Better Healing XP - Let's Play Fire Emblem Project Ember Part 2

[@1killer911]

Growths above 100% always give one stat point with a % chance to get a second. For example a 105% growth is always 1 point, with a 5% chance to also gain a second point.

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you for the info!

[@sophanitsar7706]

Thought of this the whole day, just got home from work, cooking myself dinner while watching this love letter to FE VI, thanks KratosMVN

[@kratosmvn_]

No problem! I'm very happy you were excited about this and took the time out of your day to watch :)

[@metrux321]

So, I know it's been a while and all but... Some reason why you not visiting the houses, only villages?

[@kratosmvn_]

Houses traditionally don't hold anything except maybe like a dialogue line or a tip.

[@metrux321]

@@kratosmvn_ I see, thanks!

[@craigyeah1052]

I started playing PE after your first video ffand started struggling on Ch. 3 so I'm looking forward to next episode. And I'm only playing Hard Mode. Also nice to have you breakdown the unit changes since I'm too lazy to look them up on the chart haha. Having so much trouble training Shanna because enemies hit so hard. Wing Spear is nice though. Also, the wyvern on the mountains was a pegasus on hard.

[@kratosmvn_]

Nice, I'm happy you picked it up 😄 The unit breakdown is fun to do, and it makes it simpler for everyone! Training Shanna might be a pain down the line 😕

[@AbdulAhad0128]

It's a great day when Kratos uploads

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you 😎☺️

[@melancholicwriter56]

Also, just as a heads-up, not sure if you know this but Roy promotes with a Knight Crest, so just keep that in mind and that you can promote him much earlier than in Fe6.

[@kratosmvn_]

I'm pretty sure I had read that in the notes, but I fully forgot until now, so thank you for the heads up! :)

[@melancholicwriter56]

@@kratosmvn_ Yeah, it's a much better promotion than the OG fe6 one. I also recommend giving him durandal with animations at least once in his promoted form for a cool little easteregg if you're not aware of what that constitutes.

[@AaronSentinal]

Oops, his Dieck fell off

[@kratosmvn_]

Oopsie, lost my Dieck LMAO.

[@summonbolt0086]

Buffing healing exp is sooo nice. It really bothers me how killing is worth triple the exp that healing is and even more so how a unit dealing one damage to an enemy who has full health is worth the same exp as a healing healing someone from sub 5 hp to full. Anyway always love to see PE videos as it’s lowkey better than half of the original fe games imo

[@kratosmvn_]

Yeah the XP healing buff is great! Glad you're enjoying the content there will be more in the future for sure :)

[@1killer911]

You should really cover units as soon as they enter the field or you recruit them. For people who aren't familiar with them it gives them a quick rundown of what the unit can do, and as you're seeing now, if you lose them you're in a really awkward place at the start of next episode where you either don't cover dieck at all, or you cover a dead unit.

[@kratosmvn_]

The problem with that is jumping in and out of analysis kind of breaks up the gameplay a little too much. Maybe I can add every recruitable unit at the start of the chapter instead that could work better.

[@moogianpreist]

​@@kratosmvn_I think that a good middle ground

[@autumnwhiskers8820]

@@kratosmvn_ It does, but it also wouldn't hurt cause after the initial analysis there's 30 minutes of interrupted gameplay and a new analysis could break it up some perhaps

[@ashleydelarosa130]

Ez like. Keep em coming.

[@kratosmvn_]

Thank you! Will do!

[@1killer911]

I think my man also missed that diecks base level was raised to 10, along with having that hero crest on him. Basically a second marcus in this hack.

[@kratosmvn_]

I didn't mention the base level, but I did notice it. We'll talk about it quickly next episode.

[@PatrickleMorse]

They kinda turned Elen into light magic Lilina ! That's interesting, I don't think I've seen a build quite like hers in the vanilla gba games what with her insane luck growth. I really love those stats comparisons, I like stats and mechanics analysis :3

[@kratosmvn_]

I'm glad you enjoyed the stats comparison. I love making that part as it gives me deeper insight into the unit. I can't wait to see how Elen competes with Lilina later on!

[@voltron77]

@@kratosmvn_Lilina kicks ass. She’s legit broken.

[@JA-js8uk]

Which is ironic given that Lilina’s unique promotion gives her access to light magic as well

[@Battagang]

Boys and squirrels? I want to be a squirrel now

[@kratosmvn_]

😂

[@redwolvlives]

It is possible to get a unit onto the first fort in this chapter turn 1 but it requires picking someone up and then take/dropping them onto the fort with Alen.

[@kratosmvn_]

Oh yeah, that makes sense. I don't usually do a ton of rescue dropping, so it didn't come to mind.

[@Treefrog47]

Nooo what’d you do to my Dieck 😂😅 pun intended

[@kratosmvn_]

No more Dieck :(

[@mateobonavento3939]

That's unfortunate, the Big Dieck Energy ran out too soon. Looking forward to see how they improved my boy Chad in the next chapter.

[@kratosmvn_]

We had about half an episode of Big Dieck Energy... now it's all small Dieck energy going forward :( Oh can't wait to see what they did with thieves! I'm not a huge fan of them in normal FE6 cause they are purely utility (most of the time).

[@michaelcaban1749]

Prepare for what Roy's Our Boy really means 👍😂

[@kratosmvn_]

😂 I can't wait to find out!

[@voltron77]

In the original game, the enemies are stronger than in project ember.

[@melancholicwriter56]

"Goddamnit, Marcus, you're weak" Yeah, Marcus isn't going to be as valuable/useful here as in Fe6 with a lot of the units here becoming stronger. That said, if you want to use Marcus, down the line when he gets his personal weapon it'll essentially act as a statbooster item for him. On paper it's supposed to catch him up, but for the most part it doesn't really help; Alen, Lance, and Noah will all probably be far better than him at that point provided they didn't get themselves killed.

[@kratosmvn_]

Interesting can't wait to see his personal weapon down the line. It's feels weird to have a Jagen that's not dominating early on, but also it nice because it forces you to look for other options.

[@isuckatgaming1873]

So after your first video on project ember, i had decided to check it out, as fe6 is my favorite fire emblem game and yet i hadnt seen anything of project ember prior. Aince then i have done a full run on the game and have formed many thoughts on it. My conclusion is thus: project ember is a great fire emblem game in its own right, but is hardly similar to fe6 in the slightest, and comparing the two does a disservice to them both. This may seem strange to say, as project ember (which i will refer to as PE henceforth) uses fe6 as a base, and uses the same characters and maps. However, having played fe6 as much as i have, i know its gameplay by heart and feel that the enemy, weapons, units and overall strategy for PE is nothing similar to fe6, and had i known that going in as opposed to thinking it to just be "imporved fe6" i wouldve enjoyed the game tenfold. - Anything further in this comment may read as a gameplay spoiler, so read at your own discretion - First i would like to metion the visual style - i do think its a beautiful looking game, and in very specific cases, like cath or added characters like lowen, the viual changes are incredible - however, i prefer how fe6 looks, as i feel the majority of PE's art direcction is too dulled, looking like sacred stones does, which has my least favorites visuals in the series. Of course, this is just my opinion, but i do think the visuals wouldve been best with a balance struck like with fe7, as i prefer more vibrant and expressive colors but understand that fe6 lacks good shading, linework and has some oversaturation. Certain maps have all new paths and altered shapes that heavily improved the map design - however, they also added even more enemies to many maps, making some of them more of a slog than unusual. You will notice a ton more mages and flies snooping about in the early game, which is certaimly interesting and could lead to some cool strategy, but sometimes just leads to maps slowing down to a halt. Something that is likely meant to help with this is the increased accuarcy of weapons and the increased power of units which seems to make the game more enemy phase focused - however, the increased volume of enemies, enemy stats, and most importantly the increased risk of getting hit and taking massive damage due to the weapon changes just results in there being more rng you have to play against in order to play fast, and makes the game feel far less consistent. Mamy of the player unit changes are really cool and interesting, such as the addition of heavy cavaliers, however many of the changes are impossible to be able to tell without looking at a game spreadsheet or guide first - for example, lugh and lilina still start as the same class, yet they promote into two completely different things - lugh being a mage knight and lilina becoming a unique class the emulates both a sage and a lord. This is cool, but happens without warning, and theres no way to be able to tell prior to promotion, so if you wanted the mounted utility from mage knight on lilina, or expected lugh to be a sage but now he has a horse and is weak to the common halberds and horseslayers, you'd be screwed after using the promotion item. Other characters are strange as well, like all of the armor knights just having different random weapons on top of their lances, which is fine on its own but becomes confusing when you have all of them deployed yet cant tell them apart without looking at their weapon ranks, as their class name and map sprites display nothing that would tell you who has what. No character exemplifies this more than roy - and in fact, certain changes made to roy in this hack are actually the only thing i would say as objectively bad. For one, he has seven move, which is interesting, but very strange. Fe6 placed heavy priority on the player making smart and strategy use of the rescue mechanic as well as the new support mechanic that benefits roy and his partners more than any other characters to be able to carefully and safely weave your way to the ends of maps, whilst making sure roy still had combat utility with the accurate swords and triple effectiveness rapier as a weapon - meanwhile PE just turns roy into a really good combat unit that you better use or else. That is fine with me, as the goal was to rebalance the game and make it feel more akin to the ds titles which featured far more combat focused lords - but the true issue comes upon promotion, where he now just promotes into eliwoods lord class. Needless to say this comes out of nowhere, as there is nothing telling you roy gains a mount during promotion, but the worse part for me is that it completely forsakes roys identity as a lord in the series and just turns him into eliwood 2 electric boogaloo. While in concept, having your main lord turn into a mounted unit that now makes the most use of the rescue mechanics that the gba games love makes sense, in execution rescuing characters with roy is never useful, as he is an amazing combat unit and is now able to keep up with his best support partners movent, thus none of them need rescuing and nor does he. I want to mention is that bows are really overtuned in this hack. Dont get me wrong, i enjoy using them and playing against them when they are busted like this, it makes strategy so much more interesting when the enemies with bows have so much more range (less interesting in the players hands but still gun to use busted stuff). However, from the perspective of rebalancing, all that bow users needed in fe6 was a stat buff, as their ability to his wyvern knights and pegasi for effective damage is vital, and the bows themselves are quite accurate compared to the axes in the economy. In essence, the bow users became far too improved upon the addition of 2-3 range on all bows. The last thing i want to say is that because the rebalancing of the game makes most every character incredible in some way, it removes some of the allure of using certain characters, such as wendy and ogier/oujay. They seemed to leave sophia in a similar, though improved position as before, which i think was a great decision. In any case, all that I've mentioned (outside of roy) doesn't detract from the game at all from a fire emblem series fan perspective - but from the perspective of someone whos favorite game is fe6, comparing the two only does a disservice to the both of them. They should be judged individually, and their differences are too great.

[@kratosmvn_]

I haven't fully read your comment through as I don't want to spoil myself. But I do appreciate you putting this much thought into it! Once I'm done with the playthrough I'll come back to this and read all the way through! With that being said, while I agree it may feel like a whole new experience, I'm not far enough in the game to assert anything of the kind just yet, but I think comparison doesn't have to be negative. It can be done in a way that doesn't pit one as better than the other (ironic given the title of the video, I know). It can be done in a way to look at how changes (good or bad) were brought to the rom to make it its own thing. I think we all go through a certain level of comparing media to one another especially if it's in the same series. While we want something to stand on its own two feet I think it's simply normal to go: 'Oh FE8 gave you an alternate promotion option, but they removed it in FE9'. And it's normal that you'll prefer one approach over the other, but you can also take a more nuanced approach to comparing both systems and instead of going: 'this bad, this good' you can look at how both affect their respective games, and the pros/cons they bring without passing a judgment of one being superior to the other. Sorry for the long response, but in essence what I'm trying to say is that it's only natural to compare and contrast, but as you said maybe it does a disservice to the overall enjoyment of the product to lean too heavily on comparison. Anywho, I will heed your comment as a warning and try to somewhat detach my preconceived notions and approach with maybe less focus on comparing it in my head. I'll still do the unit analysis and try to highlight some changes cause I think that can be fun, but refrain from judging its quality purely based on FE6 as the blueprint of it.

[@isuckatgaming1873]

@@kratosmvn_ I do hope that I didn't come off as sour or contempt in the comment. I don't intend to prevent you from making the comparisons, and I hope to be understanding of how others choose to play/look at the game. In the end, no matter how you choose to enjoy the game I still enjoy the videos thus far and wait in anticipation for the next!

[@kratosmvn_]

No no, don't worry it was extremely respectful and insightful as a comment. It was just thought provoking and got me to think about how we look at games and how we determine what we as individuals decide what we like and don't like. I do welcome these types of comments so never hesitate :)

[@jrRabet]

Oof. Got your Deick chopped off by relying on old strats, eh? That's embarrassing. ... It probably would have got me too 😂

[@voltron77]

Yo project ember. I hope you play the original because it’s so amazing.

[@kratosmvn_]

I've already played the original, but I do plan to do a playthrough eventually on the channel most likely as an ironman

[@RandyButternubs17]

Hyppeeeee

[@kratosmvn_]

😎😎

[@twixthehyena]

This is totally unrelated to Project Ember, but I never was a fan of Roy's attack animation stabbing upwards, it always felt so awkward to me lol

[@kratosmvn_]

It's cause Roy is a short king, so he has to stab upward to reach the dangerous areas lol

[@ArtUndertheArch]

A lot of these new sprites are really sus

[@kratosmvn_]

What do you mean exactly?

[@alexmorpheus6762]

FF6 PE Romhack >>> FF6 BB Vanilla

[@jensheilman4179]

I never played Fire Emblem 6, only a few chapters probably 7 or 8 years ago. But I started a new run on Fire Emblem 7 when it came to the GBA Emulator for the Switch. It's outstanding how much more quality went into the writing in FE7. Why is the pacing so bad here? The players is just thrown into the situation, there is almost no time to calibrate to the war that's apperantly going on. Also, the characters feel very bland at this point. Yeah, FE7 handles that way more ellegantly in comparison to this game.

[@kratosmvn_]

I do agree that FE7 is the much better game, but to be very charitable to FE6 it probably had one of the roughest development cycle of all the series. It was the first game where the original creator wasn't involved in as he left during the development process and the game was initially supposed to be released on N64, but ended up being entirely scrapped and remade as Binding Blade. There's a lot of history surrounding this period of FE which is super interesting and kind of explains why this game doesn't feel as good as FE7 or FE8. But it did provide the base for a lot of what modern FE is though.

[@jensheilman4179]

@@kratosmvn_ I didn't know all that! Makes sense. Was the initial creator really that involved in the writing, even at that point? I always think important people become more of a director when a series starts to grow into something bigger.

[@kratosmvn_]

@@jensheilman4179 I believe that by that point he was still very involved in the series!

[@alexlandsbergs]

"usually this works" famous last words of anyone assuming a romhack would play the same as the base game.