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@arnandegans2 жыл бұрын
But but barry... There is a perfect tire for Starbucks adventurers - Right? Something that screams "street tire".
@Najsed2 жыл бұрын
Alot of youtubers talk about that how much TIME you spend on/off road should dictate what tire to get. I think that a more appropriate approach is how much you value your time on/offroad. I probably ride 60% on and 40% offroad but i am on knobbies because of the amount of pavement before i get to the good stuff. The good stuff that makes me want to ride 😊
@DoubleArrow2 жыл бұрын
Solid point. When you ride both on and off-road, there has to be compromise somewhere. Gotta choose where you can accept some lower performance so that you get the most out of your tire when you really want it. I used to ride knobbies on the street all the time, but that was when I could hit dirt everyday. Now I have to ride more street friendly tires and just be a little more cautious when I get off pavement; both ways are fun.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Good point, Johan. I don't think the amount of time is that important... probably where you value the performance most! Do you hammer on the bike on road, but just potter along easy dirt roads? Or do you cruise out on the highway then go crazy in the dirt?
@fmacdonald35592 жыл бұрын
As someone that is an "average" road ride and "below average" off road rider I went down the path of getting more offroad focused tyres (Shinko e804) even though my riding would be 50:50. The logic being I need all the help I can off road but happy to give away the performance onroad as I am more relaxed in that environment.
@1DoctorMoo2 жыл бұрын
I've gone through multiple sets of the following tyres on my KLR650 - Dunlop K850A, Dunlop D605, MotoZ Desert HTs and Maxxis 6006. I've been happy with all of them and would buy any of them again. My philosophy is buy what I feel like and just ride them!
@bellyacre118 сағат бұрын
I Really like my trailwing tires. I probably ride 80% in sand, and gravel. But, I have no problems with the trailwings. I also like to ride in rain during hot summer season. If a dirt road is unpassable. The trailwing is not only excellent on wet asphalt. It has excellent wear on asphalt.
@tincho19792 ай бұрын
Una vez más debo coincidir contigo mi amigo Ausie 👍🏻 En mi zona decimos: “Es el indio, no la flecha” 😉 Saludos desde Argentina
@SimonBrisbane2 жыл бұрын
Kyle Bradshaw is probably KZbin’s foremost authority on Adventure Tyres but with a disclaimer attached: He will never give negative feedback on a tyre (smart from a potential sponsor perspective) so you need to focus on those he gives the most positive feedback on and recognise some he gives very little or “unconvincing” praise. I took his advice for my rubber and it’s been great 👍🏼
@SimonBrisbane2 жыл бұрын
@@impact0r I did, thank you - corrected it now.
@Wintersdark2 жыл бұрын
With my undying love of Motoz's tires already covered, I'll absolutely agree: it's genuinely hard to get a bad tire these days. Tire technology has advanced to the point where they're all pretty damn great, and the worst you can do is get a tire that's not so good for you and your specific requirements - if you're honest with yourself about what you want out of a tire, any major manufacturer will have a good option for you. The problem I find is people aren't honest with themselves about what they want. It's always trade-offs, so you need to know what's important for you. Ultimately though you can buy a tire based on what it looks like vs the kind of tire performance you want these days and not go wrong doing that. It's a good time to be a motorcyclist. There really aren't bad tires (at least from major manufacturers, at any rate) anymore. You just need to work out which tire has the right assortment of trade-offs *for you*. But they're pretty much all good tires these days.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
So true, Derrick... It's a good time to be a motorcyclist. I try to be critical in my reviews of products but overall I'd say we really are in a golden age of motorcycling compared to the past. In most respects.
@MalHanson2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Yep, I bought a brand new RD250LC in 1980 or '81 (my first new bike) and didn't even ride it on the standard tyres. I had the dealer put a set of Pirelli Phantoms on it before riding it home. As a weird twist, my current street bike (a Royal Enfield) came with Phantoms as standard - a testament to the longevity of the tyre design 🙂
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Pirelli Phantoms... never even heard of them. There seem to be so many tyres I don't know about. I've never been very focused on tyres as I just tend to go for round black ones that are cheap lol.
@1DoctorMoo2 жыл бұрын
@@MalHanson the Phantoms are a great tyre. A true survivor. They went particularly well on the Yamaha FZ750.
@Dontortellini3 Жыл бұрын
except for the tkc 80 which has not evolved since its debut, on my gasgas es 700 it is soo scary on wet roads, the front is ok but the rear almost unrideable. My next will be the Mitas e07 or e09
@rotorhead50002 жыл бұрын
I gave the tusk D sport adventure tire a shot on my wr250 because I needed a street legal for inspection here, figuring if I hated it, they were cheap enough I could toss my non street legal knobbies back on and not feel bad about it if I hated them, but I've been pleasantly surprised. You notice the rubber compound is a little hard for the slick rocks, but that is helping with wear from time on the asphalt, so a good compromise, not to mention dirt cheap, like I think 120$ usd for a set.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Bargain! Sadly not available here in Oz. I guess our similar tyre in the Dunlop D606... AUD200 for the set, or about USD140.
@khaccanhle19302 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@everydaybiker2 жыл бұрын
I have ridden 1000s of ks tar and tet on karoo Street, they have been amazingly capable in every situation, only being thwarted by mud. Lasted maybe 13000ks. On a rally raided cb500x. Love the channel guys. Cheers
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jim! I'm hoping Honda will create a rally-style option for the CB500X one day....
@everydaybiker2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure rally raid cb500x is fantastic, juts wish it wasn't 200kg and the engine ie VERY boring.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Yep. If Honda could get their mojo back for good bike design, the rally model could be quite a bit lighter and pack more horsepower too... it would sell like hotcakes.
@pilotdane12 жыл бұрын
Barry - You are so correct on so many levels, I don't think you realize it. Been riding for about 55 years. Now, THE MIGHTY SUZUKI DR 650 - (I'm 61) MITAS E-07's are in my opinion an absolutely perfect 50/50 tire - Absolutely LOVED them. Completely transformed the DR into a completely different bike. "HERE IN ARIZONA" Now running SHINKO 244's (Golden Boy) and absolutely love these even more. They are definitely a 70/30 tire (as I think you said before) [70% dirt / 30%road] - Less than $100 delivered to your door... Although most of my riding is in town, due to time, their performance out here in the Arizona Desert cannot be beat - but here, we don't have much mud to speak of. As you said, this question cannot be answered..... Cheers !!!!
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I tried the E07 on the rear... great mileage!
@mrutu3637 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat buddie. On bush pig number 7 (still have number 4) - gone through lots of different shoe types - for me the K60 Scouts have been the best all round tyre. Cant get them in NZ at the moment (and cant see any in Australia) so have got a set of Tractionator GPS ready to go next.
@cumnmrmptaaa42342 жыл бұрын
Finally found my go to with Motoz. Could never justify the price, but I went for it and do not regret it. For the knobby-ness compared to longevity, I've never had a tire that comes close. Will definitely buy them again when I find my next bike
@pjakszentis2 жыл бұрын
As you said, terrain and usage plus personal preferences count. I have excellent experience with the Heidenau Scout (no middle stripe) on KTM 690 for +80.000 km. Good for dry conditions, gravel, rock, tarmac and still reasonable on wet roads, but not in muddy conditions. For real off-road I like Metzeler Karoo Extreme on the 690. All in combination with Michelin UHD tubes almost puncture resistant. On the 890 R the OEM Karoo 3 wasn’t convincing, but the Heidenau Ranger in 150/70-18 is astonishingly good off-road without significant compromise on-road. Currently 5.500 km and expect +2,000 km remaining useful life. The hard carcass allows running at low pressure if needed.
@adventuristtv2 жыл бұрын
The best advice I can give in addition to what’s been said is: Just pick something you think might be close to what you’re looking for. Then based on how it performs, move up or down the tyre spectrum appropriately. I started with TKC80s on a 1290R and loved them, but needed something more aggressive for more off-road. I’ve tried the Rallz and now moved onto the Desert HT also by Motoz. I’ll probably hang around this area of the spectrum until either my skill level or the type of terrain I ride changes.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Great approach! So often I hear guys say 'This tyre sucks, it's going to kill me!' Possibly it's a bit more dirt or road oriented than the ideal, but I still think it's better to focus on riding skills and just ride within your limits. Then just pick a more suitable tyre next time. A good rider can do some incredible riding on the most inappropriate tyres when they have to...
@gottlobwut47422 жыл бұрын
My lightweight experience with XT 600 (151kg). For Street, long distance and some offroad activities in dry conditions I use CONTI TKC 70. Aggressive, fast riding on dry street is a pleasure, on wet street much better than my brave and in dry offroad conditions good enough for smooth rides and impressive hillclimbs. The durability is fantastic on lightweight bike. If I ride in difficult or/and wet offroad conditions I use MICHELIN TRACKER. In my opinion best compromise for maximum traction offroad and a fairly small rest of street usability for these kind of knobby (noisy, but not so much, some durability, fairly stable on dry and wet street and legal for 170km/h!).
@Boudi-xy9by Жыл бұрын
great that you first explains what you ride, and secondly give me directly an indication how heavy your bike is. Now I can judge what you are explaining, thank ;-)
@dmytrosavchuk33172 жыл бұрын
Great vid 👍now I’m riding Mitas e-09 on xt1200 and they are fairly good on road with near to none noise at 150 km/h and and they behave pretty nicely off road including mud, gravel and not deep sand.
@Boudi-xy9by Жыл бұрын
Great tyre, but I think "the not deep sand" is because your bike is too heavy ;-) Riding sand is a different discipline, I don't like it either because you have to lift the front a little by just giving enough throttle , but you can't go to fast, because the environment doesn't allow ... actually you can't win just survive hahahaha
@dmytrosavchuk3317 Жыл бұрын
@@Boudi-xy9by btw tried Motoz Rallz - great tires, definitely better off road than Mitas e-09, but noisy at 130 km/h And the most versatile are Motoz GPS - pump them up and they are ready for 180 km/h without any noise and decent grip on the tarmac. Then pump them down and you are ready for light and moderate off road. Not enough for mud but good on sand and versatility rocks !
@MarkDaleADV Жыл бұрын
I find for my sub 600cc dual sport bikes, Motoz extreme hybrid tyres are all I would ever need. One step back from a full knobbly, hard wearing, and no problem at all on the road. Plenty good enough for spirited riding between lanes here in the UK.
@keithclarke51372 жыл бұрын
Last back tyre I use was a moto Oz tractionator enduro. 100% single trail and rock hill climbs was every happy with it and its life span.
@notesonwheels2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. I have to share my experience with the -by many people much hated- TKC80 on a 650 dual sport pegaso 650. Great on road. Great on wet (!). Perfect on dirt and gravel roads. Mud is a different story - if those knobs get full of it, it feels you are probably riding a street tire. But all in all, I loved it so much I am never using a different option on dirt/road. I honestly think it is not for everybody, but as you said, it worked for me.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, Loukas! I suspect we always need to take all reviews and owners' comments with a grain of salt. You can always find that type of clay which clogs up even the most aggressive knobby! Does it mean the tyre sucks? Nope!
@robsonenduro33162 жыл бұрын
tyres are like boots, try many and choose by yourself which fits the best your riding style.
@motoric51882 жыл бұрын
Dude I always lust for these "commercials" @0:59. Always have me cracking! 😂 Cheers!!👍
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
No one will sponsor me so I just have to fake it until I make it. 😁
@justgjt2 жыл бұрын
I have Motoz Tractionator HD for 100% offroad and use Pirelli Scorpion Trail's for all on road. Both are good for what I use them for. The Scorpions have never slipped on me in the wet going through round abouts and they wear very well. The bike is a DR650 also.
@64faffi2 жыл бұрын
Great video, interesting topic. I used to dislike gravel roads for decades, tip-toeing along if I had no option but to ride on such roads. Then, 5-6 years ago, I converted a Virago into a scrambler, fitted it with a Heidenau K60 Silica 120/90-18 rear tyre and a 100/90-19 Mitas E-07 front, based mostly on KZbin videos. Suddenly, gravel was fun. I entered a big multi-day rally (500+ bikes, mostly BMW GSs as well as KTMs and other more specialized machines), joined the second-fastest group and cheered inside my helmet when I rode past the guide who had went down on his new R1200GS on a semi-deep mud section littered with rocks the size of footballs and larger. I survived four days upright, and loved hanging the tail out 30 cm in apparent control around most bends. Or doing 150 kph on gravel roads without being scared or anxious, just alert. The bike was rock stable, much easier to control at high speeds than my mate's KTM 690 enduro. A year later, I fitted normal road tyres to my scrambler, went for a ride on a gravel road - and nearly crashed. I did not in any way have the skills to control the slides on these tyres. Anything above gentle progress was scary. So for me, with limited (mild) offroad experience, tyres matter. A lot. Which made me go back to the 50/50 option, just to feel like I could ride a little bit.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I must admit I enjoy skating around on gravel roads and usually don't bother reducing air pressures to suit... fun fun fun. But I really admire those guys who can go flat track style on big adv bikes on gravel corners. Way beyond my skill level lol.
@64faffi2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure I have never tried lower air pressure, it remains at 32 PSI front, 36PSI rear under all conditions.
@olliemacpherson70212 жыл бұрын
Still blown away by the production value of your videos.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ollie, it's all a steep learning curve. I look back on my first videos and shudder now lol. But the new Gopro and drone also make it so easy to get good shots too.
@oliverallen5324 Жыл бұрын
I took an adventure bike class with 90/10 tires and kept up with everyone regardless of their tires. There are limitations, but most of them are apparent before you even pick your line or take a corner. Be honest about what kind of riding you're going to do, and shoot for an approximation; your preferred riding will undoubtedly change as your catalog of experience grows.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
I agree, Oliver. It will usually be more about your ability than the tyres lol. Many like the call the stock tyres on the DR650 'Deathwings' but I'll always use them till they wear out then get something more off-road oriented.
@Boudi-xy9by Жыл бұрын
It depends on the situation, I did the TED in Greece last year (KTM890-ADV-R with luggage), and most of the trails where OK, and doable ... but some sections where really rocky and steep where 200kg bike with luggage is sometimes 30-40kg to heavy. and in some bad weather situations when the roads get muddy due to heavy rains .... mmm I wished I had a tyre that could handle mud better than the 50/50 or 80/20 street oriented tyre. An this has little to do with skills but more with the wright equipment. So we back at the dissisions where do you want to compromise ... on the ROAD or OFF-ROAD, that is the great question. I started the trip with Michelin Anakee Wild, but at 60% of the trip they where gone (I was a little bit to heavy on the trottle in the Alps (driving down from The Netherlands to the Alps and the Balkan to Greece) I did although a far bit of the trip with the Anakee Wild's and I really liked them On and Off-Road. but in Padras I had to change them for what ever I could get to continue an I shout I was lucky to put some Hydenau K60 Rangers ... the where Ok on the dry hard rocky stuff but they disappointed me if the roads became soaked in rain ... you know it looks a little bit wet, but it is soft wet and becomes muddy, to the extend that you tyre grows 50% bigger. So again what kind of skills do you want to learn in those situations?
@chriskirchner50942 жыл бұрын
The Dunlop 605s that came on my KLX 300 seem to be well suited for a even mix of on/off road. I’ll likely go to something more off-road when they wear out. I’ll appreciate the improvement in skills until then! 😉
@NorthWestMotos2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The D605's are a good tire for price and last quite a while. Went with the D606's after my D605's wore out. Better off road performance but worse on road. Very noisey on road
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I remember the tyre howl when I used the D606 on the my old DR650! I'd up the pressure to 30psi and use ear plugs... still bad!
@brokken21782 жыл бұрын
After my first ride on 606‘s I actually changed the wheel bearings cause I thought I got dirt in it. So loud but so amazing off-road
@pilotdane12 жыл бұрын
LOVE THE WARNING AT THE BEGINNING !!! - Another classic :-)
@CoachSteve4u Жыл бұрын
I just put on a front Tusk Dsport tire on my new DRZ. The compound is super hard compared to the stock death wings. This means less rolling resistance. But I added a rim lock and weights plus a heavy duty inner tube. It's a lot heavier now. The gyroscopic affect when picking up speed is A LOT more than before. Just a new front tire changed the handling dramatically. It's more responsive to any little handlebar movement but it's more squirly. I havent taken it up to high speed yet. Seriously, I bet I just improved my gas mileage by 5 mpg and acceleration. I cant wait to take it off road.
@MiJi_293 ай бұрын
"If your bike can't cross a Mud with your stock tyres, then your tyres are the main problem" - My Dad criticizing my Suzuki V-Strom 250
@whitedrguy65032 жыл бұрын
I have tried so many different tyres on my DR over the years actually went back to the Dunlop Trailwings at one stage and found them okay, the front was a bit dodgy on soft dirt, thick gravel and mud so a more aggressive front tyre was better, Pirelli MT 21 was fine, the rear Trailwing was perfectly good on anything but mud and was cheap. My T7 currently has a TKC 80 front and a Motoz Tractionator rear and works good for me with good mileage. Sadly at the moment due to supply issues it is a case of you get what you can.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
The good old Dunlop Deathwings. 😂 I know plenty of guys hate them but I'll keep them on a new DR650 until they wear out. Skating around on gravel or wet clay is lots of fun... until it isn't! Which type of Tractionator on the rear? Rallz or Adventure? I'm thinking of trying the Motoz next.
@whitedrguy65032 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Adventure
@jarrodleis4046 Жыл бұрын
For my DR 650 I like to run a front tire that is one step closer to a dirt tire than the rear tire. I have two sets of wheels and on the more dirt orientated set I run a Shinko 244 rear and a Dunlop 606 front. For the more road orientated set I run a Shinko 705 rear and a Shinko 244 front. If you only have one set of wheels just run the 244’s front and rear and replace them often.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
Good approach, Jarrod. I think many of us do that... a bit more dirt aggressive on the front.
@SandlotRider2 жыл бұрын
Michelin Sirac for lightweight dualsport. Don't expect to find any kind of traction in the sand/mud/snow or try and go hill climbing. They'll perform as bad as any road tire but they're more than decent on wet tarmac, gravel and dirt roads. The best bargain tyres for my personal use on a DT125RE. Same with Dunlop Trailmax and Pirelli MT90 A/T for an adventure bike. Currently I've got the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR which came stock with my T7. They're fine but I tend to find the limit a tad too quickly to my liking on-road and I don't think they offer any significant benefit to the aforementioned off-road. So I'll most definitely put a set of Trailmax when I'm done with the STRs.
@allenhuling5982 жыл бұрын
Well that was pretty calm for a rant...well done! Interesting timing, as I just ordered a new set for the T7 today - before watching this......it seems I came to a concensus of what will work best for my riding, I'll let you know how it goes! Cheers Barry!
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
It didn't really rate as a rant, Allen. 😁 What did you get for the T7? Enjoying the Yammie?
@allenhuling5982 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Yes, loving the T7 and becoming more capable on it with every ride! For what I want from a tire, it was either the K 60 Scout or Motoz Tractionator GPS...went with the GPS, and will run it in the 50/50 rotation. Ride safe!
@gkeller99582 жыл бұрын
Continental TKC 70 came on my KTM 390 Adventure, I believe they are a 80/20 tire or 70/30. Either way they belong on the pavement, except for the front which isn’t too bad in the dirt. So I opted for the Dunlop Trailmax mission which is a 50/50 since I do so much tarmac to get to the dirt and if you know anything about the 390 Adventure, it’s no more than a modified Duke which is a street bike. The Trailmax had great reviews that I found to be true except for the front tire isn’t much better than the TKC 70. They are very hard, that’s why you can get nearly 10,000 miles on them, but you really need to air them down off the pavement. I would say they do ok in the sand, rocks, mud and dirt. On the pavement their great even wet. Don’t understand those guys running knobby’s on the 600lbs adventure bikes. Can’t run them on very many single track trails. Maybe in the desert they would be a good option, but anything technical forget it. Plus they aren’t worth a damn on the pavement. Get ya a duel sport or enduro and have some fun off roading. That way you don’t have to call a wrecker when you dump it.
@clemoniii2 жыл бұрын
Total agreement! I have Bridgestone AX41s on my pig of an adventure bike because i don't care about longevity, i don't get to ride enough. However, when it's dry here we have deep sand or hard pack dirt/clay and when it's wet we have wet sand and slick sucking mud. I want knobbies for the sand and mud without a hard rubber that slips on wet pavement. These do very well on a BMW 850 GSA. It doesn't have the power to encourage tire shredding shenanigans, and it is too heavy to push out of a mud hole. I'm boring on a BMW, but hell on the Beta RRs
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I'm not really familiar with that one, Clinton. I'll put a link here in case others aren't either. Do you get much tyre noise on the highway with it? www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/detail/pr154/
@clemoniii2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Noise, yes, but not enough to bother me. Ride is quite smooth. Doesn't squirm in pavement corners, and i have buddies that really pushed them HARD. The reason they don't repeat AX-41S is they have large KTMs and shred the rear tires very quickly.
@stevemason77902 жыл бұрын
Another great video.I replaced my tires on my new,(last year)CB500x as I got a flat first ride on the dirt.After much research,chose the trail max missions,suitable for a beginner on the dirt.Mostly riding on the road with forays on dirt,but nothing too technical.Have got 10,000k's so far,rear doesn't even look worn.Yes,the front does make a noise but not annoying for me.Bang on the money when you say it's personal choice.I might move to a different rear when it's time to replace,see how my skill level has improved.Cheers.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
10000km? Damn that's good, Steve! It looks like the perfect tread pattern for that sort of riding.
@jeffreydunn4901 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with pantah81 that Heidenau Scout tires and riding lower pressure. I once had a rear tire puncture in a very bad situation, I rode several miles on the flat to get where I could replace the tube. I am still riding that same tire today. (a year later). They are a pain to replace for my winter road tire though.
@michelt43904 ай бұрын
Tires are consumables... And a bit like beer. - Try them, if you like them. All is good. If don't, they'll wear out soon enough... And you can buy something else 😊
@WhatTimeIsIt3692 жыл бұрын
Tires do make a big difference if you push past any of the tires abilities. That's pretty simple right? I have tried to explain this so many times with little success. Another problem with tire buyers is their own perception of how they ride. Like the 244 Shinko for example. Rave reviews all over the place on this tire and to be fair they are fantastic for the price and what I would call normal riding. For me the front tire is down right scary because it has no side gripping power and washes out as soon as your bike leans a little too far. But great for "normal" light weight adventure bike riding riders. I'm a big fan of Mitas tires. E-07 for longer trips with more blacktop and E-09 for rougher terrain trips. Tough tires! I literally destroyed a new TKC 80 in one day with chunks coming out of it while doing so. To me that is not a good value for a very expensive tire. K60 tires are great for most people I would think. Long lasting and pretty capable albeit expensive. The bottom line here is that every tire has it's place and everyone has to figure out if their place matches the tires they choose.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Very true, stay with the tyre's abilities... it's why I discount so many negative reports on various tyres. DR650 owners hate the 'Deathwings' fitted from new. They can be hairy off road, but I still use them until they are worn out. I don't mind slipping and sliding around on gravel as it's all part of learning to ride better (and being a cheapskate lol).
@raffs_adv2 жыл бұрын
I just used a Motoz Adventure rear with a AX41 front from central Victoria to Cairns zigzagging all the way around the map, AX41 works everywhere 👍Motoz is so loud on tar road sections it was making me angry , I was riding a 22 T700 with 35kg of gear.
@StanForAdventure Жыл бұрын
I loved this for one specific reason...you tell it like it is. "Concentrate more on the riding first" I know probably what your average rider knows about tires, after a little research on my own, and I made a decision and I'm not looking back. I will say I got some good information from my dealer who gets a lot of feed back from lots of clients from many different types of tires they've installed. The dealers opinion really helped me make up my mind between the two different sets of tires I was considering. And I'll say it wasn't a situation where the dealer was trying to push me towards a tire that makes him the most money or the tire that he had the most stock of. Thanks again for your input. Feel free to check out my thoughts on the tires I went with.....S.F.A.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
Glad the vid was useful, Stan. Years ago a guy would regularly give a very detailed analysis on a forum about various tyres. And I thought he must be an incredible rider. Then one day I finally met him and he could barely ride at all lol. He was just regurgitating stuff he'd read in so called tyre reviews. It always stuck in my mind because I thought he would be much better off putting all that energy into riding skills... but each to their own I guess.
@PetterIvarsson2 жыл бұрын
I like tires that behave in a way that I can trust.
@moflyboyblanquito5412 жыл бұрын
Wr250r pirelli scorpion I love them. Super long life. Surprisingly good off-road gravel and dirt. And you can spin out for fun pretty easily too. Not mud. Mud no bueno! But you’ll be surprised pleasantly off road. And on road supremacy is the only order They are excellent and as stated last forever. Not literally forever.
@khaccanhle19302 жыл бұрын
My tires tend towards the knobby scale. If I want tires for on and off road, I use D605. But if I'm going to ride more on muddy trails, these often get clogged too easily, and I prefer the closest road legal tire I can get to a motocross tread. And then MX51 if I can get away with it.
@helmutschmacher21002 жыл бұрын
VE33/35. You buy whatever you want, im sticking with these badboys.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Had to look that one up, Helmut! Looks like a pretty aggressive knobby... I assume it's for a sub 650cc bike?
@Boonus182 жыл бұрын
I like the black tires.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
If you have to be fussy about colour then yes... black is the best. 😎
@jameshind66442 жыл бұрын
Pirelli scorpion rally mst front and Motoz desert h/t on the back. Great combination off road and not to bad on road if you don't mind the tyre noise.
@danielmoore25552 жыл бұрын
I had hidenaus on my drz and the balance of commuting and trail riding was brilliant. I'm not a gun rider by any stretch but seemed to keep up in the bush plus it was pleasant on the pavement. And they didn't seem to wear. Would recommend them to people who require manners on road and don't underperform off road. Again one personal opinion but I was happy
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
It's always good when you find a tyre combo that works for you, Daniel!
@leatt469311 ай бұрын
Love my Continental TKC 80's on my KTM 450 EXC-F. Nice on the road and good off-road. I ride all the same places with these tires that I did with my Kenda Trackmaster tires. Just have to change how I ride with the TKC 80's.
@wrightcycleworks2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. There is no do it all tire. I'm a cheap bastard, so I always tend to run the Kenda Trackmasters. Super cheap, good offroad, and good enough on the street to get you by. Pirelli MT 21's are a good choice as well. I hated the Dunlop 606, good on the road, spun everywhere offroad.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of DR650 owners used to love the D606 rear MT21 front combo...
@Dr_Reason2 жыл бұрын
If in doubt, lean further toward off road tires in your choice. Even if this turns out to be a mistake, at least you will know how much road compromise you can accept.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I reckon this isn't a bad approach if you definitely want to do some dirt on every ride. I'd rather have a tyre that can handle some mud or slippery clay, even if it means I can't really lean it over hard when cornering on the road.
@mikerichardson4152 жыл бұрын
Shinko 705 on the 650 and Bridgestone AX41 on the 250 dual sports. Work great for me! Both wear quickly, but my skin is fragile.
@stringbender2472 жыл бұрын
Motoz tires are absolutely incredible. Little bit of road noise but they wear like steel and get better traction than Velcro. They are definitely expensive but definitely worth the cost and no I'm not sponsored or supported in any way
@miclinda256 Жыл бұрын
Agree! 100% rallz rear and dv front, is the ultimate combo on a t7 so good on the highway too👍
@Boudi-xy9by Жыл бұрын
Disagree 100% They maybe greet in warm climates but they suck in cooler climates. that is the trade-off for the great milage that the rubber compound is harder .... and bad on roads (wet or dry) if the tyre doesn't get his temperature.
@dwightnix8933 ай бұрын
Looking for recommendations for a mud, snow, ice and rain tires.
@AppalachianDualSport2 жыл бұрын
I've had good luck with Motoz Tractionator Enduro IT for all-around DS riding (more off road than on) on my KTM500. I'm doing the TAT soon and will probably start on the TKC80's that my bike came with and switch to the Motoz Rallz when the TKC's wear out. The Enduro IT is a great DS tire but it doesn't have the tread life on pavement that I want for a cross-country ride like the TAT.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I just had a look at the tread pattern, the Enduro IT looks like it would wear fast on the bitumen. I reckon the Rallz should go a fair bit longer... haven't tried them but keen to see how they go on the DR650.
@gjavo64002 жыл бұрын
Anlas Capra X deserves a shout out (knobby similar to Anakee Wild). I have the front and love it, the rear that wasn't available at the time of my last change will now replace the current TKC80 and I'm expecting it to be every bit as good or better, at a lot lower price, and last longer at that. DR650 riding 70% off road on rocky mountain terrain, but want to have decent on road performance for the approach&connects and occasional tour or commute. TKC80 meets its good name but I find the tube type side walls soft for pressure below 1.4 bar. TKC70 great on road but horrible on anything off-road slightly damp, especially descending, and front weird cupping.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it, here's a link in case anyone is interested. anlas.com/en/products/capra-x-en/ Doesn't seem to be available in Australia.
@manybikes Жыл бұрын
1:12 ... The best Adv bike made to date! 100 hp... 400 lbs... v-twin torque... Super Enduro!
@wyattblessing70782 жыл бұрын
I've used Dunlop D606's on my DR650. Awesome tire for off road riding, decent on the street but doesn't last long. I've had strange wear on my front tire, not sure yet if it's suspension, tire or aggressive cornering on the road. Just switched to a Pirelli mt-07 for the front tire but haven't ridden it much yet. Edit: it's a MT21 got mixed up with the Midas E07 Dakar I put on my Tiger
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I've had the same issue, Wyatt. I used to use them all the time because there was a really good deal on the front/rear combo fitted for many years here in Australia. Weird wear patterns on the front seem to be considered standard. A lot of DR650 riders use the D606 on the rear but an MT21 on the front... it looks very similar but doesn't get the weird wear pattern apparently. Hopefully your MT07 will be fine as well!
@wyattblessing70782 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure sorry I just double checked, it's a MT21
@skrillaguerilla2 жыл бұрын
Uneven block wear on the front? I experienced that with the kenda big blocks. It was a combination of not enough pressure in the tire and heavy braking loaded up with camping gear on paved roads 🤦♂️
@wyattblessing70782 жыл бұрын
@@skrillaguerilla sounds about right
@bensnipes72882 жыл бұрын
MT21 front on my DR650. Have gotten the wedge shape wear on the knobs in the front in the past. Low pressure on pavement and heavy front brake use is the culprit.
@tribalbc2 жыл бұрын
The Shinko 705 should really be compared with the touring tires as it is more like 80/20. I just replaced my Death Wings on my DR650 at 4000km with the Shinko 700's they rate as a 60/40 tire. I now have 2000km on them. I went with the 60/40 as I come from a lifetime of offroad riding and racing, but am really a newbie at street, but I like to ride street aggressively. Offroad I can deal with whatever, it just changes my terrain choices. But I still wanted good ( in my eyes anyways) street performance. All I can really draw comparisons with street wise is the Death Wings, but it outperformed those. The big surprise is the dirt. The rear pretty much handles like any hard terrain MX tire. The front can skate in gravel, but does decent in roots and rocks and isn't a horror show in mud. The soft compound of these tires is a big part of why they work so well. At 2000km the rear is looking around half life. I would be happy with 4000kms from it, as I am typically hard on tires and in the dirt world that is excellent life. Price is pretty hard to beat as well.
@arnohag1 Жыл бұрын
Use the motoz adventure 50/50 on my Dr650. Good all-rounder, bit noisy on bitumen over 80k/hr, and a bit slippy in the wet on bitumen. I just ride a bit steadier and she's right.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
I've just started using the Rallz with good results. Oddly enough, I mainly hear the tyre noise at around 60 to 70kmh then they go quiet again... or are drowned out by wind noise?
@ll.792710 ай бұрын
Skill does play a big role but tires make it so easy n less harsh on your body. I rode shinkos 705 on some extreme off road with mud n sand. N it was hard but I was able to keep up with everyone do yo my skill. then I rode with a real dirt tire n it just it so easy n gave so much confidence.
@crosstrainingadventure10 ай бұрын
Mud, clay and sand definitely make tyre choice more important!
@BigDaveTALKS2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I change my tires before my trips. I get what best suits the type of riding I/ We will be doing. I should really get another set of wheels as the original tires on my 2022 AT only had about 700 miles on them before I tossed them and went with a 50/50 tire. Trailmax Mission. Those were for the trip we did in May, I have a set of Anake Wild waiting to go on for my trip in October.
@adamrichards20722 жыл бұрын
Dunlop d606 for me. On dual sports, I haven't tried anything else. Surprisingly good corner grip on the seal, as long as it's dry. Pretty good offroad. Life span is terrible. Price is cheep.
@newbs702 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm using at the moment on the DR. Only riding 3-4 time a month. Good enough.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Any issues with the front wearing into an unusual pattern, Adam? Seems to be a feature of the front D606 according to many DR650 riders. Some opt for the MT21 up front to avoid this.
@adamrichards20722 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure no issues here. Not in great shape at the moment, but it has 10000kms on it. Rear is completely shagged by 2000kms.
@joshadsett48352 жыл бұрын
Yep d606 / 605 cheap butt good
@davidbrenneman285720 күн бұрын
Front D606 is not great on a drz400.
@skrillaguerilla2 жыл бұрын
I've had kenda big blocks, kenda k270 and mitas e-07, happy to say I have never felt like I put the wrong tires on the bike, just may have abused them with unintended road surfaces 😁. the e-07 have been my favorite for what I do with my bike, despite taking a little more effort to get them over the rim. Cant bitch about the price of kendas though!
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I tried an E07 years ago on the DR650, Neil. Really good mileage! It really felt like a 50/50 option to me as it wasn't particularly great on or off road... which is what any 50/50 tyre will be like lol.
@skrillaguerilla2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure absolutely, they are wearing very well so far 👍 keep up the great work, really enjoy the videos👏
@asherlito38012 жыл бұрын
good video, I think the hobby needs to separate dual sports and adv. with dual sports people usually want to ride street while also being able to ride a decent amount of single track. whereas adv riders want to ride on the street for long periods while still being able to do fire roads.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
There's a wide variety out there for sure! I tend to lump them together... in Australia a lot of adventure riders are doing mostly dirt roads and even rough tracks on the big adventure bikes. But from what I've heard the USA scene can be much more about highway touring and only occasional bits of dirt road?
@bicimoto52 жыл бұрын
You are spot on!! Txs for the honest summary
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
i currently have a brand new set of the Motoz Adv tires exact ones you have shown here in the beginning of the video on my 901 , only have 150-200 miles on em thus far so jury is out but tread depth and stiffness of carcass wise they are stout ! i recently tried the K60Ranger and it burnt up as fast as a TKC80 so wont be buyin that again , my go to combo has been TKC80-front and Mitas E07 = rear for the $ but havent been available consistently recently
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I'll be keen to see how you go with them. I'm interested in trying the Motoz Rallz on the DR650. I hate tyre changing with a passion lol. So I'm happy to trade poor road performance for longevity!
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure im planning to roll this weekend for an overnight so we will be trying out the new(ish) rubber and new Tusk Olympus rack/panniers both for their maiden voyage
@robpinter54312 жыл бұрын
Interesting on my recent trip to the OCR2022, there were many different bikes with different tyres, one that stood out was the Motoz Rally Z, and the Mitas E07+, I had a Shinko 705 on the rear which did not last the distance 6000km, whilst the E07+ on other bikes did. I think discussions about tyres should be less about grip and off road performance as opposed to longevity for a big trip. Next time I will use the EO7+ both front and rear, also the Motor Adventure on the front was completely worn out when I got home. What oil do I use......great topic for the next video....
@Wintersdark2 жыл бұрын
I've experience with: Scorpion STR Rally's - *excellent* road performance, decent offroad performance if you're not in mud or sand. Absolutely horrific cold performance. Very loud around 100-120koh but otherwise quiet. These are stock on many modern midsized ADV bikes. Motoz Adventure/Dual Venture/Rallz: the Dual Venture/Rallz combo is imho the best mostly offroad tire combination you can get while still competent on road. Excellent ice and snow performance - I run Adventures now with small street studs all winter (Calgary, Alberta, Canada). Kind of loud, grab splits in pavement/rain grooves, are a bit wobbly on the side of the tire however. Motoz GPS: very strong in the dirt, but shockingly good on road. Extremely good mileage. Excellent ice and snow grip. New formula is much better in rain than the old ones (same as new Heidenau, high silica and natural rubber). This applies to both the adventure and GPS lines; high silica content significantly improves mileage, wet, and cold grip. Very quiet and smooth on the road, particularly for such an aggressive tire. 13.5mm tread depth is nuts. The Motoz tires are expensive, however. Worth it if you pay someone else to change your tires for sure, as they'll save you a couple changes. Maybe cheaper in Oz as they're from there.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I'll find out the Aust price soon, Derrick. I'm intereted in trying the Rallz on the DR650...
@Wintersdark2 жыл бұрын
While you can get paired Rallz, personally I recommend their Dual Venture front and Rallz rear. The Dual Venture front is reversible, designed so you can counter cupping/knob edge wear midway through the tire's life, and is a very high mileage tire to start with, while the Rallz rear is just a *spectacularly* grippy tire though much faster wearing. The Rallz front tends to wear quite fast and for myself and my riding buddies, we've never found it to offer appreciably better grip to be worth the significantly reduced life. Basically, the Dual Venture front is just an amazing tire.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@scottboag47962 жыл бұрын
New bike so I'll fit a brand on the front that I trust, Golden tyre. And going to try the GT 823. On the rear Motoz Rall z. Haven't used either before but it seems the best choice for me.
@EricBanner5712 жыл бұрын
You're right.. Too many variables to recommend one tyre over the other. I tried the D606 on my DRZ as per the intewebs recommendation and was not impressed. Too loud on the tarmac, the rear would loose traction on the rear too easily, the front would track in ruts. Then tried the MT21 and found my tyre. when you look for a tyre that works for you, it needs to be predictable in all conditions. The MT21 rear wears quicker than the MT21 rear but that's a price I'm willing to make.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Yep. In DR650 circles, the D606 rear and MT21 is a popular combination.
@GuillermoHANSZ2 жыл бұрын
After a couple of years with Dunlop Trailmax on my 07 KLR I went for a pair of Dunlop D603. I ride 80% off road so with the previous set I had to be very careful on which road or path I would take. I feel free now.
@Gazza132 жыл бұрын
Just had my 1290 KTM adventure 4 months - already have 11 500 km - had the AX41- excellent tyre both on and off road - but only 3.5k km on front and 2,5 k km on rear... put on a Anakee wild rear - amazing off-road and in mud and loose stuff and gravel roads - loved the tyre but lasted 1.5k km with about 50/50 roads and dirt on my big adventure bike.. Trying the Motoz now ( adventure rear and new dual venture front ) --- the 50/50 type tyres you have in your video for me are no good and too much of a compromise ... not really good off-road and definitely not good on road... so after 4 months - i have invested in a full spoke wheel set with tyres good for off-road and ok on the road - if it is a long trip with road sections - tyre choice is either harder for long distances , so expect less traction , or softer compound for medium trips and expect not to get more then 3k to 4 k KM on the set --- and a set of alloy full wheel set for when i only do road trips with proper road tyres. No more vibrations and no 99 MPH rating restrictions for road trips. ( take me about 30 mins to change wheels over - easy ) . Perfect solution.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Only 1500km, Gary? Damn. I remember using the Dunlop D606 on my old DR650 and never got past 2000km. But I did ride more aggressively then! At least they were cheap... I figure the wider rear for the 1290 must usually be pretty expensive?
@SawyerKnight2 жыл бұрын
my 2 cents: the Tusk D-sport are incredible. low cost, they last longer then most on pavement, and all around good grip on dirt, mud, gravel. I even take them on the sand and still feel comfortable.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem to be available in Australia. The price looks good! www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tires-and-wheels/tusk-dsport%C2%AE-adventure-tire-p
@SawyerKnight2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Dang, sorry to hear that... maybe you can slip a set into your luggage next time you're in Canada? 🙃
@-MORK-2 жыл бұрын
I guess the Wang Chung sponsorship is out the window with content like this.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
😂
@pclaw5240 Жыл бұрын
Hi, put Michelin Anarkee on a Vstrom dl1000, first time ever used this brand. They 80/20, meaning 80% road, 20% dirt. I reckon after 1000+ks the 80/20 should mean 20% less grip on bitumen than a full road tyre, and 80% less grip on dirt than full on knobby. Not saying there bad in either condions, they do help improve your skills in handling a big lard ass bike.
@arnandegans2 жыл бұрын
Battlax A41 works fine in sloppy sand roads - There is no pavement in the town I live in. I have them on my 850GSA. Wobbly where you expect it, grippy where sand layers are thin. While it's a touring tire the big thread grooves seem to work fine for sand roads/hard pack dirt and some gravel at medium speeds. I was pleasantly surprised.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
And I suspect they'd be well priced, Arnan? I used to use Dunlop D606s years ago, great for budget riding...
@arnandegans2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Hmm, pricing is weird here in Mexico. Shinko 705 is more expensive than Pirelli/Bridgestone etc. If I recall correctly I paid some $160US (ish) for the rear tire maybe 5 months ago. Via an amazon like site.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how much prices can vary across different countries, Arnan. I suspect it's often just a greedy distributor sets a high profit margin...
@arnandegans2 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure Here in Mexico there is no real price regulation on anything, so yes, that's for sure.
@rshawiii2 жыл бұрын
My used KLX250 came with a new set of Kenda 270s. These are very similar in tread to the Shinko 244. I'm a newbie rider so I don't know one motorcycle tire from the next. After about 2000 miles of mountain riding, over lots of gravel, rocks, and even a little snow and ice, but no mud/sand and very little asphalt especially wet, I have to say I have no complaints about these tires. They haven't jumped out from under me. The center treads on the rear are worn down about 3mm almost through the little slit feature molded in. I don't know if this good or bad. My biggest concern is getting a flat while deep in our backcountry. So some video or comments on puncture resistance and things to do for that like heavy tubes, rimlocks, etc. Are the shinkos or others better? I can tell you that on vehicles like the jeep or 4runner, running a light truck or 10ply rated tire makes a big difference on our mountain roads. In fact the go to tire for the sheriff department and many locals (including myself) is a hankook dynapro atm 10 ply rated Light Truck tire.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
We are working on a puncture reduction vid now actually.
@glennboy66 Жыл бұрын
For me road is mostly just for getting to the next piece of dirt and legally road speeds are so slow in OZ I find it doesn't matter unless wet. Big bike Motoz tractionator or rail z with Pirelli MT21 front, little bike Michellin starcross front and a knobbie in winter like golderntyre, motoz desert HT or dunlop 606, summer motoz hybrid but it all depends on your type of riding. Oh on the small 250cc bikes dont go for a big wide tyre as it just drags the hell out of the power.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
Everyone I ride with tries to ride dirt roads as much as possible so we aren't worried about on-road performance. It's more just trying to get some longevity out of the rubber, and not too much road noise I guess.
@barrymurphy35542 жыл бұрын
Nice one Boys Your right I am a old person riding my Son just say leave it in third gear & hold it flat. Bikes are amazing now days Guaranteed a good rider on a 30 to 40 year old bike would still beat most People So as the older you get you become smarter lighter bike trying not to break any records or bones. So True love the Videos Boys great work
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@ribamaniacs17156 ай бұрын
heidenau k74 rear and in the front the michelin tracker or the starcross5 hard
@craigkennedy5328 Жыл бұрын
After the original Bridgestone Trail Wings on my DR650, fitted Heidenau K60 Scouts. Much better handling with good grip on bitumen, dirt and over rocks. No noise and smooth. Seem durable with good longevity. Plenty of tread still left after 3000klm (mostly bitumen). Expecting well beyond 6000klm before replacement. However, recently noticed that 120/90-17 rear tyres aren’t available in Australia ATM which is disappointing. Hope they will be available in the future. Otherwise not sure how K60 Scout 130/80-17 rear tyres will go on the DR650. Plan on sticking with Heidenau K60 Scouts.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
My brother is thinking of trying those next on his DR650, keen to see how they go.
@craigkennedy5328 Жыл бұрын
The Heidenau K60 are a real bugger to install and remove because of their hard compound and stiff walls. However, the stiff walls are a safety option if you have a puncture at high speed and the tyre could potentially be ridden flat until you find a spot to fix the tube. Bought the MotionPro bead buddy and BeadPro levers which makes changing slightly easier. I thought they were good value a while back at $295 front and back so I bought a spare set. But they’re no longer at that price unfortunately.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up, Craig. He's got a set ready to put on so we'll leave them in the sun to warm up. And he's got some bead buddies and a tyre changing rig.
@mmaaddict782 жыл бұрын
I’m currently running a set of Motoz Tractionator Adventure tires on my 1200gs. The traction is great off and on road, but on the road they are super loud. Sounds like an air raid siren going down the road. Had Shinko 705’s that were good on dry pavement and hard packed dirt. If the conditions are wet, the 705’s didn’t perform very well on or off-road.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Bummer about the road noise, I figure that's even with road PSI? One of our guys is thinking of these for his GS1200... motoz.com.au/product/tractionator-adventure/
@mmaaddict782 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure I run 30 psi on the road. I believe the tires say 34 psi max. The noise isn’t so bad with ear plugs which I hardly ever bother with. The performance, durability and wear life are worth the noise in my opinion.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I wear ear plugs every ride so tyre noise doesn't worry me much.
@ericcournoyer15952 жыл бұрын
Love the D606 off road. Feel so much more comfident....specially in the wet. Unfortunately I had a few scary 'wabbly' incidents on the highway at 110-120. Border line tank slapp... Never happened with the wings. I did the switch myself so mayble tire balance is off ??? In lower speed twisties (50-80k) they are flawless. I have 1600 k on them so far.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I used to run them all the time, Eric. For years they had a very good local deal on them including fitting...
@ArvidElstrodt2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid again ! Now please do a video on what oil to choose :-)
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
I did that one a few years ago, Arvid 😊
@BadgerMcblasty2 жыл бұрын
I originally had a set of Pirelli scorpion MT21, then went to a Motoz adventure on the front and Maxxis 6006 on the back, I really like the Maxxis, the adventure is a bit floaty on tar. Saying that, the DRs’ handling ( over all ) is much better now though, especially cornering
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Anything that stops a DR650 from trying to kill us has to be a good thing 👍😎
@paulhenderson53992 жыл бұрын
I have had tkc80s and tkc70 (rocks rear) on my cb500x. 80s are slightly better in poor conditions off road but I did a day of TET with the 70s and it was no bother...
@dirtysquatch70362 жыл бұрын
Xj600 shinko 705 f & r, dr350s mc360 mid/hard rear shinko 216 fatty front, dr650 motoz mtn hybrid front shinko 244 or d606 depending on my ride planned. Going to try the shinko fatty on the 650 next. It really does come down to rider experience. Just buy a set of tires and try them out. Learn to change your own tires! It's super easy and free!
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Interesting combo! My brother is putting a Shinko 705 on his DR650 when the rear wears out, keen to see what it's like...
@dirtysquatch70362 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure every bike will be different..my xj600 i could do 20-35 on packed gravel fire roads with the 705 at 20-25 psi rear 25 front.....my dr650 with dunlop d605 front did pretty well. Now the 605 on my dr350s...not the best. Im guessing from there being less weight. The 350 is about 100 lbs less than the 650. And I'm getting about 3k miles out of the shinko fatty on the 350..would get more if I didn't brake so hard, but that bike is so much fun blasting around the country side.
@dirtysquatch70362 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure I actually took my xj600 out in November in some light powder snow (1-2 inches gravel road)with the 705s...they did waaay better than I expected...I do run lower tire pressure though.
@omicrondec Жыл бұрын
0:43 leaving out all of us who obsess over both! 😅
@diegos31172 жыл бұрын
Yama xtz 125. F 80/90-21 R 110/80-18 Really har to find tires. Currenting using metzeler enduro 3 sahara But the R is a 4.00-18. Works nice on the asphalt and adventure. Well balanced.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
The inevitable compromise... road and dirt!
@bryanreeme85842 жыл бұрын
I have 4500m on my Rallz (gen2 klr), the front is spent but I'll get another thousand on the rear.. I'll use the same again if I can find them ok, good stuff
@stevenperry46322 жыл бұрын
I’m running a Motoz Mountain x hybrid trials ish rear on my Fe501 doing short adventures and trail riding its doing extremely well so far other then it being a rock thrower at anyone following behind
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
The good old Bergs! I still miss my old FE570, Steve.
@firstamendmenttshirt47682 жыл бұрын
I thought it was what the manual was going to say? Lol..what the tire is made out of would be the correct choice. Choice Rating: Sand, snow, mud, rain, gravel. Pick 2 of the 5 type's of tire rating. Anyways mt 21 rallycross 90 10. 200 on them still over half tread and 4 stroke all Street. Was I using it wrong? lol. Kenda big block next.
@ride4adventure Жыл бұрын
I have some 50/50 Mitas E-07 on a new KTM 890 Adventure R. At first I thought they would be awful looking at the tread however they are good on the road (quiet too) and surprisingly good on gravel and hard pack dirt with excellent stopping grip in the dirt & gravel. However I have found that in soft sand, they wander and are harder to keep straight. This is where your point about 80% rider skill comes in to it and I know that soft sand is my weakest skill and contributes to the feeling in soft sand. I haven't done enough kms on the new bike to talk about wear. I have run Motoz RallZ on my KTM 1090 AR and they are excellent in dirt and good in soft sand. Road performance is good enough as long as you don't give it a fist full in the corners but they are noisy as hell.
@crosstrainingadventure Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminder, I tried one of these years ago and like it... and I need a new rear soon!
@doatdove606111 ай бұрын
Bs A41 on my 800 Xcx .. great on tar and hard gravel ,, but spiritual the mud ..
@trailtrashgarage2 жыл бұрын
I use what ever is the cheapest 50/50 tire I can find on my DRZ usually a Shinko 244 but my riding buddy is slowly convincing me to try a set of Motoz Tractionator Adventure’s
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
The Shinko 244 rear definitely last a long time. I think I've had mine on for 5000km now and there's plenty of tread left.
@leon2400 Жыл бұрын
Unless dangerous for your use... Choose the cheapest. In western Europe Mitas E07 and Heidenau k60 are cheap for what they offer.
@bensnipes72882 жыл бұрын
Still love the MT21 front, D606 rear on my Bush Pig (Forest Rat here in the U.S.) Get about 2.5 K Miles out of the rear, 4 to 5 K out of the front. I only ride pavement to get to the mountains.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Very popular combo here too, Ben
@tassieadventurerider48152 жыл бұрын
For me personally on the DR 650… Dunlop 606 for winter and Mitas E07+ for summer.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Based on road temperatures cause more wear as the rubber heats up?
@tassieadventurerider48152 жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingadventure for me it’s the type of riding I do In Tassie. Wet mud, soft tracks in winter and dry dirt roads and hard trails in the summer ect… I still run the 606 front all year but swap rears based on the season….
@mechanicalman10682 жыл бұрын
I kind of put tire recommendations on the same level as horse racing picks. I really don’t have access to the people who really have the expertise, and the people who are always giving out advice are the ones picking up betting tickets off the floor after a race in the hope someone threw away a winner because none of theirs did. So I look at reviews, do my best to parse everything and make what is hopefully an informed decision. Then I wrestle the new tires on the bike and ride just as poorly as before. That said, I unfortunately ride a lot of gravel and otherwise loose rock over hard pack surfaces, and in these cases even I definitely notice the difference.
@crosstrainingadventure2 жыл бұрын
Love the horse racing analogy, Matt! Yeah I've noticed the riders who are most keen to give opinions usually know the least. The really experienced riders know there are so many factors involved they'll be reluctant to give an opinion as it probably won't suit others.