BEST WEAPONS + GRENADES VS TIER 10 ILLUMINATES (Vanguard Force) | Helldivers 2

[@brains84]

Crossbow is S-tier all day against the illuminate. I can solo tier 10s with the crossbow.

[@Saucychemist]

One thing that is another plus for the plasma punisher is that it staggers/stuns harvesters, which is hilarious. Doesn't kill them for crap, but staggering them while you run for cover to get a reload on your support has saved me a few times. Plasma punisher is a primary that really hits higher tier with me when you are using it with another teammate next to you. Your cc is really valuable when someone else is helping put out the damage you are missing. Otherwise i agree it belongs in B tier if you are solo.

[@KerriganTyranid]

Although I don't agree 100% with all placements, it is the most realistic Tier List vs Squids so far that I watched. All guns feel at least decent to use vs Squids. This is the easiest of all 3 factions simply because there are no medium pen enemies like devastators, rocket striders, gunships, spewers, hive guards, etc. We can drop with a cadet build (liberator, peacemaker, MMG) and full clear easily a Squid Super Helldive.

[@TryhardSteve]

Thermite has been great for me when paired with the crossbow. Take down the harvester shields and hit a sticky, then I forget about it. Have never had it not oneshot the Harvester when the grenade sticks

[@SpruceReduce8854]

I've had problems with the thermite bouncing off harvesters to the point where I've stopped using it in illuminate missions

[@GrubKiller436]

@@SpruceReduce8854 It's literally so annoying. I use the anti-lightning armor so I can walk up to the Harvesters. Then I say "did that just bounce off the harvester?!" Unbelievable.

[@Cootjeeee]

The thermite bounces off every time tho ???

[@dalebrann6312]

I’ve stopped using it against illuminate now, potato mashers always been my go to for the others since the buff, always been my “parry this you….” Sticking it on underside seemed to be the play before I dropped it, getting to the underside without arc armour is another story all together

[@jacula9583]

Scorcher A tier ? Once again courtmartial.

[@gVert404]

nah A tier is valid, it doesn’t have enough ammo to comfortably handle the hordes without ammo armor or supply pack

[@shadowwarrior7302]

facts

[@PIGEON5265]

I really appreciate the democratic kitty on the left. ❤

[@joshuapelletier8219]

Not putting crossbow in S tier is crazy. Nothing even comes close to it. S tier should just be renamed crossbow tier. And I say that as someone who hates using it.

[@Bluberry31]

I've been using the pummeler for the 'tier 2' ememys, especially the jetpack ones, cause you can shoot them a few times in the front and while stunned, run behind them and shoot the jetpack

[@samwild6630]

The explosive immune/resistant shields are fine as they are. Heavy explosives are already reallly good against terminids and bots, so this is a good change up. A lot of the weapons that were just mediocre have been great vs illuminate. It makes you play differently. I'm not an incendiary shotgun fan, for the same reason as I dont really like the concussion liberator or pummler. I'd rather just kill the horde and not think about them than wait around and be pushed back.

[@fuzzydragon]

The trick with the dagger is to aim for the legs of voteles, it pops them shockingly fast

[@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1]

Very nice, long video like with the Stratagems again. And again I will edit my comment on the fly if I massively disagree with something. But why do you say the explosive damage is an Issue? Explosives don't work because many troops have armor plates and shields block large impacts, not small bullets. It's perfectly fine and stopping the Recoilles fetishists from being the dominant force on 3 fronst, instead of "just" 2. Give ballistics some love man. The new Killzone AR is an A tier for me, it just kinda clicks with me. Works great on Squids. What I feared became true, you do not value the glorious Blitzer as you should. You don't need range, everything comes into range by it's own, even the fly boys. It is utterly goated on Squids.

[@Darrenrulestheworld]

I personally don't see the explosive resistance of Harvesters or spaceship shields as an issue either, I think it's just a different style of play and opens the game up

[@MaplewoodLIVE]

Explosive weapons are working just fine vs the troopers never mentioned them its vs the shields of the ground UFO's and harvester arms (no armor)/ shield generators. The arms and ships shields don't take any explosive armor no matter what oddly take a GL and spam them you'll see what I mean, if its intentional its a very odd choice and inconsistent. Range is important to me lowers risk and very rewarding but honestly there's going to be many situations a jetpack trooper just isn't in range of the 25m of the Blitzer not to mention the inconsistencies of any arc weapon. If you manage to tag the jetpack trooper it can be easy clean up but id rather not have to get so close and risk them nailing me 3 times in the head haha. Like I said at the start the tierlist would include the ability to kill or harm a harvester and blitzer just cant really compete with other weapons there. Never said it was a bad weapon just had a ton of trouble with one of the areas of scrutiny!

[@DEXTR3ME]

Been playing around with Eruptor + Arc Thrower. Both are a bit inconsistent, but when they hit they hit hard. Eruptor can deal a lot of dmg to Harvesters.

[@kix2702]

i hope the illuminate keep their explosive resistance. it’s pretty much the only reason we are taking different stratagems against them.

[@wj5611]

Nice feline

[@retroplayer56]

If you’re not willing to drive your self to the brink of insanity trying to make a comprehensive stratagem combo tier list, then you must not really want my sub. Crazy… I though you actually liked me

[@Jaeger_89]

Light Pen needs some balance. You never see light pen weapons making it to S-tier. The dynamic between Medium X Light needs to be looked into. Illuminate definitely make light pen more viable, but still...

[@JonthanWardlaw-tc6xr]

Throwing knives stuns overseers. It’s a great back up for ow crap all my ammo is gone and this overseer is charging me. Toss smacks it it’s stunned. Works even with full shields/amor

[@treysosa683]

Oh nah he's trolling

[@BradMeanswrgi]

I love the crisper. You can usually kill an oversee-er in 70-90% of the canister, which depletes quickly which means high dps. I found it great as a pocket flamethrower for small bunches of voteless and a good backup for single target oversee-ers if your ammo hungry AR mag runs out. Ammo around the cities made its ammo economy much better too.

[@tonsoffunwiththejohnsons9094]

I don’t think he’s played with all the weapons.

[@robertlewis6855]

Crossbow Laser pistol Incendiary nade Directional shield AMR Orbital laser Machine gun sentry Arc armor or kill zone armor Pop the harvester shield horn from a distance and then pick off their leg joint or leave them for others with more heavy weapons.

[@willybiggs-rj6qt]

if dominator is S then Scorcher is S+ cmon now

[@MaplewoodLIVE]

Remember the tierlist takes into account how it does vs the harvester, it has a really hard time vs them where as the dominator can in fact dominate them!

[@TheChampionofthepeople]

If you think for a moment that the Adjudicator is better than the sickle, you’re delusional. Disliking this video

[@GrubKiller436]

Adjudicator is medium pen. Sickle is light pen. The hell you talking about?

[@laurencemallows1356]

Sickle really isn’t great. Wind up +light pen + plenty of ammo negating heat sink adv means the sickle is just very meh