Betafpv Pavo20 Review Part 2 and Critical Setup Step

[@stevehaynes2857]

Just ordered this frame. I have the Flywoo HD aio 1-2s board and the Walksnail Avatar 1s lit hd vtx to go in it. Really looking forward to putting it together. Thank for a great presentation, very inspiring.

[@flyingpudding]

@@stevehaynes2857 Thanks for watching and your comment!

[@ОлексійНечуєв]

Thank you very much for the review and useful tips. I watched and relaxed, watching your wonderful footage.

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you very much for watching, please stay tuned for the next one!

[@BMFPV]

Great review! Got mine on order, the extra power and flight time will be a breath of fresh air after the Mobula 8 O3. Love the Mob 8 but they really should have made it 3s

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and happy flying!

[@Ice-FaceMedia]

Awesome video my friend!!...great quad

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you very much for watching and your comment!

[@VinchysVisuals]

Nice review and awesome flying! I have been waiting for this second part. I have both the Pavo Pico v1 & V2 and the Pavo20. I liked the Pavo20 better (for obvious reasons) than the Pico, I am a newbie and learned to fly acro on the Pavo20!

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you for watching! It is indeed a better choice for beginners. Happy flying!

[@sullytrny]

I built mine upside down so the antenna sticks straight up behind the cam. 1km D250hz @ 1w. Ws v2 TX & ws GPS..... I'm tempted to port/wire the rx over to another uart and try to get i2c working on uart 3's pads. I've had luck before but this is my first 405... But the next will be a mamba 722-i2c w/1203 7000 and 2in AVAN tri-blades, 550-660 mh (inav ready/learning) The little vifly beeper fits perfect in the frt duct area, the destructions suck so i removed the driver ic and hot wired it. 4 screws and 2 connectors and my camera module swaps in minutes. Thanks for all the great videos and information........

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and your sharing! I would use WS too if I don't need 4k stablized footage. Fyi UART3 on the betafpv AIO is occupied by the built-in ELRS. Maybe the Pavo25 is a better candidate for your project?

[@longfish8892]

와우 드디어 업로드 되었네요 Thank you~

[@flyingpudding]

응, 알아. 모터가 배송되는 데 시간이 걸립니다. 기다려주시고 시청해주셔서 정말 감사드립니다!

[@acurachan]

Always professional.

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you for watching and support!

[@zulkarnainlubis7587]

4:56 Thanks for your video. I'm new to this fpv world, just try it at simulator. Can you explain what 2 indicator at upper left mean? And 8,9V with arrow pointing up at bottom screen? I'm using simulator with no goggle so not many i can see at my screen. Thanks for sharing

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and your comment! I assume that you were referring to the RSSI and LQ readings. RSSI tell us the strength of the signal at a given time LQ indicates the Link Quality of the connection between the radio and the receiver. In general, LQ is more useful. 100 being the best while you don't want it to dip below 60. The arrow next to the voltage is the home arrow. It's only active when the goggles is connected to a compatible DJI drone e.g. Avata. Hope that answered your questions, welcome to the FPV world and happy flying!

[@larsheller5049]

I have the Tattu 3s 450mAh and 650mAh. I am happy with the 450mAh because it fits better below the frame and I can feel the difference in rools and loops.

[@flyingpudding]

Yeah, 3s 450 is in the ideal weight range for the Pavo20. I am quite surprise that it flies quite decent on heavier packs, the extra load seems to help wind penetration and add stability.

[@Todd_G_FPV]

I got the 650 because I wasn't sure but good to know I need the 450mah, wife will be happy lol I'm just glad to get another drone in the air! Took me a few hours getting it put together and set up how I wanted but it's going now! First mistake I made was not realizing the rc2 and v2 goggles don't work on vista units, then got a free taranis qx7 and I bought a elrs module but the remote was missing the chip and I had no idea what to put on the new one I had so I returned the elrs module and got a radiomaster pocket! Now I'm flying!

[@flyingpudding]

@@Todd_G_FPV congrats on the new quad in your fleet! FYI vista with the latest firmware does work with the RC2 controller. It still goes very far with the RC2 but there is no LQ to keep track of.

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@flyingpudding yes but then it removes the ability to use v2 goggles and I don't own the goggkes 2 or integra, also u can use the remote without a set of goggles too. That's ok tho I got a radiomaster pocket and it fits in my bag perfectly with my fpv combo and so does the small pavo20, got a few packs in today and that little guy rips! Once I get well used to manual/acro I will remove the prop guard so it's more stable but we are far from that lol

[@WhitCoburn]

Good video, thanks for sharing. I wish you showed the Betaflight setup. My drone is built but I can't fly it because I can't figure out Betaflight...

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching! Did you get the whole quad (minus thr O3) from betafpv? It should have been setup already if so. In case you have a different flight controller, you may refer to this general betaflight guide for the complete setup oscarliang.com/betaflight-firmware-setup/

[@jcsuarez73]

Which gloogles FPv are compatible with the DJI O3 air unit? Or only DJi Google FPV?

[@flyingpudding]

@@jcsuarez73 DJI FPV Googles v2, Googles 2, and Integra are compatible with O3.

[@vadimus2007]

Looks like it's a good option to use DJI FPV controller instead. My video link usually drops way before control link.

[@flyingpudding]

I would recommend to use a separate radio link if possible. I also used the DJI RC2 controller before and it served me well. The catch is that the quad would failsafe at the same time when the video link is interrupted if the O3 sbus is used. With a separate rc link, you could raise the throttle when you lose the video, hoping to regain visual as the quad reaches a higher altitude.

[@vadimus2007]

@@flyingpudding Yeah, I've watched a deep dive video explaining how it works. For now I set failsafe to angle with slight ascend so there is a chance for control to restore. Also, if at some point I decide to use that built-in ELRS I'll solder a proper antenna, either with connector or directly to the PCB.

[@flyingpudding]

@@vadimus2007 Even the stock antenna can go incredible distances with proper equipment and setup ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6KQc5J8l55_aM0

Hi Great video. When you use the 2s battery, do you think it has the mobility of a Pavo Pico? Is it to use the 2s battery indoors and the 3s outdoors or do you not see the need for a slower battery to have better mobility indoors?

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you for watching! Pavo20 with the stock 8,500kv motors and bi-blade props on 2s hovers at 50ish% throttle - which is OK for indoor cinematic and not racing. On the other hand, the Pico is more agile with the same 2s lipo. As I mentioned in the video, the Pico is still king for indoor applications and the Pavo20 is better if you want to fly in both indoor and outdoor - just feed it with a good 450-500mah 3s pack.

Thank you for your answer, it is very helpful and I will go for the Pavo20 thanks @@flyingpudding

a question bro, I'm new in this FPV world and I wanted to know what is the best remote control and the best googgles for Pavo20

[@flyingpudding]

@ Assuming you will be using the DJI O3 air unit, just pick up a DJI Goggles 2 or Integra. Concerning transmitters (TX), there are tons of great ELRS TXs out there. Take a good read here and decide: oscarliang.com/radio-transmitter/ Happy hunting and happy flying, remember to post your progress here!

[@diedadarma3423]

hey... your pavo20 you set on Prop out ? can you sent make tutorial to riverside this propeller from prop in to prop out? thanks you 🙏🙂

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and your comments! For ducted quads it doesnt really matter whether it's prop in or out. I set up mine only because all my quads are prop out and it is a habit thing. Is there a particular reason why you want to make yours prop out?

[@enricsoh]

Have been searching all over youtube trying to decide what to get and how to start FPVing. Found your amazing channel subscribed and used the link and just ordered the Pavo20. Any idea if there is a group I can join that can help me get started. I live near Lougheed Mall and know most of the places in your video. Thanks for all the great videos.

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you very much for watching and your support! Please dm me on IG or FB and let's chat ☺️ FB: flying pudding IG: flying.pudding

[@Todd_G_FPV]

Did u get a 03 or vista unit for it? Do u have remote and goggles?

[@flyingpudding]

@@Todd_G_FPV Hi Todd thanks for watching. I use O3 air unit on all my Pavos including the Pavo20. Goggles is DJI Goggles 2 and the radio is X-lite with Betafpv SuperG Nano TX, which will be covered in the upcoming video.

Hi bro!! Which battery do you think is best? Tattu 550mAh 46g or some GNB 650mAh 49g? Taking into account that it is a decent weight and has a good duration of at least 5 minutes per battery?

[@flyingpudding]

As the weight difference is so little between the two, I would compare the max current draw (or C rating) of both and pick the better one.

[@DanO-FPV]

Hi Mate, thank you for your really detailed and nice review. I have one question: It seems that alot of people have issues with the FOV of the O3 / the frame is visible witin the bottom corners. Do you have the same issue / how did you fix it? or did you stabi the fotage and cut out the areas? :) Thank you very much

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you very much for watching! As covered in Part One of the review, the lower frame is indeed visible at negative or low tilt angles when flying. It will be cropped off when using Gyroflow during stablization (with default crop ratio), unless you have negative tilt. Happy flying!

[@Downchill]

What do you exactly mean by pulling out the antenna? And do you fly the Tbs version of the Pavo 20? I love this video. It absolutely gave me a smile. Liked and subscribed.

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you very much for watching and your comment! I meant the antenna needs to be exposed from the fuselage especially the AIO board itself. To minimize weight, I am using the built-in ELRS receiver on the AIO board, so no I am not using crossfire. Happy flying and stay tuned!

[@Downchill]

@@flyingpuddingthank you!! Do you have instagram? :)

[@Viseo3dp]

And the video rage is much better with stock antenna for O3 and vista

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching! Yes, range may be better with the stock O3 antenna. On the other hand, I was able to get over 1km with the dipoles (in a couple previous videos) which should be more than enough for micro quads. Weight saving and aerodynamic are more important 😉

[@Spacecazeka]

So you were losing TX/remote signal and it was causing it to drop at distances? I'm new to this, but i got ELRS 1w boxer transmitter, is this similar to what you are usng? Will i have this issue at like 300m or whatever? .... because supposedly it can go up to 70km for long range airplanes !!(?)

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and your comment! The premature signal degration in the video was caused by incorrect rx antenna position on the quad, regardless of the tx or tx module. What's important is to pull the rx antenna AWAY from the AIO. It is best to have it stuck outside of the fuselage if possible. In addition, 70km can only be achieved with ideal weather condition, dedicated rx (not the built-in AIO), proper antenna position (completely outside of the air frame), low interference environment...etc. I am using a betafpv SuperG Nano Tx module with dual antenna fyi, and even my another single antenna Nano Tx module at 100mw could reach over 1km with the built-in ELRS rx in my another video, with the correct rx antenna position: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYe9gIB8Z8-shJIsi=ij8Mph0m7Wb6aUkx Hope the above helped, happy flying!

[@Viseo3dp]

great review

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and your comment!

[@batyrenko]

I bought one. It's a very nice FPV drone. But I burned 3 motors, not sure what I do wrong. Maybe because I arm the drone in horizon mode but drone not in horizont position? Motors start working very hard to get it leveled.

[@flyingpudding]

Omg i am sorry to hear. Are the motors burnt or the ESCs? I don't believe flying in stabilized mode would cause issue but not disarming or cutting throttle after a crash may fry either or both.

[@batyrenko]

@@flyingpudding ESC is working, fortunately. I started arming in Acro mode so it doesn't try to level the drone, motors are not running like crazy once I arm. I slowly increase the throttle then turn on horizon mode. I also put protection, to do not arm if angle is more than 30⁰.

[@flyingpudding]

@@batyrenko ah so it is flying again, phew! You may want to practice flying in acro with simulator first. It is a lot cheaper than crashing the real thing.

[@helititan74]

great video as always. which one do you prefer, pico pavo or 20?

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching! I would say the Pavo20 for longer flight time and wind penetration. However, pico is still king for indoor and discreetness.

[@helititan74]

@@flyingpudding Thanks what is your flight time with 650 lipos ? thanks

[@flyingpudding]

@@helititan74 in the video it was around 5min with 3.5v per cell left.

[@JakeBullit123]

good info.

[@flyingpudding]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JohnnyQuest007]

Thoughts on the CNHL 450 3S battery paired with the Pavo20? (39grams)

[@flyingpudding]

It should do as long as the discharge rate is true. I tried to get stuff from CHNL too but the ones I want aren't available in Canada.

[@JohnnyQuest007]

@@flyingpudding, thanks. I picked up some 450 and 550 3S. I wonder if the 550 will scream a bit less, like the 650 in your test flight. They have them on sale via CNHL right now.

[@flyingpudding]

@@JohnnyQuest007 Thanks for the info! Happy flying and please share your result :)

[@ko1n570]

its on default pid and rates ?

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching! Yes, it is on the defaults.

[@oculararcade]

Flight Time on 3S 650?

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching! 3.5v per cell at 5:00 mark per my test in the video.

[@macaronpompom88]

❤❤❤

[@flyingpudding]

Thank you for watching!

[@Todd_G_FPV]

What packet rate do u use?

[@flyingpudding]

I use 250hz.

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@@flyingpudding that's what I had mine set to and seems fine around the house so far lol

[@flyingpudding]

@@Todd_G_FPV Yes, antenna position matters more than other factors.

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@flyingpudding mone comes out the bottom and I think towards the front I'd have to look at it lol

[@Todd_G_FPV]

@flyingpudding can u tell me how to get my osd fixed on dji v2 goggles in betaflight? When I add stuff it doesn't show up where I place it in betaflight

[@Quad_Father]

Bro…. Why don’t you talk?

[@flyingpudding]

Thanks for watching and the question. The main reason is time constraint while there are already plenty of channels doing that. I want to focus on creating useful and interesting content while I may add VO in the future when time allows or I find a way to do it efficiently.

[@ug8903]

What did you do to it so you don't see the prop guards on the bottom corners?

[@flyingpudding]

You may see how I mounted the camera in Part One of my Pavo20 build. The key is to make the camera sits higher rather than lower. Thanks for watching and your comment!