Bosch RACE Motor. Is it actually faster?

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Best Day Ever MTB

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@Jeffnz020 Ай бұрын

Bloody good videos you make. Keep them up!

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Thanks very much. I really appreciate that.🙂

@markthompson7817 10 күн бұрын

A few of my mates have had their motors chipped so that their top speeds are not limited. Their strava times have all improved. This makes a big difference. But there is a whole world of, is it the right thing to do. It may not apply in NZ but you wouldn’t want to crash into someone with a chipped bike and put them in hospital in the states, insurance companies will do all they can not to pay out and to come and collect from you if they can.

@bestdayevermtb2 10 күн бұрын

NZ is very different. Firstly it is not against the law to derestrict a bike. You simply have to obey the posted speed limits and the bike must not be over a certain power output. Secondly you cannot sue for accidents causing injury. All accidents in NZ are covered by a thing called ACC. Medical bills paid and you receive 80% of your wages while you can't work. Even tourist are covered by ACC. Not a perfect system but I believe much better than having to hope you medical insurance will cover your bills and having to get a lawyer and try to extract money from someone who doesn't have any.

@markthompson7817 9 күн бұрын

@ got all that and agree with you the question is should we all be chipping our bikes in NZ, or not, one bike shop the other day told their customer it would void their warranty. I am sure there are two sides to the argument. I am not sure where I stand on this. And, do you need the race version of the Bosch motor if you have chipped the standard version, I get the feeling looking at your data and riding with guys on chipped bikes that chipped bikes are more of an advantage than the race version. (FYI i love my Bosch on my rail and run it in EMTB most of the time, sometimes using the turbo to climb straight fire roads, e.g. Maraetai and have a rest and chat as we ride, before the next run downhill).

@bestdayevermtb2 9 күн бұрын

@markthompson7817 Yes chipping the bike will void the warranty if they are aware. Although I know multiple people who have had warranty claims despite the motor being chipped. Chipping would be a much bigger advantage than the race motor, well downhill anyway. I must admit a derestricted bike is so nice to ride. It is not about speed but the motor just feels so much nicer.

@rogermiles1655 Ай бұрын

Oh I was referring to not having room to store the bike lol. And I totally understand about the wife not liking it when you get random pictures.. It was really good to see her get out and ride with you this year BTW.. I used to live in between New Lynn and Titirangi, played a lot of golf at Pinesong when it was still a golf course and I managed to get myself on the front page of the Herald back 84 I believe it was, hit a tree while rallying in Riverhead. Anyways keep up the good work and if you plan on Whistler next year give us a date, I'm only about 5 hours from there in WA state.

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Would love to get back to Whistler. Not sure I will make it next year but you never know.

@HPdot-eo3vx Ай бұрын

Love the vids🔥

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Thanks heaps 😊

@d4055415 Ай бұрын

both beautiful bikes mate

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

I love them both.😊

@seniorsone5066 Ай бұрын

Good review, not sure if I could go back now after having the Race motor. Can’t wait to see what they do next… 🤫

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Yes, not sure if a gen 5 race will come out or has the race motor had its day.

@doctorpc4x4 Ай бұрын

Well cant argue with the numbers

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

I love numbers. 😊

@mitchcocker4514 Ай бұрын

Great video Lance! Should have got the steamer out to compare that on the uphills 😅 Also is that part you were riding in getting logged at all?

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Yeah nah on the steamer idea. These tracks are not being felled in the near future.

@rogermiles1655 Ай бұрын

Don't sell it I'm going to need something to ride when I come visit mate, would love to get out with Dads Army. Love the videos, always makes me laugh.

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

I have thought of keeping it so others can ride it. Finding somewhere to keep it is the challenge.

@vaughanharrison1191 Ай бұрын

Hi Lance. Have a question for you which is slightly off topic. Have you or any of dad's army used Secure storage at auckland airport? I'm flying to Queenstown with my bike from Sydney and stopping in Auckland for a few days to visit my parents on the way. Just wondering if they provide a good service. Thanks 👍

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

No idea on that one. We are trying to research leaving 7 bike boxes in Hobart for a week. Any ideas on that one?

@vaughanharrison1191 Ай бұрын

@bestdayevermtb2 At the airport or anywhere? Friend of mine just got back from Derby, ill ask him.

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

@vaughanharrison1191 Thanks. Near Hobart airport. We are hiring two Ute's with bike racks. Want to leave bike boxes behind.

@legyvanmaster Ай бұрын

Thanx for the video mate. I would say, that noticable difference can only be on steepest climbs, you rode mixed trail, where the power of the race model ( 400% assist, 600w peak power) is not so relevant. And one more thing - you gotta ride a race motor for some time and "learn" its potential. Then you can be much faster. For downhill its no point to compare any ebike motor, how can it be any different, if you ride with 30, 40, 50 km/h...

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Yes I agree. The race motor is better with steep technical terrain. As mentioned in the video, I don't have any trails like that where I live. This is a problem for e bikes in general as most up trails are not that steep. The only way to find steep is to ride a DH track the wrong way. This is obviously not a good idea in most situations. I timed the bikes downhill as I had to go down to come up, so I might as well. I also wanted to see if the bikes were a similar speed without the motor, which they were. Yes, it would be nice if redbull flew me to the Italian Alps with two identical bikes with just different motors, but hey, we live in the real world.

@rogermiles1655 Ай бұрын

OK new question, I see that you have Continental kryptotal on the red one and Swable not sure which ones, my question is what are your thoughts on both and how do they differ?

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

I was running Argotals front and back and they were excellent in muddy conditions but not so good on hard dry conditions. The kryptotal is a faster roller tire and is only a 2.4. The exonic has Eddy currents on it. I have struggled with these in wet conditions but they are good in all other conditions. The rear is a 2.8 so a big tire but great for grip when climbing steep stuff. Why my tire choices? The exonic came with the Schwalbes and I got given some Contis to try when I was on the orange bike. Hope that helps😊

@dae3xt Ай бұрын

you are a very successful man. and you poop money. would you buy a nicolai mgu saturn 16? don't you want a belt drive? please purchase and do a review. thank you. I'm too poor to buy on at this time.

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

It may appear like I poop money but the reality is I am very careful with money. One of the perks of having a youtube channel is getting access to nice bikes and riding kit. If Nicolai wants to send me a bike I would love to review it. Saying that I have made 1 to 2 videos every week for 6 years. Not an easy way to get a few freebies.😂

@markthompson7817 10 күн бұрын

@@bestdayevermtb2I think the if you were… was implied.

@NZMtbGuy Ай бұрын

Mate, come back to Queenstown so we can do another test! Over a whole weekend or more. You on the race, me on the smart system CX (because your old KTM isn’t smart system right?), and then we swap bikes (cause I use clips too) and do the same trails again…

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

We could do that. Or we could just do mini dream. Depends if you can find a bike that doesn't break!

@NZMtbGuy Ай бұрын

@@bestdayevermtb2⁠ha ha low blow! I think I have learned that maintenance is key! My bike has had a full refresh for this season and I’m ready to video you casing the jumps at Mini Dream 😜

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

@NZMtbGuy I am good at casing.

@kelvinhieatt6226 Ай бұрын

So with all the climbing involved, which one are you going to bring to race the Piki50-25e?

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Can I swap bikes after 1 lap?😂

@kelvinhieatt6226 Ай бұрын

@ a lap of each you reckon? Now that would be an interesting advance test of the difference between the two. No time for a breather in the middle though.

@ddsgardening7437 Ай бұрын

Hey lance what's the bikes weight, Cheers from W.A Australia

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

I think it is 25kg. Not super light but to be honest I like the full fat e bikes.

@ddsgardening7437 Ай бұрын

So do i love my Giant reign +1its a beast,take care @bestdayevermtb2

@Wimbelder Ай бұрын

This is a comparison of noting different bikes this is carbon vs aluminium fox vs rock shox and the race motor have the race modes that is faster

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, but not sure what you are trying to saying. Are you saying the bikes are too different so the motor comparison is invalid? The fact that on a track where the motor was not a factor the bikes were effectively the same speed shows this not to be the case.

@Wimbelder Ай бұрын

@ oké but bikes are not the same that wil make a difference But you did not use te race motor to te max use the race modes it is special to the cx race motor

@AndrewUpson Ай бұрын

Wait till we get the DJI motor......

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

Would love to try that

@davefreeman9347 Ай бұрын

Rob rides emtb tested it on a short climb on his channel against the new Bosch gen 5 motor and pinion the Pinion did it around 39 seconds Bosch 37 DJI dis it in 30 seconds something like that anyhow absolutely savage motor 🤯

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

@@davefreeman9347 Yes I saw that video. Very interesting looking bike.

@Jeffnz020 Ай бұрын

120nm and was it 1200w on boost for 30sec. Insane.

@porroco Ай бұрын

Yeah, but the woke cyclist said motor has a weir sound it rattle, they got the gen 5. Who cares about that rattle

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

I'm not sure who the woke cyclist is, but getting rid of the motor rattle has to be a good thing.

@porroco Ай бұрын

I own a ep8 and that’s something i have never paid attention to it. CX is the race version better motor can handle heat much better, but cx was made for the crystal cyclist, just to get rid off the rattle

@bestdayevermtb2 Ай бұрын

@porroco I really appreciate feedback and comments on my videos, but I am struggling a little to understand what you are trying to say. I have no idea what a crystal cyclist is? The Bosch CX motor has traditionally always had a rattle noise in the motor. The Gen 5 has removed that. Is that not a good thing? I am a bit confused.

@porroco Ай бұрын

@@bestdayevermtb2the crystal gen, i rather performance than just worry about a rattle sound.