Fast forward a year later to July 2024. Over here in the USA at a Trek dealer near the city of Pittsburgh a brand new Trek Rail 7 Gen 2 can be had for $3800.00 USD. Original MSRP on it was $6649.99 USD. Bike is exact same as the one featured in your video. It should be coming in within one week from Trek warehouse to my local dealer. Wow, it definitely is a buyers market now. No matter what minor issues it may have, that is a whole lot of bang for the buck.
@bestdayevermtb2Ай бұрын
You are not wrong. You would almost be wreckless not to buy one.
@OkYh42011 ай бұрын
Man what a gem of a channel to find, you are awesome
@bestdayevermtb211 ай бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate that.😀
@russellbrebner7664 Жыл бұрын
Me and a mate own Trek Rail 9. Top spec alloy version. Comes with a Zeb and really good component spec. In our view its one of the best value for money offerings out there, good performance, great reliability. The Bosch system is arguably the best system going, the emtb mode and power overrun and features i couldn't do without now. Ive done nearly 4000km on mine in 2.5yrs and had zero reliability issues. For the km im doing... i actually think my service intervals are lower than my steam bike was. Full phat ebike is where its at. Don't go trying to save a few kg. Reliability and performance all the way! 😊
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I am a fan of the Bosch motor and like you like my full phat bike.
@markthompson78173 ай бұрын
Been riding a rail 9 since it first came out. It’s a great do everything bike. And agree about the Bosch, I ride mostly in the E setting and just let it do its thing. I have never ran out of battery. I have made two mods, a shorter stem (nock block compatible) and carbon fat boy bars. Ah anda bungee around the battery tube. Oh, and I have only broken one spoke. Assegai tyre on the front and minion on the rear. I have screwed in the controller, matching a screw for it from Bunnings. I am thinking about mulleting it. But would want the electronics to be updated so the motor doesn’t cut out too soon and all the electric programmes work properly. I think it would fit better in some of the tight radius turns my mates seem to like to ride.
@bend14995 ай бұрын
I just bought a 9.7, got a hell of a good deal on it, and absolutely LOVE It. Great bike, and the guys at my local Trek are super helpful and nice.
@bestdayevermtb25 ай бұрын
Certainly some good deals to be had at the moment. Enjoy the bike.
@vipxj1 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2021 rial 7,2500kms and no problems at all. great bike.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I am super impressed or is that one too many zeros? I don't do that much milage in my car.😂
@jaselikesbikes Жыл бұрын
You do get good bang for your buck with the Trek Rail. Nice review Lance.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
You don't even need an e bike being an international xc racer😁
@jaselikesbikes Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 Ha ha, still looking for my perfect ebike.
@mseekles1972 Жыл бұрын
Got both the Rail 7 and 9.7. Last year. The 7 suffers a bit from a slightly rattling Bosch engine. But no other / major issues so far. Had both the fork and damper on the 9.7 upgraded to the 9.8 level. Really great allround bikes.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
The Bosch motors often have that classic rattle.
@mseekles1972 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 that’s what I also understood, it’s not that bad. 9.7 is rattle free up until now, the carbon also rides a bit more damped than the alloy.
@Stockfish15113 ай бұрын
Just got my gen 4 rail 9.8. What a beast of a bike. I also have slash 9.8 xt 2022 model. Different bikes, but the bosch pedal assist is nuts. I have never had so much fun climbing as i did now. Only minus is the weight as it makes the bike less poppy than slash. But its incredibly fun to ride, just shredding trough everything.
@bestdayevermtb23 ай бұрын
Yes, who would have thought we would ever say we find climbing fun.
@philearnshaw2514 Жыл бұрын
Had a rail 7 for almost a year now, up in Rotorua. Love the bike and the only issues i have had is a recall/warranty on the front chain-ring which kept popping the chain off (swapped for an FSR) and stem headbearings that were not greased at factory- replaced on warranty. Apart from that, this bike has been awesome. (change the tyres, i personally don't like the stock ones)
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Your comment about the tyres is a very common one. Most people change them out immediately. Might see you out on the trails in Rotorua.
@andrewwatson9775 Жыл бұрын
Love my Rail , have had problem with rear hub but Trek replaced and upgraded with no drama . Trek are really good for warranty that is worth a mention
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they seem to have been pretty good with warranty issues. I always think that is important when choosing a bike as the reality is they all have problems.
@darayoga6587 Жыл бұрын
My rail7 has made me better than everyone in the world.
@twosencefromcleveland6084 Жыл бұрын
Especially the onces riding bicycles
@chriswood4210 Жыл бұрын
Had rail 7 for over 3 years now got it just before lockdown was lucky! I’ve been mountain biking over 20 years ,had everything from a V10 Santa Cruz to 10kg Scott Xc bike ! Upgrade the tyres immediately! I blew both within a week also recommend upgrading bars and stem for something lighter! Stock weigh over 600g and look awful, but ye awesome bike best handling bike I’ve owned ever, although my new orbea rise is probably just as capable and is lighter.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
How do you find the Orbea Rise after being on the full fat bike for the last three years?
@chriswood4210 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 both amazing bikes! The rise is more agile feels almost like a regular bike to handle and is powerful enough for me but I do like having the extra power and travel on tap of the rail ,would definitely recommend either 👌
@mnootebos11 ай бұрын
I own a Trek Rail 5 now for a year and I love it. I have tried a lot of other e-MTB's but compared to my hardtail Trek Superfly MTB this one is a real toy to ride
@eduardodinzey27143 ай бұрын
Me too what colore is yours ? Do you have any big scratches😢
@mnootebos3 ай бұрын
@@eduardodinzey2714 it is dark green and very scratched…
@lezbig535 Жыл бұрын
Had a Rail 9 alloy, for 2 years and it’s the best bike I’ve ever had, (36 years on mtbs)). The Bontrager wheels are nonsense on a big bike like this. I practically swapped out most parts. One thing to remember is to get a knoclbloc adapter if you switch out stems etc so the warranty is still good. Class bit of kit.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, not a big fan of Bontrager wheels or tires. I destroyed a wheel at Fort William once on a Trek slash.
@lezbig535 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 That wouldn’t be difficult there ha, ha. I went down that on a Kona Coilair Supreme and it was like being on a bucking bronco. And I’m originally from there.
@snat6299 Жыл бұрын
Turbo Levo vs Rail in my limited experience , the Levo seemed much smoother and quiet. The rail seemed more punchy and rattled quiet a bit. Both put a smile on my face.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I agree the Levo is quieter downhill. I did do a climbing challenge a few years back with the Rail and Levo and they both performed very similar.
@twosencefromcleveland6084 Жыл бұрын
So does a KTM EXC300! Both are motorcycles.
@twosencefromcleveland6084 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 Of course, they're both motorcycles.
@kingerz7 ай бұрын
You're confused, these are pedal assistance machines.@@twosencefromcleveland6084
@richardmason4705 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 rail 7 I watched your review of that same bike a few years ago. 3 years old now and I am getting ready to upgrade some things, suspension is first, tires were an immediate upgrade But I see no need to get a new bike anytime soon, just make mine new again. Love my rail 53 and grey from Oregon
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Glad you are still putting up with my videos. Don't worry being mid 50s grey and riding and E bike is really cool these days.😂
@vaughanboyce3702 Жыл бұрын
After owning a few ebikes and now on a 22 rail 9 I can honestly say the rail is the best bike I've owned so far, love the 29 wheels, geometry and best of all the Bosche motor, it's been bulletproof. Only thing that lets it down are the Bontrager tyres, I swapped them out for a set of Conti's.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Good man. Conti's are a much better choice.🙂
@janze87 Жыл бұрын
I did same. Argotal front and kryptotal rear w/ enduro casing!
@brentcollins97276 ай бұрын
Your camera footage is literally unreal. It’s like you’re in some computer generated movie set. Lol. It’s awesome
@bestdayevermtb26 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. It is nice when people say my riding is good but what really makes me happy is when people like the camera work. It has taken me years to improve it. Watch old videos they were truly terrible.
@gclaytony7 ай бұрын
I've had my Rail 7 for a couple of years now and it has been a great eMTB. I"ve no issues with the bike per se, rather with the new generation ergonomic setups/frame dimensions. The issues I do have are related to bike setup vs my height (6'3"/250lbs). However, being tall (especially in the legs), I've been struggling to get a good fit (really on any bike). By the time I got the seat height vs pedal setup right, I'm so far up above the handle bars that all my weight is resting on my hands, which becomes very very uncomfortable pretty quickly, particularly in rough terrain. I've been trying out different handlebar sweep/rise setups, compromising a bit on the seat height, and I feel like I'm getting fairly close to getting it dialed in. I'm considering another handle bar replacement with a bit more rise to get the geometry and ergonomics closer to what it would be for the 'target' 80% of the population physiology. I found the L frame to be more comfortable overall than an XL, having ridden a bike with XL frame and found the new geometries with the extended reach dimension just unworkable.
@bestdayevermtb27 ай бұрын
I am very lucky being 5 foot 10 that most bikes fit ok for me. Have just bought a bike for my 5 foot wife. That was a challenge as even an xtra small is technically too big.
@jeremyharris4415 Жыл бұрын
Great video Lance and a very nice bike. I never had a issue with my Trek Rail 5 apart from the 500 watts battery. Pain in the bum the battery goes down way too quickly. Apart from that I did like the bike. I might go and check out the place you hired your one from. I’m hanging out to see how my back goes because sadly decided to sell it have not been able to ride for 7 months. And been off work for 18 months on ACC. So looking forward to seeing you on the next episode take care mate
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
They have a range of models to hire so worth trying a few rides to see how the back copes before buying another bike. You will get there.🙂
@eduardodinzey27143 ай бұрын
🎉😅 if they were a cheaper yes ... Trek Rail would be one of the best ! Everybody will agree with me that they are overpriced ...😅 I got an upgraded Raíl 5 ⚄ nx drive train kiox display and everything for sale 6,500 like new
@TheMaoriThatBikes Жыл бұрын
Reckon you'll convert to the PINION version when it lands?...me thinks alot of Ebikers might be regretting dipping in too soon if such good tech is inbound.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
That would be my dream bike.
@BH-cy9tb Жыл бұрын
I have a Rail 5 heavily modified almost nothing stock. But when I was using stock wheels really had no problems. The only thing I don’t like about my rail is the lack of shocks available for it. Also had a code pop up but got it fixed for 30 dollars. Overall very happy with it. 👍great video 😀
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video. I am sure many people have had little issues with their Trek given the large number of them. My friends all case jumps rather than clearing them so may explain all the broken spokes.😂
@d28k8311 ай бұрын
What upgrades did you add?
@BH-cy9tb11 ай бұрын
@@d28k83 Rock shox Zeb select + , spank vibrocore rims with industry 9 hubs , spank vibrocore handlebars, just got but haven’t put on yet DVO topaz gen 3 shock. Selle SMP trk seat, Magura brakes.
@leiththompson410 Жыл бұрын
Rode Rotorua yesterday on acoustic bike was a lot of trek rail e-bikes for sure
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
They are amazingly common. I would never say never but personally I like something that everyone is not riding.
@danielantonello4088 Жыл бұрын
On my radar for the next ebike. Will be a 9.8, 9.9 build with 750 wh smart system. I have two mates that own treks and both have buckled the bonty wheels. Not that great. The support from the LBS was good though. Also alot of loose bolts and bearing bolts, so watch out for that.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
If I was to buy one, I would go with the 750Wh and the higher spec also.
@wgnwheels3337 ай бұрын
Have had my rail 7 gen 2 for 15 months and have had zero problems nothing broken or stopped working , to me it doesn't ride like a 24 kg bike no smart system maybe simple can be better sometimes, best thing i did was put dhr2 and dhf maxxis on it
@bestdayevermtb27 ай бұрын
I wish I had your luck. I have never owned a bike yet that I haven't broken something on it. I just accept that as part of riding bikes. Just fixed my current bike with a broken pivot bolt. Maybe my riding needs to improve.
@wgnwheels3337 ай бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 I think it's because I ride mainly grade 3 trails and don't really (can't 🤣)do big jumps
@arcticautos2630 Жыл бұрын
The discussion should be is the Trek Rail 7 the best value for money.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I think you are correct, but I do love winding up my Rail loving friends.🙂
@arcticautos2630 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 I'm sure they took the bait too.This vid shows what a lower spec bike is capable of.If you can afford it then a high spec bike would be great.I'm sure all of us are guilty of staring at our bikes or someone elses with admiration more than once.They are like a piece of art.I think even a few of us would chose our bike over our least favourite child 😆
@SimonCartwright Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Same model as mine, really enjoy riding it! How did you find the Domain fork?
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I actually was pleasantly surprised. It was not bad.
@jokermtb Жыл бұрын
don't have an eeb yet, but at 56 years old, I'm definitely heading quickly there! My current faves/contenders are the Orbea Rise and/or the new Trek alloy version of the EXe. Such a good time to get into ebikes nowadays.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Just do it. You will love it. Planning on reviewing the EXe soon.
@bshallard Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 Have you got one lined up to test? I am loving mine. It's so quiet, particularly downhill.... not a single rattle or clunk.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
@@bshallard yes I have one lined up.
@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain10 ай бұрын
Good idea, then you can get weaker and lose muscle mass quicker. Might as well just start now. Frankly, I'm not sure how you're even riding a real bike at age 56.
@datractor Жыл бұрын
My rail 9 sits in the shed these days, gen 3 levo is just better in every aspect. I loved my time on the rail but it feels like a rental bike now. Bolts always come loose on the hardware, and kiosk errors every time you hit big jumps. Hate the knock block and the kiosk falls of if you don't put a grub screw in it. Good luck fitting a water bottle in there too lol
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I really did enjoy the gen 3 Levo. Fun bike to ride and I did like the display and controls.
@edhcb935911 ай бұрын
I’ve had the 9.7 rail for two years and 3,000 miles and I’ve literally never had any of those things happen. 🤷🏻♂️
@datractor11 ай бұрын
@@edhcb9359 how hard do you ride it though? I only ride in turbo and either bike park jumps or steep black tech
@bestdayevermtb211 ай бұрын
I am sure there are thousands of Rail owners who have never had any issues. All brands have faults, but Treks are more well known due to the popularity of the bike. Talking of faults though. I know three people who have had new motors after the motor mounting bolts broke. The good news is all three got new motors despite being out of warranty. Next time you get the bike serviced ask the bike shop to check these bolts.
@datractor11 ай бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 out of the 10 rails that I ride with none have had any motor issues touch wood. Definitely loose motor mounts though, they're spline drive not star but cheap enough to buy the one size you need to re tourqe. The bontrager wheels are made of cheese and the spokes snap every ride. Still a great bike though, probably the best "do it all" on the market
@NerdsonDirtMTB Жыл бұрын
First ebike I rode was a Rail, it was good but then I got a Levo. There is a reason the Levo is king :)
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I do like the Levo. Have had one and reviewed the latest model.
@Extremegaz25 Жыл бұрын
The spoke thing is real, two spokes have popped in the last two months, ive just covered 2500 miles and 2 1/2 years.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
It is a very common problem. Luckily not too hard to fix.
@peterknight15732 ай бұрын
Ive got a rail 9 gen 3 and the seat post was terrible I also have problems with the pedals hitting the ground I think the rear shock is actually to small for the job and the pedals are low to the ground could be just how I ride but you cant pedal around mild corners without the pedals hitting the ground
@bestdayevermtb22 ай бұрын
It is hard to remember every bike I ride, but I don't remember pedal strike on the one I rode. It certainly has been an issue on a lot of bikes for me. It could be the shock is too soft making the bottom bracket too low. I have several friends who have mulletted their bikes and still don't have an issue. Hope you can sort it.
@LarryRichelli18 күн бұрын
I sold my Trek Rail so I could get the LUNA X2 2000 watt carbon full suspension bike. No Rail can keep up with me. Sorry but one can't get the Luna X2 outside the US.
@bestdayevermtb217 күн бұрын
I had a look online at that bike. Very interesting. Not sure where it fits in legally as I know the US is very strict with e bikes.
@deanshields6139 Жыл бұрын
So Lance, what are the three best EMB’s you have ridden, the $20k+ models you mentioned? Cheers
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that. Probably the latest Turbo Levo, the Santa Cruz Bulit and the Pivot shuttle LT. The Best bike is of course my KTM Prowler but a lot cheaper.
@ForbinColossus Жыл бұрын
Purion? I'm surprised - is this the generation before Smart System? I wish they would upgrade the Intuvia display. It had such a clean display that color wasnt needed.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is the older model. I agree that Bosch displays and controls are not the best looking.
@SaundyB Жыл бұрын
Cant quite get my head around that big trapdoor in the side of the frame for the battery
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on that one. Especially when it falls out.😳
@IT-fr4wb3 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2022 w Zeb fork, going to b interesting seeing how it goes w my more aggressive riding(bin lightly used) noting t issues w spokes + tires + loose bits! we’ll see…..
@bestdayevermtb23 ай бұрын
I am sure you will have a lot of fun with it.
@golddiggerdave Жыл бұрын
For all the marketing blurb have ebikes really got that much better in the last 5 years? They are all built around the same few motor/battery combos and the frames are much as a muchness. I'm not anti ebikes I love mine, I have a top end ebike and the same entry level none MTB bike of the same bike. wireless shifters vs £25 derailleur with a cable zero difference, even the 4 pot brakes vs the entry level there's very little difference. The Ebike like all Ebikes are a dream on the trails with the heavier unsprung mass and they just absorb the terrain way way better than any other none ebike.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I think e bikes are evolving but it is not as fast as some people assumed. Excited about pinion gear box motor though.
@ivanbayarri280710 ай бұрын
Bike o frame? Trek wheels with 28 spokes are not for enduro riding you need 32 spokes. The fork you get fron a trek rail 7 is wortlees a zeb or a fox 38 or ohlins 38. Etc etc etc. but the actual frame is as good as it gets. Playfull fast agile fun easy to ride what else can you ask from an ebike reliable too
@bestdayevermtb210 ай бұрын
I have reviewed lots of bikes now and it is often difficult to compare one bike to another. Some I get to review are very high spec and some low spec. The bikes with high end suspension and brakes are always going to feel better. The Rail is a great bike and lots of fun. Not sure I would classify as highly reliable. Again, hard to compare as I know so many people with Rails I therefore have heard about lots of issues with the bike. Saying that most bikes have some issues.
@zed5129 Жыл бұрын
Had a 22 Rail 9.9 XTR for a short time. Solid bike, but I found it uninspiring. It wanted to be an Enduro bike but doesn't have the rear travel. Too much of a plow to be a good trail bike. Very noisy clatter from the Bosch motor. I have a '23 Levo now and it's the best bike I've owned. YMMV.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
The new Levo is definitely quieter to ride and a fun bike.
@RideyRodney Жыл бұрын
Did I see some steez on those last 4 jumps at 11:30? I think I did, I’m sure I did.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
You must have been mistaken.😀
@zakhodgson3455 Жыл бұрын
I've had a 9.8 XT since 2021. It's handled everything I've thrown at it, though I did go through a motor under warranty. Until a few months back, I had no complaints and was full of praise for the bike. Then I got a ride on a friends Santa Cruz Bullit, which was like a faster, silent, magic carpet. Sure, the Trek was a bit lighter feeling, bit more poppy, but the Bullit was just FAST and stayed on line over rooty off-cambers with minimal effort. Meanwhile, the Trek would rattle around a bit and required more effort to stay going where I wanted. Some of it might have been the tyres, the Trek was on the Bontrager SE 5s (a bit pogo stick by comparison), while the Bullit was on DH casing Assegais, but it was a dry day. I think the Rail is a fantastic Trail bike, that'll handle some Enduro/Downhill trails but you're not going to set any PB's if it gets rough.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I mentioned in the video that the Trek Rail was not in my list of favourite e bikes reviewed. The Bullit however would make that list. I had a lot of fun on that bike.
@andymcc886011 ай бұрын
How did you find the stopping power on the brakes? As a pretty big rider (bit north of 100kg riding a large frame from most manufacturers) that's a key factor for me
@bestdayevermtb211 ай бұрын
No issues with the brakes at all. To be honest I find most new brakes pretty good. They can develop problems over time but most brakes are pretty good these days.
@kingerz7 ай бұрын
Giant has same specs for less and not a rattle so I did not get one, but it was my second choice
@bestdayevermtb27 ай бұрын
Giant is another good choice but for some reason we don't see huge numbers of them in Auckland. Have ridden a few and enjoyed the ride.
@roberhatube23664 ай бұрын
Which rail ? The 5, 7, 8 , 9 , or any of the .5, .7, .o, .9.9 ???. So many iterations, I know someone who gave up and bought a Levo !
@bestdayevermtb24 ай бұрын
Generally speaking the higher the number the better. It depends how high end the components you want are. If you simply want to ride around gravel cycle paths then a 5 is all you need. If you want to jump and ride tech and want higher performance then go for a 9. Even a Levo comes in a range of spec and frame options.
@ChrisB7797 Жыл бұрын
go the rail 7 ! maybe not the best e bike ever, but probably the best value....(trek did not pay me to say that ,) not yet anyway.....
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I think that is why they have been so popular. The guys were all Santa cruz fans but couldn't afford them so went Trek instead.
@ChrisB7797 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 yes, i think most of us would agree that E bikes are way over priced, and probably mountain bikes generally......
@garethhugeharvey Жыл бұрын
Love my rail 7, not the best bike ever…. But a great bike for the money.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Same conclusion as me.😁
@downundermtb4744 Жыл бұрын
Trek rail is the best Ebike ever made 😂 yep we have one ☝️
@Becker3333 ай бұрын
My 2020 9.7 will climb ANYTHING
@ab_mtb10 ай бұрын
Great video. Im currently trying to decide bewteen a 23 levo comp alloy & a gen2 rail 9. Both are on sale but the Rail has better spec for less money but levo seams to win everything going + has way better intergration of the electrics. Any advice? Thanks
@bestdayevermtb210 ай бұрын
Personally, if I had to choose between a Levo and a Rail I would choose the Levo. I think the Trek as you say gives you more bang for your buck. I did do a review on a Levo Expert a while back and really loved that bike. I know the Brose motor had a lot of issues a few years back. I went through 2 motors in 18 months, but I think that has been resolved now. Best of luck with your decision but both bikes would be good.
@ab_mtb10 ай бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 appreciate the reply. Thanks
@Iwo266 ай бұрын
Rail or the Bullit ? Which one would you choose?
@bestdayevermtb26 ай бұрын
Tricky. The Bullit with the Bosch motor would be the best choice. I know a guy selling his Bullit to by a rail just to get the Bosch motor.
@Iwo266 ай бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 Thank you !
@fielden4253 ай бұрын
what is the light in your night ride clip @ 13.05?
@bestdayevermtb23 ай бұрын
I think I was testing the Magicshine monteer 12000. Very powerful light.
@johnsmeyers1970 Жыл бұрын
Nice review! I had a doubt between the Rail and the Fuel. Going 100% for the Rail. I'm 174cm and have a innerleg size of 84cm. Would you recommed a M or L size? Thx
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Tricky as you like me are at the cross over point. According to your height you should be a medium but your inseam you should be a large. Either would work but ideally test both if possible. It really comes down to personal preference. For me I would take the large but I am slightly taller.
@johnsmeyers1970 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 Have had the opportunity to ride both size M and L yesterday. Size M clearly gives more feedback and control. So it will be an M for me.
@MrSupermugen Жыл бұрын
IMO the Trek rail is kinda like a toyota, super common, super reliable and sets the standard for an ebike, bikes like the Levo/reign etc remind me of a ford/GM product, close & maybe better performance but theres always something to keep in your mind with them.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I like you analogy with the cars. Was trying to do the same thing.
@dereknicol346511 ай бұрын
Your right, there is allot of those out there 😂
@MagicshineLights Жыл бұрын
Good sharing, Lance!
@3000KTM Жыл бұрын
in your opinion the rail 7 vs the levo comp alloy ? both don’t have great spec but roughly the same price right now …which would you buy ?
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Always a personal decision but I would probably go with the Levo.
@Beepboopmakerbot Жыл бұрын
This vs Orbea wild?
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Been awhile since I have reviewed a orbea wild but definitely a nice bike.
@zed5129 Жыл бұрын
I bet the new Wild coming will shred the Rail. I have owned the older alloy Wild FS and the newer Rail. I preferred the Wild to be honest, it's a lot shorter and more nimble feeling. The suspension on the Wild is amazing and is a great bike for max speed runs. Doesn't like to get off the ground and is the opposite of poppy, soaks everything up. I bet the new Wild will be amazing, but for my trails the Levo is better suited. The Wild would come into it's own somewhere gnarlier.
@terrygoodfellow5009 Жыл бұрын
Why not test a rail 9 or 9.8 the specs are much much better.
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I test bikes that are available to me. I would love to be able to review anything I want but don't have that option. As the channel has grown more bikes are being offered to me and hopefully that will get even better in the future.
@razorray9955 Жыл бұрын
Lance, what lights are you using?
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
I use magic shine lights.
@razorray9955 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lance! Also big fan of your channel.
@Growler_Guy Жыл бұрын
Not even close to the greatest EMTB, try again look at Optibike R22 Everest (3260Wh Removable Dual Battery, 1700 Watts Continuous Power, 2500 Peak) Compare the TREK RAIL to Frey Voyager EX - BEAST (Custom 60V 24.5ah, Bafang M620, 1800W)
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
The thing regarding what is best is a matter of opinion. My opinion is the Trek Rail is not the best bike. I checked out the Optibike R22 and would have no interest in owning one of them. I can see some people might think that is good, but I wouldn't be one of them.
@dereknicol346511 ай бұрын
I don't have a trek rail...instead a Focus sam² 6.9 i think one of your crew has one...never had issue with it ever...already had a trek remedy steambike before so wanted to try something different from trek...don't like bogenger rims...they crap.
@bestdayevermtb211 ай бұрын
Nobody ever has anything nice to say about the wheels. Yes, Shaun has a Focus. He loves it.
@dereknicol346511 ай бұрын
@bestdayevermtb2 it's like a German tank lol.
@dereknicol346511 ай бұрын
@bestdayevermtb2 best wheels I had was those industry nine wheels with pull thru spokes orange... no broke da spokes on those rims.
@preyingmathis2517 Жыл бұрын
Ooooooof!!! Can't be having my butt pounded by that seat!
@stevenfyfe585 Жыл бұрын
Best bike available
@kingrat738 Жыл бұрын
Short answer = no... Canyon make the best e-mtb's 🤘
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Not had a chance to review a Canyon yet but would be very keen to do so.
@kingrat738 Жыл бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 not sure they've released any in NZ 😭
@BigMal76 Жыл бұрын
Keen to see a Canyon Strive On in action if they come
@TheGhostfaceKLR11 ай бұрын
It's hard to beat Canyon's prices. I have a Canyon Pathlite:On for that very reason. If the Canyon Spectral:On used the Bosch Smart system, it'd be my eMTB. I'm sold on the Bosch in my Pathlite, and I want to stick with it for my eMTB.
@jimmorrison7555 Жыл бұрын
Haha, another rail 9 owner, brilliant spec vs cost, yes the rear wheels are a bit rubbish but come on. Ive got 2600k on a stock 9 with zero other issues, which cost less than half of an equivalent levo at the time. A wheel set is what 1500 for a top spec alloy rim set?, you're still way better off if you are going to ride hard and put it away wet😂
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
The reality is we know about Trek Rail faults but that is because so many people have that bike. The reality is all brands have issues. I had a Levo for a while and had to have two motors replaced.
@RoySki0077 ай бұрын
What bike park is it at 10:55 ?
@bestdayevermtb27 ай бұрын
Woodhill Bike park in Auckland.
@feltzbob58575 ай бұрын
Hab mir ein Trek Rail 9.5 zugelegt, hab noch nie so ein Schrott gesehen. Das Fahrrad ist nach 4000 km auseinander gefallen. Bis auf den Motor war alles am Fahrrad kaputt. Der Kundenservice ist das Allerletzte. Nie nie nie mehr ein Trek Fahrrad !!!!
@bestdayevermtb25 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got a lemon and worse a lemon with poor support. Many people have had no issues with their Rail but many of my friends have had lots of issues like you. Hope you get it sorted.
@ToddNZMTB Жыл бұрын
rail as in railgun, because it's electric... 🤔
@o77i Жыл бұрын
no
@doctorpc4x4 Жыл бұрын
Yeah so its a good bike BUT its not orange KTM is it. (LOL)
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Well clearly the KTM is the best ever that goes without saying 😂
@eduardodinzey27143 ай бұрын
😂🎉😅 if they were a cheaper yes ... Trek Rail would be one of the best ! Everybody will agree with me that they are overpriced ...😅 I got an upgraded Raíl 5 ⚄ nx drive train kiox display and everything for sale 6,500 like new..
@bestdayevermtb23 ай бұрын
Most people agree that e bikes are overpriced if you compare them to motor bikes and the like. But in terms of value for money, the Rail beats most of its competitors. Certainly in NZ anyway. That is why they are so popular here.
@eduardodinzey27143 ай бұрын
@@bestdayevermtb2 do you know who wants to buy my bike .. jajajajajaja
@bestdayevermtb23 ай бұрын
@eduardodinzey2714 sorry can't think of anyone. Harder to sell now.
@twosencefromcleveland6084 Жыл бұрын
MOTORCYCLES are the other magazines...
@TheGhostfaceKLR11 ай бұрын
Troll
@roddas26 Жыл бұрын
The correct answer is NO
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Same conclusion as me then.😀
@chrish8871 Жыл бұрын
No
@percivalgooglyeyes61784 ай бұрын
Aren't those bloody yank bikes?
@betttina33333 Жыл бұрын
NO SPECIALIZED IS
@ParabellumUk Жыл бұрын
hell no!.. Best emtb ever Mondraker if you know you know.. Crafty / Level 🤫
@bestdayevermtb2 Жыл бұрын
Have ridden one a few years back but never had a chance to review one properly.
@paulfarrant656 Жыл бұрын
The Rail 9.8 is the best Bike around. I am trying the 9.9 this year if it ever gets delivered!