Best Workflow for Battery 4 in Ableton Live

The best way to use Battery 4 in Ableton Live, showing the name of the samples in the Midi Editor.

[@jayhu6075]

This is so great solution to use Battery 4 in Live. Many thanks.

[@meridjal]

This mean we have 4 instances of battery one for each drum shot, it seems a bit wasteful of computer resources.

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

It was the only way I could find to allow Ableton to name the instances of the cells in Battery inside the piano roll. Maybe Ableton will overcome this in a future update ;)

[@andreumateulamas]

At least I finally find a video that explains how to use Battery 4 in Ableton.

[@kursesandkarma3224]

What I just learned in 6 min. & 44 seconds was amazing. Thanks my friend. That was awesome! I subscribed for sure!

[@creatingspacesproducer]

You can also create a seperate midi track with an empty drumrack on it and have the battery track receive the midi from it. You don't have nice colors but works perfect and with only one instance.

[@BrassicaMusic]

Thanks so much, I've never considered this way! I'm also adding a 'Pitch' midi plugin in front of each Battery instance, so I can cycle through Kicks, Snares, etc that I have laid out in Battery then saving that Drum Rack as a giant drum playground :)

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

I'm glad you liked it!

[@seangill2413]

This is the answer I’ve been searching for, thank you so much!

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

I`m really glad to help bro!

[@donchuru]

I found very useful the mapping you are doing in drumrack to battery 4, that allows me to use my external midi pad which was always starting on F#4

[@OntheHookGames]

Almost got it. The method you suggest here is not optimal, because it requires 4 separate instances of Battery running. You can actually do this with only one instance of Battery running, saving CPU.

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

Hi, Triple. Did you find a way to rename individual samples (notes) in Ableton`s piano roll using only one instance of Battery? Let us know if you did, that would be much appreciated by us all! Cheers.

[@wandajames143]

How!?

[@JT-xg9ep]

@@musicproductionmadeeasy5027 You have to drop Battery into Drum Rack, then open up the I/O and change the notes it receives to "All". Then you can make chains for every useable note and rename them, as well as change the colors so they're distinguishable with Push. The only cons are that you can't map samples to different notes through Drum Rack (only in Battery) and you can't audition the Drum Rack cells with the mouse for some reason (though it works just fine with MIDI, musical typing, Push, etc.)

[@tripplethrendo]

@@JT-xg9ep is there a video that shows how to do this?

[@JT-xg9ep]

@@tripplethrendo kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3vIi5qMdteGitk

[@Cozy08]

I'm fairly new to this process but this work style seems so tedious! I wish you could insert Batteries Kits which would be so much simpler.. Maybe there's a way out there I'm just unaware of.. If anyone could help that would be greatly appreciated!

[@JackPeloquin]

Youre the MAN!!!! Brap On!!!

[@guycampbell830]

Thanks this helps my workflow definitely. Really appreciate the lesson!

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

I'm glad it helps you :)

[@guycampbell830]

what r u up to now? any new tracks

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

@@guycampbell830 In fact I am, but decided to spend a few weeks getting better at sound design before tackling my songs again. And you?

[@ruth.alhambra]

Thanks

[@leslyremy6002]

Whoa! The realms of possibility.

[@doctor0ff186]

Man you the are the best!!! Thanks a lot. Wish you luck!!!

[@poetcacahoet4633]

yep to have a drum machine you have to charge at least 16 instance of battery :o any idea to have one but split on the piano roll???

[@shadypartenza9772]

Keep going bro! Very useful

[@dandman1230987]

You can do this with one instance of battery for all individual drum hits. On the in/out. Select the top selection. I can’t remember but I think it’s ‘allow all’. This will route all perfectly

[@albertlopez2762]

Has anybody tried this with success?

[@thomasgarber8583]

Awesome work-around! Wonder if this is possible using only one instance of Battery, that would be a total game changer!

[@JustinMarrone]

life changing haha. thank you!!

[@0Lm0nk]

Thnks for this tip.. However I do wonder if there are any Drum Racks available online where this has been done for the entire Battery 4 Library. This can be a tedious process especcialy when we have 16 or 32 percussional sounds or maybe entire kit which we would like to run through a m4l step sequencer for creating percussional textures.

[@LightsAcapella]

I know its been years but did you find a solution for this? Like an "auto name" feature or something?

[@tjerja]

great suggestion! - Did you find any solution?

[@mindmelt1111]

Too much on the CPU id say. Ableton needs to create a way to color the midi notes in the piano roll one day. Shit. You can color clips and tracks.

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

This is a work around to force Ableton to show the instruments/samples names on the piano roll. As per the cpu, Ableton is already cpu inefficient on its own. I dont think they will ever sort this out.

[@echo_then_void]

I've gotten this to work, which is awesome, however one thing I've noticed is there is still multiple instances of Battery that load essentially. Each chain, although is a chain, when I click to load it (little wrench button) it's a separate instance of that kit as a different chain. So, my snare chain loads battery, but then when I click my kick chain, it also loads a new window of battery. If I add a new sample within battery for the kick chain, it doesn't auto populate that cell in the snare chain's instance of battery. Even if I save the kit both in Battery and Ableton, I have to manually load that same kit with each chain. I'm not sure if that is productive or if I am doing something wrong. Any thoughts? My goal would be to load the standalone of battery without Ableton, build the drum kit I want. Save that kit, then load it into Ableton, however if while in Ableton or even back in battery standalone, if I wish to make a change to that kit, I have to manually load it again for each chain. I was hoping there was an auto update feature I'm not clicking lol.

[@Dieje]

Thank you so much

[@charleswheeler3418]

hey, i just did this but now it seems to have an entire instance if battery on every single pad. when i select to change kit it will only change one sound.

[@_obscure_one_1375]

love u some much

[@trevorz_canada]

This is great.

[@deimergomezmejia6542]

Thank you a lot!

[@noodlingaround2023]

Thanks mate. This is really helpful..

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

Glad to help, Richard.

[@jayhay6408]

just wondering what's the point of doing this when you can actually do everything in battery itself.

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

The idea here is to have all the names of the samples inside the Midi editor in Live.

[@xaviervontrappe3222]

@@musicproductionmadeeasy5027 But it also requires a new instance of battery for each single drum part, which means in your example, you have 4 separate instances of battery, and that takes a lot of CPU power. What if you had a drum section with 8 different elements, it would be more work to have to go to each individual instance of battery to make adjustments to the drums (which battery has so many ways to creatively work with your samples). any thoughts?

[@franklanse]

@@xaviervontrappe3222 You only need one instance of Battery.

[@bennbutterworth4593]

How is this better for workflow? That whole process probably took longer than playing around on your keyboard for 30 seconds and figuring out where the hits are...

Once you figured it out, you'll save it and just load the Drum Rack in the future. You lose time creating the rack, true, but you will save in the future if you use it a lot.

[@christopher0476]

Very useful thx!

[@mtaylor627]

LEGEND

[@ajn2747]

i like the idea, but this doesn't seem to consider optimizing cpu. An instance of Battery on every drum rack cell is way too intensive. Is there another work around?

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

I couldn't find any other to show the names of the individual samples in the MIDI editor in Ableton. If showing the names is not something you need, you can simply route individual cells from Battery to separate audio tracks as well , to process individually with FXs.

[@sfeliz4357]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoWXkIR4ibdjmZY et voilà... Once you have in your chain all the intruments rack per pad, you'll be able to rename them or change each pad's colour.

[@timpauly2097]

@@sfeliz4357 brillant! Thanks!

[@patopattone1138]

@@sfeliz4357 the video is private and I can't see it

[@paulgarthwaite9734]

Brilliant i wish you a lottery win!

[@paulgarthwaite9734]

fantastic Thank you !!!!!!

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

You`re welcome, my friend.

[@MrHotep-dm8yp]

Genius!. Thanks for this.

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

You are very welcome!

[@TheHutchMusic]

Thanks ... still seems a pain!

[@themarcos150591]

Then music production is not for you, pal.

[@rasmusjurs7073]

@@themarcos150591 You're right. It should be a total pain in the ass to use. Otherwise it's not "professional".

[@themarcos150591]

@@rasmusjurs7073 What I'am saying is that producing requires effort.

[@ben_raw]

@@themarcos150591 gatekeeping music production. nice.

[@MrMattypooo]

@@themarcos150591 Yes, but it also requires efficiency. For instance, using this workflow how do you quickly load a new kit when each sample is in its own instance of Battery?

[@tomgrunig3161]

Is it possible to use this with the NI MK2 keyboard with all it's feautures? Searching for a workflow like this but with the MK2. Just doing seperate outputs won't save in Battery..

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

I'm not sure my friend, I don't use MK2. Sorry..

[@desertedresort]

thanx

[@Renaxelo]

how to get the kit library ??

[@musicproductionmadeeasy5027]

It came in the Battery 4 factory preset.

[@HpBeck_Fieldrecordings]

thats it!!!! THX ;-)

[@croneycousteau]

1.25 speed is your friend

[@manum5998]

Battery on Launch key pads dont respond

[@hyperconfidence650]

It would be really cool if someone made a drum rack template to do this so lazy producers like me can drag and drop....

[@richariz7896]

i have one that i made but im not sharing it, only i would sell it