Bethesda BLAMES Fans for Starfield Backlash | New Low Gaslighting Fans Over Negative Steam Reviews

[@GriffinGaming]

Oh shit, accidentally published this instead of leaving unlisted for tomorrow. Help your boy out with a like for the unintentional double upload

[@Trompolocobruh]

Thank you for treating us Griffin

[@Maxximum1488]

Yeah I was confused on this double upload uncharacteristic behavior from you

[@will2777]

Thank you Lord Griffin! 👍 BTW, DSP approved our comments from last night so here's hoping he takes advantage of our push

[@younggarde4797]

yOU'RE So lame.. I mean for bloody real.. you play gs and talk lol

[@younggarde4797]

You will play what you have been told to play, even if it's a bloody porn game. It's not like you really have a bloody choice, lmao.

[@unimpressedvenom2543]

The irony of using copy pasted responses to respond to reviews complaining about copy pasted planets is absolutely insane.

[@PowerfulRift]

Based 😂

[@silverblade357]

Holy shit! That's awesome! 😂

[@RayBo]

hahahahaha, Perfect! 😆👍

[@dambawwe]

their todward sense didn't see that coming

[@bandawin18]

Truly a Bethesda moment 🍷🗿

[@TheMC1102]

"Am I the only one who understands the complexity of this ambitious gaming masterpiece? This game isn't boring. YOU're boring!" - Todd Howard, probably.

[@SniperKing-O]

Billy and Mandy reference. x3

[@Soup-man]

"YOU'RE SO FUCKING BORING!" -Heelvsbabyface

[@Gentou76]

@@Soup-man He wasn't wrong.

[@aytony4090]

​@@Soup-manPronoun Man wins in the end

[@convergence1point]

The guy everyone thought was a clown, got the last laugh in the end…good Old’e Sweet Baby…

[@SolidRaiden2655]

"You can shoot" - Bethesda 2023

[@GriffinGaming]

You can Loot

[@megamax898]

you can shoot, you can loot, you can even lick the boot.

[@DaggerPrince]

@@GriffinGaming the worst part is when they said "You can fly". when you basically literally cant lol. youre in your ship in space for like 3 seconds, go into the menu, fast travel and land. cuz otherwise youd just have to fly for hours upon hours to get anywhere

[@inyourgranmaass3605]

​@megamax898 😂😂😂 good one mate

[@aerus3446]

@@DaggerPrince I thought planets were Jpegs in Starfield until you explicitly open the map to "fast travel" into a smoke and mirror square land that is not even actually a planet?

[@Delta169]

“Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are.” - Bethesda, basically

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

Repeat after me, gents: It is NEVER the fans' faults.

[@younggarde4797]

You will play what you have been told to play, even if it's a bloody porn game. It's not like you really have a bloody choice, lmao.

[@thedoomslayer5863]

Based name.

[@YaaSalty...0_o]

If you could message back customer support I would tell them you need to start paying me for debugging your game. I'm a paying customer not a developer

[@emarskineel]

It's your fault

[@Orange_Swirl]

​@emarskineel You're right. I'm very sorry. I should have developed Starfield to have less bugs and published the game in a better state. Oh wait, I can't. Because I didn't develop and publish the game to begin with.

[@DukeofNukem98]

The astronauts stepping foot on the moon was a monumental milestone for mankind. Starfield is a freaking video game

[@aerus3446]

I am sure that theres more interesting stuff going on in the surface and depths of the moon, more interesting than all of Starfield, and maybe even all of Sci-Fi. Because Reality always surpasses Fiction.

[@BoleDaPole]

It's like if a game about flying planes flopped and the devs responded with; " Wilbur and Orville Wright weren't bored when they flew the Wright Flyer!" Or a ww2 game " our boys weren't bored when they stormed the beaches at Normandy!"

[@KneppaH]

They even had vehicles to drive around with while trying to stay alive. In 1971!! 52 Years ago!

[@TheBadderman]

Sure they did.😂😂😂

[@Somewhat-Sinister]

It's not just ANY video game! It's bland Bethesda RPG #5!

[@Krhys1]

It's almost as if the entire game was written and designed by AI - wouldn't put it past Bethesda to have done this.

[@SapeHallward]

MF's probably already turned Todd into an AI

[@BoleDaPole]

This games script was written in the HR department not the writers room.

[@AbstractM0use]

Most of the voice acting is bland, too. Almost all of the female NPC's have the same dialect and snarky attitudes.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@AbstractM0use same thing in the trailer

[@the_jingo]

An AI would’ve write a better game ngl

[@rogerfurlong1535]

I've put a stupid amount of time into Skyrim, but I'm not in any rush to play Starfield.

[@Ayana_Mitsuiro]

Don't bother playing Boringfield.. Stick with Skyrim

[@Mr.Canuck]

...or ES6.

[@xKnightGuy]

When a game does terrible it's always the gamers fault. Obviously we need to get our acts together and realize our mistakes.

[@carebearkj4320]

The worst part is that it didn’t do terrible. It’s a top seller of 2023, and while the reception is still mixed, it’s not bad either. All they had to from here is shut the hell up and improve the game.

[@BenD0v3r32]

Just like with modern movies.

[@kmdreacts]

I mean, technically, to a rich corporate worker/owner, it is... We (not me) keep convincing ourselves that This time it'll be good, and purchase on day 1 or pre-order, rather than wait a month or 3 for real reviews and news of qol updates and more. I haven't purchased/pre-ordered a game on day 1 since State of Decay 2 2018. Shid, I played RDR2 and AC Origins 1st time in 2021.

[@BoleDaPole]

These darn stupid gaymers just don't understand the greatness of star slop. It's just too good for thier empty minds to comprehend.

[@dychostarr]

@@kmdreacts We are rewarded for patience and saving our money for a cheaper discount. They get mad at that, and try to put more content behind pre-order as if it further validates patience with only FOMO. Currently trying to finish Yakuza 7 and it's amazing since 8 is around the corner. Bought that on sale and have a physical disc. I am legit rewarded for not buying even great games day 1. That one article that showed how many more people are waiting for sales SHOULD have proved that we are being trained by no one but them that buying day 1 is a mistake. It's wild and you know what? F it, let's enjoy ourselves on our terms not theirs.

[@abicrystalwing1543]

Our lord, Godd Howard is never wrong. If the fans are at fault, then are at fault. Help our deity by buying Starfield and the 13th anniversary edition of Skyrim

[@CoolSs]

A proof that lord Gabe is far stronger deity. He exposed the snake oils salesman for the fraud he is. By letting people speak their mind. Down with the maker of lies todd howard.

[@convergence1point]

Cant wait for Starfield Microwave edition…lmao

[@voodooshark92]

Not really difficult, Bethesda succumbed to the same problems a lot of developers have. Political influence and crony corporates. Fallout 4 was the space of an ocean and the depth of a puddle (probably butchered that), but I still squeezed ~3000 hours out of it because it was a fun sandbox and modders were passionate about it; similar thing applies to Skyrim. Starfield, I played for ~3 hours, saw the politics, saw the watered down fallout 4 gameplay, saw the loading screens on a modern pc, saw unstable fps between 30-60 on a 3080 in 4K, saw ESG hires yelling at me, and when I finally saw the bare naked sprawling planets... I was done. Fallout 76 had more activities and things to do at launch.

[@TheMythOfTheThickSix]

A mile wide and an inch deep

[@KwadDamyj]

At least Fallout 4 had a wide variety of side gigs like settlements/making automatrons/I could go on about both FO4's strengths and weaknesses. Also, it at least had memorable companions. Meanwhile I have heard nothing about what Starfield does that is better than other space games.

[@_Cypher__]

Based take

[@GundamExiaDarkMatter]

That moon landing comparison has to be the biggest cope of modern history this isn't looking good for Bethesda PR if the people who made starfield are anything like this clown then that explains a lot and doesn't look good for the future.

[@KneppaH]

They even had vehicles to drive around with while trying to stay alive. In 1971!! 52 Years ago!

[@Marcustheseer]

i wouldnt target the "clowns"at bethesda i would do something about clowns spuwing unjust hate at this game,i played this game for a month straight and am stil regulerly playing it and 80% of the hate is just bullshit honestly.

[@LordFinkenstein]

​@@Marcustheseerseethe more.

[@mechanicpluto2430]

@@Marcustheseer"Well *I* PLAYED IT AND *I* FIND IT FUN!!!!! U ALL R JUST H8TRS!!!!111!1!!!"

[@blacksamurai76]

Ahhhh…the blame game again, really Bethesda? 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@beeeazy9818]

Sony wasn't as helpful as they could of been 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dychostarr]

@@beeeazy9818 ...I'll bite since no one mentioned Sony. Why does that matter? Anyone who blames people for not liking their game. Idc who does it, it's a bad look no matter who does it. So why did you mention Sony?

[@s3nate22]

You know the game's bad when you're publicly gaslighting this hard, two months after it's release no less.

[@tb1235]

​@alwhitney68It's an okay game, not bad. But it's objectively one of the worst BGS single player titles to have been released. BGS is going in the wrong direction and they clearly don't think they need to change a thing, this is a mentality coming from the very top in Todd Howard.

[@johndodo2062]

​@alwhitney68mediocre. That's the same as being bad when you have the resources Bethesda has

[@jacobross735]

@@tb1235it’s that ancient creation engine that’s holding them back. It actually blows my mind that they were apparently working on this game for a decade and never thought that maybe it was time to ditch the godawful engine. I remember it being dated and criticized in 2015 by a lot of reviewers. But now in 2023 it’s just pathetic and inexcusable. It’s pretty sad when a 20 years old game like HL2 has better gunplay and physics than this garbage lol

[@TheTha411]

It just flops -Todd Howard

[@MelbourneArchviz]

after being married for 25 years, the game feels like Wife Simulator 2.0, where you get given meaningless tasks by women for a lifetime of servitude. I got that at home no thank you.

[@TheBadderman]

She's not your woman, it's just your turn with her holes.

[@Ayana_Mitsuiro]

Boringness simulator, at least with the wife you can have fun sometimes 😂

[@TheBadderman]

@@Ayana_Mitsuiro once a month if you're lucky.

[@BETRvids]

The fun starts out as tri-weekly, then over time it becomes try weekly, and eventually ends at try weakly.

[@TheBadderman]

@@BETRvids she already got chad and Tyrone filling her up at work.

[@aceclover758]

“Honeymoon phase” More like buyers remorse and suckers

[@D4rkKn1ght311]

16X the salt from Todd Howard 😆

[@neonreagan6023]

Not even mods will save this game.

[@ivorynargie]

The best thing about this whole thing, is that a friend owes me 50 bucks because we made a bet that the game was gonna be absolute shit lol

[@convergence1point]

May they serve you well.

[@Iridium-77-g]

The second they said about "over a thousand planetzzz!!!" Crap I called it. No way to have that and be meaningful. They showed their hand clearly with that sentence alone.

[@Mr.Canuck]

Dont go and blow that $50 on ES6. 😅

[@ivorynargie]

@@Mr.Canuck im blowing that on mh6 100%

[@Thedog9]

Starfield feels like a game from 2009. I was expecting something that only a current gen console could pull off, instead it was an Xbox360 game

[@1beatcher]

It fealt like playing Fallout 3 imo

[@EternalNightingale]

Don’t disrespect fallout 3 like that

[@YawnYea]

Just think that Bethesda delayed releasing a new elder scrolls for midfield 😞

[@-pressxtostart-]

​@@sidekickspam7574😂

[@acev3521]

@@sidekickspam7574Avoved will be dogwater get dragons dogma II

[@JayDamaso78]

​@@acev3521dragons dogma 1 is overrated

[@aytony4090]

​@JayDamaso78 It is but the original vision for the game is impressive but was rushed and had half its content cut. The sequel seems to be changing that.

[@acev3521]

@@JayDamaso78Okay? Sequel will still destroy Awoved and probably ES6 too

[@AncestorEmpire1]

They’ve always been this way, and Microsoft over paid for them.

[@acev3521]

The ips alone were worth way more than 7 billion dollars they can always just shitcan these people if Microsoft wants to.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@acev3521 the key phrase: “if Microsoft wants to” And by today’s standards, I wouldn’t hold my breathe

[@TheMythOfTheThickSix]

@@AncestorEmpire1not really they will make there money back

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@TheMythOfTheThickSix companies that blame the fanbase, usually don’t make their money back.

[@sparkyspinz9897]

​@AncestorEmpireGaming I wouldn't either but it's possible. With Bethesda only putting out like 1 or 2 games a decade, it's gonna take them ages to make that investment back, even if each game sells well. I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see some spin off titles made by other Microsoft owned studios

[@ChinDogToshi]

It really sucks. I wish they'd stuck with 5 to 10 planets hand-crafted rather than procedurally generated 1,000+. Hoping Elder Scrolls 6 is better.

[@yomama3275-d4i]

It's unfortunate. Bethesda made some of the greatest games of all time like oblivion and morrowind. They have been on a downhill sense fallout 3 imo not money wise but quality wise. It was bound to catch up with them eventually. as much as I hated fallout 4 you could still have fun playing it.

[@Josephx5504]

Fallout 4 had really get environmental story telling which I like best from Bethesda games and that’s what really made it feel alive. Now it’s just so dead everything’s the same, you have to put 20 hours in starfield to find one unique encounter of environmental storytelling, and then you gotta play another 20 hours to find the next encounter. Doing that gets so boring. And god I swear I was the most excited fan for starfield since those 2016 leaks (I think 2016, I forget) and for starfield to be this bland really shattered a dream of mind. I wanted starfield to be this amazing space rpg where you can build a huge crew and have a voyage on your own spaceship and fly right across different planets seeing all the beauty it had to offer and have a great story which allowed you to build the world around you into a utopia of an space lovers dream

[@convergence1point]

Had a similar desire. Even got this game for friends. I feel like an absolute heel with this game. I have absolutely no desire to touch TES6 because how awful this game is.

[@slicedtopieces]

The shallowness criticism for Starfield is the same exact way I feel about Skyrim (and I never played F04 because I learned my lesson). FO3 (while it had it's own problems) was truly the last title I felt had more going for it than detracting which is rough because that game is 15 years old... _"It was bound to catch up with them eventually."_ I think Bethesda is coming to terms with the fact that Starfield won't be another 10 year cash cow like Skyrim. At the moment it looks like they're trying to pivot to paid mods for Skyrim and FO4 again. Not a good sign for a creative company. 😕

[@marshallbeck9101]

Oblivion and fallout 4 are the only Bethesda games I like

[@yomama3275-d4i]

@@marshallbeck9101 well I understand why some people don't like morrowind it kinda has a learning curve if your used to oblivion or Skyrim. There is a shit ton of text to read as well

[@shazmodeus2795]

"when the astronauts went to the moon there was nothing that and they weren't bored!" Well no s**t, they traveled 250,000 miles to a different celestial body in the harshest of conditions to explore something no person had ever explored before. Starfield players are sitting in their bedroom, playing a space game that's been done far better many times over.

[@The_Endless_Now]

With this, I find the notion that half of Starfield itself was written by AI *much more believable.* There are hundreds of these bot responses on the Steam Store page, so if anyone wants some free cringe (entertainment), you'll find it there

[@Matronammfly]

I couldn't even play the game I constantly had frame drops, stuttering dialogue, the game would crash way to often, and the NPC's would talk way before their mouths would even start moving. I refunded it almost immediately. And the sad part is this was all happening on the lowest settings; and I have a PC that is way more than capable to handle the game

[@slow9573]

They are reaching critical cringe levels

[@markus5237]

Two videos in a day. Bless you

[@GriffinGaming]

I promise it was an accident. Don’t get used to it lmao

[@OskyWasky]

Two videos in one day Griffin is really on the grind I guess pokey calling him a broke boy really got to him🤣GGG

[@GriffinGaming]

Gotta buy a new pallet of Ramen to make it through the winter

[@mr.critical5523]

The only way i can see this game getting a surge in players is if the modding scene is off the chain spectacular.

[@sparkyspinz9897]

That won't be anytime soon. The best mods out there often take years after release to come out. They don't even have the mod tools yet, and honestly idk how many modders will care to work on this game

[@smokingbarrels7019]

Starfield will never have the same modding scene as earlier games by Bethesda

[@CoolSs]

15:04 Because it's happening slowly and naturally . They can't blame it on review bombing. The game sold a lot despite the pronouns controversy so they can't blame some invisible reasons for their own failures. And the reviews are in open platform that you need to own the game to leave a review and most reviews are by people who have ton of hours in the game.

[@bigkabuto]

Apparently it was community managers and support staff doing it, not the actual devs. I can imagine actual devs having something better to do with their time.

[@ergohash2517]

i am sure the actual devs are facepalming and feeling embarasement for these cringe PR/customer support decisions

[@bigkabuto]

@@ergohash2517 Yup. It's not a good look, but what can you do. Hopefully those that did this crap....well..let them make sure it doesn't happen again.

[@erobertwicker]

I sure hope they can get their act together before TES VI comes out. Huge elder scrolls fan, and I love what they’ve done with the series so far. It would pain me to see that game take the same route that Starfield did.

[@AbstractM0use]

Hopefully the actual devs are too busy trying to fix their game, or putting some effort into ES6 and Fallout 5 to mock the people that keep them employed.

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

Considering all the copy-pasted assets present in Starfield, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was them. As a former Bethesda fan, after Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and Starfield (which is Fallout 4.2) I just don’t care about whatever they make next.

[@buffgarfield3231]

I am glad it only took me an hour to figure out I hated it.

[@kuro_kishi]

_"When the astronauts went to the moon there was nothing there. They certainly weren´t bored."_ So, Bethesda, if I always win in a racing game, does that mean I'll be the best racer in real life?

[@Lab_Analyst]

That Skyrim music still touches my soul man 😢

[@eagleclaws1781]

Nevermind the fact that the Developers of Starfield removed alot of Game Mechanics like proper enviromental hazards that do more than give you a simple debuff and survival mechanics (Alot of different consumables that do the exact same thing), and when playtesting the developers heavily reduced the combat capabilities of AI NPCs, because they found fighting them "Not Fun". And then there is the lack of Player Freedom because almost every Dialogue option has the same 1-2 results regardless of how you play and it feels like a third of NPCs is just outright essential

[@lamikal2515]

I never thought Bethesda would use their own NPCs as customer service "representative".

[@r.e.z9428]

I cant believe GmanLives called Starfield a masterpiece, I hope the check was worth it.

[@Boredasfuck29]

He also said a guy who posted GTA 4 gameplay should be sent to prison because the guy shot NPCs in the video lol

[@mattt21]

It sounds like they’re begging the players they have to keep playing. Yikes. They know this flopped.

[@CodeineCoffee]

I have very little faith in Bethesda to deliver with TES 6 nowadays. If they don't upgrade their engine to something more modern then they're going to die eventually. Starfield was far too ambitious of an idea for their tools and staffing. Bethesda magic works for real but it does have a shelf life.

[@ali6ism]

At this point I don't trust them to be alone in a room unsupervised with tes 6. I fear what they'll do to it

[@DaggerPrince]

When I first played Starfield, I really enjoyed it. Just like you described, during the honeymoon phase it seemed like a good game. But once that phase was over.. 🤢. And I think I know why that is aswell. In RPGs youre meant to be able to play them like a millions of times and keep getting different outcomes from characters, quests, endings etc. taking different routes in the story and so on. But in Starfield. There is basically no "Role Play" in this game At All. And it Especially got showed thanks to Baldur"s Gate 3 which is the best RPG that has ever come out - meanwhile Starfield is only Pretending to be an RPG. Basically there is only One specific path that you can go as a character, you cant deviate from it anyhow, in any quest, at all. Wanna be evil? You cant. Wanna kill everyone in Constellation? You cant - theyre immortal. Because in an RPG which is supposed to be about your choice, about whatever you wanna do, they Didnt wanna let you make choices. They didnt wanna let you make your story and play how you want - you can Only play it specifically how they want you to. And this shows through the Companions too - you can only romance 4 characters, in Skyrim you could romance like 50. And in Starfailed all the companions are goody-two-shoes boy-n-girl-scouts - once again, if you wanna progress theyre romance, youre Forced to be "good" or else theyll hate you. In Baldurs Gate 3 theres alot of romance options and some of them are morally-neutral, some flat out evil, so you can really be who you wanna be through the whole game and the class, race, background etc. really do change your game and how you play in Baldurs Gate. It honestly does nothing in Starfield. SF basically Pretends to be what Baldurs Gate 3 actually is. When I played Starfield the first time, I played a "good" character. So I was unknowingly playing exactly how they wanted me to. And when I finished it I thought it was nice - then when I wanted to play it again a second time, I found out that you actually cant do Anything else than what Ive been doing. And I realized how bad the game is. Also there are Factions you can join - some of which are Mortal Enemies - and you can join all of them at the same time, cuz Todd Coward wanted you to be able to "finish all quests in one playthrough". But if you do that, you take away the chance for the player to start another playthrough and see what happens if they join another faction that they couldnt join before. It would make your choices feel like they Actually matter if the faction whos an Enemy to your current faction doesnt take you in. Its also funny how in a game with Infinite Universes, they wanted you to be able to do everything in one universe... Why? What is the Actual point in going to another universe then? The ground-work was literally there. And they screwed it up. And yeah it sucks to lose everything in the new world.

[@NthnLikeCodeine]

Forreal man I feel the exact same way, very well said.

[@nlmnyc]

Yes, very well put. You brought up a great point - a perfect scenario for multiple playthroughs squandered.

[@Ayana_Mitsuiro]

It's designed so you will enjoy the first 50 hours, basically the journalists who review games probably won't test a game for more than 10 hours so it's why they get good reviews in the medias. But when you start doing NG+ runs it's were you actually realized that you will be doing the same fucking quests again and again (and maybe except for two factions they are boring).. it's fine for maybe 3-4 times but after that you become incredibly bored. There is no real exploration, 1000 boring planets with rocks and dust. Even the power temples are shit, float right, float left, float up and poof you get the power.. Seriously ? One of the things i enjoyed in Skyrim, Oblivion was exploring Ayleds Ruins, etc.. There is no such thing in Boringfield. Even the whole outpost buiding doesn't make sense, why would you build gigantic bases on many planets to craft things and spend a lot of hours in it if you lose it all in NG+ ? It's like playing Satisfactory for 500 hours and then you just erase your save game (Wtf)

[@liammacdonald-hi8rd]

To be honest, after seeing some gameplay it dosent look like something worth $70. Especially when the game had seven years of development, before release. You might as well play Mass Effect, as that's literally Star Feld, but better. Which is very disappointing, and pretty sad to say, as I have little hope for Elder Scrolls 6 and fallout 5, as I hope to God they will be good, and if not, then I'm pretty sure I, and may others will be done with Todd Howard and his bullshit lies.

[@musicology3552]

I'd pay good money to see the entire development team to defend their own game on a live stream. Just put Todd in front of a green screen and read out super chats with no moderation. They'd make million getting completely dunked on.

[@Ayana_Mitsuiro]

I really want someone to interview Turd Howard and try to explain why this game isn't boring.

[@Official_RetroMania]

Bathesda gathering more L's than the number of planets in Starfield.

[@aceclover758]

I wouldn’t say so. They sold and made their money backs The suckers that bought it are taking the Ls

[@ddsharknads7782]

I left a negative review on Doom Eternal a while back saying the gameplay loop got stale, and fighting the same handful of enemies over and over, and having to use the meta weapons killed the game for me. I got a response very similar from Bethesda, basically saying it's my fault that I didn't notice the subtle differences between the enemies.

[@postapocalypse0763]

Would you have a screen cap? I wonder how long they have been doing this...

[@skyrimisforthenords8312]

I have played oblivion and skyrim for thousands of hours and morrowind for 100s. Im a big tes fanboy. I was willing to forgive A LOT with starfield, because i know bgs strengths and weaknesses and i do think, generally, what they get right is very unique, immersive, and replayable. I abhor this game for a myriad of reasons. It ups all their faults to 11/10, adds esg bs, and removes everything that makes tes games great

[@marasmorgean5813]

Its even darker. Besides the gaslighting they try to redirect the reviews away from steam by encouraging players to use their own form... Its ironic how everybody literally tells them what they like to have in the game and still, they go the oposite way...at least people "care" up to this point. One day bethesda will release a game with 30 copys sould after 1 month - and there will be no feedback any more, because people started to give a fuck.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

And I thought it was only the stans that told me I'm not allowed to call this game boring, soulless, lazy, shallow, and sleep-inducing

[@ragmanx6256]

Fair statement, considering bugthesda has come to rely on modders to fix their broken games lol. There isn't a single one of their titles that I actually enjoy without mods, and I'm confidence Starfield will be no different in a few years after modders have gotten their hands on it for a while.

[@Manni6767]

The “No Man’s Sky killer” 😂💀

[@TheMythOfTheThickSix]

That game killed itself

[@Angelfyre.]

It’s crazy how Bethesda thought it would be fun to search for things to do. In Skyrim, Fallout 4 & even in Fallout 76 you would passively come across interesting things that would lead into quests, you didn’t always have to scrounge and scrape to find them. In Starfield you have maybe 40-60 hrs of meaningful quests and the rest are either repetitive quests or neat geographical locations to look at for a few minutes before moving on to more emptiness.

[@camraid9]

Trying to remember anything from Starfield, it's hard because everything is so forgettable.

[@abloun1575]

Exploring planets in a vidya is as exciting as the real moon dood.

[@ivantagunov394]

It's written like a joke from Fallout 3 terminal, a joke about soulless evil corporation, lol

[@someguy4384]

Fishing in real life: Fun, engaging, exciting, and full of friendship, familial bonds, and beer. Fishing in videogames: Pretty gay. And yet no fishing game has ever said "Well fishing in real life is exciting, so that makes our game exciting."

[@trentinlamar2026]

Loading screen field is a good game🤓🤓🤓

[@vert2552]

Starfield recently hit new record with lowest recorded player number on steam: 8,8k

[@Crownl3ss]

Bethesda games being janky and restricted back in the 2010s were still covered up and the quests, interactions and mods held up the buggy games and made it enjoyable and repeatable but in this age such soulless, mediocre and buggy games is expected from indie devs not the so called AAA developers and given the track record of Bethesda, it is very unlikely Starfield will have massive overhauls like Cyberpunk or No Mans Sky.

[@VykeKing]

Ironically Mass Effect which came out in 2007 has far better planet exploration, plus you get a rover to actually explore with.

[@Izthefaithful]

That’s completely true

[@Aysentaro]

its like those 50 in 1 NES games, endless fun

[@tahuluke6133]

In my country this game is $130 (like $15 more in US dollars) base game, $185 deluxe. Even going off US dollars for some reason this game is $10 more than the standard $60, that alone tells me every reason why I shouldn't get this game

[@charlescaulkins8306]

It needs to be this expensive! I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED! "Starfield. I have a family to feed." -not a PSP commercial or Egoraptor parody reference.

[@BoleDaPole]

Well you can thank S*NY for raising game prices and forcing Microsofts hand to do the same since people will think that xbox games aren't as good if the prices are lower.

[@NthnLikeCodeine]

***wrote a whole ah book*** One of the worst parts about Starfield for me (got me so annoyed I’m on here yapping about it) is that the factions were done awfully! My first play through I wanted to play as a space pirate so I could play as the bad guy and not worry about rep and so on, so I did the appropriate quests to join the crimson fleet only to find out that 80% of the planetary outposts and discoverable locations are occupied by them making it so they don’t attack you. It was really hard playing as the bad guy space pirate when most of the people and ships I came across were also fellow space pirates. Completely made me question why they’re even called pirates if they own half the fucking galaxy. Even on one of the final missions I was met with more friendly space pirates so what was supposed to be an intense gunfight (one of the very few in the game) was a complete walk in the park, literally. Even more so, there are already “spacers” which i don’t think you can join and that I saw maybe 2 times in my entire playthrough; why aren’t these guys the most common enemy if they’re not even a faction but a word for random space enemies. Building was a pain in the ass with MnK and I could write a second essay about all the other problems.

[@CornFarmer64]

That comment about the astronauts “certainly not being bored” was actually pretty funny to read.

[@ChaosAngelZero]

Wide as the universe, shallow as Pokimane.

[@silverblade357]

Hey, Bethesda. Go ahead and ask Hollywood how well this kind of behavior works. I'll be ready to fact check!

[@blaket1841]

I wonder if Bethesda thought this was their next Skyrim that they could remaster or rerelease 30 times for continual monetization. They've been on a cold streak since 2011.

[@joenewson3376]

imagine playing a game for 400 hours then saying you dont like it online 🤦🏿‍♂️😂😂🤣

[@n0denz]

1:22 You just described my experience with Fallout 4. I reached a point while looking through cabinets for loot and, looking at my inventory, realized that none of my guns were interesting, none of what I was picking up mattered, and that I had little reason to explore at all. I closed the game, uninstalled it, and never touched it again.

[@slicedtopieces]

It seems like we all get to that point with Bethesda titles eventually. For you it was FO4, for me it was Skyrim. Some of the older guys felt that way about FO3 even. Now a fresh crop are feeling this way about Starfield. Maybe it's simply a result of getting older though I nonetheless still can't help but think that objectively Bethesda titles have gotten blander over time.

[@n0denz]

@@slicedtopieces It took me awhile to realize just how boring Skyrim actually was. It hit me when I'd finally finished downloading a slew of mods and realized that I had zero interest in playing the game after. Though when Skyrim was released, I thought it was superior to Oblivion in every way. It's only in the last few years that I've come to have a real appreciation for that game's writing.

[@slicedtopieces]

@@n0denz Yeah, I didn't play Skyrim when it first came out so I missed all the hype. When I did play it, like you, I modded it to heck but came to realise I was basically fighting the game constantly to make it more fun than it was actually designed to be. Maybe I'll take another look at Oblivion though.

[@Donny-Jensen]

Not to sound like an Xbot, but at least starfield has New Game + at launch, unlike spider mid 2

[@shlakenjake]

What is that song played at the beginning of the video. That's from Skyrim, right?

[@R0MULUS97]

If they spent half as much time seeing their games to completion as they do pettily responding to customers, modders wouldn't have to pick up the slack of their continual failings.

[@NEH85]

No on-planet vehicles is enough to know this game is laughable. Hard pass.

[@michalsavatar7]

Its hilarious how some americans still think NASA landed a man on the moon 54 years ago......while today in 2023 the richest man in the world can even get one of his rockets to take off without exploding lol.

[@randomcrandoface2363]

I was thinking about picking the game up, now I don't know... Probably not.

[@chance0marasso]

I'm not overly defending anything just my personal opinion. I'm enjoying the game, I'd say if you have interest, give it a try. It's not my favorite Bethesda game but honestly I've been having alot of fun.

[@1beatcher]

If I was you, I would wait for it to be $20.

[@tudomerda]

The first mod I installed was the Skip dialogue mod, couldn't stand the brain dead dialogue nor the obnoxious shaming quips from the female npc's, the dev's in charge of the narration and dialogue have no idea what constitutes banter, NONE. Then there's the terrible copy paste of locations/buildings/outposts right down to the positioning and behavior of the NPC's in the buildings, its a disgrace how they've copy pasted everything.

[@Dovahkiin0327]

This is exactly why I got gamepass 😂 the days of me paying $70+ for a video game are never coming

[@onomee130]

you guys just dont understand, those are not bugs, boring mecanics, old gameplay and technical aspects, those are features

[@Dj-Mccullough]

Have to agree with your take there. I felt it was a 7 at first. but yeah its a 5 after stepping back. I feel that could MAYBE go up in the future, if the mod scene kicks in and improves the game, like they normally do bethesda games.

[@TheRealDarthias]

What is the music you use in the background for this video @GriffinGaming? It's really nice and chill.

[@GriffinGaming]

Streets of Whiterun

[@BilisiFunfun]

They're comparing playing a game to some astronauts filming propaganda on a movie set? lelz 🌚

[@peckneck2439]

It's mind blowing to me how in their minds one of humanity's biggest achievements like moon landing could be in any way comparable to landing on a moon in a video game... I mean, dude... like...dude...

[@gethinfiltrator6700]

Can you imagine using AI and valve just banning them for botting because it's literally what it is.

[@nightstalker4253]

Just like starfield, Bethesda's custermer support is copy and paste.

[@BenitoMussoliniIsStillAlive]

2 videos in the same day,has Christmas come early or what?

[@GriffinGaming]

This was a mistake lmao

[@1CE.]

Streets of Whiterun Streets of Whiterun Streets of Whiterun Streets of Whiterun I can’t do dis sh** no moa man

[@Fonz128]

This is the worst most bland console generation in my lifetime.

[@ValkyrieThunderbolt]

The only Bethesda games I have ever played is DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal and that’s it. I’ve never been interested in Skyrim or any of the fallout games. I was hoping we could get Titanfall 3, fat chance of that happening. I haven’t bought Starfield and I will never play that pathetic excuse of a video game, SMH. FYI, there’s more exploring in Star Trek online than in Starfield and that game is “free to play”. It would be interesting to know if Bethesda is doing damage control because they want to have a good image so Microsoft won’t give them the ax.

[@manyanisilavwe8534]

Where's the background music from?

[@ioshinigami2165]

what's the name of the song playing in the background?

[@CoolSs]

I called it day one. I called the game trash. How the F people still get blinded after fallout 4 and 76. bethesda literally build their success on others work and doing marketing analysis to what buzz word they should build their next game on.

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

O get why they thought it was good, but they weren’t looking from the outside, the game just doesn’t click for a lot of people

[@TheMikepatota]

You’re the first person to read responses like these out loud, the same exact way I read them in my head that I’ve come across.

[@acev3521]

You’re right this literally feels like an intern misclicking and letting chat GPT go ham.

[@ryanshadow507]

This is just sad and hard to believe at this point. I honestly thought this a parody when they mentioned the irl moon landing. But Starfield does nothing good enough to justify buying it imo. Bethesda has better rpgs like Skyrim and for space exploration No Man's Sky is a better game at this point.

[@arkeshn729]

I did Mass Effect 1 new game plus runs just to get the whole team a set of Colossus armor. A new game plus mode that causes you to lose most of your stuff, no thanks.

[@tomallan5000]

Bethesda's responses are about a copy and paste as the planets they generate. All I can say to Bethesda is to move on to FO5 and ESVI and forget this cold, boring mess.

[@JohnBoosh]

They need to accept it’s a good game, not a great one. I’m an Xbox guy and didn’t really care for StarField But I also never really liked the Fallout series