I DON'T want to be TRADITIONALLY PUBLISHED anymore (& why I want to CONTINUE self-publishing)

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Bethany Atazadeh - YA Fantasy Author

Bethany Atazadeh - YA Fantasy Author

Күн бұрын

Here's why I want to continue self-publishing my books in the future and no longer want to be traditionally published at all!
Mentioned in the video:
◦ Pros & Cons of Self-Publishing: • HOW HARD IS SELF-PUBLI...
◦ Author Money Playlist: • Author Money $$
◦ Book Marketing Playlist: • MARKETING TIPS
◦ How much $ I Made from Books in 2021: • how much money I made ...
◦ Total Income $ from Books my first 4 years publishing: • TOTAL INCOME $ from bo...
◦ How much $ Did I Spend to Publish my Fantasy Series: • SELF PUBLISHING COSTS:...
◦ How I spent only $120 to Publish The Secret Gift: • I Spent Just $120 to S...
◦ Did I Make My Money Back on the Collector's Edition: • How much MONEY I made ...
◦ Did I Make My Money Back on The Enchanted Crown: • Do you make your MONEY...
◦ Can Writing Make You Rich and Famous: • Can writing a book mak...
◦ Publishing on a Budget: • HOW TO PUBLISH A BOOK ...
◦ Author Budget: • 5 Tips for Author Budg...
◦ How to Do a Book Signing Event / Get Your Book in Bookstores: • How to Do a Book Signi...
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📚 T H E S T O L E N K I N G D O M S E R I E S :
www.bethanyatazadeh.com/thest...
◦ COLLECTOR'S EDITION / BOX SET: amzn.to/34A9wFw
◦ THE SECRET GIFT: books2read.com/thesecretgift
◦ THE STOLEN KINGDOM: books2read.com/thestolenkingdom
◦ THE JINNI KEY: books2read.com/thejinnikey
◦ THE CURSED HUNTER: books2read.com/thecursedhunter
◦ THE ENCHANTED CROWN: books2read.com/theenchantedcrown
◦ The Stolen Kingdom Audiobook: www.audible.com/pd/B088FVQNJK...
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📖 B E C O M E A P A T R O N :
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/ bethanyatazadeh
💻 M Y A U T H O R N E W S L E T T E R :
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❤️ M Y M E R C H :
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📚 M Y S E L F P U B L I S H I N G C O U R S E :
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📒 M Y O T H E R W O R K :
◦ EVALENE'S NUMBER: amzn.to/3sZPlKi
◦ PEARL'S NUMBER: amzn.to/3Kyp63Q
◦ MARKETING FOR AUTHORS SERIES: amzn.to/3pTrbPG
◦ THE CONFIDENT CORGI: amzn.to/36aJd9m
◦ Novel Planner Notebook (mug cover): amzn.to/3hYnzYo
◦ Novel Planner Notebook (laptop cover): amzn.to/3KwvW9Z
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❤️ C O M P A N I E S I L O V E & A M A N A F F I L I A T E F O R :
◦ PUBLISH AND THRIVE: heartbreathings.teachable.com...
◦ WRITING STICKERS & the book launch planner (10% off discount code is BETHANY10): stoneridgestickers.com/?ref=Q...
◦ EPIDEMIC SOUND (where I get my music! If you'd like to try it for a month, using this link gives me a free month! Thank you in advance!): www.epidemicsound.com/referra...
◦ DRAFT2DIGITAL: www.draft2digital.com/bethany...
💬 L E T ' S C O N N E C T 💬
Website | www.bethanyatazadeh.com
Instagram | / authorbethanyatazadeh
KZbin | / bethanyatazadeh
Patreon | / bethanyatazadeh
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Thanks for watching!
❤️ Bethany
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@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
In responding to some comments, a few of you have made a really good point that it's not even the politics themselves, because we've technically always had politics... what I think really bothers me when I get to the heart of it is the WAY people are treating each other as they discuss these things. That's what has really taken a nasty turn. (I'm looking at you TWITTER!! Lol... but seriously...) Also just to clarify, I still think trad pub has a TON of amazing aspects and fully support it, this is just my personal reasons why I prefer self-publishing haha!
@presleybaldwin3756
@presleybaldwin3756 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Bethany; I'm a relatively long-term viewer and I just want to say thank you for all the video's you make, they are entertaining and educational and I appreciate it.
@steviep6955
@steviep6955 2 жыл бұрын
I dig what you say about genre-mixing. People literally get angry at me, the author, for not limiting my book to one specific, easily-defined genre AND what my characters do and say.
@steviep6955
@steviep6955 2 жыл бұрын
Where, how, do you find beta readers? Thx
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
@@steviep6955 I have a whole playlist about beta readers with five videos - go check it out!
@steviep6955
@steviep6955 2 жыл бұрын
@@BethanyAtazadeh I did… am… will!
@garnellwallace5594
@garnellwallace5594 2 жыл бұрын
This was inspiring. I can't afford the luxury of traditional publishing because writing is my full-time job. If I had to wait for that big break, I would starve. I did query years ago when I had a regular job and that broke my spirit. I took control of my career, and while it's not yet where I want it to be, I'm living my dream.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you’re living your dream! That’s the goal! 🙌🏻☺️
@carriecross8549
@carriecross8549 2 жыл бұрын
I have been writing for years. In 2021 I sat down and wrote four books. That was my entire goal for the year. To write a series and feel like I had lived my dream. At the start of this year I started to query. It was a nightmare. It was a rejection after a rejection. I even took a course on querying before I started. I worked so hard on the query. After several months of rejections with no real feedback that was helpful. (Just "The book seems so good! I am just not looking for this kind of story right now." or "Not for me! Keep sending it out!") I decided to take your course and look more into self-publishing. My fiancé was worried that self-publishing would cost us a lot of start up money we would never get back. That since I am less "business" minded that we would fail. And yet he believes in my work itself. In taking your course I've come to realize that I am smart, I can learn the business side of things and I really want the freedom to self-publish. I feel like that is the path for me. It would be easy to say "Well, sure traditional publishing rejected you." But, it is not that. It is that I believe in my writing, I have others in my life who have actually read my work and feel the same thing. I believe that I can support my book and make it marketable best myself. I was always leaning toward self-publishing. I was just afraid of it. Now, I am working toward my first published book! Woo!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest comment I've read on this video yet! So encouraged to hear that I've been able to help and heck yes you can absolutely publish your books and do an amazing job of it without spending crazy money! I'm excited to hear what you think of my video coming out next week with some author money tips that might also give you confidence about that, but in the meantime, keep rocking it!
@authorvivian.o.2387
@authorvivian.o.2387 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm rooting for you!
@positivelypurposeful8522
@positivelypurposeful8522 2 жыл бұрын
Yay so inspiring! I’m self-publishing my first book on March 29th and I am so so excited. That being said, your comment made me smile! I wish you all of the best in your book. I know you can do it :)
@kingphatty578
@kingphatty578 2 жыл бұрын
That is very unfortunate, but absolutely wonderful! That now you’re turning it around and going to self publish! Best regards!✨🎉
@vegasrenie
@vegasrenie 2 жыл бұрын
It **is** all about believing in your own writing! Anything else is just extra. The early readers of my first draft loved my book! That was when I decided not to waste my time trying to query trad because I had already been reading horror stories here (on KZbin) about good books that were rejected because “it’s just NOT what we’re looking for,” etc. I truly believe in the quality of my writing and the message of my book, and I am happy to say that this channel, and about four others, have been key in getting me to where I am 100% satisfied with the end product. Not only that, but the idea of doing a series hadn’t even occurred to me before I started learning here at KZbin University. And now, I have four books in skeleton format, and hope to have two of them written and published by the end of the year. My newest and first I hope to have published by the end of April/early May. And that’s another thing about self publishing. “Deadlines” are just a concept! 😉
@freddy902
@freddy902 2 жыл бұрын
I also don't like reading books that are saturated with modern politics and social issues, as you said I just want to escape into a world that isn't the one I'm currently living in. I do enjoy reading books like Harry potter and Hunger games. While they do have politics in their stories it is not the main underlying themes and narrative.
@danebirbhaha7520
@danebirbhaha7520 3 ай бұрын
Politics isn't the main underlying theme in the hunger games???
@SparexoMe
@SparexoMe 3 ай бұрын
@@danebirbhaha7520 I didn't grasp onto the underlying theme of the Hunger Games when I was younger. Before I even knew what politics was and I'm sure it was the same for a lot of the readers. I'm 22 how and just recently found out that was the case But now our world is so politically focused it's almost impossible not to notice, we're a lot more politically focused than before with all of social media and whatnot.
@ellanorevannin4147
@ellanorevannin4147 2 жыл бұрын
We see politics in books, and movies. As they try to push agendas. It bothers me. I just want a good story! That's all. I want to self publish because of this as well. I don't want to be told what to write. That I should put a certain agenda in my book. I want to write what I am passionate about. What I love Not what the world wants.
@JoLovesToRead
@JoLovesToRead Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I started writing at 14, but stopped at about 23 because I was discouraged after being rejected from a traditional publisher (I'm now 27). I never felt like my book series fit into any genre and hated answering the marketing question of where my book fit within the market. I know to be successful I would need to market, but I honestly just want to write books and not stress so much about sales. My goal anymore is not to create a livelihood from being an author, but just to enjoy the craft of writing again and to hold my book in my hands. If I make any money that's just a bonus. I also want control over my book too since I came up with it and WROTE the damn thing haha I dislike that trad publishers have all the control and I get it, they're investing their money, but if I'm not worried about making money, I think I'm going to really enjoy self publishing. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!
@EuSeiT
@EuSeiT 2 жыл бұрын
You are SO right about the genre problem. If you don't conform with agents' idea of "genre" you're done. They have their set little rules and no book can exist outside them. Simply not done!
@brookdwyer4554
@brookdwyer4554 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I find it so interesting that people I know who openly say they don’t read have an opinion about me taking the self publishing path. For me self publishing is somewhere I don’t have to change myself to fit it.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! That's a great way to look at it too!
@girlwiththemagicpen
@girlwiththemagicpen 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Changing one's self to fit in is just....ugh. I feel I am leaning more toward self-publishing because I don't like being bound by unnecessary rules etc.
@stevenwomack9574
@stevenwomack9574 2 жыл бұрын
Bethany, everything you said was spot on. I've been traditionally pubbed since 1990, but took a long break starting about eight years ago. I retired from teaching and went back to writing full time and was shocked at how tough it's become to even get an agent to answer a query. Deals are harder than ever to come by, the business is tougher than ever. Politics, as you said, is a powerful negative force in publishing. I had indie-pubbed my backlist years ago but it was languishing. I decided to bring my new book out indie and to devote a serious effort--in terms of money and time and energy--and it's worked out better than I could have hoped. Have sold more books, and am about to make more money than I ever have. My only issue is that I'm an old guy and came of age when "self-publishing" had a real stigma to it (remember Vantage Press?). Self-pubbing today is not anything like self-pubbing in the 60s and 70s. Self-pubbing (or as I prefer it "Indie Pubbing") is a POWERFUL force in publishing today. It is literally the wave of the future... And you're a great inspiration!
@JagHiroshi
@JagHiroshi 6 ай бұрын
After completing my first novel, I looked at traditional publishing and felt that it was heavily influenced with politics (mainly identity). Like you, I see writing and the arts in general as providing an escape from the day to day trials of modern living - rather than just another platform for activism. It's made me question the value of the industry, although I'm sure there are still some great people at agencies and publishers.
@SterchiHillsTalks
@SterchiHillsTalks Жыл бұрын
I love how you mention the Christian elements. That's inspiring you base your story off of the Christian Scriptures. I greatly respect your convictions.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@illumine77
@illumine77 2 жыл бұрын
I am a trad pubbed YA author who is now looking to go indie for all of the reasons you just mentioned. I definitely fall on the liberal end of the political spectrum, as I am a lesbian married to my wife for over 20 years now. But I, too, am completely turned off by the book-Twitter vitriol. I’ve all but abandoned social media entirely over it, and Twitter used to be my happy place. But it’s not just that for me. It’s also that publishers don’t develop authors like they used to. It’s either you’re a bestseller out of the gate, or you’re cut loose. And with the editor/publicity turnover at publishing houses, relationships just aren’t what they used to be. As you said, there’s nothing wrong with going trad if you can get a deal. But it’s also okay to realize when trad is not for you, and in my case, having been through it with a Big 5 (or is it 4 now?) publisher, I can safely say that, at least as it stands now, trad pub is not for me.
@shenellmaye11
@shenellmaye11 2 жыл бұрын
I was being pursued by a trad pun. They were excited about my book but the agent wanted me to build up my audience which I was working on anyway. My mentor said why would you build everything and then make less . Trad pub is requiring authors to do the same amount of work that indie authors do with less control over the project. They use to say that if you aren't trad pub then you are not successful. That is no longer the case a number of authors do well in indie pub. Many even 6figures or work full-time as authors.
@tumbleweedjoe
@tumbleweedjoe 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! Self-publishing my first book soon. Now I have to watch ALL of your videos.
@maxvoroshilov3207
@maxvoroshilov3207 10 ай бұрын
I thought the same! She is so inspiring!
@k.d.r.3980
@k.d.r.3980 2 жыл бұрын
I was on the traditional pub route for so long, even had an agent and now I've been on the indie route, releasing my debut YA this summer. I love it so much! This whole process has been a lot of work, but I've enjoyed every step. I agree with you about the politics. It seems very toxic right now. I also think, as a black woman, writing characters of color, trad pub will choose a few BIPOC authors to highlight and say, "see we have diversity." And then they say the market is saturated, but it's not. I can't stand being on Twitter because its so toxic. I think there is room for all of us but trad pub makes me feel very much that if we, as an author, or our books don't fit into this one category then we won't sell. It's a weird duality of wanting us to be niche and broad at the same time. Great video. This is what I have been feeling as well!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I really love how you phrased that, I think that's a really eloquent way of describing the heart of the issues!
@currangill430
@currangill430 Жыл бұрын
New follower! This video was great. I've been telling my aunt the same thing. She finally is backing me as a self published author! I should show her this video.
@hc2622
@hc2622 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head about the books being traditionally churned out these days. “Evil” is the root of it for sure. I’ve been fretting over the traditional publishing processes and atmosphere, thinking that the content I want to put my heart into will be rejected in favor of something more… politically advantageous, shall we say. You definitely are inspiring me!
@marygracewriting
@marygracewriting Жыл бұрын
Really good points across the board. Really proud of you for bringing up that last point, its not easy but its true. I am feeling the same way mostly. Really good episode Bethany.
@l.e.brentwood3137
@l.e.brentwood3137 6 ай бұрын
I have not felt this level of relief in a long time. You are my Shero! I am encouraged and in tears... this entire video!!! Keep sharing. You are an amazing human❤
@esthermarieandujar
@esthermarieandujar 2 жыл бұрын
As someone whose goal is to be a hybrid author and I have my fingers on the pulse of both trad and indie I’ll like to share a few things. Trad pub authors aren’t employees of publishers. Trad pub authors are contractors. Covers, interior design, swag, art work, marketing around debut and after, etc is going to vary between publisher and what was agreed on contract. Those variables could be a source of anxiety for some and a relief for others. Right now the trad industry is extremely burn out. It has been showing signa of burnout since the beginning of 2021. To me all the agents, editors, assistants, etc leaving is not surprising. We have seen this in other industries. Right now the air is heavy, people are frustrated and worried cause a lot has change and trad pub is notoriously slow to catch up to changes. Now for the political point, I don’t know how to go about it because you were vague about, which I imagine you were cause you really didn’t wanted to overpower your video. But here is where I think how we have curated our social medias and who we have around in the industry could influence our perception of how political things are. To me it looks like more and more people are working to make the industry more inclusive for bipoc & lgbtq+ professionals (authors, agents, editors, executive positions, etc) and I’m all for that. And I’m all for stopping the use of harmful stereotypes. If cultural, ethnicity and human decency is political then that’s my political take.
@7Maya11
@7Maya11 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I only discovered you yesterday, when I took to KZbin to look for some advice. I watched maybe only three of your videos until now but with this video right here you earned my subscription
@TheStephanieAnnFoster
@TheStephanieAnnFoster Жыл бұрын
This video resonated with me, and I think that you're spot-on about the image-mongering and cultural stabbiness that comes with most traditional commercial ventures and with the world of social media. I am just starting out in self-publishing and have always loved your informative videos, but this has been my favorite. Thank you!
@ISOShakespeare
@ISOShakespeare 2 жыл бұрын
I am with you 100% Bethany! I'm sick of the vitriol towards authors who may have opposing opinions but who write amazing books. It's virtual book burning. Thank you for being brave evnough to voice your opinion.
@maxvoroshilov3207
@maxvoroshilov3207 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your informative and inspiring video! I feel like I need to see all your videos on book marketing.
@niravelniflheim1858
@niravelniflheim1858 Ай бұрын
Thanks Bethany! This was just the pep talk I needed. ( I'm currently waiting for a proof copy of my first self-published book to arrive from the printer. That's going to be really fun when it arrives. )
@burritohero7
@burritohero7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration. I am just starting my writing/publishing journey, and I am going to go the self-publishing route. I agree with all the things you said in this video. Also, the book I want to write doesn't fit the traditional style or categories that traditional publishers are looking for. There is definitely a lot to learn, but I am up for the challenge, and I am excited to get my book out into the world.
@makennazornes
@makennazornes 2 жыл бұрын
So interesting that this video came out today. I just got an email newsletter today from a trad published author talking about if traditionally publishing is worth it…in her words: “Today, many authors in my circle are seeing smaller advances, less marketing support, slower communication, and fewer publicity opportunities than ever before. . . Personally, I am finding it harder and harder to remain published. And I'm experiencing fewer joyful moments in the career than I did in the past. . . If you love writing and want to see your book on a shelf-specifically in schools, libraries, and bookstores across the country-then yes. It's still worth trying. It will always be worth trying if this is your main goal. But if you want to make a living off writing novels? If you want to have control over the final product (how the book looks) or how it's promoted (marketing/publicity efforts)? If you want a publisher to support and grow your writing career? Then no. I'm not quite sure it's worth it if these are your goals.” Just some highlights from the email. When I was younger I used to definitely want to be traditionally published, but indie publishing has changed so much that now I’m excited about going that route. Your videos have helped me make the decision that that is what I want to do. And I agree with everything you said in your video 💯. I didn’t realize that Evalene’s Number was Christian sci-fi! I’ll have to read that one soon! (I’m finishing up The Enchanted Crown right now.)
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
No way! That timing is kinda amazing, I love hearing that confirmation of everything I’ve been thinking, thank you for sharing! I’m so glad this video was helpful and yayyy so happy you like the stolen kingdom series! 🥰
@JQMurrell
@JQMurrell Жыл бұрын
I love you Bethany! I want to give you the biggest hug because i so enjoy your presence here on KZbin, and you are so right about needing to raise awareness about HOPE!!!!! it seriously needs to be a movement!!! Lol. Just like in your books. I'm so uplifted to hear you choose your own way of writing to choose your own message. You'll always attract the right readers by choosing you first! God would never align us any other way, bc we just have to choose "the way" of the light of the heart within, to become our own Christ within and win!!!!!!!! 😊
@ericamartin398
@ericamartin398 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, there. I'm a traditionally-published author and I want to clear up some things. 1. Control (covers). I had so much control over my covers, and this is the case for most of my traditionally-published friends. Also, money. In kid-lit, we definitely make a loooooot of money.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Erica! That's so interesting to hear! I have heard a wide spectrum, so I'm guessing it probably depends on the publisher and the team you're working with? But heck to the yes, love hearing that kid-lit does well! That's awesome! :D
@AngelineProductions
@AngelineProductions 6 ай бұрын
I feel like kid-lit (and even YA) is whole different ballgame than books written for an adult audience.
@MetalGildarts
@MetalGildarts 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the candidness Bethany. Makes me wanna go the indie route even more.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Aww yay! Thank you so much!
@MetalGildarts
@MetalGildarts 2 жыл бұрын
@@BethanyAtazadeh 😄
@sweethoney81
@sweethoney81 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breath of fresh air, Bethany.😊
@wmStubblefield
@wmStubblefield 2 жыл бұрын
Bethany, thank you for this honest, refreshing video. I am currently self-publishing two books, one of which will be released in April, and the other later in the year. You are absolutely right about the changes in the publishing industry. About fifteen years ago, I tried to find a publisher for a detective novel. Although I could not get an agent, I received a number of lovely, personal letters from agents telling me why they chose not to represent me, giving advice, and encouraging me to keep writing. With my latest book, I also looked for an agent and the kindness I'd found fifteen years ago was totally missing. A few sent me form letters, but most had the "no reply means no" mentality. That and the recent $15 million advance given to Brittany (the Virginia Woolf of our age) Spears were enough to turn me off to the publishing world. Thank you for encouraging me in what has been a difficult transition. One question. You mentioned something about "Miss Rona" being indicative of changes in the publishing industry. I did not get the reference. Could you enlighten me?
@authorzahra
@authorzahra 2 жыл бұрын
Corona virus
@wmStubblefield
@wmStubblefield 2 жыл бұрын
@@authorzahra Thanks!
@jmdesantis
@jmdesantis 2 жыл бұрын
So, I'm both traditionally and self published. Most traditionally stuff was small press, both writing and art. And though I love prose (a few stories published and a novella), most of my work has been in comics. But I too find myself more and more going the self-published route (or through my publishing co: Dark Fire Press). I had one bad experience with a traditional publisher where I was never paid for my work, with no marketing done either. And that seems to be the trend: work, cover their expenses, promote yourself, and maybe you'll make some money. It's great for prestige, sure, but unless you do really well it won't pay the bills (but can be rolled into other work where you do get paid better). As for the politics, I can say in comics, yes, the big publishers push it more than indies, but there are many indies who are doing it too. I'm not against metaphor or relevancy, but not the overt stuff. But over all, I feel like if the publisher wants more control, there should be more "perks" for the author. It seems a bit one-sided other than being attached to a big company (which does have it's perks--just indirect). Anyway. Sorry for the long comment. In the end, I like the control and access I have to my work (yes, you're also limited with what you can do when under contract). I just wish I could get better at the promotional end of things. It's a big part of what holds me back, I think. Cheers for the video!
@jmirvinggbooks
@jmirvinggbooks 2 жыл бұрын
This just confirms to me even the more that I made the right choice. I have almost eight books that I have self-published and it's great! I love the control! But one day I would love to have some(or just one)of my books picked up traditionally. Even so at the end of the day, self-publishing is where it's at! 🙌😁
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad it was encouraging! And yeah trad pub has a lot of great elements, I’m not permanently against it if the landscape ever changed haha!
@jmirvinggbooks
@jmirvinggbooks 2 жыл бұрын
@@BethanyAtazadeh Right! Maybe we can create our own service where it's not like that! All the pros of indie publishing with the exposure of trad pub. 😁🙌
@freedomthroughspirit
@freedomthroughspirit Жыл бұрын
Excellent points - you are validating for me why self-publishing is 100% more appealing - I'm all about freedom. And I don't mind doing the work. 🤩Great video; I hadn't even thought of the political and sensitivity angle until you mentioned this and I read these comments. SO true! And worrying about the "hook" is a thing (from reading other agent videos). I *will* worry about that as a writer, but I don't need to worry about that from an agent/publishing house/limited narrow market viewpoint. Etc. Freedom is the name of the game. 💫💜😃
@brotheramartey777
@brotheramartey777 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, and now I'll be self-publishing!
@johnschaaf197
@johnschaaf197 Ай бұрын
You were ahead of the curve!
@AuthorRMRose
@AuthorRMRose 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You are a breath of fresh air. I agree with your points 100%. All the best.
@TheAuthorCouple
@TheAuthorCouple Жыл бұрын
Your videos were so helpful when we were trying to figure out what route we want to take. I would never look back. We didn’t pursue traditional publishing and are so happy we went the indie route. We agree with everything you said. For instance we’d never be able to get the phenomenal editors or award winning cover designer we had if we went traditional route. And the most important was to keep movie rights, trad pub takes most of the rights away. The only thing that is hard is stigma but once you prove yourself and get amazing reviews etc it gets easier.
@dienercontent6872
@dienercontent6872 2 жыл бұрын
One big thing about self-publishing is that you know you’re working for someone (yourself) who believes in you/is willing to take a chance on you.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I love that! So true!
@heartlandauthor
@heartlandauthor 2 жыл бұрын
Bethany, I watched the entire video, and I have a couple of thoughts: - You made a mention or two of cover design in your video. When I designed my own cover for my first book, I was not in the right frame of mind (in fact, I was suffering from severe depression and having suicidal thoughts while writing and designing the cover for my first book, although I'm taking an antidepressant now, which has helped me greatly), and the cover I designed is a contender for the worst book cover in human history. - Regarding your remarks about politics, some of the books that I'm currently writing are political nonfiction works that I intend to self-publish, although not all of my soon-to-be-written books are political in nature. I've never liked the practice of traditional publishing houses releasing excerpts of political nonfiction books pre-release. Also, my political views are very left-of-center, and I make no attempt whatsoever to hide my political views on one of my two Twitter accounts, but I've never liked the idea of bossing creative people in regards to how they should create their works.
@rogerroger9952
@rogerroger9952 Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that I got rejected when I was querying because not only was that book pretty bad, I also came to realise that I'd much prefer to have full control. There was a part of me that felt embarrassed by actually considering self-publishing as an option. And there was a younger version of me who really wanted people to read my books and hadn't made peace with just writing for the sake of it. But my main hang-up, I think, was that I felt like I was being unreasonable by wanting full control. Like I was being egotistical and snobby by wanting to control my own cover and deadlines and the literal contents of my stories. But I'm really glad that I've watched this because even having already decided to self-publish, I hadn't considered that my debut book could have a longer shelf-life this way, which was a concern of mine. And I had no idea that I could have books in bookstores as an indie author, so that's uber exciting! As for the politics angle, I don't know how trad publishing is at all anymore, but I can definitely empathise with this distaste for how vitriolic people seem to have become, even without having any social media accounts myself. I assume you're much closer to being politically center or right-wing than my communist ass, but I totally understand some of you're points. I'm trans, and I've had to go stealth (not telling people or participating in pride or anything) because of the climate and the people shunning me, appropriating my struggles, literally calling me transphobic, using slurs as their "pronouns" as if that's okay, etc. And I remember when I was querying I saw agents who said things like, "I'd love to hear from trans authors," so I led with the fact that I'm trans, but looking back on it now... It makes me feel so unhuman and disrespected that I felt I had to come out. I wish I hadn't. And based on contemporary LGBT media, It's clear that they don't want books with characters who so happen to be trans with a completely unrelated or fantastical plot. And God forbid I make all of my characters bi and don't make it a focus. God forbid I let them be happy. They want to read about LGBT suffering in gruesome and uncomfortable detail, but y'know I'm not too keen on writing about that when I have to live through it on the daily. They want to pity us and only see us as archetypes and tokens, and it makes me a bit sick to think about. Anyway, my point is this is a good video
@authorj.l.slipak9526
@authorj.l.slipak9526 2 жыл бұрын
The world is angry. People are angry and tired of the way the world is going. It's tangible and infectious, sadly. There's a feeling that something big is about to happen and it's that anticipation that's tainting everything else. Thanks for the vid!
@VictoriaVictoria-w3x
@VictoriaVictoria-w3x 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your views. Your videos are so helpful.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 21 күн бұрын
You are so welcome!
@DawnBramwell-w6s
@DawnBramwell-w6s Ай бұрын
Thank you so much - this has been truly inspiring. My writing also is mixed genre for one thing; fantasy/ supernatural/ spiritual.
@kengause9259
@kengause9259 2 жыл бұрын
I have published four nonfiction books via the traditional route. Good experience, but no money unless you have a broad audience or are writing on a topic that catches lighting in a bottle. I also did not like being tied to a word count. Tried to go the traditional route when I began writing fiction and got nowhere. Query letters never returned. No agent, forget about it. I agree with your point about mixed genres being a challenge. Also agree that the traditional publishing paradigm has shifted. Doors closed tight. Self-publishing is the way to go. Just make sure you do your due diligence. So, I found a company to handle the nuts and bolts to getting my book published (website, PR, editing, cover design, copyright, ISBN, etc...). We'll see how it goes. I liked the experience and control. But, if it doesn't pay off, I will go the full-on DIY route for my next self-published book. Looks terrifying.
@realisticequestrian8229
@realisticequestrian8229 Жыл бұрын
Control being #1 for you made me nod so hard I cricked my neck 😂 I want a say on my cover, my release date, my timeline of writing etc Absolutely agree with you.
@iyannasmith4238
@iyannasmith4238 10 ай бұрын
You always give me Hope! Ughh, no matter the procrastination of self doubt i'm going to get my books out there. It's been 10years for me and for as long as Ive been talking about it people think i'm a joke (sad face) I really just want to hold a completed copy in my hands and say I finally did it.
@aging1847
@aging1847 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, this was extremely useful although I had made the decision last week to self publish. It's nice to to hear from a successful author and her own personal experience. For me, the issue was time as I wasn't gonna wait for this book to be published past this year. Secondly was the loss of control and that I would have to do the marketing anyway. As to your comment about the politics, my upcoming book is similar to that of Neale Donald Walsch (Conversations with God) writes whereby our only reason for being here is to come to experience and express love in all its forms starting with self love. We live in this world of the law of opposites whereby there will always be something that is the opposite of us. But its our job to see the beauty in that contrast and use it to decide how we want to act and be in this lifetime around. Blessings. The illusion is that things that seemingly are the opposite are actually the same. Like hot and cold water. Both are considered water but we need to experience that hot weter is in order in know there is cold water. Or head and tails are two sides of the same coin. thanks again.
@morleywritesbooks
@morleywritesbooks 2 жыл бұрын
in querying I saw so much promotion on hot button politics, that it's all the agent wants in their inbox. So 100% feel this topic. I wanted my book marketed, not me and my personal beliefs. And i'm so happy I turned the other way toward self-pub :) I've found people hyped about the story who partnered with me as artists, narrators, digital management (cause I suck), and having that passion is more than I could've hoped for
@abigailmwrites2976
@abigailmwrites2976 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I chose to go the self pub route two years ago...I had been querying in the YA market and even like, four years ago, I could see the change. The shift that went from wanting a good novel to: you're required to check off these politically motivated boxes before we'll even take a second look at your book. It wasn't something I wanted to get into, the utter toxicity if you didnt please people a certain way. I pray that self pub NEVER gets so toxic, and I have high hopes since it truly is such a diverse reader and writer pool (truly diverse, not forced "diversity" to think only one certain way). Anyways, all that to say, I totally am there with you! I just released my first book on Tuesday and I'm already extremely happy with my decision.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
That's so interesting to hear! Yeah it has become toxic, that's a good word for the changes. I don't think self-pub will, because authors are able to listen to readers directly and write the stories they love and that their tribe loves, without the pressures in trad pub to please everyone. p.s. happy release, that's so exciting!
@Shadowblaster222
@Shadowblaster222 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the pros of self-publishing. I don't want to give up creative control over my story, cover, and everything else. I researched traditional publishing after I was writing screenplays and entering screenplay contests, because I was also writing short stories. After I lost out on the contests, I started writing novels and never looked back. All I ever wanted to do was tell stories, no matter what platform it ended up being.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
That's so cool to hear! Keep rocking it!
@ovidbowie3929
@ovidbowie3929 Жыл бұрын
OMG Thank you for speaking to the politics in trad publishing rn! So many of my friends won’t get a once over because of their group identity. It’s psycho.
@ancientdreamers
@ancientdreamers 6 ай бұрын
And a year later, all of that got even worse! Yikes.
@ovidbowie3929
@ovidbowie3929 6 ай бұрын
@@ancientdreamersPREACH. I'm just doing it indie rn and when I can scale I'll give the great writers a chance. It's terrible right now. Worse than in academia with all its scandals. Hang in there, friend
@jelly882
@jelly882 2 жыл бұрын
I can't stand all the sensitivity reader mess. I understand where they are coming from, but then how can one or two sensitive readers decide on what is so-called inclusive or not? I don't even share the same value and the same everything with my friends that look like me, of the same race, and we've been schoolmates and friends for more than ten years. Unless trad pub thinks all people should think one way and feel offended by the same thing base on their physical attributes, sensitivity reader is a dumb idea. I can never do that. I'm not offended by anything. lol. Brave for you to voice your opinion, people these days can get... riled up easily.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point! Yeah one sensitivity reader could easily disagree with another, since belonging to any particular people group doesn't automatically mean we all become a "hive mind" with that group haha... so I can definitely see what you're saying. I feel like the sensitivity line has almost moved and ... yeah. I don't really have the words for it lol, but people get offended WAY too easily these days and I don't have time for that lol
@gloriadalessandro5000
@gloriadalessandro5000 2 ай бұрын
This inspired me even more, and gave me hope for my own books! Honestly, trad pub just.. yk when you see tons of books on the library shelves and they all look and feel the same? The cover, the blurb, the story itself. That's cuz they're forced to basically write *identical* things (and I feel your want for a nice cover, those in trad pub as of now just...ew.) Plus i hate how to be published you also have to include idk smut for example. No thanks😭?? Dang, definitely a no for me (if things don't change, which I'm basically hopeless for) Thank you so much again for this video, it really helped me gain hope and trust in my own abilities! Looking forward to read your books which will arrive soon hehe🖤
@jamiedanae2550
@jamiedanae2550 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more with your thoughts on traditional publishing. And it’s not just politics in books, it seems like you have to share the same politics to be successful or even be considered in the trad pub world right now, it’s disheartening. Thank you for having the courage to make this video ❤️
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to agree with you on that as well, sadly. It is hard to see, but hopefully like most things, it won't last forever. I'm so glad you liked the video!
@MadgazelleFilms
@MadgazelleFilms 2 жыл бұрын
You are not alone. I feel the same about what has “shifted” and to be honest, I don’t want any part of that world. 🙅🏼‍♀️
@bonitahighley7922
@bonitahighley7922 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bethany, I have a question. i am a christian writer of fiction mystery in one of my books. Is it better to have at least two books sequel in a series, than just one? I can split my one book into two .....I prefer it to be one book,....does it really matter?
@NmDPlm31
@NmDPlm31 2 жыл бұрын
People can get pissed off with your political mention as a reason to not go trad pub but you are absolutely spot on. Trad Pub has gone way over the edge of the cliff with gatekeeping and political virtue signaling that it is a major turn off. Fantasy and Sci Fi in particular have had a mega-blowup over the past 10 years and it has really fractured the genre. I’m currently looking to self-pub my first book, having been turned off by the trad pub community. I mean, it got downright nasty - to the point where even major editors were slamming authors of differing political views. How can you ever expect to be treated fairly based on the work going forward? Currently there is one trad pub house I would consider and happily work with if they ever wanted to do so, but I have no faith in 99% of the houses anymore. I spent a good bit of time going over the pros and cons with my Mrs and pretty much every other one of your points were exactly what pushed the pivot point for me (us) to forego trad pub and go rogue, as it were. I want that personal control over my own vision and to know I don’t ever have to cater my style to try to fit the political whims of someone in NY. And no, my work is not politically based. But I literally know a writer who had his contract cancelled by a trad pub house because he refused to change one word in his manuscript. One word. Well, no thanks. I’m not interested in that level of usurpation of my creativity. So hopefully we’ll see Book 1 of my fantasy series out here in the next couple months! Nice vid, Bethany.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
@stephenmymomtoldmenottoput1459
@stephenmymomtoldmenottoput1459 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that traditional publishing has always been into gate keeping. The fact that most big name publishers will not talk to you at all without a literary agent is evidence enough of this. In truth they're just unnecessary middle men meant to weed out people that they don't want in their club.
@lindy7149
@lindy7149 2 жыл бұрын
This video resonates with me so much. I have been recently drawn to self-publishing, despite the fact that my dream was always to publish traditionally. I finished my first book four or five years ago and sent query letters to eight agents before realizing my book would be hard sell. I started over with a new story I thought would be more 'acceptable', and finished it last year. I sent exactly one query letter, and then just... stopped. For some reason, my heart just wasn't in it anymore. I was having trouble coming up with a list of agents who were a good fit for both me and my book; I'd check out their twitter accounts and find them swearing about people who didn't share their political beliefs, or jumping on whatever the popular bandwagon was at the time. I started worrying that they'd expect my writing to conform to their worldviews, and that if I couldn't fill out the appropriate checklists for inclusivity and 'important topic of the day' that I'd be rejected. More than anything, the publishing landscape seems to have transformed to one that is politically motivated, instead of one that is interested in telling good stories. I could be completely wrong about this, but the passion and enthusiasm I had for traditional publishing fizzled out over night, and self-publishing--which I had always thought poorly of--began to look like an increasingly appealing option. I love the idea of being my own boss, of keeping creative control over my work, and of being the judge of whether or not there is an audience for my books. To be honest, I'm not sure I'd be any good at marketing, and I'm terrified that if I self-publish, my dreams of making a living off of my writing will die a sad, pathetic death. Even so, I'm not sure if I'll ever regain my passion for traditional publishing, and I can't shake the feeling that maybe self-publishing was meant for me. I'm not sure what I'll decide, but watching this video felt like listening to my heart!
@AuthorSamLui
@AuthorSamLui 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I just wrote a sports fiction, but a lot of stuff written is incidents I have seen first hand. I rather have creative control and make less money. I don't want the publisher to change my content, that I seen first hand.
@stefanielozinski
@stefanielozinski 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree 1000%. I am not willing to compromise my faith and values for anybody, especially a publisher. So. I’d rather just not get involved :)
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I completely relate to that!
@andyontheinternet5777
@andyontheinternet5777 Ай бұрын
I just started querying, and you are 100% right about trad pub being obsessed with politics, especially divisive identity politics.
@lselley1980
@lselley1980 10 ай бұрын
My experience on submission confirms everything you said. Especially the politics. There's a time and place, and I'm sick of it seeping into absolutely everything. I ended up going with a small indie publisher who offered me much higher profits and control than any imprint that's in the big 5. I also heard again and again from big 5 editors, "we love this, but we can't sell it." I have no doubt that this is because imprints are chasing trends and agendas over everything else, because of their leadership and investors. Also let's not forget that big 5 editors are often on near-minimum wage while execs pull in millions. I don't want to support that, personally.
@momofmany8117
@momofmany8117 2 жыл бұрын
In 2020, I self-published two books. It was a lot of work, but it was satisfying. I spent more than I made though. I'm not good at marketing. I finished a manuscript last week. I can't afford to self-publish and not make any money. It's not about the money. I do want to get my stories to people. I am going to get it edited and try the traditional route. And if it doesn't work out, all I need to do is a cover. I loved being in control of everything when I self-published. If I could market my own book it wouldn't be a problem at all. I don't consider myself an author because I went the self-publishing route. Even though I worked hard to write my stories and get them published. I just need confidence, and not listen to the voice of those who think Indie writers are second rate. On a side note: You sound like me. I like to give hope through my stories. I subscribed to your channel a while back but haven't watched your videos. But I definitely agree with you, and will be watching your videos. Also, I'm not going to query any agents that are forcefully pushing their politics or agendas. It's more now than it was years ago when I looked at different agents.
@JQMurrell
@JQMurrell Жыл бұрын
So let me reiterate this for you Bethany lol. What I heard through to the end of your video... And that is you no longer want to be traditionally published because you are already, and could always become (just like anyone else), a magical and amazing success all on your own. Without riding on someone else's coattails!😊 You just needed to figure that out on your own, with your own process and your own reasons.😊😊😊❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@pillsber
@pillsber Жыл бұрын
You are 100% spot on as far as the politics. I also think tradional published means nothing as far as quality of story or worse, writing quality. Great channel.
@williamroach1762
@williamroach1762 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to query to Image Comics my book. I have noticed that more often than not that at least 70 percent publishing companies are wanting more liberal based books. It's crazy.
@PlayfullyConnectedGames
@PlayfullyConnectedGames 2 жыл бұрын
So thankful for you and your videos! 💜 Yes, love all the flexibility of timelines in self-publishing!
@JSmith-yd4ys
@JSmith-yd4ys Жыл бұрын
Great video! :)
@moriahsaylorchannel
@moriahsaylorchannel 2 жыл бұрын
This video gave me, hope! Thanks for the info
@aquadaughters4957
@aquadaughters4957 Жыл бұрын
Had to be said on the politics in trad pub. Thank you!
@pablodc8317
@pablodc8317 9 ай бұрын
This is a great video. I'd love to know plain and simple, do you think the traditional platform would have given you more: - shelf exposure - exclusive location exposure - regional or global reach - revenue ? Would be great. I know self publishing yields more or higher fees, but if you end up getting low exposure.... it's a flop.
@jpzeigler223
@jpzeigler223 8 ай бұрын
I don't think I'd do well with trad pub either, for the reasons you mentioned, but also because I'm just so nonconformist. I want to do things my way. Like you said, "control." I have a vision for my writing, and I resist hearing how it "has" to be. Great example about the hybrid of genres.
@TheVioletMagic29
@TheVioletMagic29 4 ай бұрын
You're not wrong about the politics dominating the arts more, especially the last 5 years
@ericarowanarts
@ericarowanarts 2 жыл бұрын
I was SHOCKED by the title of this video! You were very open about wanting to do hybrid pub so I wasn't expecting this. But you make a lot of good points. I've heard some self-pub authors say trad publishers have approached them but they turned them down because the terms of the contract were poo-poo compared to what they can do on their own. I used to think I'd want to do hybrid but because of channels like yours and others being so transparent about costs and profits, I feel like a deal with a trad publisher would have to be EXTRAORDINARY for me to give up all the benefits of self pub. Great video! Great points! Can't wait to see what else you got cooking!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I know, it's a big shift from last year! But yeah I'd never say never, because maybe a contract would be amazing someday and maybe it'd be nice not to do everything... BUT I do kinda love dabbling in a bit of everything haha...I'm so glad you liked the video!
@anival9576
@anival9576 2 жыл бұрын
Traditional publishers have an industry that's changing underneath them. They used to be the gatekeepers, but that role is fading... now they have to find another way to make themselves worth the money they shave off a book royalty... I think they're still trying to figure that out. I fully approve of gate-crashing though. What I expect will happen eventually is that successful indie authors will band together to form new publishing houses with more flexible, practical rules and slowly the trad pub industry will regenerate (just because so many people want gatekeepers). It's going to look a lot different though, and I have been surprised at how much I've enjoyed self-publishing, even if I've only dipped my toe in so far.
@anival9576
@anival9576 2 жыл бұрын
@@BethanyAtazadeh In reference to my other comment, have you ever thought of starting your own publishing house? You love the marketing aspect and you're already doing the author training/offering resources thing. Would you ever market other people's books... like down the line? Just curious.
@babygremlins
@babygremlins 7 күн бұрын
No you hit the nail on the head Bethany you're exactly right entertainment and books and fantasy books and fun movie shows should not remind us of the depressing situation that the state of our country is in we read these books and watch these shows in order to escape from that garbage for just a little while and you have recognized how important it is to be able to do that in your providing that escaped thank you
@mevia_mastropietro_author
@mevia_mastropietro_author 2 жыл бұрын
I am querying now. Trad pub is rough. People are burnt out and leaving at all levels, which has that trickle down effect of slowing down publishing, requesting fewer books, taking fewer chances. It's very hard. I got one request so far and that simple request felt amazing and I know it's very likely nothing will even come of it. But I keep trying because it isn't in my mental capacity or budget to take on all the responsibility of self-pub and do justice to my story. I don't read a lot of popular books, so I can't speak to that political part of the problem but I can see it probably does exist how you say. I do love, however, to learn about self-pub from author tubers like you because it amazes me all that you do! You have beautiful books and an engaged audience that I hope to find someday myself. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge so willingly!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Did anything I say surprise you? Are there other elements of trad pub / self pub that would affect your decision?
@miaramck6746
@miaramck6746 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard morality clauses have become standard in trad pub. As in, if you say anything against the morals of your publisher you can lose your book deal 😬
@PaulaScardamalia
@PaulaScardamalia 2 жыл бұрын
No, nothing surprised me, and even though I've been querying and meeting with agents, I am more and more tempted to once again try the self-publish route. I did it back in 2006 with a nonfiction book, before print on demand, and still have cartons of books sitting in the garage loft. So, you can see why I am still on the fence about it. Great video.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
@@miaramck6746 Whaaaaat??? No way!! That's absolutely wild! Because they could cancel for literally anything!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulaScardamalia That's so interesting to hear! Yeah print on demand is much better for indies than having to buy stock in bulk, I would encourage you that you can do really well without spending too much or needing to buy your own stock these days!
@vanhopecomedy
@vanhopecomedy 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of good insight, thank you for sharing.
@maxvoroshilov3207
@maxvoroshilov3207 10 ай бұрын
Which books marketing videos would you recommend to start with?
@xelakram
@xelakram 2 ай бұрын
Inspiring!
@SunLuxSkincare
@SunLuxSkincare 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Bethany, I know we are in completely different industries, you are an author and I formulate skincare products, but everything you’re saying is so true in business in general. I am a wife and mom of 3 kids, and I launched my skincare line last year and people In my industry wonder why I don’t crowd fund and try to get in Sephora…and I say the same thing every time. I like to keep my business “small & controlled”….once you take other peoples money, you work for them. To get and stay in Sephora you have to do what ever they tell you to do, so the brand no longer is yours in a way. So keeping my business small & controlled I can be a wife and mother first, and a skincare Formulator aka business owner second! Your doing everything right, keep it up, I love watching your videos! And congrats on Zion, what a sweet baby!!! 💛
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
That's so interesting to hear that, and now that you say it, I can absolutely see what you're talking about! So disappointing that big businesses have these issues and don't allow for personal expression to shine through, but I guess that's why this is an age of entreprenuership haha! Thank you so much!
@timothybowman1438
@timothybowman1438 Жыл бұрын
Love the comment about politics. I’m in the entertainment industry, and I hate how politics has affected it
@arellysritchieauthor
@arellysritchieauthor 2 жыл бұрын
Control and decision-making regarding covers are one of the reasons why I am still doubting choosing between traditional vs self-publishing, And seriously when big names like Bella Andre chose to self-publish than traditional publishing, that said a lot! And you're right, the atmosphere in the book world has become really toxic!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good point! Obviously there are pros and cons to both, but I gotta say the control is awesome. :) And toxic is a very good word for what's happened in trad pub.
@vegasrenie
@vegasrenie 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video! I am a “woman of a certain age” and I just don’t want to take the time to deal with publishing houses. Because I’m older, I am pickier and want to be in control of every aspect of my own publishing. I’m not even looking at the money structure so much, as I want to be satisfied with the product I release and put my name on. If it doesn’t do well then it’s on me. If it does extraordinarily, then that’s on me, too. I have been discouraged from doing this, but because I tend to have OCD tendencies (not OCD, but I have my moments) I want to be 100% satisfied with the product. Thanks, Bethany! I love your channel!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
That's totally fair! I can absolutely understand that mindset, and I hope you will be encouraged by my videos that you can absolutely rock self-publishing! :) Thank you so much!
@Lupinicus1664
@Lupinicus1664 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I have just 'indie-published' my first book. Basically I learned what I should do, employed professionals for those areas I could not do myself: cover design and editing and my book is in bricks and mortar shops. I suspect self-publishing has acquired its dubious reputation for some because you do come across self-published titles where not enough care has been taken and so the end product does not look comparable to trad-published titles. In pretty much all respects writing is similar to music and nobody really questions indie-publishing of music nowadays. I see traditional publishers as acting like gatekeepers and self-styled arbiters of taste and quality when really it should be the readers that determine whether a writer is worth reading.
@heathersueboo
@heathersueboo 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you on the politics topic. Since when was that the be all and end all? It's ridiculous
@davidmackie3497
@davidmackie3497 6 ай бұрын
I don't know if you'll see this, but I have a few questions. I work FT, and in my spare time have been writing a trilogy that turned into a 5-book cycle. I've never tried to get any published because I didn't have time for both writing and publishing. But now I'm nearly done, and also close to retirement. So the questions are: Should I release the entire story (5 full-length books) at once, or one book at a time? And would traditional publishers even want a 5-book cycle? Would readers? Personally, I don't like to start a book series until it's done. (I've been burned a few times with series that never got finished.) But maybe the anticipation for each new book would hype the series??? p.s. Happily, I don't need to earn money from writing. But like any self-respecting author, I want my stuff to be read (and liked) by as many people as possible. p.p.s. Advice from anyone is welcome.
@aedynbrooks6900
@aedynbrooks6900 2 жыл бұрын
Why I chose not to trad publish was when I learned that one of the big four hired a self-published author (very well known and a NYT best seller) to write three books for them. I've gone to several writer's conferences and to hear editors (and agents) act sincere, asking you to submit to them. They say, "I have a busy travel schedule, but you should hear back from us within six months." SIX MONTHS!?! Just to receive a canned letter saying they're not interested because they already have that idea in their schedule? Of course they have it on their schedule (booked three years out) because they hired an author to write that story they want. The publishing house gave this author the names, places, the trope, etc., and said, "Write this by x date." And she did and it did great because she already had a huge following of loyal fans who loved her writing. THAT's what the big four are doing to indie authors. They're leveraging THEIR market. Their connections. Their bang for the buck. So, who's working for who these days? Sounds like they're mooching off of our successes--not to mention that they also reprint out-of-print books from other well-known authors instead of taking a risk on you--the hopeful dreamer wanting so desperately to see your book published by said big publishing house. They're looking for the diamond in the rough. They're looking for the next Nora Roberts, Steven King, or whomever you think is the greatest writer out there. They're really not interested in you, newbie author, who has your hopes and dreams tied up in one manuscript. The best advice I can give you is to learn how to write an amazing novel, research and find an editor who will help you hone your work into perfection (and yes, you may cry crocodile tears over their comments), but in the end, you will be so proud of your release date because YOU did it all. Totally agree 100%, Bethany! You deserve the life you create, but don't wait on someone else to fulfill your dreams. Take the bull by the horns and learn this business--and Bethany has a ton of videos to help you get there. Start watching!!!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I hadn't heard that before, but I'm not surprised. It is a business after all, so we might as well learn the business side and make it work for us! :)
@mical7582
@mical7582 2 жыл бұрын
📚 How do you get your book reviewed or even noticed by reviewers on booktube, and booktok? I am not on tiktok or facebook.
@billgretchenstincan3696
@billgretchenstincan3696 2 жыл бұрын
Great job in expressing your views. Thank you.
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@JQMurrell
@JQMurrell Жыл бұрын
I would love to ask you more about how you handled the book signing projects in Barnes& Noble and other such book sales opportunities in person. And also how you particularly go about getting books on their shelves. I have personally been into speak with a manager before at Barnes& Noble about their publishing process and how they choose books for those things. So I have a little rapport with them already on that account, and know that from their base feedback there's some sort of regional person who will order the books for different store locations and make those decisions based on numbers of followers you already have, and whether or not it's already sold another platforms, and like you said, there's other stipulations like the returnable books that go along with it. But I was just wondering if there's any other feedback that you personally have about being in that particular position with your books being on physical store shelves and being at physical live events, versus the online and digital side of the realm? I also have not yet asked a person there how they go about distributing more nationally onto their shelves, or if that's just something that happens naturally as you gain favor at certain locations? Or in certain regions where they feel like you'll be a good match for their locale and the types of books that are already present at each individual bookstore. I'm sure there's a lot of decision making that goes into those things.
@BitchspotBlog
@BitchspotBlog Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said. I had a Big 5 contract on the table from Tor and I turned it down because I wanted to maintain control. I wanted to be able to write the books that I wanted to write, not what the publisher thought I ought to be writing because that's what they focus on. I do a lot better self-pubbing than I likely would have traditionally publishing. Even my agent, back in the day, told me I would be miserable being trad published. I'm too much an individual for that. Plus, you're right, a lot of modern trad publishing is a mess. I have friends who are trad published and they complain non-stop about all of the hoops they have to jump through, all of the things they can't write, all of the things they have to redo because their publishers get cold feet, etc. I don't have to care about that. I write what I want and apparently, there are people out there who like it.
@skincarecookbook
@skincarecookbook 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! This is so helpful.
@MandiLynnWrites
@MandiLynnWrites 2 жыл бұрын
Ah! 100% agree with everything you said in this video!
@sydneyo
@sydneyo 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, yeah I definitely see what you mean about the trad pub industry. I'm not involved in that area at all, but just kinda looking from the outside in I totally agree with what you're saying. Thank you for another awesome video!!
@BethanyAtazadeh
@BethanyAtazadeh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you liked it!
@KeyofM55
@KeyofM55 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. I'm an 18 yr old avid reader and aspiring author. When I was younger, Barnes and Noble was paradise. Now when I walk in, there's virtually nothing to choose from. Everything is political, meaning the books focus less on the story they want to tell and more on the viewpoint they want to shove in your face every time you turn the page. I have nothing against a good moral, but there's a difference between a theme and propaganda. My sister and I are looking to self-publish because we purposefully left our book clean and (frankly) less woke, among other reasons. I personally don't want to sacrifice our story for PC-ness (lol). Great video!
@theintrovertedaspie9095
@theintrovertedaspie9095 Жыл бұрын
For me the biggest win with self publishing is more creative control and and more royalties.
@randyspears9827
@randyspears9827 11 ай бұрын
I've been self-publishing since 2012 and have 19 books published. It took me five years to figure things out and that's when I made some decent money for being a part-time writer. (I have a day job.) I love controlling my writing and publishing. To cut my costs, I learn to design my own covers and even narrated and released my first audiobook this year. The marketing is not my favorite and since I've not done it well, my sales/earnings have dropped off dramatically. Still, I plan to continue to self-publish.
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