Best TSS Turkey Ammo - 7 Brands Tested!

[@Snailz5]

Obviously we NEED a “Best Choke for Herter’s TSS” video. It’s better than the other store brands at a lower cost and with less payload (recoil). I’d also love to see Longbeard 1 7/8 #6 vs. Herter’s once the best choke is figured out. Best and most expensive lead vs. cheapest TSS. A common choice many face in the turkey load aisle.

[@burkejones8277]

I been thinking about that myself. I have come to the following conclusions: 1. I don’t think it is a very good comparison between TSS and lead. TSS will win by pellet count alone. 2. I don’t think I will ever shoot anything but LBXR in a 12 gauge. 3. Herter’s hits hard!! But I know lots of folks who shoot TSS in 12 gauges. I shoot it in a 20 gauge.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I plan to! I just didn't want to spend any more on ammo for turkey test videos this spring lol.

[@rodneyharouff5739]

i ain't payn' that kind'a money for a shotgun shell. period the end. i'm a 12 ga 3" #5 longbeard man now. started with winchester xx magnum, then win. hi velocity. both good. 4-6 pellets in bone about every time @ 40. good enough till longbeard put in 11.@@burkejones8277

[@davemuli2711]

George, another great video. I have been hunting for 33 years and you have provided some incredible data. I load my own TSS shells and now have your penetration data to support my pattern density. I am subscribed and enjoy every video. 👍🇨🇦

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!

[@terryclark9603]

I have been hunting for over 60 years. I have been working on Firearms knowing what I am going for over 40 years. The length of a barrel the choke of the barrel the feet per second of shell the forcing cone at the back of the barrel and the front of the barrel on every Firearm may differ in shoot pattern. In all the videos I have seen you make the most and best information about shooting. You are most knowing what you are taking about. Thanks for what you do. And I have counted shot too .that is a lot of work. Thanks Ironman in Alabama 73s. Talk to you on the cb radio on channel 33 .

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@Bryce825]

Just got to the spec sheet at 2:29, but wanna say Federal, and Rogue I have used and had TREMENDOUS results with. But Boss being the only one to send you a box of ammo says a lot about them as a company. They're prices seem to be getting more affordable compared to some, and compared to what they provide. This is especially true about their waterfowl loads, which being someone who does not get to waterfowl hunt very often, seeming to be some of the best overall performing out there. Like I said I don't get to go very often to waterfowl hunt, but I now have more of a reason to buy from them seeing as they are willing to help out a "relatively small" channel such as yours in this testing process. Compared to some channels that have ammo deals and etc etc. Looking forward to the rest of the video

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much!

[@Macdaddy22713]

Proud to be a member of the 8% of the people watching that are subbed!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much!

[@mikequirk9943]

George, I loved the video. Based on your videos, it seems like you are a big data guy. Here’s another data point for you. I went out today and patterned my 12 gauge Mossberg 930 at 50 yards with a Redhead Turkey choke and Remington Premier TSS. At 25 yards I got 397 pellets in a 10” circle, 62%, and at 50 yards I got 191 in a 10” circle, 30%. I think the difference between your data point and mine just proves your consistent point that every shotgun and shotgunner is different and you must pattern your shotgun to know how it will perform. Keep up the great work.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Impressive! What's the constriction on that choke? Those are great results.

[@paulwylie989]

Really guys, subscribe. It doesn't cost anything and helps George. I don't know if he's monetized or not. I keep hoping George can afford a Lead Sled, so he doesn't dislocate his shoulder and develop a monster flinch. Good and informative video!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Ha! Thank you so much!

[@vvst10]

Boss is legit. All the other guys need to learn what you do on KZbin.

[@vaughnprecision]

I’ve got the BOSS, I really like them. Nice work sir.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much!

[@Drblood6721]

Awesome video George! Putting in the work so we don't have to. I shot federal for about 3 years until switching to Apex and glad I did. Holy cow it packs em in there. Our season opens May 1 so counting down the days

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you! It really is great stuff!

[@driftlesshunter9200]

This was a very nice review of TSS loads. We don't have to shoot leftovers, because of wonderful souls like you. LOL! I have approached TSS much like I approached lead/hevi-13 turkey loads in the past. For a 10 & 12 gauge, I prefer #5 lead/hevi-13 loads over #4 or #6. I like splitting the difference. As I transition to TSS for my 12 gauge, I prefer #8 over #7 or #9. Three things about Apex sort of won me over. #1 - They did better than some of the other companies during the recent ammunition shortage caused by COVID or whatever. #2 They offer # 7.5, 8, or 9 shot options. I have no doubt Boss #7 & #9 are great loads, but I really like the Apex #8 option. For those who want to save a little money & have less recoil, Apex also offers a 2 oz or 2.25 oz 12 gauge 3" option. I have always found a discount coupon when purchasing Apex, too. #3 Although I don't see myself shooting 3.5" 10 gauge TSS loads that cost a small fortune, I'm impressed that Apex offers a 10 gauge option. I want to support companies that still support 10 gauges, even though TSS will steer me back to 12 & 20 gauges for turkeys. A 3.5" 10 gauge Hevi-13 load shot through my Browning Gold 10 smacked several Toms over the years, & it kicked less than my 12 gauge 870 shooting turkey loads. Sadly, 10 gauge Hevi-13 #5 has become hard to find. I liked your results. It confirmed what I knew about Federal TSS being over rated & over priced. I also knew Herter's were great performers for their payload & price. If Apex disappeared today, I would surely consider Herter's or Boss tomorrow! Thanks again for all your hard work & investment done for this review!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much! I didn't know Apex made a #8. I think that is the next size I'd like to do more testing with to see what its practical capabilities are.

[@bobbyscott8024]

George, you are the ''man''! Thank you for all you do!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much!

[@DarinEllis-f5z]

George, I recently bought some TSS Turkey loads from a new company called Epic Shotshell. There’s not many reviews of it yet so I’d love to see you do a comparison with it along with maybe Boss and Apex! Love your videos!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much! I'll keep my eyes open for them.

[@Cuttindux]

Great video. Excellent detail. Thank you for spending your time and money to help others make educated decisions on expensive options!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks for watching!

[@RdK-33]

Hi George and thx for vidéo, this Apex are juste wow ...

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks! Yes, they are impressive!

[@alexstarlow582]

Are you thinking about doing a video on the top TSS turkey loads at distance vs their shot pattern at 15 to 20 yards to show how some may be too tight at that closer, more realistic, yardage?

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

That is top of my list for next video shoot actually! Show 20 vs 50 yards for a tight and more open choke.

[@johnwest2396]

You put out good Content.... I'm like you I do not believe in the marketing hype of Turkey loads... I've had people say what's a good Turkey load and my response is.... The same stuff people were using 30 years ago......lol

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@mick304]

Great video- I took two shots last weekend in IA at Tom's at around 50 yrds using Federal TSS/Lead mix- neither bird I shot at got knocked down. Both birds were on the move due to seeing me stalking them, and one day the wind was very bad. I was using my Remington 1170 12 Gauge, Carlson choke (can't remember the diameter). I pattern at about 30yrds with my Burris red dot. Tomorrow begins my season in IL and I am wondering if I should order a box of Apex or Boss. I wouldn't get them for tomorrow, but would at least be able to use it for my other two seasons.

[@BLOWN287]

I use Apex Ninja Turkey loads and Boss Bismuth for Waterfowl. Apex TSS Turkey loads have never failed me.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Apex makes a great shell, no doubt!

[@jeffbarris8172]

I think salt creek ammo would of sent you a box for testing George, great custom ammo company, God bless you and go get them in the marsh.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I did ask actually. They acknowledged the request but never said yes or no. I asked a few others too that said no or nothing. I wanted to do more brands but budget was limited and I didn't want to wait another year lol.

[@jeffbarris8172]

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I'm kind of surprised , keep up the good work George thank you

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

@jeffbarris8172 thanks!

[@bent5434]

Thanks for all that you do

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks for watching Ben!

[@joestead3599]

New subscriber here! Great video!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much!

[@JamesDeTorre]

Like Herters no9 12 gauge, 1.5 oz. Pattern master choke. Doesn’t hurt shoulder

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

That is true!

[@tractorboys716]

Great videos I just found your channel today and subscribed

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much!

[@Huntingboy0912]

Could you do something similar to this with a full choke instead or maybe with a 20 gauge because a lot of people including myself use 20 gauges for turkey.

[@matthunter1667]

Im in Ohio and most local shops carry the federal tss in #7 and #9 shot for $41-$45 a box depending on gauge.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Really? 3"?

[@Bamamike223]

Damn good video. And I helped to fix that little pesky problem you have...Liked and Subscribed. 🤙

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much!

[@brianclayton6305]

Good video! I use the federal, and get nice patterns at 40yds in my mossberg 500

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

What choke are you using?

[@brianclayton6305]

Carlson’s long beard XR and I meant my mossberg 500. Switched this season from the benenlli, which I had used for 20+ years. Wanted something different

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

@@brianclayton6305 Nice!

[@dannybyrdjr919]

Another great video!! 👍I watch em all. I still use good ole lead but if i get some extra cash i'll surely keep these tss video tests in mind. Thanks and keep em coming!!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank-you so much for watching!

[@rodneyharouff5739]

good vid! what's your doctorate in?

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks! Communications Media.

[@ryanreynolds3630]

Dude spent like $500 in ammo for this video lmao what a champ

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

In retrospect, it probably wasn't worth the cost of doing the video lol

[@danielnalepinski3884]

😮 $$$ good thing for donations!!! I can honestly say. I only have 15 tss shells total. Accumulated over the past 3 years.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

They are not cheap! That's for sure!

[@ArshadAli-up1ko]

dose the shotgun make difference in speed or dose the cartrige increase the speed

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Barrell length can effect velocity some. The cartridge is the primary determinant though.

[@ArshadAli-up1ko]

@@TheNewHuntersGuidethanks

[@jnie370]

Great job

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much!

[@jnie370]

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I think Apex and Vertic. Are best Turkey loads

[@maxjoe8]

Going on my first Turkey hunt in a few weeks. I have a full choke on a mossberg 12 gauge with Winchester super X 3 in #5 shot. Will this setup work up to 40 yards? I patterned these shells with a modified chock at 35 yards and was getting about 15 pellets in the vitals.

[@derickashby8294]

I watched another KZbin video where they have a pellet collector target, so when you shoot your tss, you reclaim some of your expensive pellets. Have you thought about that?

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I don't handhold so it likely wouldn't help much. Also, you could do factory ammo tests with reclaimed hand loads and I don't need more than 2 or 3 turkey shells a year for hunting so, for me it doesn't do alot right now. Plus I'm sure that thing has some cost and takes up more space than I have to set aside for it.

[@vicjones1179]

Awesome video Thanks

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@TheDks300]

Great video!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you!

[@turkeyhunter7617]

Hmm interesting info, thx for sharing 👍👍

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks for watching!

[@3rdgenHunter92]

I bought the 12g herters for my 870 with a carlsons heavy weight TSS .640 choke and I hit like 8 inches high at 40 yards. Not sure if I’m over choked or what

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Open sights? Or with an Optic?

[@3rdgenHunter92]

@@TheNewHuntersGuideopen sights bead

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

@@3rdgenHunter92 8" high at 40 yards is a fair bit. Do other TSS shells at the same velocity hit differently?

[@3rdgenHunter92]

⁠@@TheNewHuntersGuideI have not tried any other TSS yet I am still feeling the burn in my pocket from those 5 rounds of herters lol

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

@@3rdgenHunter92 Yea, the burn is real!

[@AWZ1287]

Are you planning on doing any buckshot testing?

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I aspire to. But it's not high on the list. You can't hunt anything with it in my state outside of coyotes and some pest animals.

[@AWZ1287]

OK that's understandable.👍 I was thinking about taking a shotgun out this deer season, to change it up from my normal rifles.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

@anthonyz.4560 yea, that's a good use. It's just not legal in my state. If it was, I'd be much more apt to test it. I haven't ruled it out, it's just not top of the list.

[@joshuaeck2712]

Love the video!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you!!

[@EllaAbel-j9h]

Ullrich Gateway

[@ArthurNelson-b2u]

Domenick Plains

[@HoraceSebastiane-m4q]

Morissette Crossroad

[@BartOlga-y2y]

Mertz Ridges

[@brandonvick8013]

Just shows what brand shoots best with his setup others could shoot better with other setups

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Yes! I think I said that or something to that effect a couple times. Hence the average choke tube.

[@NancyRoy-f8l]

Mohamed Cove

[@paulellsworth7679]

Someone actually uses tss for turkey out of a 12 guage? Wow!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Wha? Yea, it's the common load.

[@paulellsworth7679]

@TheNewHuntersGuide 12 gauge TSS is certainly not a common load.... 20 gauge TSS is much more realistic, with 410 TSS rapidly increasing. When a 410 can adequately kill a turkey at 40 yards, why would anyone pay $20.00 per shot for 12 gauge? 20 guage is easily good out to 60 plus yards... What would someone use a 12 gauge for 100 yards? I mean how much is to much?

[@fransenet]

Great Video and great job 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you so much!@@fransenet

[@-B_G-]

@@paulellsworth7679- believe it or not , it’s the most common gauge period for turkey hunting, tss included. Most ppl don’t have a dedicated turkey gun, they have a do all gun and just get a turkey choke for it. I have 7 different turkey specific guns of different gauges for different situations but I realize that is not necessary

[@jonathanrogers9961]

Well, I had been researching TSS loads, then I looked at the prices.... $7.00 EACH! A box of 5 is $35.00, and that is the CHEAPEST shells I can find! I will stick with lead.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Yea, that's about the cheapest going too.