Bethesda's VR Games: Wasted potential

[@wyatthinkle8995]

You produced this at 24 Subscribers? No kidding you found success

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

Definitely

[@evanthesquirrel]

I've been going through the whole catalogue after what the Romans thought of the Greeks then jews. Good stuff. The scene with the Roman bureaucrat telling the Jewish priest to put the statue of Augustus in the temple was what hooked me.

[@ppbuttfart2215]

He is proud of what he makes, whether or not it is profitable. DJ did something great, and found success

[@peamut547]

It’s crazy to look at it in retrospect… he was always a quality creator, even before he blew up.

[@AKKK1182]

When 5 minutes into FO4 VR I could phase my hand into the locked box and pick up the cryolator, I understood exactly how much effort went into those broken shitty ports. And as with every Behtesda game you have to mod the shit out of them to make them playable. Nice touch making the menus use the controller touchpad as well, that crap handles worse than that stupid nipple in the middle of thinkpad keyboards.

[@rockeestar4629]

that comparison with the touchpad, hits to close to home...

[@Rohrkrepierer]

When Elder Scrolls 6 was teased all I thought to myself was "Oh no"

[@wilberator9608]

I just couldn't believe how people were getting excited about it. It's a freaking landscape.

[@demetter7936]

@@wilberator9608 Let's just be honest here, it's gonna be shit. I really wish it isn't, but there's no way they're gonna live up to the hype and what skyrim offered.

[@demetter7936]

@Rayan aglm People are hyping it up too much. It's gonna be another cyberpunk, i can already see it. You're giving too much credit for a company that has consistently made mediore games in the past few years. I just don't see them suddenly giving a fuck and making a truly great elder scrolls when they've given such little fuck about any of their games recently. Saying there's things to improve from skyrim like the magic system doesn't mean they're gonna improve it, and i doubt they will.

[@SolaPersona]

@@demetter7936 I can't see any reason that it won't be exactly like every other TES game in history. It's not going to be a Cyberpunk because Bethesda isn't CDProjekt and their problems are different ones. Its seems gamers have lost their long term memory, as it relates to Cyberpunk, since CDProjekt has NEVER launched a working fucking game. Not Witcher 3, definitely not Witcher 2, and the first game is laughable. Bethesda consistently develops games that are beautiful and complex worlds with engaging systems that are marred by questionable writing, unnecessary simplifications/streamlining, and over-ambition. We can't treat the likes of SkyrimVR/FO4VR/Fallout 76 as if they were games that Bethesda cared deeply about. Its sad, but you can point to this SAME behavior from Legends to the Oblivion era Mobile games, all the way back to the Cyrus spin-offs. It isn't new behavior, it isn't a trend change, and it doesn't mean TES6 is going to be a crashing trainwreck like CDProjekt publishes every single time.

[@demetter7936]

@@SolaPersona You're either 10 or just a dumbass if you think skyrim or fallout 4 released in good states lmao.

[@microwavedricecake1554]

3:29 got me curious so i googled it, so today i learned how motion sickness actually works.

[@ZarKus]

for me it doesnt work, never experienced it

[@CowBeatsCrow]

Fun fact, when you're in an airplane flying through a cloud and can't see the ground, your body has no way to tell whether you're upside down or not. You can be completely upside down, banked to one side, in a steep climb or dive, and you can feel totally normal. Pilots use what's called an "artificial horizon" or "attitude indicator" which...indicates the attitude of the airplane in the air by showing an reference of the airplane against an artificial horizon, usually consisting of a blue backdrop on the top half and a brown backdrop on the bottom half, while a wrinkled line inhabits the center. Sometimes on a dark or hazy night they have to land the plane with no reference to the ground other than their instruments. Instrument flying is some crazy stuff.

[@rumblezerofive]

@@CowBeatsCrow I think you might have meant altitude

[@CowBeatsCrow]

@@rumblezerofive I did not. "Attitude" is used to refer to an object's positioning or orientation. I suggest you look up a video about the "attitude indicator" if you're curious how it works.

[@rumblezerofive]

@@CowBeatsCrow cool, I think I just might learn a bit about them

[@JonnyfromElma]

"You know what happens when a Giant hits you." *Godzilla vs Kong trailer plays* That was some perfect timing

[@RizzyTizzyLando]

I hate peach cobbler, in fact, I’m a blueberry cobbler man myself, however, I LOVE YOU DJ

[@danthewaterman_]

Uh sir that's a war crime

[@Jthacker8124]

Heresy

[@keatonscott9120]

I prefer cherry pie

[@dustinstanley9134]

Peach cobbler is the greatest of all cobbler. Prove me wrong.

[@TheTGOAC]

@@dustinstanley9134 blackberry cobbler. Sit down.

[@Heyyits_kj]

"Except when your brother lands on boardwalk you get to suplex his ass" lmfao

[@Ghoast.]

Can’t believe the quality of the content, will be lovely too see your channel grow w time

[@Ghoast.]

Made this comment 4 days ago, and he’s gone from 48k to 80k, good job algorithm

[@edsheeransdad9985]

​@Ghoast. Were at 415k now brother!

[@luke_lmm2881]

463k!!!!!

[@Barely_Here]

So this is now the future(and as of commenting the past) but ambition projects like blade and sorcery for vr made by small teams are a perfect example of some small stuff that add to the game i would have loved to see in Skyrim vr. Muffling peoples mouths, enchanting short term affects on weapons by simply flame blasting a dagger, etc. small details in a medium where the player will actually notice them at one point or another makes vr a very cool toy. I love it.

[@vladbat4050]

I'll be honest, I got skyrim vr due to the mods and just modding skyrim like everyone else (plus it was on sale for like 24$). Stuff like the full visible body, Sky UI fixing the menu, a full physics mod for props and more, along with the bug fixing mods honestly make the game feel more like a proper VR port. Despite the VR issues of the lazy Skyrim port I ended up having a pretty enjoyable experience ngl. Speaking of ports, Minecraft Java's Vivecraft mod easily trumps the windows 10 VR port. Vivecraft looks better, runs better (thanks optifine), it can be modded with many many mods, and then shaders and resource packs if you just hate your computer and want it to cook some bacon on the cpu. Honestly though I can't believe the glory kills for Doom VFR, it could've been a ragdoll system of sorts where you get make your own unique glory kills, like yeah you can grab an imp to then tear apart like in normal doom. Being able to grab an imp by the legs, swing him around, and then watch as he's thrown into a wall to splat a big puddle of blood sounds infinity much more enjoyable then the lazy "telefrag" Even the doom 3 VR mod that people made based off some official stuff John Carmack worked on a few years ago is better than Doom VFR. Btw huge props to the lord and savior John Carmack for helping with VR (even if Oculus is owned by facebook)

[@roberine7241]

you can now actually run minecraft java edition on the quest 2 as well with some time investment using Sidequest to install it. haven't tried if it works yet, but from the reviews under it I would say yes.

[@onlinekicker]

The more you showed me, the more I realized how insulting it is to the medium. Hopefully developers realize and do something about it.

[@ArDeeMee]

Developers do. Publishers don‘t. Guess which one makes the decisions.

[@FloodlightGamingReal]

as an amateur dev working with another amateur dev we are doing our best to fix it, though the craters left by the nukes of EA and Bethesda are probably not going to get fixed by the equivalent of apprentice carpenters with a hammer some planks of oak and a gallon of plaster between them

[@galaxyplays9462]

this sentient pie has opened my mind

[@Franchise-jq7tq]

“Truth is, nothing just worked from the start.”

[@vgmtyson6797]

I come back to your channel every couple of months and just Marathon all your videos man I love your them it's so nice just to sit down a watch something like this and a love your content so I hope you have a nice day/night I look forward to seeing you next time.

[@NerdyGrounds]

Not gonna lie, I love Doom vfr. Being chased by the large hell knights in vr, or getting the berserk powerup and getting to "physically" punch the demons to explode them is utterly awesome. It makes me curious how a vr game made by ID software could turn out if they were able to go all in. Hugo Martin seems to love vr, and Quake could be a great game to experiment in vr due to Quake 1's more horror atmospheric approach. But until then, I'll always recommend the Serious Sam vr games over Doom vfr if someone wants some old school style shooting in vr.

[@DJPeachCobbler]

I've actually been playing Serious Sam 3 VR after someone recommended it after watching this video. My frustration from Doom VFR mostly stems from the fact that they only did a few levels, and no new weapons (except for those grenade launchers). If it was just a full port of 2016, I would've been more cool with it. Also, I hated "telefragging", which was such a weak replacement for glory kills. Really, there's just so much wasted potential. Although seeing the demons up close was definitely great

[@NerdyGrounds]

@@DJPeachCobbler Ya, thats all understandable. Hope you enjoy SS3 vr. The second boss battle was when I fell in love with the game.

[@metroplexprime9901]

Hell, if ID software was to make a new quake game, I would think that they should put it on VR and make it the best goddamn fast-paced VR shooter they can. The quake games always had a core component of incorporating a new technology and pushing the medium forward. In this case, the new tech would be VR and optimizing it in such a way that you can play really, really fast without getting motion sickness.

[@InnerDness]

It's completely blasphemous that you would present Skyrim with the Morrowind theme

[@Ezekiel_Kleyer]

Morrowinds version of this song is the best one. I will die on this hill!

[@InnerDness]

@@Ezekiel_Kleyer it almost makes up for trying to hit a fuckin rat ten thousand times and missing with a knife somehow

[@jontedeakin1986]

Discovered this guy yesterday and am now binging all the content on the best channel on KZbin. Good videos My guy :), see you at 1 mil

[@TheCocomunges]

A quarter the way there now

[@yoel9396]

Shoutout to the real Bethesda developers, the modders

[@rileyreed7690]

Doom vr : can be good if you try really hard to get into it Fallout 4 vr : decent with mods but without any way to see armor it is pointless to try to pick your characters clothing besides stats (without mods if you arent holding anything you see your controller which is SUPER immersion breaking) Skyrim vr: base game is similar to fo4's problems except hands are rendered With mods skyrim vr is great and i would definitely recomend (VRIK and HIGGS are VERY essential there are more i am forgetting but those are the most inportant)

[@viktordickinson7844]

Really good to see your channel blow up like it has in the last year.

[@lianperry6084]

Todd Howard is the embodiment of an automated email response.

[@tras500]

the ending hit way harder than it should've i only played were skyrim and fo4

[@nolanl.8773]

That little lies cover at the end slaps, thanks DJ

[@TheNexDude]

When your eyes, brain and ears start roasting each other there is a problem.

[@faustasdaunoras5385]

7:38 this bit hits hard

[@TheOrian34]

"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies" Todd's theme at the end, nice editing touch.

[@PeterPork]

Ive never seen more perfect ad placement

[@sebastian8596]

Good video, honestly suprised to see you only have 24 subscribers. You just gained another.

[@DJPeachCobbler]

Thanks! I hope you like my video next week

[@Lexbomb6464]

@@DJPeachCobbler You sure have gotten far in a year, amazing work man.

[@walloper9972]

@@DJPeachCobbler congrats on gaining 50+ K in under a year hahaha

[@Emperorerror]

@@walloper9972 man's almost at 90k now

[@walloper9972]

@@Emperorerror 40K in 2 weeks... wow

[@djartyom1243]

this always reminds me of how payday 2 did VR if I recall wasn't it completely free? it was just a new way to play payday 2 they didn't split the community by having vr and non vr players they just gave us VR no questions asked

[@seanalbro3689]

Dude I might get Skyrim VR just to experience the giant thingy that honestly looks so fun

[@BasaltHorogiumFan]

Bro ended on the Dharr Man quote what an inspiration

[@NiGHTSnoob]

Learning someone who clearly has thousands of hours and hundreds of games under his belt got into gaming through Skyrim. Man, I'm oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold. NES Super Mario Bros. and Ninja Gaiden club represent.

[@madboaterfinger9528]

They were probably hoping the mod community would take Skyrim and run with it. I laugh so hard at your vids man, 10/10

[@Disissid19]

What if Bethesda made a new game. But this time, they redeveloped the games with the main game Edit: CoDeveloped

[@DJPeachCobbler]

I'd really like to see that, but doubt it'll happen anytime soon.

[@Disissid19]

@@DJPeachCobbler Microsoft is announcing VR support to it's Xbox platform. Who knows?

[@GoblinModeKnives]

I have bought Skyrim 4 times. the addiction is real

[@StalkingPigeon]

Standing ovation! 16:13 God damn, Lindsey Taylor comes in and I somehow manage to double secret standing ovation. Dude, I fucking love your art! On a scale of 1 to 10 your art throws the scale in a shit shack filled with the desecrated remains of Marc Antony and the rest of the Atari ET cartridges and pours a bucket of red paint on it. Over the last week or two, my wife left me, And while I’ve always been a fan of your art and a subscriber for many winters, I have been nonstop binging all your shit for days with no reprieve. I don’t even know how to explain it,

[@elarialialesleimmanis2350]

This isn't even /beginning/ to touch on how broken Skyrim VR is. Didn't touch on how the core scripts are being updated for SSE, so gradually more and more mods just /can't/ work for VR. How that's already an issue for the unofficial patches. How mods are blatantly not /supported/ for VR, by Bethesda's own words. Not to mention the, plethora of issues in the game. Because, that's a dead horse. Which you now can't carry and fling around. Just like you can't pick up a ton of random objects that still have physics. Or how when you do, they just fly in front of you instead of letting you hold it. Thank you, KZbin. For helping reopen this wound.

[@jmjedi923]

Thanks for the farts into the mic bit I fell off a ladder laughing

[@legolasontheshelf3587]

Cobbler videos hit different on a Monday

[@donder172]

Am I the only one who thought the moment they saw Doom VR 'how is this a possible concept at all?'?

[@GrendalTheBeasty]

Getting launched into orbit by a giant in VR is the single greatest part of Skyrim VR. Maybe I'm just crazy though.

[@jeff-hd9og]

riding a dragon is better

[@Postman307]

Oh Ya! Gotta hit us with the Dhar Mann quote at the end lol

[@thecoolnerdplaysvr5674]

Theres a port to play og doom 1 and 2 in vr. And all mods to do so. Including brutal doom Small issue. You need to edit a setting. Because you dont have enough speed to make a couple jumps. You can no clip through them. Otherwise 10/10 experience with the 3d weapon models.

[@DerivitivFilms]

So I had low-fi hip hop playing in the background during your video, and the slow jazz hip hop went really good along with the rhythm of your speech. You should look into some slow jazz in the background. Otherwise yeah I completely agree, Skyrim is meh, Doom VR was a short dumb down asset flip of 2016, and man Fallout 4 was an absolute janky mess! A TOTAL WASTE!

[@DJPeachCobbler]

Interesting, I'll look into that. Thanks for the tip and glad you agreed with the video!

[@sorensants9412]

I didn’t press play on Skyrim vr without installing 10 mods. I knew when I bought the game I would need mods.

[@imscoob5226]

As u said doom vfr is going to blow my mind a kinderjoy ad showed up and said WOW KINDERJOY THANKS MOM

[@Bassist-Beneath]

Damn, RIP DMX :(

[@kguile7832]

Ok mordekaiser calm down

[@hadrienaubertin2164]

Genies always mess everything up to lash out after being trapped in a bottle for so long (also, if you believe in trying hard for games that have atmosphere I recommend Elite Dangerous in vr)

[@KaimArgonarEyyyy]

Never had issues with motion sickness with Skyrim as a PS4 player. Only problems I have is how they changed the handling of crossbows and magic to a gun-like grip, and how fucking janky the dragon hitboxes are.

[@polargriz579]

Now that Bethesda is under new management I’m hoping things get a lot better as long as Microsoft puts forth the same effort to correct some of Bethesda’s past wrongs I see a brighter future for their games

[@Se7enRemain]

Microsoft!? Oh, bless your heart

[@industriousbug]

Surely the diminutive sales of VR versions of game factors into the amount of effort and therefore money is put into these versions.

[@boomboombro1015]

If I was an immortal genie I'd get bored after so long and start fucking with people too

[@adamemedia3139]

Finally, someone who recognises and CARES about this topic. Bethesda let us down man.

[@seismic5558]

rest in peace DMX

[@bush2239]

Yeah community modded VR will be my first Skyrim Experience, but first I have to get a 2060 TI at least. RIP in piece.

[@Ezekiel_Kleyer]

I bought Skyrim recently...for Enderal special edition.

[@YOUNGPADAWON]

With Mods they have lots of potential

[@landoblando8947]

Also on ps4 skyrim vr looks like your looking through a bumpy foggy kaleidoscope

[@Suicidalsquadd]

It’s not entirely Todd Howard’s fault, it’s Robert Altman, the shady scumbag lawyer that kicked the original creator of Zenimax out of his own company, Todd Howard hasn’t been able to code in one of his own games since 04. There’s a whole video on this subject

[@hugostiglitz491]

Link it

[@TheOrian34]

@@hugostiglitz491 That would genuinely be very interesting yeah.

[@dakotahostermeyer505]

I wish i could play fallout vr. But i have quite a few vr games and unless i already have a headache, i can play all day. I have no motion sickness at all. I love skyrim vr. Evwn just psvr. Its great. Needs to render and a greater distance. People can still shoot at you outside the render zone around you

[@levibrewer8463]

One good Elder Scrolls and forever won't seem so long

[@jakedill1304]

RIP DMX... now he's just giving it to the angels... annnd I'm going to hell.

[@AnotherGuyProductions]

Doom was made by ID... Bethesda softworks published it, but Todd works for the game studio

[@decoded360]

Everyone is aware of that already

[@AnotherGuyProductions]

@@decoded360 in the video they talk about it like Todd had anything to do with the game, which he didn't. Doom VFR had absolutely nothing to do with Bethesda game studios

[@Chedring]

My only desire for VR Bethesda games is just using the headset as the POV and using a controller for anything else. Can they at least do that?

[@floridamancode_e2673]

I really don't get sick in VR. Even times where people normally get sick.

[@a.o.skurtt]

I feel proud that I haven't bought Skyrim but for 10$ one time.

[@matrixam6493]

I bought Fallout 4 VR, played it for an hour, then refunded it. Literally took FO4 and added VR tracking. Bullshit

[@planning9930]

Vr is really fun if you can run it well and can handle the low quality graphics

[@mostlyforyt]

The only honest thing Todd said in 2012 was "take advantage"

[@cheeseman4199]

At least they actually believe in vr, unlike most companies

[@nathanwilliams3877]

RIP dmx

[@kostazarikos3383]

Its sad how many mods you saif you neede for it. Think about how many casuals who don't download any mods felt

[@saintsykes7350]

He's the best youtuber rn

[@saintsykes7350]

And George Carlin is my hero

[@ZarKus]

never knew that ppl were getting sick playing skyrim vr... i guess im lucky since i can even easily withstand playing gmod vr mod that at the time was not very good and my friends kept throwing me off buildings xD thank god im a strong male, big chad man

[@danyosuna7276]

Todd could literally give like $100 bucks to all the modders out there and make a great Elders Scroll game out of it but he insist on shitting on bethesda for some reason

[@dawreker777]

Dhar Mann quote at the end

[@fulcrum6528]

I thought glitchyness was a feature....

[@fulcrum6528]

Also the last quote is Bethesda basically

[@theultimatep1e40]

So, the doom thing is propably because you know that you are not doomguy

[@87agomes]

Jesus, I mean I liked Skyrim but after platinum'ed it on PS3 I was done with the game. Cant imagine someone playing this huge ass game 6 or 7 times, especially when the combat and dungeon exploration can get repetitive fast

[@chancerichardson9110]

Judas! Is it the game you have made me wait for the first game I'm Guna buy in 10 years plzzz tell me this is it by that dude who promised what a game could be I need you reaction to this plzzzz even if it's breff hope your dooing well you content is my favourite to rewatch your bioshock retrospective was amazing keep it up man !

[@Milacan]

X gon give it to ya!! 🤣 I laughed too hard

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I'm convinced Cobbler buys all kinds of bad Bethesda games so he can feel like he's getting sexually abused by Todd

[@alexanderstainton3199]

Me: playing hours of Skyrim VR, waiting for a shred of a reason or break down or excuse to play Doom and Fallout VR Peach Cobbler: Ahh man this game just sucks, I've got nothing to say about it. I HATE YOU VIDEO GAME DADDY BETHESDA. Me: Come on Peach, pull yourself together. Tod abused us too.

[@Jon-mu7tn]

Todd howard , Michael scott ....

[@curvables1]

RIP DMX

[@Nanakoglasgow]

2:08 If you're gonna say "I talked in a previous video about X" It would be a good idea to actually link that previous video there, you can do it with a little clickable thing inside your video Don't make us go search through all of your videos to figure out which one you mean :(

[@impurity8002]

Goddamn not even three minutes in and thinking about buying skyrim on switch

[@tacnyan1496]

liked for the dhar mann quote

[@rustyphilip7826]

VR LIMITATIONS

[@MikolasCage]

4:20 - Rip DMX :(

[@linnuppenberg8409]

Great video!

[@Crimaybe]

Of course Bethesda even relies on their modders to make their VR games real VR titles.

[@deathmurmur]

good vid, well baked

[@henstar337]

Morrowind VR exists.

[@snicksandstones]

Doom vfr kicks ass

[@haroldhurst5105]

1:16 Fallout Todd Vegas

[@FacialVomitTurtleFights]

I cant with you, most youtubers i can stand.. mostly out of the mediocrity of my life... But you...are...different. You have a future.

[@Galimeer5]

Todd Howard doesn't have anything to do with Doom though. He's head of Bethesda Game Studios and Doom is from id Software. Both studios work under the publisher Bethesda Softworks.

[@sofos798]

DHAR MANN YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH