Man, these fail review videos are no joke one of the most useful things as a beginner climber. Obviously there is a lot of additional knowledge that goes into preventing these fails. But simply becoming aware of the possible mistakes, makes it infinitely easier to avoid making them. Also, as bad as this sounds, watching people get hurt is a great way to maintaine a humble demeanor. Overconfidence is just as dangerous as ignorance.
@mitchellbarnow1709 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your third child being on the way! You are some awesome parents from what you've shared with us!
@Andrew-mc7fz Жыл бұрын
Highball bouldering is free-soloing, change my mind. I've talked to people who disagree with that surprisingly enough.
@rock_your_boat Жыл бұрын
What is the minimum hight for a boulder to be called a highball?
@stefanovitali2925 Жыл бұрын
@@rock_your_boat could be wrong, but it's more a sensation than a definite number. Like, if by falling you hurt yourself very bad, that's a highball. Imho, over 6m. Maybe more if not a vertical slab
@rock_your_boat Жыл бұрын
@@stefanovitali2925 interesting, I don't know if I would agree with that. I have a project that is just over 5 and a half meters tall with a perfectly flat landing and still I wouldn't want to have to bail from up top, it looks like the fall alone would hurt and I ain't no pussy if you can believe that. I'd really like to hear from more people on the topic of, when does a boulder gets upgraded to a highball.
@stefanovitali2925 Жыл бұрын
@@rock_your_boat 5 and a half IS high! Wouldn't want to bail too, no shame. Is it bolted on top?
@rock_your_boat Жыл бұрын
@@stefanovitali2925 nah, I work it on top rope, it's a project waiting for a first ascend
@antonjellinghaus5514 Жыл бұрын
In the first vid, you can see that the person who is abseiling. Is really grabbing that brake side of the rope, and pulling it down so great reaction from him/her
@geoninja8971 Жыл бұрын
I saw that, I thought he was going to snap that rope! Not his first abseil.....
@AndyZ-hz7oh Жыл бұрын
Your comments and advice on the trad traverse video were spot on. Having just injured both ankles falling onto a ledge as a result of not placing enough gear, I wish I had thought about this a little earlier! Good to have you back and congratulations on your expanding family!
@twinmike1 Жыл бұрын
The person under the water fall fell fast because as you are lower on a rope the friction decrease because the rope below the device is lighter. At the top of a rappel there is much more weight of rope and the friction is a lot higher.
@InfamousMS Жыл бұрын
Yes, you’ve been missed! Thanks for another great video. 🙏🏼👊🏼
@washburnb1 Жыл бұрын
I'm an old former trad 5.7 on site climber (my friends were no better 🙂 ) from Smith Rocks and your advice is thoughtful and very true. I was probably too careful leading and never got very good, but I never had a bad fall either in 30 on site climbs. Yes, trad is very different than sport. I could do 5.9 following trad and 5.10 sport with lots of attempts.
@climbalamuerte Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with your thoughts on trad placement/safety. I just recently whipped on a trad MP when a boulder dislodged and because I was run out, I sustained some broken bones - could have been worse. Wish I had placed another piece just prior. Lessons learned for sure.
@MrMatrixMinds Жыл бұрын
Wow, that 1st one, could have used it as a training video when I was instructing and teaching trainees how to set up for taking novices abseiling. Wish I could get a proper look at the appalling anchor build - at least it didn't fail entirely. Novice had a near miss with that fully loaded rope across his neck from the safety rope guy falling past him from what I can make out too.
@RossPotts Жыл бұрын
I was taught as a rappelling instructor for the Army to always use a PAS, though, I am so old now, it was just a 15 foot rope. If that first dude wasn’t planning on going down, he should’ve hooked in better. I still use one, even when I set up a short rappel.
@mountainremedy1784 Жыл бұрын
RE the guy abbing in to the pool, he’s canyoning, having anything like a prussik or assisted breaking device would be extremely dangerous in this context. You want to be able to free yourself from the rope easily when you’re abseiling into water.
@IAmSaveRio Жыл бұрын
it looks like they're being lowered though....there's no rope below them, which makes this even more fked up
@rrwareing Жыл бұрын
The guy with the waterfall - it looks like they are canyoning. Often an autoblock or prussik isn't used - for other safety reasons. Often an adjustable friction device is used to manage the friction on wet ropes. Not a criticism, just some context.
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
Always Appreciated!
@julieweisz1325 Жыл бұрын
I don't see a rope under them, it looks like they may be being lowered? On a figure eight on a bight maybe? @@BetaClimbers
@Pants13 Жыл бұрын
@@julieweisz1325took a second look and I also didn’t see a rope below. Looks like someone dropped their canyoning buddy :/
@PiotrBerlowski Жыл бұрын
@@Pants13isn't that an abseil bag on their leg? The rope is clear coiled inside and paid out of the bag while abseiling. This is to prevent getting the rope tangled while throwing it down. My suspicion here is that the friction device wasn't tight enough and the person lost control due to slippage on the wet rope.
@ScottyDub-E-U Жыл бұрын
I liked this video before the first ad ended. I love every video!
@andrewb7633 Жыл бұрын
Whoop new content! Congrats on the upcoming baby too!
@BDawgoftheNorth Жыл бұрын
Love that you're back man, good to see! Keep it up!!
@ClimbingOntario Жыл бұрын
3 kids you better save some energy! Hahaha. Congrats brother, I have 2 so I feel for ya. It's all worth it though, I'd never change a thing.🙏🙏🍺🍺
@nilsp9426 Жыл бұрын
That first one is really instructive.
@nigellax4542 ай бұрын
“He looks like he’s alright” He’s totally not alright 😂
@michaelgeorge2963 Жыл бұрын
that intro was the best thing I've seen all week
@FallLineJP Жыл бұрын
Dropping some timeless wisdom on us at the end there 😂 Top notch! 💪🫡🫡
@Austingust801 Жыл бұрын
Been missing these
@souter224 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see a new video. Congratulations on the kiddo.
@dereinzigwahreRichi Жыл бұрын
Congrats to having another little climber on its way, Josh! :-)
@HowToGuroo Жыл бұрын
that intro was nightmare fuel!
@samo27010 ай бұрын
I liked the video at "You missed me?" part.
@timh69410 ай бұрын
9 times out of 10 I prefer using a Grigri, but I have used it since I started climbing again. The only thing it does not do for my sport climbing is rappel off anchors and that's something you don't need to do very often on single pitch climbs.
@petermolnar98447 ай бұрын
The end is the best😂
@Johnny_Cash_Flow Жыл бұрын
Missed these. Congrats on the baby making.
@tom.2900 Жыл бұрын
You missed that in the 2nd clip, the guy is being lowered by someone else, not abseiling. Also, to measure the gap jump, you whip a loop to the other side, HALF how much is out and add a small armful.
@Jh0ac Жыл бұрын
The first guy didn't lose his balance. The rope pulled his foot off if you watch it again. It was poor decision on his part to be standing on the swinging side of the rope. The rope is off centered as you mentioned and naturally has a tendency to swing back to center. The guy stood in the path of that potential swing and hopefully learned from this experience. You can off center rappel sometimes, but its hard and gravity always eventually wins in the end.
@Keldor314 Жыл бұрын
His foot got caught under the rope. He probably caused the rope to become dislodged when he yanked his foot out. Mind your fingers and toes and hands and feet when manipulating loaded ropes, folks!
@Jh0ac Жыл бұрын
@@Keldor314 His foot did get lodged, but the rope was already swinging that way regardless. His swiping his foot out probably contributed too, but the rope wasn't in any channel regardless and was already going to swing that way with or without his foot. I've done a lot of rappel practice, including offset scenarios for canyoneering and redirects. Best line is always straight down from the anchor point, but that's not always possible and they may have been trying to practice this too. Just poor positioning by the "guide". Luckily he was smart enough to be attached to the anchor as well.
@Keldor314 Жыл бұрын
If you look at the shadows on the rock, there appears to be a recess in the are they're placing the rope. While we can't tell for sure from the camera's distance and angle, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that it might have been sufficienty deep to prevent the rope from going anywhere had not someone's foot gotten caught in there while they were positioning it. We need more camera angles of the location. Anyway, one mistake the guide definitely did make was standing on the wrong side of the rope. Regardless of the security of the intended final position, it's clear what direction it will swing should something go wrong early just like in the video. That is, assuming the original plan wasn't for the rappeller to descend clear on the other side of the arrete. Miscommunication is always a possibility too. As for why they didn't lower further to the left, I'm going to point out that there's a big crack over there, and maybe they didn't want the rope getting caught up running through it. Or maybe they're setting up to top-rope the arrete route, and want the rope to be aligned with where they're climbing.
@Jh0ac Жыл бұрын
Yeah you right, regardless of what they were trying to accomplish, it was just bad positioning by the guide.
@IvanMilyakov11 ай бұрын
I thought Josh meant that the abseiling guy lost his balance and dragged the other one down
@PYates77 Жыл бұрын
Looks like in the second clip the canyoneer isnt lowering themselves but instead being lowered by someone managing the anchor at the top who loses control of the brake strand?
@dikkind00128 күн бұрын
the intro is so good haha
@andrefivethousand Жыл бұрын
Til I meet the big rock in the sky… deep, my friend. 😂
@travisgrimm Жыл бұрын
Been looking for your vids
@Stimm0026 ай бұрын
If you watch the first clip, the rope ends up on the guys foot, because he's on the edge the rope pulls his foot of the edge.
@BrandonWendt2 Жыл бұрын
We need the climbing fails song. I started singing it the moment I saw there was a new video. A year ago I learned the chords on guitar and sang it for my mom.
@raganusmc Жыл бұрын
Always where a helmet ladies and gentlemen
@danglingdads-climbingupthe49 Жыл бұрын
I approve the message at the very start
@danglingdads-climbingupthe49 Жыл бұрын
Especially because if you find that video I explain the helmet issue 😂
@zedaprime Жыл бұрын
Nicely treating these examples as learning opportunities.
@cmdmd Жыл бұрын
Gri Gris are the best fail-safe belay device. I will NEVER climb without it and NEVER use a tube device. Tube devices are one small distraction away from an accident.
@nicolaslidy735 Жыл бұрын
Yes, missed you! :D But what was that intro?? I thought my screen was broken.
@christianharriot15782 ай бұрын
If the rope slid that far to the side, there was probably only a single anchor. Not good to slide your single protection along the edge of the cliff.
@bsuarez345510 ай бұрын
Lmfao If I only had a video of what I did this last week I would take the dummy of the year award! I’m alive but I really learned not to be over confident with your skills hahahab
@Jokl92 Жыл бұрын
That was some wisdom in the end for sure. With the what an idiot vs. he’s got ba11s
@OnRappel Жыл бұрын
That one guy, is that a factor 2 fall? I assume he's hooked into a dynamic rope? That's some major force.
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
No it’s still a factor 1. He would need to fall twice the rope length to hit a 2. You need to be above your anchor to get close to two. He was kinda level with it.
@geoninja8971 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't see a lot of stretch in that rope - it looked static to me....
@ELarivie Жыл бұрын
I want to watch this video but it’s really difficult with the screen split 50/50
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
Yeah its because all the videos are from vertical phone clips nowadays…
@isaaclong9341 Жыл бұрын
YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I MISSED YOU!
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
First clip was the school of hard knocks I think.
@Noahedwar Жыл бұрын
You mentioned that guy was guiding the rope into a little notch or something.. well he guided it right onto his own foot and then the weight of the person on the end ripped his foot right off the edge. Why the heck did he do that?!
@keenanmurray65 Жыл бұрын
@@Noahedwar Yeah, that guy standing on the ledge was definitely in the wrong place and should have realized the rope might slip his direction. And he still had quite a bit of slack out. Lucky he didn't flip and hit his head.
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
@@Noahedwar trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it’s possible he didn’t know what the hell he was doing in the first place.
@linksgrunversifft4270 Жыл бұрын
Really missed u!
@ShortyJenkans Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking … when is Josh gonna post ?!! Thank you. Hey wait a minute, what happened to the theme song !
@richiewinter2800 Жыл бұрын
I was the jump across guy. To make a few things clear: the belayer wasn’t in the system. The rope was fixed (I was the only one in the system.) jumping across free solo sounds dumb but I appreciate your input. Props on building a successful platform but you should at least read the comments before you monetize other peoples climbing content.
@keenanmurray65 Жыл бұрын
So you wouldn't have pulled the belayer off if you fell? Just want to clarify. Either way, a gutsy little hop. Kudos.
@richiewinter2800 Жыл бұрын
@@keenanmurray65 yes correct
@setadoon Жыл бұрын
Shorten your rope or shorten your life bro lol
@richiewinter2800 Жыл бұрын
@@setadoon i agree it should’ve been shorter. I just didn’t want it to be too short and kinda over did it. I just wanted to clarify the belayer thing
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
The solo comment was a joke, well not really, if I was tied into you I’d rather you solo then yank me off with the amount of force you’d generate. 🤣 Clip was sent to me on my email, I didn’t get that key info so thanks for letting me know. Kudos for not dying. 🤙🏻 There is a section on half dome (forgot the route name) where you have to throw a nut and get it jammed in a crack to get across to the next section. Is there any way you can toss a nut into a crack first before the jump? Or maybe you can bring a cheater stick and place a nut? 🤔
@GrigoryGladyshev Жыл бұрын
Hi there! Congrats to you and your family! Your vids are great and they showcase a need for an increased safety awareness of the community. If your intros would've been shorter that would've been even better.
@austinlee5961 Жыл бұрын
“Like, ya know, whatever” - Joshua Perry Circa 2023
@benotyourboss Жыл бұрын
I had a bouldering fail on sunday now my right foot is f*cked… need to see a doctor asap
@dereinzigwahreRichi Жыл бұрын
About the first one: wouldnt it be wise for the belayer to secure himself with a sling or something on that anchor point?
@johndemeen5575 Жыл бұрын
Hope everyone had time to enjoy the pain.
@HochstartHarry Жыл бұрын
I sometimes climb through really tight passages, or even lil tunnels just to fuck with my follower. Dont worry, its absolutly accepted and funny for the both of us (we are super similiar buildt) not in hard routes thought, sometimes when trad climbing ofwidths with textile pro (saxon sandstone) you can only place gear really far in the ofwidth which is a pain to get out. Those are the less accepted ones 😂 also because its ussualy physical torture to get up there in the first place.
@geoninja8971 Жыл бұрын
The first guy - my comment would be his safety is WAY too long.... We allow enough to get to, and look over the edge, but that's it. I don't want any whippers on our static abseiling stuff.....
@kevinscheetz9643 Жыл бұрын
Kinda bothers me how manufactured the video with the woman climbing through the hole was. Over-complicated move followed by constant jump cuts hiding how much she aided the crack. Climb how you want, but it doesn't really feel in the spirit of climbing.
@Trollylamy Жыл бұрын
Second guy didnt rapelled by himself, he was rapelled.
@fromtahiti24 Жыл бұрын
Number 2 : (5:58) is belaying by a friend from the top
@dave_h_8742 Жыл бұрын
British tourist fell off the stairway to heaven in Austria free thousands of feet, well dead.
@mirandahotspring4019 Жыл бұрын
That 1st one was an accident waiting to happen! The belayer was an idiot to rig it like that! 2nd one the dude just lost control through bad technique. A single rope in a figure 8 is fairly fast, he could have added more friction at the top with a carabiner. His hand was way too close to the fig 8, better to have your control hand right behind you so you get more friction with the rope running over your hip. 3rd one, just dumb. 4th one, more pro as you go dude! Belayer should have been anchored too. 5th one! Imagine taking a leader fall with the rope through the hole! Last one, give that lad a Darwin Award!
@drokkyu Жыл бұрын
0:43 missed you a lot
@dmsmikhail Жыл бұрын
my tailbone hurts now
@SparkeyAvalon Жыл бұрын
Is it just me? Or you completely missed the part where the guy in the first fail actually put the rope on his foot instead of the rock? To me it looks like that was the problem. He panicked and let go of the hanging guy before the rope got in the slot.
@BetaClimbers Жыл бұрын
Tbh I gave that guy the Benefit of the doubt I don’t think there was even a slot..I certainly don’t see one. Maybe a that crack farther away I can make out…. He shouldn’t have been where he was at all imo.
@BirdieBirdieBirdie5666 ай бұрын
Remember to wear your helmet folks!
@scotto7924 Жыл бұрын
Why was there so much slack with the man that fell from the edge. It seemed taught but then when he fell a load of slack appeared. His fall should have been arrested immediately.
@stevenstrangeways Жыл бұрын
No one got hurt in the first video clip? I'm betting that Mr. White Shorts has a busted pelvic bone!
@takeiteasy8847 Жыл бұрын
Free solo is so much fun until it isnt anymore
@mitchellbarnow1709 Жыл бұрын
Smart kids! Wear a helmet and strap it on correctly or it will just fall off of your head!
@markifi Жыл бұрын
are you uploading 24 fps footage on a 60 fps timeline? that's illegal
@AntonAdelson Жыл бұрын
Like for the third kid!
@MushookieMan Жыл бұрын
You have a saying for everything I swear
@cathysilva5435 Жыл бұрын
These are so tough to watch.
@milkdrinker5782 Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@trekking2494 Жыл бұрын
Porque ele não está com o capacete, essa foi boa!🤜🇧🇷
@whelmking6497 Жыл бұрын
Get some friends! Harsh! (but true)
@eljjtp Жыл бұрын
I wanted to watch this but just couldn’t with you just talking while that thing looped on the left. The first 5 times cool but you are going on and on for minutes white a 3 sec video looped and I lost it and had to bail. Play the video and talk to cut the loop or talk less.
@lucface Жыл бұрын
Miss yo face dude.
@thomashowell54922 ай бұрын
First one was a really bad instructor belayed repeal
@barneyadams9869 Жыл бұрын
Dude that first fall was definitely not a practice! The dude didn't have a helmet on,he tripped, you wouldn't be tied to the top with that much slack, the guy rappelling had the 'guides' rope drag across his face and no he didn't have a grigri. His hand was above the device..... that was a straight up accident.