet the criteria I mention in the first part of the video. Clear skies!
@terrybrooks3954 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Sorry, didn't hear you metion the barlow
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
@@terrybrooks395 no problem Terry, clear skies.
@Nottsboy244 жыл бұрын
Nice upload ☺🔭
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mwales21124 жыл бұрын
What is the big difference between the Schmidt and Maksutov Cassegrain telescopes? Which would be better for planetary or deep sky astro photography? Thank you
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
The MAK has a longer focal length (=higher magnification) and a meniscus plate with a small secondary mirror. I would say maybe slightly better for planetary than the SC's but I'm in the process of testing this out myself.
@mwales21124 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Look forward to hearing your results.. Thank you
@Sk8Mehdi11 ай бұрын
Hello , did the RC are good for planetary and had a similary aperture of makzutov 180 😅? Im a dobsonian passionate … i have a 10 inch and 16 inch ! But the difference for the profound skies and planetary its an RC or classic cassegrain like GSO ? What difference ?
@Sk8Mehdi11 ай бұрын
Good for visual too ?
@AstroForumSpace11 ай бұрын
I returned the RC as it was very hard to collimate. I now own a celestron edge HD, an astromodified SCT, much easier to collimate and long focal length.
@Sk8Mehdi11 ай бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace the ritchey chretien is very similary’s dobsonian collimation ! Dobsonian are hard to collimate too ;) !
@Sk8Mehdi11 ай бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace so SCT or makzutov for me ? I do know if will buy both ? 😮😂
@One1Raptor4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Been looking at the SW skymax180. Do you think a EQ5 with SynScan would support this telescope?
@amp2amp8003 жыл бұрын
If that's what you've got, it will (just) manage, but it will be at the weight limit. If you are still shopping, I'd advise an EQ6.
@phmuller4 жыл бұрын
Is Coma an issue only for DSO or Planetary as well?
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Hi philipp, with planetary this is less of an issue I would say, as you will be shooting videos with short exposures - entirely different from deepsky long exposure astrophotography. All the best.
@konfey31984 жыл бұрын
Kijk ook naar rc telescopen. Zijn een van de beste die je kan kopen en die telescopen voldoen ook aan je punten. Je zal dan wel moeten gaan voor een focal length van ong 1400
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
I didn't include RC telescopes. They are very good for deepsky, but have a large secondary mirror which makes them less suitable for planetary imaging as compared to the telescopes in the overview. Thanks.
@konfey31984 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace no problem👍
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
@@konfey3198 zijn goede telescopen hoor. Ik moest een keuze maken anders zit ik uren te kletsen en daar zitten mensen denk ik ook niet op te wachten :-).
@konfey31984 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace hahahaha snap ik😂👍
@Brian.0015 ай бұрын
Note: Percentage obstruction of secondary mirrors is expressed here as percentage of the diameter, not the area.
@Seafox00114 жыл бұрын
... one thing to note with the range of Classic Cassegrains on offer the TS version has quartz 'glass' for both primary and secondary mirrors - so is a bit more expensive (approx 100€) than the Omegon variation at base price without discounts. Having quartz 'glass' offers the least flex as temperature changes - so effectively the 'fastest' cool down period too. The thermal coefficient of the 'pyrex' alternatives is not as good - so cheaper glass = cheaper telescope.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding this info Seafox. At present, I'm having a very hard time with this scope. The primary is out of alignment and this is the first time I'm collimating a classical cassegrain. I might need to buy some tools beyond the chesire piece that I've bought with the scope.Clear skies!
@Bogfra14 жыл бұрын
Sorry I was again too quick for a comment you did indeed report that the import costs are there for something in between that the prices are higher here
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
No problem! I like to interact, ask or write anything you want to share. Cheers.
@dgdave26733 ай бұрын
I like your reviews usually, but this is not a good one by any measure. You missed the ioptron / Bosma MAK 150mm that has 1800mm FL at f12 which is a RuMak type with fantastic dual speed focuser, clarity of a good 5” APO refractor for under $800. Comes with a good dew shield. Intes scopes too, but may be more expensive.
@AstroForumSpace3 ай бұрын
This review is 4 years old....2020!
@TIGER-rx8gt4 жыл бұрын
What telescope do you suggest for £500+ for viewing only ie not really astrophotography but good for looking?
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
I started with this one, a celestron 102slt. It has a goto mount that automatically finds objects for you in the night sky and a nice achromat that is good enough for visual (not photography) bit.ly/300lItW. Clear skies
@miodragpetkovic61423 жыл бұрын
Bravo.
@pepijnjansen38124 жыл бұрын
C8 obstruction is only 1% down on the classic cassegrain. So either both a star or neither. 1% is neglectable.
@rejithnr4 жыл бұрын
When you say 500$ ;it is around 38000 INR .But the reality is that amount will have a multiplication factor in India (3 or 4) . The very next possible thing is " Forget astronomy and get in to Photography". me- Proud owner of a crop sensor mirror less.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Yes, astrophotography, unfortunately, is an expensive hobby. You can try to cut down costs by choosing a newtonian reflector and perhaps a used but good EQ mount. Clear skies Rejith!
@lmanna Жыл бұрын
The Ttitle of the video is somewhat misleading. It's not "viewing" but "photographing" planets. The best views of planets are achieved with refractors. Best views through an eyepiece of Jupiter and Saturn I ever experienced was with a Zeiss 150mm f/17 refractor (achromat if you can believe that) in the stady airs of Southern California. Yes the view through only 6" was better that any Newtonian and Cassegrain of much larger size. We also compared it with the "rejected" scope, the Evostar 6" refractor ... superb telescope, a tad inferior then the Zeiss. If you're into high-res planetary "Photography" then that's another discussion.
@kevinashley4782 жыл бұрын
So what would you consider to be the best visual telescope?
@AstroForumSpace2 жыл бұрын
A big aperture schmidt cassegrain telescope:-)
@valdislav882 ай бұрын
Let's take a normal look at things. so. I recently bought a 10-inch newton for ~$700 and it has: 1. The focus is 1200, but with the help of Barlow, I can easily increase it as much as 5400mm. to consider a 1200mm focus as a disadvantage is stupid! star 2. The aperture is 255mm, which is larger for all the considered STARS 3. 25% central shielding (63mm diagonal on the minor axis) which is less for all the considered STARS 4. There is no corrector STAR 5. The same good 2-inch 2-speed crayford allows you to accurately focus the STAR. 6. Yes, he weighs quite a bit 15 kg. but for me it turned out not to be a problem. 7. Length 1100mm 8. yes, you need to check the collimation periodically. 9. the price is $ 700 . So, 6/9! and you only scored the classic cassegrain 4/9. that's why I took Newton, and I'm happy as an elephant)))
@Tzebra294 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm using the SW 200/1000 for deep-sky and moon imaging. My daughter has a Skymax 150/1800 and i can only say that this OTA is a dream for the moon, jupiter, saturn and even venus.
@AstroForumSpace4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Serge, clear skies!
@MrKA19614 жыл бұрын
Schmidt Casegrains ar no good for viewing planets, they have huge central obstructions, they give softened, blurry images. However, large aperture like 9,25" or higher SC scopes can give reasonable images for planets. But 8"??? Nope. The only good scope mentioned above that really excels for planetary viewing is Skywatcher 180 Mak-Cass. It has small central obstruction and reasonable aperture. A good long focus Newtonian is also good for planets, I have a Skywatcher 150/1200 it is a good planetary scope for reasonable price. A 200/1200 would be still OK. Faster newtonians like the one mentioned in the video (200/1000) is no good for planets because of large its secondary mirror and small F/diam ratio Wanna see planets? Buy a long focus achromatic refractor or an apochromatic one. Or an Intes Maksutov-newtonian, if you ar not a beginner and have lots of $$$. It costs a lot of money, but planetary viewing is not a cheap hobby.
@amp2amp8003 жыл бұрын
Best comment award from me!
@Yoda23 жыл бұрын
Sorry Utrecht but your ORION 180MM MAKSUTOV 180mm (Amazon) is not selling for $1000 USD, it is now selling $2,200 USD
@AstroForumSpace3 жыл бұрын
Check: bit.ly/2YXiIAs
@Yoda23 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Thank you, i did see that used Mak for $1275. Still, it's not the $1,000 youre showing for new ones. I'm not complaining, just noting that the prices I see and hear from KZbin channels (like Ed Ting) are always unrealistically low. ? Even though your pricing was 15 months old, the $1,000 new Mak went to $2,200 in that time. Prices are skyrocketing and supplies are low. What's happening?
@Andrew9323 жыл бұрын
Turn on, zoom in and drop out
@magicaltwig4 жыл бұрын
Decent video, you need to invest in a half decent microphone.