Better Call Saul Season 1 Episode 9 'Pimento' REACTION!!

Chuck wants to transfer the Sandpiper case to HHM much to Jimmy's dismay. Mike gets a job offer working as a bodyguard. Here's our reaction to season 1, episode 9 of Better Call Saul.
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#BetterCallSaul

[@bjrnb9042]

"You're not a real lawyer"... that's when the show really started

[@FreemanicParacusia]

He could have been if they'd given him the chance.

[@eduardocelis6710]

That line hurt Jimmy's soul

[@hanhai8515]

@@FreemanicParacusia I hated Chuck at this episode, but after finishing season 4, I realized Chuck was right

[@christucker7655]

@@hanhai8515 he was right and wrong because he should have stuck out for his brother and they could’ve been successful together

[@nandoman4769]

@@hanhai8515 not really. If Chuck had given Jimmy an Honest chance and let him become a partner at HHM Jimmy could have honestly come out as an incredible lawyer to rival even him. But by rejecting him Chuck essentially forced Jimmy into becoming the horrible thing that Chuck claims he never wanted him to be.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

The actor who plays Hamlin is really great. When he's confronting Kim he's being real nasty until he hits a point of "this is too much. i can't keep covering up for Chuck". I like the characters in this show so much.

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

u should see his reaction when chuck....*spoiler spoiler* but this supressed anger, that boiling emotions he tries to keep down and be professional....you see the fight he is fighting against himself in his face so well. that was absolute greatness

[@iminumst7827]

I like how he was type-cast as this slimy slick asshole kinda guy, he has that stereotypical evil guy look that everyone expects from a tv show. You know what I mean, the sorta handsome sorta mean looking blonde white guy in a well kept suit with the nasally voice, any other tv show he would just be nothing but an asshole. But in this show, he actually ends up being one of the most ethical people on the show. Shows everyone to not judge a book by it's cover.

[@sparksdrinker5650]

Plus he used to date Kelly Kapowski

[@lucakellu3781]

😫😫😭😭

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Indeed. If my boss would have talked to me like this and not stopped me at the door to explain himself, I would have quit and looked for a new employer.

[@freem8son86]

The way Jimmy says to Chuck "I thought you were proud of me" is heartbreaking

[@mrstark4003]

Hamlin was never the one who didn’t want to hire jimmy, he was just the one who gives the news

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Chuck was such an asshole he used a guy who admired him as a mentor instead of being honest with his brother

[@TheDetailsMatter]

I suspect the offer of a 20% finders fee rather than the standard lawyer's fee of 40% was Chuck's doing as well. A substandard fee for a substandard lawyer, a deliberate slap in Jimmy's face.

[@TomboTime]

that's really the worst part. Howard was NEVER a bad guy. He was a henchmen, sure, but not a bad guy. He was loyal to Chuck because he believed he had his reasons and he willingly took the role of "bad guy" for Chuck which allowed Chuck to pretend to be on Jimmy's side. It's disgusting.

[@666MaRius9991]

@@TomboTime Fuck Chuck! With a brother like that who needs enemies?

[@enotsnavdier6867]

@@TomboTime Howard even said that he really respected Jimmy

[@lfcizdabest]

One of my favourite episodes. The way they lead you down the road to thinking Howard's the bad guy and then flip their card over to show it was Chuck all along - superb writing and character development. Badass Mike side story too.

[@weewer3369]

Howard is one of the best written red herrings I've ever seen.

[@rikard.h]

I don't remember exactly how Hamlin's character develops from here, but in this case I think he might have agreed with Chuck - but when he spoke to Kim he put all the blame on Chuck to look better in her eyes.

[@MrMeddyman]

Don't spoil it

[@ghxstleader485]

We also find out nacho is ignacio

[@LitchiBoba]

I have never 180’d so hard on a character before. This show did a great job with Hamlin

[@JackOfBlackPhoenix]

I love how Mike's speech about good guys and bad guys directly mirrors what is happening with Jimmy / Chuck storyline in this episode. Jimmy is the "good criminal", he does some slimey stuff but he does so to ultimately help people in trouble, and he takes care of his sick bro. Chuck is the "lawful evil", he is willing to use the law in order to stab his own brother in the back. Such a good show.

[@NoahVends]

This is such a good parallel that I didn't even piece together

[@garyblackburn849]

"Lawful Evil"... Is this a Dungeons & Dragons reference? By the way, great post. I didn't put that together, but now that you did, it makes perfect sense. Chuck feels superior to Jimmy, he sees him as a lifelong loser. Jimmy with a degree was a slap in the face to Chuck; wanting to be a partner is a travesty and an embarrassment to law.

[@mario_gabriel]

Maybe it references Jimmy but I don’t know about Chuck, yeah he’s an asshole and it seems like he’s jealous but I think he knows that Jimmy will take short cuts at some point and do illegal things, maybe we as spectators can see Jimmy trying to do the right things at the beginning, but Chuck doesn’t, besides we all know Chuck is right, slipin’ Jimmy will appear at some point. Chuck kinda reminds me of Walter: “Chemistry must be respected” and Chuck: “Law must be respected”.

[@SARGEHALO666v2]

Good writing through and through. Vince Gilligan and his crew of writers are geniuses.

[@Jeremy-jm3fe]

I actually attributed Mike's speech to Walt and Jesse. Walt (bad criminal) Jesse (good criminal)

[@MoonageDaydream.]

The scene where Jimmy confronts Chuck is one of my favourite scenes from this season. Must suck knowing the big brother you spend your life taking care of doesn't want you to succeed.

[@cuccamunga]

@@Spongebrain97 Can you please not mention future scenes?

[@cuccamunga]

@@Spongebrain97 Uh, it's not for my sake. I've seen the show multiple times. This is a react channel, not a free range forum. Just be considerate and watch what you say at the risk Nikki or Steven are reading. And don't be a smart ass while you're at it, thanks.

[@prot07ype87]

@@Spongebrain97 You're like Ken in Breaking Bad.

[@Spongebrain97]

@@prot07ype87 no u

[@Spongebrain97]

@@ourcorrectopinions6824 ???

[@emilhofilena5570]

This was it for me, the moment when I felt that Better Call Saul really ascended to the same level as Breaking Bad. It only gets better from here. The Jimmy/Chuck relationship is one of the best character relationships in the last decade. (P.S. your cat is adorable)

[@netko1174]

Emil Hofileña where is cat?

[@arizothwow1]

Exactly this episode is the beginning of the greatness of this show

[@IceSword1728]

@@netko1174 cat makes it's appearance at 7:33

[@corbeaucorriveau8634]

Let's not forget that Jimmy passed the bar, which is considered to be the most difficult test to become a true lawyer. Online course or not, he did work his ass off too, without even asking for Chuck's help and expertise might I add!

[@fakereality2027]

Jesus! That's ridiculous. The scene where Jimmy found out it was Chuck who went behind his back and Called Hamlin made me so emotional. Poor Jimmy, he always had his brother's back and he looks out for his friends too, but no one takes him serious. Except Kim. The reason that made me emotional is that I know exactly how it feels to give all you have to your loved ones and getting betrayed by them. Shout out to Bob Odenkirk for his beautiful acting. 👏

[@sinnizster5038]

"if I need a gun I'll use one of his.." classic Mike

[@cluster_f1575]

I totally forgot this was the Mike vs Trevor episode!!

[@vengeance9188]

Cluster_F you beat me to the gta v reference lol

[@sandercohen3309]

He will always be Trevor to me. He walk, talk and act the same. Even the look matches.

[@UMANGPLAYS]

I got a recommended video just below so I kinda guessed.

[@praveenvijeyakumar741]

In the parking garage scene, the characters were obvious references to Grand Theft Auto V. Steven Ogg, who voices Trevor Phillips in the game and even looks like him in real life was present. The guy offering the job has an uncanny resembles to Lester Crest, who offers to do heists and stuff. Also, the names of the three protagonists of GTA V are Trevor, Michael, and Franklin. Considering that Mike is short for Michael, that also fits. On top of that, Steven Ogg's character carries more guns that a person should realistically have, just like a video game character.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Wouldn't have surprised me a bit if he'd also had a sleeve Derringer and a cel phone gun in his breast pocket.

[@unk9192]

The big guy was probably filling in for Franklin, since he had to take care of Chop

[@PilloTheStar]

Steven ogg didn't just voice trevor, he mocapped him too. Gta actors are actors, not voice actors.

[@Mozzylver1]

I binged season 1 as season 2 was coming out and this episode... Oh boy. This was when I knew this show would be incredible. This is the episode that sold me.

[@memogarcia3874]

This is the reason I look forward to Mondays!

[@sandercohen3309]

Yeah...I hate Mumunmunundsdays, but this makes it better.

[@suncore598]

I felt just as betrayed as Jimmy when Chuck revealed his true nature. I liked Chuck before this point.

[@TheNaughtyFrench]

we all feel betrayed and we all hated Hamlin at first... That's the reason why humans made mistakes and judge too fast people and are naive about people they thought they were good people...

[@shugaroony]

I like Chuck. He is an asshole, but he's also a tragic figure, and he's right; Jimmy always cuts corners playing fast and loose with the law, hence Chuck's belief that he isn't a real lawyer, he's just Slippin' Jimmy playing with it.

[@xzxzxccxzcw2028]

@@shugaroony Chuck being "right" isn't independent of his own actions - he chooses to make it this way. If he didn't stand in Jimmy's way, things might have gone very differently to how they did. And this notion that there is such a thing as a "real lawyer" aside from someone who has passed the bar and is paid to practice law is just Chuck being delusional. Plenty of white-shoe high-powered corporate lawyers are complete crooks, as bad or worse than Jimmy ever gets to be

[@george8873]

Now you know why Chuck is in the series. That's why Rita was distraught when she was telling Jimmy to take the deal from HMM. She didn't want to hurt Jimmy with the truth.

[@ElphabaRaine]

Kim. ☺️

[@ThizbeSylvan]

episodes like this remind me why i can't decide what is a better tv show, Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul! they're like one in the same

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Yeah I kind of think of them as one big show

[@kentonkruger8333]

Personally I'm still holding back judgment until this one wraps up and can be seen as a whole. BCS is currently a bit behind, but certainly has the potential to overtake BB depending how the last season or two wrap.

[@TatsurouSan]

The scene with Chuck and Jimmy reminds me a lot of Walter and Jessy when Messy became almost as good as Walter in cooking meth.

[@ben1ben2ben1]

Jesse was never close to as good as Walt at cooking. The highest purity Jesse ever made was 96% (same as Gale). Walt was OVER 99%. We don't know how pure Walts meth was because the machine didn't test higher then 99%. Like Gale said "That last 3% it may not sound like a lot, but it is"

[@ben1ben2ben1]

@Supanjibobu Gus was ready to get rid of Walt because Walt was crazy and a real threat to Gus. If 96% was close to 99% Gus never would have broken his rules and gotten Walt in the first place

[@parkerboy795]

@@ben1ben2ben1 I think the point was how Jesse proved he could cook by himself and that while it wasn't as good as Walt's, it was good enough and that Walt tried to call his cook a joke and that he felt sorry for him.

[@jhonny1416]

Last scene from Walt he looks the lab and see the 80% like feeling proud of Jessie.

[@chimp4225]

Messy lmao

[@goneyon]

There's kind of a running theme in this whole series: those who have always taken the straight path in life to success are incapable of understanding redemption. They look down on everyone who failed, because they struggled so much to never fail, so the impossible standards they set for themselves are now things they set for everyone else. Chuck seems exactly like that in the final scene of this episode. He knows Jimmy screwed up his own life before, multiple times, and because he himself never did, Chuck can't bring himself to understand the concept of inner change. But it's still tremendously arrogant and cold-hearted to work against your own brother like that. The lack of self-awareness in Chuck's mind is really quite something.

[@shugaroony]

But at the same time, he is right about Jimmy; playing fast and loose with everything he does, is his nature.

[@SARGEHALO666v2]

Better Call Saul is the best TV series airing right now. Bar none. I cannot wait for season 5. BCS is the same level of quality writing as Breaking Bad. I love it.

[@freem8son86]

This is the episode where you start to see what Better Call Saul is all about. It's essentially a tragedy about Jimmy McGill's failure to stay a 'good' lawyer. And Chuck definitely plays a large part in that.

[@write2pras84]

Did you guys pick up on the Pimento sandwich reference to the BB episode when he takes Jesse on a day full of picking up dead drops, and where Jesse "saves" Mike? He packed (will pack?) his sandwich and offer to Jesse. :D

[@0101tuber]

For those old enough, Michael McKean "Chuck" played Lenny on Laverne & Shirley

[@brett19890]

Really glad to see behind the story lines of what made Jimmy into Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad.

[@the_nikster1]

the thing that's really sad about the relationship between Chuck and Jimmy as well is that Jimmy has always looked up to his brother Chuck and unfortunately, nothing Jimmy could ever do would be good enough. that scene has always been so powerful to me because of that fact. I fucking love this show!

[@VacuumJockey]

Chuck shows his true colors, and Howard is exposed as... a guy just trying to run his company? Some heel turn! ;)

[@KlvtchTheAlien]

sadly i found yalls channel after GoT had ended so i couldnt watch it with you guys but I've gotta say. i think your channel is perfect for people who don't have a ton of people to watch stuff with. and it helps that me and steven have like the exact same movie taste haha. yall are great. best channel ive found in a while :)

[@justinfalzon6854]

He wants to work with his brother. Its not about the case, and its not about the money. He wants McGill Brothers in the thick of it back to back. Poor Jimmy.

[@katiei7103]

Just had to pause at 7:43 because your adorable cat just made a guest appearance from behind the couch! Reminds me so much of our old Trigger with your cat’s colours! I love it when I see random ears or a tail emerge from back there during a video. It’s almost worthy of being a game for the Stikker fam “Where’s Kitty?!” 😂 🐱 Aaaand continuing the video!

[@thepoiuyt98]

I’ve been waiting for this episode. Makes you want to binge watch the seasons all over again.

[@EntertainmentMan132]

Jimmy's last scene with Chuck was the biggest surprise in the season for me, and it really felts like one of the first big turning points for the show.

[@write2pras84]

What I love so much about this show (along with a million other things that is :) ) is how well all these side characters fit in to the whole show and contribute to the direction that Saul is headed. Like the Kettlemans are a distant memory already but they served their purpose on the show and now we move on to Sandpiper.

[@Shoofyou10]

It’s amazing how good Bob Odenkirk is in this role considering he wasn’t even an actor but a comedian and writer when he broke into the industry. Writing on Saturday Night Live, Late Night with Conan and his sketch show with David Cross (Mr Show). For him to be such a good dramatic actor is shocking

[@Theorigonaldoc]

The actor who plays Chuck is a really talented blues musician, it's so crazy separating the douche character I love to hate and the actor who's a really cool dude. Superb actor because I buy right into him as Chuck

[@stevencleere4912]

Michael McKean is a classic character actor, He was in Clue, This is Spinal Tap, Coneheads, Airheads many more.

[@tamitaylor3110]

@@stevencleere4912 He also played Lenny in Lavern and Shirley, the tv series. He was great. A Reaction to the movie "This is Spinal Tap" would be so hilarious.

[@loveoffilm4327]

"hamlin, what an asshole" "nacho, thats a scary/bad dude" "jimmy what a good little brother"......a lot of interesting episodes coming up...

[@ErikOlsonAZ]

Waiting until this episode to say it, but the dynamic between Jimmy and Chuck is one of the best things about this series.

[@wdid8221]

Funfact, the sandwiches that mike shared with jessy in breaking bad were also Pimento cheese sandwiches (season 4, episode 6)

[@Unqualifiedmedicalperson]

I love those scenes between Jimmy and Chuck. Yes, their relationship is sad, but Bob Odenkirk and Michael McKean nail it. Two comedians giving fantastic dramatic performances.

[@SnowTheJamMan]

Oh shit i forgot it was monday, off to fix me up a snack so i can enjoy this lol

[@DanielWatches]

Can't wait for you guys to start Season 2! I just finished it and it skyrockets in quality and craziness. Good stuff all around

[@tidepride86]

Oh Howard. What a great character.

[@Reypadd]

I love 'Better Call Saul' and I'm actually binge-watching it again through your reactions (instead of watching the show). Keep up the good reactions!

[@geovannisoto4583]

At 15:40 When Nacho drops the 20 bucks, Nikki Is like "Fuck you man, what a douchebag" And at season 5 when Nacho escapes, Nikki is like "Oh no Nacho, please save him" Ironically the show gave us many plot twist with the caracters, this is such a great TV show! 😝

[@thisissparta300ful]

Since there is blue meth in the walking dead I’d like to think the Steve og character this episode is Simon from TWD

[@TD0150]

He got a lot more intimidating, lol

[@wnk3166]

From Reddit: "And the pimento cheese sandwich the episode takes its name from. 'Southern caviar': something cheap masquerading as something respectable." (also r/fuckchuck)

[@CST1992]

So Chuck is the pimento... I thought Mike was because he had the sandwich and he rocked the scene with Steven Ogg(Trevor Philips ;))

[@Latexi_LMX]

Highlight of the week, Better Call Saul reaction! Church! YO!

[@katiei7103]

I think what bothered me most with what Chuck did to Jimmy (aside from the betrayal), was the deviousness. He wanted Hamlin to appear to be the bad guy so Chuck didn’t lose his support from Jimmy at home. But that level of betrayal and then asking your law partner and friend to take the blame, Hamlin must’ve done it to try and protect Chuck’s healthcare from Jimmy as well and was willing to be the fall guy. I mean I get it, when you work so hard for your qualifications and career and someone manages to find their way in via a shorter pathway, it’s frustrating. But Jimmy still had to pass the same bar exam that Chuck did. He still had to know the same things and he put in the work, even if he got there quicker he’s still a legit lawyer. Thanks for the reaction, guys. I really appreciate you and loved watching your faces as Mike took on Steve Ogg in such a badass way 😂 Also, Steven Ogg voices one of the main characters in Grand Theft Auto 5 (Before TWD and BCS) just in case you wanted to know for your gaming channel. He’s just as over the top as he is in every TV show 😂 📱 🧀 🤔

[@popmer2456]

At this rate you guys will be caught up with BCS on Feb 24, 2020... BCS 2x a week plzzz!!!

[@rishabhpb]

let them take their time, it's not like BCS is returning that soon anyway

[@chriseleftheriadis9379]

@@rishabhpb you are not wrong about that

[@scrrin]

They will probably still finish before season 5 comes out. And there will be a smaller gap between season 4 and 5.

[@bradleewalsh7676]

Man, you guys gotta stop being so demanding. These two have kids and a life outside of your wants and needs from them. Please at least think of already how much content they put out and it's not like we aren't going to get to it. Oh also Better Call Saul's next season won't even be out by that time in 2020, so taking their time is actually perfect.

[@dtpiers6136]

Next season doesn't come out till 2020, so I'd say they are right on schedule

[@wasp8919]

This episode is so important to the overall show, really. Mike's speech in the car is the overture of the entire series, in how he was saying that he's known good criminals and dirty cops, evil priests and honorable thieves. You can be on one side of the law and still be a good person, you are a criminal, but it doesn't necessarily define the quality of your person. Chuck is kind of right, he has a brother who he's watched take the dirty, criminal road for so long, that cuts deep, so to watch him turn around and try to become a lawyer just like him isn't about Jimmy trying to better himself in Chuck's eyes, he can't unsee Slippin' Jimmy, no matter what. Doesn't make it right, of course, he values the law and so stabs his brother in the back for past actions Jimmy can't undo. He does it with arrogance, and a sense of superiority at being a "real lawyer". That is not the action of a good man, but he's on the right side of the law. Jimmy, however, though he has been honestly trying to better himself this whole season, definitely falls under the side of the criminal. He's broken the law, still, but does that make him a bad person?

[@2000tmaster]

In my opinion, this is one of the best episodes of the show. Definitely the best of the season. My favourite part is the last scene, because it solidifies Chuck as one of the best characters on the show: 1. Michael McKean is an amazing actor. The way he portrays his mental illness is amazing. There are those tiny expressions on his face or some tiny gestures that always let us know how uncomfortable he feels around electricity. Most of us never experienced anything similar to that, but you really understand how Chuck feels. Even if Chuck puts up a brave face and claims that all the electricity is not that big of a deal, the audience understands how he really feels. And the way he delivers that final monologue of the episode is amazing. He tries to hold back in the beginning, but once he mananged to say those words: "You're not a real lawyer." The emotions just come out of him. And it doesn't just sound like the confession of an evil villain. Chuck genuinely sounds desperate and hurt. 2. I totally understand why someone would hate Chuck. Let's be honest. This is not how you should treat your brother. The worst thing he did is how he completely ignores every improvement Jimmy has had over the last few years. We have seen Jimmy as a (mostly) honest man. Season 1 did a good job at showing us how different Jimmy is from Saul. How he refused to take over a million dollars from the Kettlemans on two occassions just because it's "the right thing". And how he actually cares about his elderly clients. But Chuck disregards this. He only sees Jimmy as Slippin' Jimmy and refuses to acknowledge that he has changed. But try to see it from Chucks perspective. Do you have that one relative who has on multiple occassions shown that he is unable to take any responsibillity? Someone who takes shortcuts whenever possible? Who is somehow always handed everything he wants? Now admit that you don't like this guy. And now imagine that this guy has the power and the responsibillity of a lawyer. Even if that guy claims that he is now a better man, wouldn't you be sceptical? Wouldn't you think that he would eventually screw up and cause some massive damage? And if you had the power to limit that damage, wouldn't you use it? We've only seen the story from Jimmys point of view and that's why we hate Chuck. But I do understand why Chuck did what he did. I may not have done the same thing if I were in his place. I actually strongly believe that he made the wrong choice. But I do think, that Chuck is more than a guy of pure evil, even if it may look like it. I do not like Chuck as a person, but I love him as a character. 3. On a sidenote: If you are looking for a way to represent mentally ill people in media, I think this is the way to do it. Chuck is not just part of a minority to have a more inclusive story. His mental illness directly affects the plot in numerous ways. But episodes like this one show us that he is so much more than his mental illness. In the entire section I wrote above, I did not even mention his illness. That's because he has a lot of depth as a character that goes beyond his illness. His illness just adds more depth to the relationship between Jimmy and Chuck. And even though his illness limts him, he is very capable on his own. I think this episode demonstrated this sufficiently. And thanks to Michael McKeans acting we actually get to understand someone who is so different from us. Edit: 📱🧀🤔

[@uoabigaillevey]

You just stated more eloquently what I commented a bit ago (well.. yours was before mine but I had not yet read any comments before posting.) I was on the verge of hating Chuck's character but I definitely understood where he was coming from and knew if the story were Chuck's and not Jimmy's I would have thought Jimmy was just a lazy jerk who lived life as if everything were free to take with no repercussions. I would have hated Jimmy too. Peace

[@ben1ben2ben1]

You are really skipping over some of the shady shit Jimmy did in season 1.

[@coolbreez1214]

Fuck Chuck Respectfully ✌️😎

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

The real issue with that explanation is that you are taking Chuck at his word. "Chuck says he is only fucking over his brother for the greater good, so he must be a good person" But here's the thing: Chuck has more reasons than that. Why do you think they showed us the flashback of Chuck and Jimmy being in the hospital with their dying mother and Chuck not telling Jimmy that her last words were "Jimmy"? Why do you think we saw that whole dinner flashback where Chuck tries to impress his wife with jokes after Jimmy makes her laugh? They show us that Chuck is jealous of Jimmy. Jealous. You cannot analyse his actions without taking that basic fact into account. Chuck wasn't just acting out of his perception of the greater good, he was also acting on his own jealousy. His brothers success infuriates him, not just because he doesn't believe Jimmy shouldn't have any power, but because he is jealous that Jimmy has achieved so much despite, in Chuck's eyes, being lesser. The idea that Jimmy is more charismatic than him, funnier than him, more loved than him, and in some ways a better lawyer than him is something Chuck can't bear. So instead of having to face that reality, he pushes Jimmy down. Prevents him from seeing success. That way his ego is preserved. He is the better brother.

[@rubenlopez2764]

Always look forward to these reactions.

[@oldcat7]

Now you start to see part of why Jimmy ends up becoming the guy he is in Breaking Bad. By the way, I always thought the talk Mike had with "Price" in the car kind of foreshadows Jimmy's transformation. You might not be a bad guy, but you are a criminal. 📱🧀🤔

[@ben1ben2ben1]

Jimmy is a bad guy though. Always was, even right down to when he was a kid and he helped bankrupt his dad by stealing from him. Jimmy has been scamming people his whole life. He later helps kill several people. Chuck is right about Jimmy

[@oldcat7]

@@ben1ben2ben1 When BCS starts he is a good guy. Sure he tried to scam the Kettleman's but they deserved it. Other than that in Season 1 he is a changed person from what he was in the past. He was also very caring towards Chuck, helping him with the everyday routine. This was the point where he started to go back to being Slippin' Jimmy because Chuck made him feel less than. Chuck has some points here, but he never believed Jimmy regarding that he really did change. It was very judgemental and unfair to not let Jimmy work at HHM. Sometimes you just have to cut people a break and try not to live in the past. Jimmy felt heartbroken and betrayed, and since this point he not only goes back to his old ways but he also goes further than before. This incident and other future happenings all contributed to him becoming a criminal lawyer.

[@shawhawthorne2895]

Just wait You guys think this is something?! This.. this chicanery?! He'll never change!

[@toddjh]

The thing is, we've seen how things turn out, and what Chuck says about Jimmy is...well, he's not wrong.

[@corbeaucorriveau8634]

That's Chuck's fault though. When the person you love and admire the most basically tells you you're trash and will never amount to nothing, chances are that you'll think of yourself as trash and a good for nothing. Jimmy had a great case here, and his brother stole it from him and stomped on his work.

[@Kordass126]

@Drake Lang Could he though? I don't wanna spoil anything for Nikki and Steven but look at what happens in season 2 at D&M. There's no reason to think it would work out any differently with him working at HHM.

[@syabri2342]

@@corbeaucorriveau8634 I think it's a bit too easy and simplistic to reduce the whole thing to "Jimmy is good and all the bad stuff is because of Chuck". I don't completely disagree with what you're saying, but personally I think it's a little from column A, a little from column B. Jimmy definitely has the potential to be an awful crooked lawyer, Chuck knew that, and he certainly didn't help.

[@mario_gabriel]

To be honest I really doubt that Jimmy could have been a legit lawyer, slipin’ Jimmy is like the Walter/Heisenberg of this show, everytime he really wants something to go on his way he does some illegal shit or take short cuts. Chuck just pushed him even more to be a criminal lawyer but he would have been one anyways.

[@elbruces]

That is what's called a self fulfilling prophecy.

[@kimmycupreacts]

I'm reacting to this show right now and just got done with this episode. What an amazing episode! Loved your reactions, as always!

[@landosalemchainsaw]

Jesus, that Mike Vs Ogg (I only know him from GTAV) scene is just pure awesome. 📱🧀🤔

[@paulgarcia8608]

Another great reaction...can't wait for next week's because the finale was awesome

[@DxC-95]

I was so excited when I realized this episode was coming. Seeing Steven Ogg was a treat, since I loved Simon (and considering there was blue meth in Merle's bag in season 2, AND Glenn was driving the red car Jr. got when he, Rick and co were leaving Atlanta, many people theorize that the two shows are in the same universe) The whole scene with Mike, "Simon", and man-mountain is one of my favorite BCS scenes, especially when Mike unloaded the gun within two seconds and throat-chopped the guy XD

[@adamvialpando106]

Who is this 'Simon' you speak of Sir? All I saw was 'Trevor'.

[@hapahapahappy]

When Bob says, "Hail Satan" that's actually a reference to his famous sketch from 'Mr Show' where he's a Satanist preacher. One of the funniest shows ever made, Bob really is a genius.

[@DarkPriestess1]

Poor Howard. Forced to be the bad guy so Chuck can keep his hands clean.

[@pearljammies]

Notes from Better Call Saul Insider Podcast* *Episode:* Pimento *Co-hosts* Kelley Dixon (editor); Chris McCaleb (editor) *Guests:* Co-showrunners Vince Gilligan & Peter Gould; Jonathan Banks (Mike); Writer & Director Tom Schnauz; Michael Mando (Nacho) (I adore Michael Mando fyi) 1. Michael discovered BrBa late, but by the time he was cast, he’d seen it all 2. He didn’t know Mijo (the code name for Tuco) was going to be Tuco until the day before filming, that’s how secret they kept things 3. Michael thinks Nacho actually has love & affection for Tuco. 4. Like Rhea Seehorn, Michael went to set during shoots he wasn’t in to absorb the process & learn from other people’s work (not just actors but writers/directors/crew members/etc) 5. Steven Ogg! Mark Proksch! (Look up Zim Zam Yo-yo man on KZbin for some of his hilariousness) 6. Mark Proksch had auditioned for Mr. kettleman & almost got it, but it wasn’t quite right, so they contacted him for this role. 7. There was a jimmy flashback teaser that was cut for time. (No description - it’ll likely come up later)

[@pearljammies]

8. They did not think when they started that Chuck would be jealous of Jimmy, but it came in large part from the pride with which Michael McKean carries himself/plays the character. Howard was originally going to actually be the “bad guy” until they saw how the actors were playing things 9. Similarly, Vince had pictured Jesse just as a young punk. All of his sweetness came as a result of Vince & the writers seeing what Aaron brought to the character/the Aaron that shone through 10. Its really hard for Howard how everyone sees him (as the bad guy), but he plays the role to protect Chuck. Kim taking him to task really hurt & broke him. 11. Characters grow & develop even when offscreen. Nacho has an earring, which tells Michael Mando he’s been making moves. 12. Things Michael saw in Nacho in his first scenes - his intelligence (understanding how to work with Tuco, being able to alternate between talking with Saul & Jimmy, the Kettleman scheme); his dichotomy of compassion & violence; his ambition; his humanity - why does he pick jimmy? What does he see in him? He believes in jimmy before jimmy believes in himself...he sees the Saul in jimmy, and takes a risk in revealing himself to him. 13. Vince had called Michael McKean Agra’s of time to tell him Chuck would take a dark turn. They don’t think Bob knew before getting the script. They were both so excited for their scene and worked sooo hard.

[@endorphinzz]

Hearing all of your comments and knowing what's yet to come in the next few seasons has me smiling like a mf'er lol...what a great show and you are both perfect reactors for it.

[@earthandairandrain]

What a great cast they assembled for this show -- the actors playing Kim, Nacho, Howard and Chuck fit right in with Jimmy and Mike, strong performances all around. I've always loved Michael McKean, his presence, his voice; so glad he gets a prestige TV role to add to his long career.

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

I hate to admit it, but Chuck isn't completely wrong. I mean, we've seen Breaking Bad, we know just how slimy and dangerous Jimmy with a law degree can be... he can be Saul! Chuck called it.

[@hamsterfromabove8905]

That's called a self fulling prophecy. If you treat someone one way for long enough they start to believe that's who they really are. Its not fair to decide how someone will turn out and then treat them in a way that guides them towards what you already decided they were.

[@DenjiMX]

Do you think Jimmy would’ve become Saul Goodman if he was accepted in HHM from the beginning? I’m pretty fucking sure he wouldn’t. Chuck plotting against him made it a reality.

[@unk9192]

Weird seeing people call Ogg “The Walking Dead guy”, he’s been “Trevor from GTA V” for me for as long as I’ve known him.

[@ianpilgrim7681]

Mike is so F****n cool, we need 2 episodes per week PLEASE.

[@EdMannonPercussion]

Just in time for me to watch while I eat my lunch - thanks for the welcome break in the day! :-)

[@carriesmith742]

I loved this episode! So many characters' true colors, good and bad, came out in this one. Loved your reaction, as always. I searched your Heisenberg shirt online. ☎️🧀🤯

[@xcross20]

i just started watching this show , and man i felt so really bad for saul , he look like he wanted to cry which made me sad

[@skaterpulse6746]

Pryce reminds me off Lester from GTA. Which is ironic considering he first appears in the same scene as Steven Ogg (Trevor Phillips)

[@Reshme77]

Just saw lester and you're right

[@abducteeofearth1703]

When Walt and Jesse took Saul into the desert and Saul saw the hole they dug - “It wasn’t me it was Ignacio!”

[@Ahmed98Saber]

Best episode in the season 🔥🔥

[@FlameOfUdun96]

The “you’re not a real lawyer” scene is still one of my favorites in the show

[@chriseleftheriadis9379]

Five 0 is the best but this is a a close second

[@SlipNJimmy]

As fantastic as this episode is I still think *Five-0* and *Marco* are even better.

[@aworkinprogress4387]

I loved this episode. We finally got to the crux of the issues with Chuck and Jimmy's relationship. Chuck has a view of who Jimmy is and nothing Jimmy does will ever change it. It's fucked up because Jimmy has done so much to make up for his past and prove himself to Chuck and Chuck can't see past anything but Jimmy's past. It's also crazy when you realize that Hamlin isn't the asshole we all thought and he's just been doing Chuck's dirty work for him. Chuck is a total asshole. I also really loved that Mike scene. It was just Mike showing off what a bad ass professional he is. His interaction with Steven Ogg was just hilarious.

[@Nevi234]

Great discussion this ep :) You're totally right about Chuck

[@NuanceOverDogma]

You have Hamlin all wrong. He actually respects Jimmy but he had to listen to Chuck & do his bidding because he's too important to the firm

[@Doommaster677]

Exactly, without Chuck HHM wouldn't have existed to begin with.

[@weewer3369]

There's no doubt that they have a rivalry since Jimmy sure doesn't make it easy for them to get along, but Howard always called him "Jimmy Hustle", he respects Jimmy's drive and I feel like would be willing to work with Jimmy on the case if not for Chuck's objections.

[@GameZedd01]

I love Steven Oggs characters. We never get a real name and he disappears after Better Call Saul so I wholy believe that he moved to Georgia or wherever and is Simon from The Walking Dead.

[@J0rdan912]

Classic joke about Steven Ogg's character getting wasted in Better Call Saul episode: - He'll be fine. Probably already respawned somewhere around local hospital.

[@YourDadYoda]

Steven Ogg deserves to be in so many movies and shows

[@BenderRodriguez10]

If only there were a "chimp with a machine gun" emoji.

[@botwitaprice]

Steven from WD also played Trevor in the Vid game "GTA 5"; that's where I saw him first.

[@jychilly]

As heartbreaking as that scene was, you have to see things from Chuck's point of view. Chuck was afraid that Jimmy would become exactly who he DID eventually become: The Saul Goodman we know from Breaking Bad. Now the question is: Did Jimmy become a "criminal" lawyer despite Chuck's actions...or because of Chuck's actions?

[@loveoffilm4327]

We've seen saul goodman moments this season before chuck but i think chuck couldve steered jimmy in the right direction

[@weewer3369]

@Supanjibobu Some stuff in early season 2 makes me think otherwise. Jimmy enjoys being a little crooked.

[@parkerboy795]

@@weewer3369 Admittingly, that was because after this, Jimmy stopped caring about being on the straight and narrow. The brother he tried to make proud turned out to be sabotaging his attempts at being a good lawyer and thinks he's a complete scumbag. So really, why bother with right and wrong anymore? I'm not saying Jimmy doesn't bear responsibility for his actions, but Chuck's action definitely played a part.

[@zrifepsych]

"can't wait to call him Saul" Boy so do I.

[@cuccamunga]

The thing is, everything Chuck went on about is absolutely correct. As the audience throughout this season, we have watched Jimmy try to scam the Kettlemans into getting their business with the skater twins (who eventually get their legs broke). We watched him accept a bribe from the Kettlemans when he discovered them "camping". We watched him stage a billboard rescue story in order to get more business. He took part in stealing a detective's note pad on a murder case in order to protect his client who's a suspect. He hired Mike to break into the Kettleman's house in order to protect his own ass. Regardless of how hard Jimmy has been hustling and how much he tries to operate within the confines of the law, he still has been the Slippin' Jimmy who Chuck has bailed out time and time again. And imagine being an expert at your craft, working vigorously at achieving the highest regard in your choice of profession in which you hold sacred, only to watch someone you know full well to be a scam artist weasel their way right up alongside you and cut corners with no regard to the people who can get hurt along the way. I don't agree with Chuck's sense of resentment and jealousy that certainly is a factor at play or how he went about using Howard Hamlin as a puppet to keep Jimmy under control, but I completely understand where Chuck is coming from, and even sympathize with it. I remember watching this episode for the first time and I felt the same way you guys did, but then I let it stew in my head for a bit before realizing Jimmy is so charming and fun to watch, that it's hard to not root for him regardless of whether he's in the right or wrong. Considering we know that Jimmy McGill will become the sleazy criminal attorney Saul Goodman ("Slippin' Jimmy with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun!") who will assist someone as horrible as Walter White, Chuck might have been doing the world a favor by assuming Jimmy never changed.

[@lastool]

Yea. The writers are so good at getting you to root for villains. Remember that Sault recommended to Walt that he send Mike on a trip to Belize and should treat Jesse as an Old Yeller situation. He also recommended a prison shanking for Badger. Saul recommended murder on many occasions.

[@franksheeran7485]

I felt so bad for Jimmy there.. he got betrayed by everyone

[@teriaugustine6464]

1:22 Well this video took a turn for the weird.

[@goingupandupandup]

The fucked up part is that in some way, Chuck is right. Jimmy is dangerous and should be stopped. We all know he eventually becomes Saul Goodman. But Chuck's petty jealousy and anger stopped him from seeing that not allowing him to join HHM just further brings him is criminal path. In the end neither Jimmy nor Chuck are completely right in this situation. They are both just people doing what they believe is right.

[@jmsaucedo]

Simon from the walking dead it's a great character

[@gghelis]

I think this is the first episode where they nold us Nacho's full name. Now go back to "Breaking Bad" and remember what Saul said when Walt and Jessie kidnapped him and drove him into desert.

[@Zseventyone]

17:41 - Surprised you don’t see it was Chuck a long time before this, but still not yet? :)

[@bruhmomento6691]

14:18 “This dude needs to get like beat up or something” oh… 😭😭 🕯️

[@Pentaholic88]

The shift as to who we knew Chuck and Howard for this season has now flipped. Man oh man 📱🧀🤔

[@RoyalFusilier]

I distinctly remember during the early parts of this episode turning to my Dad and saying, "Chuck's probably my favorite." Praising Vince Gilligan to the moon became a meme because he actually deserves it, what writing. What a well-established and devastating reversal.

[@Xone9]

Nikki: "Fuck you, Chuck." Oh yeah, you guys are all in now.

[@cartwright77]

that scene in the parking garage was awesome!!!!

[@ironlion5836]

# 'dont f... with mike' squad. (i know im late to the party but loved this reaction)

[@cavs25100]

Howard is actually a pretty nice dude. Just kind of robotic, and comes across as douchey

[@Kordass126]

I find the dude super hilarious. "Because I don't care" - I just love his mannerisms and voice intonation

[@lastool]

@@Kordass126 I feel like he is an under appreciated actor on this show.

[@limjahey9787]

Love that Mike n "Simon" scene Mike's soo badass love em

[@friendlypup5650]

I root for chuck although I know he’s pretty much the joffery of better call Saul to everyone else

[@uoabigaillevey]

Although I root for Jimmy in this regard, I fully understand Chuck's motivation so I do not hate him per se.. tho I do root against him simply b/c this is Jimmy's story lol.

[@friendlypup5650]

UOAbigail LeVey yeah it’s funny to see people hating on chuck because of his resentment for jimmy even though everything he predicted based off of years of living with him and knowing him, HE WAS RIGHT. I’m not saying people can’t change but they usually don’t. Just cause jimmy loves his brother and wants to do good doesn’t mean he’s meant for the law

[@GMontag]

@@friendlypup5650 Chuck was only right because he made a self-fulfilling prophecy. Chuck could have mentored Jimmy and kept him on the straight path, but instead he acted out of jealousy over Jimmy's charisma and popularity and did everything he could to make sure that an actual by the books career wasn't a possibility for Jimmy.

[@friendlypup5650]

GMontag yeah I’m not gonna argue his morality. I think your right if he spent more time on helping jimmy become a better person and was less jealous jimmy could have gone on a better path and *SPOILERS if things didn’t end so poorly between chuck and hhm mabey he would’ve embraced jimmy more when he came to chucks house asking for forgiveness and mabey jimmy would’ve been more straight after his death. But here’s the thing, we don’t know a lot about their childhood. We know jimmy has always been the same and caused his parents business to go bankrupt by stealing cash. Who knows how they’re relationship was. Mabey jimmy never truly cared for chuck until he had his condition, mabey chucks condition was caused by jimmy and the resentment he had towards his brother. What we do know from flashbacks and other information is that everyone always liked jimmy more than chuck and the only way he could prevail was by working hard to be respected. Its complicated and messy. Although jimmy was probably the more sympathetic character. I always found my sympathy lying towards chuck. It’s just a cause of miscommunication between the two

[@SARGEHALO666v2]

Chuck is a dick but he’s right about Jimmy. We root for Jimmy, but Chuck was right all along.