Best Way to Fertilize - Hoss Tools Fertilizer Injector

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Today Greg walks us through the Hoss Tools Fertilizer Injector. Everything you need to know about fertilizing your plants with this amazing tool is in this video. Greg breaks everything out of the box and goes step by step on assembly, calculating correct pressure, and what fertilizer to use!
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@davidward1259
@davidward1259 Жыл бұрын
I went back to watch this video again as I finally bought an injector. I just realized in the section about flo-disks, Greg cited the flows in GPM (gallons per minute) where it should be GPH (gallons per hour). Same in the chart they showed (should be GPH). It's correct when he did his examples afterwards though (GPH)
@reyray5
@reyray5 21 күн бұрын
i just viewed the video and thought Gallons Per Minute??? are people hooking this up to a fire hydrant??
@sydneybrooks7419
@sydneybrooks7419 3 жыл бұрын
This was so informative!! Thanks Hoss!!👍👍
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@carolavant3778
@carolavant3778 3 жыл бұрын
That new model sure is pretty! I've got the older on and (knock wood) it's still goin' strong! I just love that thing!
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Right on
@nickka2009
@nickka2009 Жыл бұрын
got me excited to buy. especially after I got my soil test back from the lab. Man versus plants! I'm ready!
@butterflyj685
@butterflyj685 2 жыл бұрын
I just got both mine in the mail a few days ago!!! Thanks!
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Great!
@jim-qz7up
@jim-qz7up 3 жыл бұрын
been waiting on this video
@terrysullens6835
@terrysullens6835 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my injector last year and used it for my fall garden and again this spring. I have 15 plots of 1000 sq. ft. each, all on that good Hoss drip tape, so this thing gets quite a bit of use. All that leading up to this; I thank you for the injector as well as the video Please keep up the most bodaciously excellent work
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@melvinreeves3674
@melvinreeves3674 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for information just ordered it
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the order Melvin! Let us know if you have any questions on it!
@melvinreeves3674
@melvinreeves3674 3 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss 0k
@melvinreeves3674
@melvinreeves3674 2 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss working great best thing I ever used
@caseyturner8773
@caseyturner8773 Жыл бұрын
Sold
@garyschmelzer
@garyschmelzer 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny you just post this video I was going to be ordering a set of flo discs today I seem to have lost mine for my fertilizer injector I have the 2 gallon model was thinking of downsizing to the smaller injector
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Mike_B_724
@Mike_B_724 2 жыл бұрын
If you're doing hand watering in a small garden, would you just use the smallest flow disk? I just have a small (8'x10') greenhouse with a couple raised beds and some pots. For something that small, would I be better off with this or just the Siphon Mixer?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Siphon Mixer
@donnawynn9143
@donnawynn9143 2 жыл бұрын
I asked my husband to look at your video and he is very confused because, what you mention in this video and the on line manual is "gal per min versus gal per hour". My husband didnt want to use his time to confront this, however I thought the viewers really needed to realize the difference is quite large.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
gallons per hour
@charlesmccullough2386
@charlesmccullough2386 3 жыл бұрын
Greg I've got soaker hoses and eventually will change over to y'all's drip tape as they wear out But I was wondering if I could use yalls fertilizer injector on a soaker hose until I eventually change over
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see why not. the only problem is soaker hoses are not consistent.
@1954rushing
@1954rushing 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use this injector with master blend liquid fertilizer for my garden? Also I'm confused with the instructions when using the flow disk. My direction for my fertilizer says to use 8oz. per 100 gallons of water. If I use a flow disk how many ounces should I use? Thanks in advance for your help.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
The flo disc is only used if you have a small garden. I am not sure what a master blend fertilizer is. If it's water-soluble, it should work.
@amarkhanna6518
@amarkhanna6518 2 жыл бұрын
is there a replacement seal available for the lid? i seem to have lost it and every time it gets pressurized it leaks water and fertilizer.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
yes we do, give us a call as it is not on our website 2297693863
@rustinpeace7466
@rustinpeace7466 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a good budget option compared to an all out dosatron system.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@robertmorris2087
@robertmorris2087 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question about this. I'm watering my garden with a 575 gallon water tank and have it plumbed with 3/4 pvc and drip tape. Could I use this without having to use something to push the pressure?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
This is from our website. Hope it helps. Drip systems with less than 120 gallons per hour (GPH) water flow may require a Flo-Disc in order to inject the solution into the drip system. There are three discs provided for these conditions. Important: You must have colored fertilizer in the injection tank or food dye to adjust the system. Let the system run for a few minutes to make sure the fertilizer is not flowing before installing or changing the Flo Disc. If there is no color in the clear tube, the system is not flowing, and a more restrictive Flo-Disc is required for operation. White Flo-Disc 120 to 60 gph Black Flo-Disc 60 to 30 gph Red Flo-Disc 30 to 7.5 gph Note: The Flo-Disc is not intended for pressure reduction and cannot be used for this purpose. The Flo-Disc will create additional bypass through the tank when necessary to speed up injection.
@guillo2245
@guillo2245 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. How is it that the water flow goes in the black tube but not the transparent one? Just a doubt i have. THanks!
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a private video that goes into more detail. studio.kzbin.infoPO_LrboqHcc/edit
@Chris-op7yt
@Chris-op7yt 3 жыл бұрын
awaiting delivery of the tank injector. my tap puts out 150psi. should i still install before the tape regulator combo?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
150psi is way too much. You will need to get it below 80psi for the injector and 50psi for the drip tape.
@Chris-op7yt
@Chris-op7yt 3 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss : the regulator combo does that. i have bought a separate pressure regulator 50psi that i'm currently using for hose. maybe i should put that regulator before tap and have all outputs 50psi?
@norcoatomik1
@norcoatomik1 2 жыл бұрын
You guys would sell way more if there was an indoor version for these fertilizer injectors I see it over and over again these high gpm or gph ratings only applied to massive grows , I need a system that is presice and lower gpm or gph ratings since I'd only be irrigating 4 plants, cannibis is legalized I'm surprised nobody is going for it . Crazy maybe I should invest, I need a ratio of like 1:300 fert:water and be able to adjust precisely over time , so I think I'm stuck with going with the dosatron or something similar
@calittlegarden-3311
@calittlegarden-3311 8 ай бұрын
just second time used, the cape area leak very bad. the big back washer just not stay in place. how to fix it?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 8 ай бұрын
Try putting some Vaseline on washer. It will help it stay in place. If you continue to have issues, contact customer service at 1-888-672-5536
@marcusjohnson8608
@marcusjohnson8608 2 жыл бұрын
do this only work on a drip system, or can i just use this on a water hose ?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
You do not have to have a drip system for it to work.
@davidkoch733
@davidkoch733 Ай бұрын
Do you need a flow disc if you have a pressure reducer on?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Ай бұрын
Drip systems with less than 120 gallons per hour (GPH) water flow may require a Flo-Disc in order to inject the solution into the drip system. There are three discs provided for these conditions. Important: You must have colored fertilizer in the injection tank or food dye to adjust the system. Let the system run for a few minutes to make sure the fertilizer is not flowing before installing or changing the Flo Disc. If there is no color in the clear tube, the system is not flowing, and a more restrictive Flo-Disc is required for operation. White Flo-Disc 120 to 60 gph Black Flo-Disc 60 to 30 gph Red Flo-Disc 30 to 7.5 gph Note: The Flo-Disc is not intended for pressure reduction and cannot be used for this purpose. The Flo-Disc will create additional bypass through the tank when necessary to speed up injection.
@user-wi8pp1cp4o
@user-wi8pp1cp4o Жыл бұрын
i have a 107639 sqaure foot what kind of fertilizer injector do i need
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Жыл бұрын
Here is a link to ours hosstools.com/product/hoss-fertilizer-injector/. You may need more than one.
@Shadowfax2121
@Shadowfax2121 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this, I did not know about the range of flow which will help. I have some Mystery Meat "NETAFILM" drip tape with 18" Spacing. Blasted package doesn't say what the flow rate is of the emitters but I found on their website it lists @ 10psi - "0.16, 0.24, 0.36" Gallons/Hour-Emitter. With 600 feet of rows, my guess is that is below the minimum just like with my siphon injector. Unless I am wrong? Please tell me I am wrong, those rows are getting TIGHT :-|
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Something looks off,("0.16, 0.24, 0.36" Gallons/Hour-Emitter). That is very low.
@Shadowfax2121
@Shadowfax2121 3 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss Yeah I know right? I got a spool of 3k feet for nearly free (NETAFILM 16080 / 638008). Went with surface and the line expands/contracts and even with staples it walks all over my onions. Need the wheel hoe and next year bury this stuff... Not knowing the flow rate is a serious hamper though, I absolutely hate hand-fertilizing almost 1k plants :-|
@tracker1ify
@tracker1ify 2 жыл бұрын
when you showed the chart for the gallons per minute, should that be gallons per hour?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@mrmanown
@mrmanown Жыл бұрын
Can you put the brass injector fitting in front of the pressure regulator too?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can
@mrmanown
@mrmanown Жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss Is there any benefit having it behind the regulator?
@marcusjohnson8608
@marcusjohnson8608 2 жыл бұрын
How much fertilizer do i put in the Hoss can, im gone use it on a water hose? the kind i use cause for me to use 1 teaspoon of water soluble to 1 gal of water. So how much water soluble fertilizer do i need to put in the hoss can?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
depends on what you are fertilizing and how many rows you are watering. Also depends on your soil. In general, when using our Hoss Fertilizer Injector, mix 1-2 lbs of 20-20-20 per 1,000 square feet of garden. Apply every 2-3 weeks or as plants appear to need it.
@johnmscott4673
@johnmscott4673 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a distributor in Australia? Thanks
@kentwilson7080
@kentwilson7080 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they did the shipping is a killer to Queensland.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
No, we have tried before and it did not work out.
@chesterandchristiedavis7134
@chesterandchristiedavis7134 3 жыл бұрын
So if I am running 22 drip lines at 35 ft each then my total footage is 770ft and at .4 gpm per hundred ft of tape...I would take 24X8 for a total of 192 gpm so I would need no flow disk for my set up...just checking to see if I got formula figuring down pat
@NCF8710
@NCF8710 3 жыл бұрын
770 ft of drip tape at 0.4 gpm / 100 ft = 3.1 gpm or 185 gallons per HOUR. Typically, 100 ft of 3/4" garden hose at 40 PSI can deliver about 12 gpm.
@chesterandchristiedavis7134
@chesterandchristiedavis7134 3 жыл бұрын
@@NCF8710 OK I see where I went wrong I got it figured for gph instead of gpm after going back and watching video again but know that leads me to this question why did he figure up .4 X 60 for a 100 ft row to come up with his amount when that figures gph and the flow disk is gpm or so it says...so could he have made a mistake and the flow disk is gph instead?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
If your GPH is over 12, you don't need a flo disc.
@CraigDAL12
@CraigDAL12 2 жыл бұрын
My pressure is 95psi so I want to know if it will work if i put the brass connector for the injector after the reduction to 12psi since the tank is only rated to 80psi?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
no, the 12 PSI regulator will not work. You need to get your PSI under 50 for it to work
@CraigDAL12
@CraigDAL12 2 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss Sorry if I'm confused, my drip tape works fine on the 12 psi, it is well under the 50psi, why can I not just plumb in the injector after the 12psi reduction?
@TonyDL
@TonyDL Жыл бұрын
@@CraigDAL12 The injector requires higher pressure to operate. So I think he's referring to regulating your INPUT side to less than 50psi, then reduce to 12psi for your drip tape. So seems like they want the input range to be 40-50psi.
@dahveedl3133
@dahveedl3133 Жыл бұрын
My stats...12x30 garden, 4 rows irrigated with Hoss small garden drip system, drip emitters every 6in putting out .5GPH, add up all the emitters I get 240 @ .5gph = 120gph. Tomatoes are the crop, soil is very high fertility loam/Herrick, zone 6b, did the 5 gallon bucket flow test and timed it at 60 seconds to fill the 5 gallon bucket. So thats 300 gallons per hour flow volume. Water pressure is under 50psi. I also use a 25psi regulater AFTER the spigot and BEFORE the Hoss regulator/filter on the drip irrigation. My question is with all these numbers how do I figure the amount of product to mix into the Hoss EZ flow tank? Im using the Hoss calcium nitrate, micro nutrients and the 20 20 20 fertilizer. My preference is to water weekly with a reduced feeding rate rather than dumping product on the crop all at once. Even every three or four days with even a lower rate suits me. Thanks, loving the small garden irrigation setup.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Жыл бұрын
I would start with: 3-5 cups 20-20-20 4 cups Micro Boost Then the next week: 3-5 cups calcium Nitrate 4 cups Micro Boost Watch your plants and adjust accordingly. Greg
@dahveedl3133
@dahveedl3133 Жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss Thanks Greg. I will go with the lower rate and see what happens. I appreciate your prompt response and ongoing product support. All the best to you and yours.
@ansoningold5472
@ansoningold5472 Жыл бұрын
How would you know if your flow disc was too small?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Жыл бұрын
Important: You must have colored fertilizer in the injection tank or food dye to adjust the system. Let the system run for a few minutes to make sure the fertilizer is not flowing before installing or changing the Flo Disc. If there is no color in the clear tube, the system is not flowing, and a more restrictive Flo-Disc is required for operation. FLO-DISC White Flo-Disc 120 to 60 gph Black Flo-Disc 60 to 30 gph Red Flo-Disc 30 to 7.5 gph Note: The Flo-Disc is not intended for pressure reduction and cannot be used for this purpose. The Flo-Disc will create additional bypass through the tank when necessary to speed up injection.
@darkeller16
@darkeller16 Ай бұрын
I still can't figure out a simple method to determine how much fertilizer to add. Does 1/2 cup of 20-20-20 water soluble per 10' of row vegetables sound about right???
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Ай бұрын
Yes, exactly About ½ cup of garden fertilizer for every 10 feet of row usually is enough. The amount and timing of fertilizer needed varies according to the type of vegetable planted. Side dressing increases the yield of most vegetables. Fertilize fall gardens in the same way as spring gardens.
@berrisbogle
@berrisbogle 3 жыл бұрын
Can I mix the organic fertilizer in a water can and feed my vegetables with it?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Our Complete Organic Fertilizer is not water soluble. So it can not be put in the injector.
@berrisbogle
@berrisbogle 3 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss do you think the company will do organic liquid fertilizer because at this moment everything I used in my garden is liquid organic produce I am thinking about trying the Micronutrients you guys bring it looks really good.
@autohelix
@autohelix 3 жыл бұрын
Just use a fish fertilizer.
@trevormeyer2820
@trevormeyer2820 Жыл бұрын
Can this stay pressurized when not in use?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Жыл бұрын
If an injector will not be used for an extended period, it should be removed from service. Flush the system with clean water, either by pumping water through the unit before removing it or by rinsing these parts after removal. When the injector is removed from service it should be drained completely to prevent water from freezing inside during the colder months. During the hot summer, it is recommend to not leave it out in the hot sun for extended period of time when not in use.
@trevormeyer2820
@trevormeyer2820 Жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss in my case, I'd like to place inside a well house (indoors) during the summer to feed 14 different zones. I'd like to just leave it on the high pressure side, before the manifold, during the spring and early summer. That way I don't have to move it from zone to zone since they all need the same treatment. It will have to be refilled at least 7 times, but at least I wouldn't have to move it constantly. Would this be a safe use case? It would then be removed and washed late summer and stored
@michaelr.williams8176
@michaelr.williams8176 3 жыл бұрын
Good sales pitch nice cardboard box makes a good trash can just don’t let it get nice and wet but do like the injector. I would buy one
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@boltgun7266
@boltgun7266 3 жыл бұрын
The flow disk is a pain. Mine turns sideways. I'm going to cut some mesh and put over it
@garyschmelzer
@garyschmelzer 3 жыл бұрын
You can go to the hardware store and find you a small compression spring and slide it in there and put it up against the flow disc
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Use a dab of Vaseline or go with Gary's suggestion.
@zwtrussell4517
@zwtrussell4517 3 жыл бұрын
I had this problem also. When you install the disc get everything set and turn on the water supply. Make sure that the two black cutoff are off. Let the drip tape fill up. Then turn on the black tubing valve then wait about 10 seconds then turn on the clear tubing valve. If you put something into the brass fitting you may block the small hole going to the tank through the black tubing. I found that when you turn off the main water supply to the tank and have a back flow valve the water knock the flow disc off it’s seat. Any back flow will knock the disc off it’s seat.
@benb7727
@benb7727 3 жыл бұрын
Love your products, but never used this. Tell me how this is better than a syphon hose and a 5 gallon bucket.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
It is used for irrigation systems such as drip system. The Hose syphon will not work on a irrigation system.
@benb7727
@benb7727 2 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss Been running a syphon hose and a 5 gallon bucket on drip for 10 years. Works great.
@Chris-op7yt
@Chris-op7yt 2 жыл бұрын
something is not quite adding up for me. the tape is rated at 0.48 gallons per minute per 100 foot. So to just get into red disc range (say 48 gpm) you would need 10,000 feet of tape. I have a small plot, with roughly 200 feet of tape laid out into rows. i'll try red disc. oh, the figures you have is gallons per hour; not per minute. cool.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Let us know if you have any other questions
@coreyburnell77
@coreyburnell77 3 жыл бұрын
The cap isn’t big around enough it’s a pain to pour fertilizer into such a small hole works great though
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@gregsalyer8458
@gregsalyer8458 2 жыл бұрын
I am a bit confused. The chart you display shows GPM gallons per minute I assume. But when you explain it you seem to be referring to gallons per hour. I have installed about 600 ft of your drip tape plus I have some straw Bale gardening setup with drip emitters on the same line. I can fill a 5 gallon bucket in 35 seconds straight out of the faucet. I go from the injector into a 3/4 PVC pipe which runs the length of my garden. Off of this PVC pipe I have 5 faucets spaced about every 20 ft. Each faucet goes to a section of main line and then out to four to six rows of drip tape. With this setup can I fertilize the entire garden at once or should I try to do it in sections? Do I need a flow disc? I don't think so but the GPM/GPH has me confused.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 2 жыл бұрын
No, you do not need a flow disc, according to my math. If you need to talk further, call the customer service number and ask for Greg
@Doxie1914
@Doxie1914 3 жыл бұрын
Per minute? Or per hour?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
our drip tape output is .4 gal per 100ft. per minute.
@rickleffel256
@rickleffel256 3 жыл бұрын
Should your chat be in GHP not GPM you could not flow the amounts in your chart at GPM with a city water supply a hose would not do 70 GPM
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
Some folks have wells that will do 70gpm and more. Most city systems work within the requirements of the irrigation kit.
@Roboslack
@Roboslack Жыл бұрын
All is A OK until you begin to talk about the "Flo Discs" - I'm sorry Greg but teaching my ex-wife to drive a standard shift tractor was easier than following your Start-Stop rinse and repeat instructions. I also followed Travis's instructions with the same result. I have ordered my injector system and must call when I put it to use. I am worried about blowing the hoses and drip lines out. Thanks, but is there anyone who can explain the math involved over the flow discs?
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss Жыл бұрын
Drip systems with less than 120 gallons per hour (GPH) water flow may require a Flo-Disc in order to inject the solution into the drip system. There are three discs provided for these conditions. Important: You must have colored fertilizer in the injection tank or food dye to adjust the system. Let the system run for a few minutes to make sure the fertilizer is not flowing before installing or changing the Flo Disc. If there is no color in the clear tube, the system is not flowing, and a more restrictive Flo-Disc is required for operation. FLO-DISC White Flo-Disc 120 to 60 gph Black Flo-Disc 60 to 30 gph Red Flo-Disc 30 to 7.5 gph Note: The Flo-Disc is not intended for pressure reduction and cannot be used for this purpose. The Flo-Disc will create additional bypass through the tank when necessary to speed up injection.
@tomatoman60
@tomatoman60 9 ай бұрын
Should say gallons per hour not gallons per minute
@NCF8710
@NCF8710 3 жыл бұрын
Gallons per minute? I think you mean gallons per hour.
@gardeningwithhoss
@gardeningwithhoss 3 жыл бұрын
No, our drip tape output is .4 gal per 100ft. per minute.
@NCF8710
@NCF8710 3 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss @7:08 Your chart is in gallons per minute. 120 gpm is fire hose territory.
@darrelbyler6253
@darrelbyler6253 3 жыл бұрын
@@gardeningwithhoss the flow disk is rated gph, not gpm.on your screen you have it gpm.
@bobhope521
@bobhope521 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrelbyler6253 this confused me too had to go back and read directions to make sure i remembered correctly
@big97redtj
@big97redtj 2 жыл бұрын
They obviously aren't good with math.
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