Better Than A Handle Bar Bag? Miss Grape ILCOSO Review

[@buzzman4860]

I really like the additional bar for head unit and lights.

[@bambicycleadventuremeeting403]

thanks Neil for the test! At BAM! I met many people who tested ILCOSO also on long travels and tough experiences, such as The Atlas Mountain Race, and everyone was happy, without any tech problem. I love its simplicity. ciao

[@DanaErnst]

I used the Ilcoso with a Rogue Panda Gila dry bag and two Voile straps on a 500+ mile tour in Iceland in June and absolutely loved it.

[@erics9214]

Glad Neal pointed it out. I am leery of the whole system being dependent on only two bolts going through a plastic frame. Losing the bolts isn't my concern it is that the plastic will crack or deform, making the whole system useless. I've used an Ortleib bag mounted on Jones bars for thousands of miles. It has been dead simple and reliable.

[@Mattebodra]

Going for the same setup! This bag seems a little under-designed, just to hop on the front harness bag trend in time. There are more proven products in this category I'd go for

[@10xZ00M]

If the carrier frame is made from a reinforced plastic, it should give long service.

[@MissGrapeUfficial]

Hi my name is Michele and just the CEO of Miss Grape and creator of “Ilcoso”. First of all I want to thank you for your comment, it is normal to have doubts when a new product comes out. Before we put “Ilcoso” on the market we tested it for many miles (and many years) under extremely difficult conditions. Before making the molds we did a lot of testing using 3d print prototypes. These prototypes were much much less durable than the fiber we used in the final“Ilcoso”. Among the many bikers who have tried “Ilcoso”I want to mention Omar Di Felice who used it during his crossing of the Gobi Desert, during his round-the-world trip over the Arctic Circle and on his last trip to Antarctica-Unlimidet. Mattia De Marchi has twice raced the Atlas Mountain Race and in numerous other competitions. Sofiane Sheili, always opposed to handlebar bags started using “Ilcoso” and never took it off, not even during his last victory in Kyrgyzstan at the Silk Road Race. Michele Ferro and Dario Gnali who three years ago (with the first prototypes) crossed Nepal on an Enduro bike. I cannot mention everyone but the list would still be very long. True, everything can break but we tried hard to create a product as simple and durable as possible and we are pretty sure we succeeded. Thank you for your attention Michele "Nure" Boschetti

[@hgohlke]

@@MissGrapeUfficial I hope this will be under the Xmas Tree this year including the dry bag

[@yumyumhungry]

I'm finding it hard to use anything but my revelate pronghorn simply because of how their egress pocket integrates with it.

[@BrianRPaterson]

Great timing. I've been eyeing up bar-packs for a while. More food for thought the better. Cheers

[@milesarbour2210]

Great review, Neil. I've been using one a bunch over the last couple months and agree with everything you've shared.

[@tormentisaeternum]

Lovely system, but definitely over my budget for a harness.

[@PiloMegaTron]

Nice vid, Neil, as always... ;) My doubts are on the weight it can carry (without moving from original position). I use two seperate drybags in my Restrap holster, one with my MSR hubba NX1 and my sleepsystem in the other. I never weighed it, but it is quite bulky, especialy with the questar sleeping bag (only in winter or high altitude). What would you say is the max weight the craddle fixation can carry? Especially with techy downhill in mind... Thanks and keep up the good work! :)

[@allyp7]

looks like a great idea. but a bit of a hefty price tag for what you actually get

[@alindberg8001]

I like it but I'm wondering about the longevity.

[@Al_Fresco]

How does it compare to the Salsa Cradle weight-wise??

[@mitmon_8538]

Was there a recommended weight limit, or did I miss that?

[@marcellopacifici]

3kg

[@mitmon_8538]

@@marcellopacifici thanks much!

[@adoj105]

Does this limit the use of aerobars or do you just need to have aerobars that are independent and set them outside of the cradle attachment?

[@raffaelesiciliano5039]

Numeri uno! 🎉😂

[@josemiguelllinasgil5888]

Just what I needed ❤

[@sylv_ain]

Nice alternative to the salsa anything cradle

[@jensthimmvalsted1000]

This is pretty similar to the Aeroe Spider Cradle, - I just received this in the post and can already say it's a pretty great system. It singes down heavy duty straps to attach onto the bar, which means it fits all bar sizes. Quite nice because I have a 35mm bar. Its not as modular as this, but quite simple and sturdy. Definitely a reccomend if you're a 35mm bar user.

[@imcbocian]

But it is almost 2xheavier and without additional bat...

[@gametrigger2543]

@@imcbocian weight: 320g vs 464g; load capacity: 3kg vs 5kg; price: 128€ vs 69€

[@Dash199t]

@@gametrigger2543 This! And if ~150g are your concern, paying almost double the price, than there are definitely others areas where one could spare weight (or just dont care, because we arent talking abount 2kg vs 4kg, but really marginal weights...)

[@gametrigger2543]

@@Dash199t I'm happy with my Aeroe Spider Cradle ;)

[@Will42Will]

I have the Aeroe Spider Cradle and with the mounting hardware straps torqued to the maximum 4 Nm, the whole thing slips down on even a mildly bumpy trail. I gave up on it and the Salsa Anything Cradle has been rock solid on trips to Pisgah.

[@andyjsmallwood]

Looks good, but will it fit on a Surly Moloko bar? Will any harness fit a Moloko🤔?

[@BIKEPACKINGcom]

while I have not tested it, this system is very versatile, so you should be able to find an orientation that works for that bar.

[@justindean4464]

Great , should be getting mine from Italy today just what I needed thanks for great review Niel 👍

[@andyjsmallwood]

Thanks Neil. It's on my shopping list👍

[@magnetarklkl2012]

I like the idea of Ilcoso but it seems to fit in the category of a "new" product that couldn't get past its launch. It is always out of stock and it won't ship outside Europe. I suspect it will end up being a failure as customers will look for alternatives.

[@nateisright]

Dude, was that you riding down 306 toward Hwy24 with your feet on the handle bars?!

[@paid9mm]

I’ll be honest, at first I thought this was a Louise v2 rip off. But can definately some quite a few improvements

[@buzzman4860]

Wondering about this on a surely corner bar. Any ideas? TY

[@andrewnicholas7410]

Any input on how it compares to the rockfeist barjam? That’s been to one that I think suits my needs, it this looks intriguing

[@JakeLuke308]

Two bolts, teeny ones at that, seems too little to carry a load over rough terrain for several years. I use a dry bag and 3 Voile straps just to be safe and simple.

[@caminoinc]

35mm in the works...😁

[@b.h.84]

Whats the name of that light in 4:31?:)

[@stevenhu202]

That price.... Ouch... Its maybe $5 of injection molded parts.

[@jonathankamp1089]

Maybe a bit overpriced, but price is not only material, it's also design (=many man hours and failed prototypes)

[@hupo]

I 3D printed my own for about 3 dollars in parts/material lol

[@telunter]

Neil, what brake hoods are you using?

[@BIKEPACKINGcom]

TRP RRl SR levers: trpcycling.com/product/rrl-sr/

[@JochenSteglich]

I‘m not a big fan of plastic on my bike. That’s why I went with the Blackburn Outpost Elite Handlebar Roll. A little heavy but reliable in any situation.

[@brif56]

Same here, the Blackburn Outpost Elite is a super solid setup, just set and forget.