Best WoW Cinematics vs what we have now in 2022...

[@kiwifan6002]

5.2 added Isle of Thunder, Hall of the Thunder King trove runs, Nalak and Oondasta, Warlock green fire, legendary meta gem, Throne of Thunder raid and a bunch of Class tuning. During 5.2 I did all that and did my Challenge modes during that patch. Easily my most favourite patch of all time.

[@voriq5879]

TRUE, 5.2 was awesome. MoP in general is so overhated

[@dashesweep]

The patch that broke the spell

[@nikai_vil3893]

Yeah i miss MoP lol

[@GhullieUser]

@@nikai_vil3893 eww pandas

[@gagestpeter984]

MoP in general was the best Expansion WoW has had. ever.

[@VivecAlmsivi]

Ah yes his annual react to WoW cinematics video

[@eren__morwen5947]

And I couldn't be happier

[@diode_wow]

In time gor a new xpac announcement

[@Dirty__Dan]

Can’t wait for the next one.

[@axpx98]

yeah, copium content

[@brendanmccarthy492]

Pretty soon he's gonna do a tier list of all the cinematic

[@posthardcoresinger]

Ulduar one was amazing. The old god mystery unraveling with bronzebeard, the confrontation between varian and garrosh (I think?), jaina trying to break it up.

[@Bloodbow]

You can just see the difference in how Blizzard used to view cinematics from thunder king to chains of domination. Emphasis in the past was on telling players why they should care without oversharing of new content. Now they have to give all the major npcs and classes a second or two in the trailer for some false sense of relatability because they think we won't like the new content without representation. We remember the old cinematics not for a one second cameo.

[@justinanderson2631]

"Show, don't tell".

[@vondamn9943]

Isn't it all about representation today? For "reasons" also

[@voilvelev6775]

Well, it doesnt help that Shadowlands' story is an asspull. So there is no actual ''past'' there. Its all made up on the spot.

[@ToreOnYouTube]

When Asmon started watching the Lich King cinematic, we are again reminded how much Shadowlands fucked up. Usually we can look back at these stories and characters with great memories, but watching it now, knowing that Arthas was actually controlled by some half-assed antagonist, completely ruins the feeling of these characters. Move forward, create new stories and adventures, keep the mysteries a mystery. Don't retcon everything...

[@six2make4]

But that would require talent and creativity...

[@Migler1]

He wasn’t controlled though. He seized control himself from Zovaal. Everything he did was on his on accord.

[@Name-yo6lf]

Nope, I still look at them fondly, but that's because I consider shadowlands lore fanfic.

[@gmoney9469]

@@Migler1 ??? We can see he was being manipulated when he reverted to his original self before he died. “Is it over?”

[@Migler1]

@@gmoney9469 I’m just paraphrasing from the Sylvanas novel.

[@sethandrews4608]

I miss mop. One of my favorite expansions but people gave it shit at the time, but knowing what we know now, it was so good.

[@sangheili333]

Throne of Thunder was such a good raid, I'm still mad I lost all my screenshots from that xpac

[@carbonstar9091]

Mechanically mop was great. Pandas just didn't really do it for me.

[@JoeKing69]

I feel it only got hate due the pandas but they were always in the lore and had to show up sometime

[@anonamarth4291]

@@sangheili333 Honestly, I enjoyed it aside from the wind. The wind pissed me right the fuck off.

[@Elriogranade]

@Shawn Nickolus I loved it and I played all xpac except wotlk and cata. The truth is that this xpac when patch released really split the community into 2 parts and some that were negative about it never changed their mind. However, if you look at content itself it was great. I don't do PVE but according to pve players ToT and SOO were some of the best raids blizzard ever put out. Challenge mode was cool and interesting. Scenarios I think is a great way to make a story into the game the fact that you can play it with other people is even better. World boss were a cool addition to the game, not world boss we have today. First borrowed power we had I think it was okay even though I personally did not really like it, it was something they tried. I did not think they would keep going with it in WoD. PvP was great some people were strong but I feel like overall it was some of the most fun pvp we had in arena and random bg's. The zones were artistically speaking amazing. And timeless isle was probably the most fun time I had in wow even more than quel danas isle in TBC. So ye I think overall this xpac was one of the best we had.

[@Drakkyr]

9:23 I mained a monk back in MoP and could confirm. My friend(warrior main at the time) wouldn’t duel me because of how fucked up the match up was for him.

[@MrGameonthis]

I play on a MoP private server and watched a warrior who was dueling people outside of Shrine and he challenged a Monk who just kept healing, over and over and over again. Must have lasted 15 minutes before the monk got bored and started attacking too. That warrior had heart lol

[@Orgrimmar21]

I liked when patch trailers where like a little story not even showing the patch new features. Just a small story of what is happening and why/who this new big bad guys is a threat we must end. Examples: Ulduar patch, Thunder king, Firelands, Fall of the lich king, Hellfire Citadel patch.

[@benjamindamestoy3661]

Garrosh could have been the best character in the franchise. But like all the others, he has been ruined by the storytelling. He just wanted to be like his father and give a "glorious future for the orcs". He only cared about the orcs, so his interests aligned with the Horde at first. But when pretty much everyone from the other races turned against him, he started to doubt. And there came Malkorok who "manipulated" him into thinking that everyone else couldnt be trusted. And so we got MoP Garrosh. Peace was never an option. He thought that war with the Alliance was the only thing that could ensure his people's freedom. (The humans are basically Garrosh's Mannoroth) And that's why he wanted to see Anduin during his trial. Because HE faced his warrior father. HE sided with the enemy for peace. And at this point HE was the one that everyone (in the lore) approved. And so Garrosh thought maybe he did the wrong things. But admiting it would have brought shame on his fathers name. So he was stuck and chose to fight till the end. Great character. Poor storytelling.

[@voilvelev6775]

He brough shame on his own father's name by doing the stupid shit he did out of immature pride. And he's not smart. The logic of ''im gonna cull all my allies and thats SOMEHOW gonna make me stronger" is so stupid, that only a delusional infant can think its gonna work.

[@firedrake110]

Ah yes, the calm, calculated, in control Garrosh. The Garrosh who literally couldn't stand in the same room as Varian, who'd rather fight and die against the alliance while Yogg-Saron kills everyone, completely aware that would be the outcome. A known thinker, that one.

[@apacalypsagon3758]

To be frank it's not in game players need much of a reason to not go in and smash and grab all the stuff. Plus garrosh never fought the old gods he only has the kirin tor and brann to go off of. Not the kind of people to expect honesty from especially when they're associated with his people's sworn enemy.

[@voilvelev6775]

Garrosh is essentially just a kid playing king.

[@OliveOilFan]

A lot of people laugh at MoP but let's be real. It was really good. some of the best Zones, Some of the best Raids, and lvl progression. it gets laughed at for Pandas but even that was cool looking back. I miss MoP and would love to play it again if I have the chance.

[@Kileased]

It also introduced group loot which became a game changer lol

[@gotafgc]

It was the fucking best, class were all awesome to play, there was snapshot, there were so much to do with dailies

[@madcatness2958]

That, and what many seem to forget is that they already were in Warcraft long before World of Warcraft.

[@gotafgc]

@@madcatness2958 true but it was the last time that we had all of this

[@madcatness2958]

@@gotafgc I loved MoP. I just dislike ppl making fun of Pandaren

[@genzog9970]

the lich king one still gives me chills, honestly dont know if i wanna play wraith classic. So many good memories dont want to make them bad now..

[@GgGTeMpLaR]

-mop garrosh getting turned into a one-dimensional villain, abt to be hanged -tbc illidan, abt to be hanged: "first time?"

[@LihoShammy]

Honestly, I still think the patch 2.3 trailer was the best they've ever done. Sure the patch itself wasn't as hyped as some of the later ones, but the trailer did such an amazing job of not only making the Blood Elf starting zone fodder look like an actual threat, but also make Zul'Aman look really freaking cool. Not to mention the voice delivery. The final lines of the trailer still give me chills.

[@Krowlei]

Man the thunder king makes me nostalgic. That was quite possibly my favorite patch of all time. I loved the isle of thunder and the raid is one of my favorites. I'm sure other people here mained a warlock too.

[@Mr_Edwards_1995]

“Of The Black Harvest” was one of the coolest titles in the game. I kept it over all the pvp titles I had. If you played affliction it was even more fitting.

[@Krowlei]

@@Mr_Edwards_1995 i agree. The actual questline and boss involved was so much fun. I genuinely felt like i had a better understand on my class mechanics after the fight. I played Destro/Affliction myself because nothing quite beats Chaos Bolt and kil'jaeden's cunning. I was so mad when they changed that lol.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

MoP was so underrated. It was an great expansion with excellent content and did the faction rebellion story _right_ unlike the travesty that was BfA. So many philistines couldn't appreciate how good it was because "hurr durr panduhs".

[@Merwanor]

WoD had a lot of flaws for sure, but when it comes to the first levering experience of an expansion, it was so freaking good. The garrison became a curse on that expansion but it was such a fun addition during the leveling experience. And exploring each zone was so much fun because of all the treasures and rare spawns they added to the game, and even though they had similar stuff in expansions following WoD, they where never as fun because the treasures and rewards sucked in comparison. Personally I think WoD was one of the expansions with the most potential that sadly got destroyed when it came to its end game. That being said, Blackrock Foundry was amazing imo. While I really loved MoP, I think it is the point where the story started to go the wrong way. I really hate that they have gone the route that each expansion just seems to build up to the next one and that nothing truly ends.

[@Metalfan757]

Crazy how at the time MoP was looked at unfavorably, but by this point most players realize how it was actually pretty damn good, particularly raiding

[@GranMaj]

MoP is generally a really solid expansion. But the content drought suck so much dick at the end of the expansion because it coincide with WoD development cycle. And you know what happened with WoD.

[@mojus2890]

Raiding? You mean rhyming!

[@JohnSmith-sl6uq]

I remember people hated the PvP, complained that there was too much CC. Now everyone says PvP was great in it lol.

[@MATCHLESS789]

@@JohnSmith-sl6uq keep in mind that there's like 1/5th of the population that there once was and that most of the people who didn't like that are likely among those who left.

[@razien9941]

@@JohnSmith-sl6uq people who complained about pvp were those who sucked at it. Those who knew how to play were having a blast. There is a reason many rank 1's they all say MoP was one of the best in that regard.

[@sucraloss]

Nobody's gonna feel nostalgic for Shadowlands.

[@bertinrow]

Until the poison kicked in, Cairne was absolutely dominating Garrosh

[@Jermays173]

Did you think we had forgotten? Did you think we had forgiven?

[@couldntbeazuraxoxo3684]

Yes yes yes yes

[@maxsalazar2356]

Ppl in the chat like- Thunder KIng Patch : 😲 Chains of Domination : 🤣🤣🤣

[@rexnoct5810]

5.2 is the greatest patch of all time. pvp, pve, world boss, good rep, good outdoor content. it had literally everything.

[@wpelfeta]

Gods of Zulaman patch was pretty hype back in the day.

[@PaulSeoulOLD]

Kid: Mom can we have Garrosh? Mom: But we already have Garrosh at home. The Garrosh at home: 13:35

[@GameUnCrafter]

The issue with 9.1 cinematic is that it wasn't built up at all. No one knows what's going on. Lei'shen was talked about the whole expansion.

[@SirGrimly]

ngl, I kind of want these patch/raid trailers to come back... the "Survival Guide" always felt off imo

[@bluewolvesstudios2822]

I highly agree that WOD trailer Garrosh was my favorite as well. Not to mention, the part with saving his father was badass. Hell, the Father-Son duo (despite not knowing each other until later Grommash finds out).

[@RavenRants]

No one's gonna talk about blizz giving Garrosh the wrong axe? 8:41 That aint Gorehowl lol

[@AlexSaheli]

Btw the music in Cata was just... Magnificent

[@denijovanovic9935]

"Let them come! Frostmourne hunger!"

[@TheRealRealMClovin]

The thing about Garrosh is when Blizzard introduce him in cataclysm, players and mostly horde didn't like him and wanted the OG Thrall back and started hating Garrosh for it. So when Blizzard started to make Mists of pandaria Garrosh bacame a villain so they could remove him and have Thrall back or some other(like Vol,jin. But the problem is before and during launch of Mists of Pandaria. People started to like Garrosh for how we was in cataclysm. He killed cairne, yes. But he was an honorble person and honored Cairnes death, by also killing the girl tauren assassin who poisioned Garrosh blade without him knowing. He made war but he hated warcrimes, especially if children are harmed. Like how a general of Garrosh bombed a shelter or school that had children and others. Garrosh immediately visited that General and threw him of a mountain and nearly did the same to us players for helping that General, but not us knowing it was children in there we got spared. People started to like and see Garrosh for that. Until later in Mists of Pandaria ofcourse where all he stood for is tossed away, not honorble and does big warcrimes.

[@SilverPrince_]

Your quick reminder that The Lich King straight-up fucking murdered us all on an afterthought to turn is all into ultra-DKs and would have succeeded if not for literal Deus Ex Machina, and that Arthas is the only endgame boss to actually canonically kill us.

[@gonefishing9781]

Argus too

[@MikeTall88]

And that was Arthas doing, with a stolen sliver of the power of the Jailer that we faced in Shadowlands. The jailer that was supercharged with anima and restored, a titan++(+?), that we defeated. Hmmmm ...

[@MikeTall88]

WoD Garrosh reminds me of Thanos. A character with an Iron Will, not a mad brute (a mad titan), but one with the will to act, a character with a conviction, a hero of his own story.

[@voilvelev6775]

And all that will in serve of immature pride and childish delusion.

[@PaddyRoon7]

I so wish that the resolution of WoD was that the Iron Horde successfully come to Azeroth and absorb the playable Horde faction. The Horde is now ruled by Grommash Hellscream as Warchief, Saurfang as High Overlord and Vol'jin back as leader of Darkspear Trolls. That would have been a much better setting for BFA.

[@bonk5943]

Wasn't Taran Zhu wounded or something when fighting Garrosh?

[@talonzor2476]

Exactly what I didn't like about Pandaria, Garrosh always screaming. There was no scene where he wasn't screaming... Apart from this, Pandaria was the expansion I liked the most.

[@Dr_Weirdoo]

*Let them come... Frostmourne hungers...*

[@derke123]

in response to 8:05 Garrosh never beat anyone without some kind of backhanded methods, he even tried it against Varian but Varian is too chad thundercock. Garrosh being finally killed by backhanded methods is kind of the best way for him to get his comeuppance

[@bosmeriosmosis215]

Getting green fire on my demonology warlock was the greatest thing ever, I didn't start playing wow since day one, and I don't play anymore, but between mid cata and end of wod, I had some good times. When demonology spec however got totally changed for demon hunter class to exist I pretty much stopped playing. I had a few alts, I'd say shaman was probably my second most played, and I could have kept playing, but knowing that my main characters favorite spec was gone made me lose interest fast.

[@bobthenob.]

Why is ghost uther built like that

[@c0wb0y.crypt0]

Straight up.... Microsoft needs to BUY Chris Metzen out, make his new project a complete reality without forcing him to take it public, while bringing him back as story consultant for WoW... Get Ghostcrawler back too! DO WHAT IT FUCKIN TAKES BRU! DO WHAT IT TAKES!!!!!

[@tacosyk]

9:13 Classic oh no stepbro I'm stuck

[@913_Niyala]

Alliance isn't really dead. Quite a few servers are poppin' and the M+ / Arena scene has been actually pretty active and successful (shockingly even as pugging)

[@hasmokar2661]

Let them come. Frostmourne hungers! Most epic delivery ever!

[@sebytro]

Man oh man, there was so much depth in the cut scenes from past expansions compared to the crazy narration of Shadowlands.

[@ghostsheepy.]

i still think that tyrande vs nathanos was badass

[@HCSR2]

If Malkorok was a Dreadlord that would have explained a fuckton. Garrosh's personality was brash and proud at points, but also cold and calculating. He engineered the complete wipe out of the Alliance army in Theramore. In a military outmaneuvering we haven't seen since WC3. All throughout Pandaria he also managed to dance circles around the Alliance and Dalaran and accomplish all his goals. If Vol'jin and the rest of the horde hadn't turned on him early on and then pussied our an defected they would have easily conquered the world. I guess like Arthas, their fall began when everyone abandoned them.

[@andreaskrbyravn855]

Death knights dude at lvl 80 was crazy

[@burkhardt7694]

No one has beaten garrosh 1 vs 1 in hand to hand but taran zhu was the closest.

[@iammunhu]

17:39 reminded me of Wonderwoman in Justice League "screaming" 'Kal-El no!'

[@harryk2336]

06:55 called him one dimensional yet ranked him as one of the S tier villains in wow, even put him above Arthas

[@hawke1800]

stonetalon mountains had a great garrosh moment as well

[@ItsWhizi]

I started WoW in 5.0 and 5.2 will always be my personal GOAT patch!

[@jegerikkeenfanafidverifika2304]

Havn't played WoW since wrath yet these cinemas still give goosebumps

[@charliepayne9378]

They took the war out of Warcraft

[@killaxero]

Wow. It's been 9 years since I quite WoW, still watch the content but not going to go back.

[@zaishijunior9455]

Good choice, now sit here and relax.

[@rahn45]

A lot of build up to epic fights and climaxes to different expansion stories. And then you get the one for Shadowlands...

[@jasonfarrer6521]

Garrosh (the one that you liked) was like a colder version of Ron Perlman.

[@kepsiskupsis99]

i have always wondered if garrosh could have bested sylvanas in battle, if he took the place of saurfang or bolvar in those battles? saurfang was old and past his prime and bolvar was just a pushover, maybe garrosh would have ripped sylvanas apart?

[@itsholidaybb]

He didn't defeat Cairne, Garrosh with the poison loses EVERY SINGLE TIME to Cairne.

[@psytic]

I wish I played MoP when It came out. I kept getting hung up on the haha pandas are stupid thing But it looks like a ton of fun that I missed out on honestly.

[@wowhorde7775]

Man the new trailers are just glorified movie trailers... They sound and are edited exactly like movie trailers. The old trailers until Legion used to tell a short story with clips of the raid. They were so much better and hype imo. The new ones try so hard to look cool and I think their main target are people who don't play the game

[@Matsupitsu396]

How does 9.1 trailer looks just like Ratchet and Clank 3 Cut Scenes?

[@mcvei]

IDK if its just me but, even the music and soundtracks were soooo much better in those older cinematics. Seems like the newer ones are all some kind of techno-stiled bs. Just bring back those epic soundtracks like in Cataclysm, TBC and Vanilla. it brings so much to the atmosphrere.

[@divatox8604]

At this point WoW should be F2P. We aren't getting content worth paying a subscription for.

[@Wellshem]

Problem is, people would use that as an argument to say that wow is dead.

[@Scribby87]

The unfortunate thing about Garrosh is that the writer who gave him that "Honorable" personality in Cataclysm did so based on miscommunication. They planned on him being a shit from the beginning.

[@crispentv5726]

Why is Garrosh using the Warsong Howling Axe and not Gorehowl?

[@eltonazevedo1361]

and in this movie of Garrosh fighting the panda, that is not the original Gorehowl! that is *Warsong Howling Axe* that drops from a Burning Crusade Hc dungeon! the original Gorehowl have tiny Teeth on top of the back and shines Orange Light! Gorehowl is just a simple Axe and yet have more Fame then those stupid OP weapons created by magic like Ashbringer ,Frostmourne,Shadowmourne and on an on!... Gorehowl is strait up a Warrior Weapon!

[@redmist2195]

Old school Zul'aman will always be my personal goat cinematic.

[@skyacaniadev2229]

it all has something to do with the internal power struggle inside the Blizzard WoW team, Metzen - Thrall, Furor - Garosh, etc...

[@Faive]

I think the old patches icons were cool and I like them coming back.

[@painfall]

I remember Fire lord as a mercenary in Warcraft 3.

[@lilycaradoc]

How many times is working together going to be the big hook? It is time for world of Warcraft 2.

[@MecTecher]

Remember 4.3's Cinematic? It was so bad Blizzard even removed it from their page.

[@codyfindley5225]

I always LOVED the lich king cinematic trailer was so cool

[@KimKim-hm5xr]

5.2 voice is Minsc from Baldurs Gate 2 best rpg ever :)

[@ChumpkinINC]

Chat during Thunder King Patch Trailer w/ Shitty Models and Animations: OMG SO GOOD!!1 Chat during 9.1 Patch Trailer w/ Newer Models, Animation, and better Cinematography: SO BAD KEKW Which patch had better gameplay is debatable but the 9.1 trailer is objectively better in both visuals and style. Some of yall are so delusional or wearing those famous rose-tinted glasses lol

[@ChumpkinINC]

@@marcuskane1040 i literally only play one blizz game lmao. cope

[@Voidload]

Regarding only trailers I really liked chains of domination. it's just the patch gameplay itself was much worse then the thunder king one.

[@tien5tri]

holy shit thunder king was so beautiful. Mop was my favorite expansion. Fuck all these people complaining about pandas. It was by far the best.

[@SatomiForward]

Amazing how he still misses remastered Secrets of Ulduar

[@mielipuolisiili7240]

I guess the "WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES" will never cease sending chills all over my body.

[@avidworkslol]

The Ysera cinematic in SL was pretty damn epic.

[@unixtreme]

It's been 10 years since pandaria. Fuck I feel old.

[@kiwirar5885]

Can't believe nobody suggested the Zul'aman trailer.

[@TheRealRealMClovin]

Just asking when did Varian Wrynn beat Garrosh?

[@silversabith]

Saurfang doesn't autoattack, he cleaves.

[@Odmnul]

Looks like he is back with mount comp and transmogs...who wants to see a deathroll video again?

[@rampage3337]

the isle of thunder comes out in 2months on stormforge

[@peterjeffery1854]

that first bit is how you show what a good game wow was

[@AlexSaheli]

I wish I could magically return to the times of Cata 15 years ago ;'-(

[@emilyschoener5441]

Thunder King looked dope. Quit after Wrath so never played it but dang.

[@Ecliptor.]

That tier was chores upon chores, so was all of mop, honestly. People really see the expansion with rose tinted goggles. The raids were alright, I guess, but that was never an issue.

[@leifa888]

I quit in TBC and came back for fucking BFA 😔 missed the peak and made it back for the decline lmao

[@razien9941]

@@Ecliptor. chores ? What chores ? You may confuse it with SL ? Any dailies you had in MoP were completely optional. I didnt even do most dailies for various factions back then and it was fine. -PvP was one of the best if not the best. There is a reason many rank one players consider it the best in that regard. Those who complained abotu it were complete casuals who didnt know how to play -Class design was one of the best and most fun ever -Raids were all really good, ToT and SoO are 2 of the best of all time. They werent just fine -It brought Brawle'rs Guild and perhaps one of the greatest things in wow history. Challenge Modes. And we have both of these in the game even to this day (M+ is basically CM 2.0) -And story ? Thunder King alone is miles ahead most things brought from 4 last expansions combined

[@Ecliptor.]

@@razien9941 I'm not reading all that, you win

[@razien9941]

@@Ecliptor. well when you talk about expansions you have to talk about everything, not just what you play, right? I tried to have it as simple as it gets

[@Ecliptor.]

god damn it, you cut the sword run too short

[@neilthesupplier]

I never played long enough to get to a covenant. How do you get to it?

[@CptShiba]

MoP definitely had the best cinematics imo.

[@stahliboi6249]

It feels like blizzard are trying to make award winning cinematics instead of just trying to tell a story.

[@OLBarbok]

I'm still sad that MoP was the only ever expansion I never actually played besides at the very end when I returned to WoW (well also Shadowlands now except that I didnt even buy that dogsh*t)

[@scuffedspartan5144]

Chad Garrosh!

[@ramiroacuna340]

God, can´t wait for Classic MoP

[@azerith221]

you never quit wow, you take a break sometimes, but you always come back