BETTER THAN GOLF R? 2022 Audi S3 Review

[@TheStraightPipes]

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[@michaelmakgatho1437]

Can you please review the a45s?

[@pk5871]

You guys should try out the 2022 rs3 its apparently a beast and torque split rear differential which is basically drift mode.

[@jjeter1]

Ok Audi S3 or Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport?

[@rameshaudoba6660]

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[@rameshaudoba6660]

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[@williamcorwin5526]

Just in case Audi doesn’t think your road test sells cars, I ordered an S3 after your review. Of course I’m 78 years old and probably loosing it a little. Thanks for the motivation to play boy street racer.

[@tanman2813]

This is the best thing I’ve ever read

[@nick4597]

William, you're a bada**. Hope you enjoy your S3 in the best way possible young man!!!

[@TheRakeshArora]

Awesome. Ordered one today

[@TheMILVSCR]

If you're not on social media already, please create an account so we can celebrate you and your purchase. Rip it and send it William!

[@videogazer801]

This car sucks, you will be paying thousands on maintenance and repairs for this car after the warranty expires. Looks and performance is fine, but quality and reliability is pure junk.

[@manuelzapata8545]

Growing up in Brooklyn NY this was always my attainable dream car. It's small and quick, looks great, easy for parking.

[@jonlosito2004]

Ayyoo.. my Grandma’s sister lives in Whitestone ..

[@dazzell3851]

@@jonlosito2004 what a coincidence 🤯

[@tyronew3532]

@@dazzell3851 🤯

[@jonlosito2004]

@@dazzell3851 😱😱

[@xFlared]

Bensonhurst?

[@Syrinx-Priest]

I would take the Golf R over this, but not because of the manual, but because of the hatch. When I was looking to upgrade my old Mk7 Golf R, I tested an S3. The drive was great, but the tiny trunk space and back seat were deal breakers.

[@stevedawson1280]

Yeah I had an S3 hatch and I’d never ever buy the sedan. You lose so much practicality

[@dorkultra]

hatches are the bomb

[@Jeremy-yi7zm]

With the back seats up, the Audi trunk is actually larger than the Golf R I think. I had a MK7 Golf R and now have a 8V RS3. Can actually fit quite a bit in the trunk of the Audi. Can fit my kid's travel stroller with no problem. Back seat I think is the same? I have the same child seat installed in my RS3 that I had with my Golf R, no problems fitting in back seat.

[@anthonycbrown1952]

Golf R is an incredible package of qualities. If VW fixes the Infotainment / HVAC controls for model year 2023 it will be unstoppable.

[@jeanmcdavid8292]

Owner of a Golf R MK8 for a week now the new AWD system is just insanely fun! Thats and the Hatch is a great upgrade versus a S3.

[@donteadoss]

I like the sedan versions but wished the Americas got hatch versions as well - seeing them reminds me of a suped-up Jetta at times. - And it’s still crazy to me how Audi subtly started the large grille trend in North America, so long ago, in the early 2000s.

[@Isaiahsucre]

I have an 2010 A3 hatch I wish it would return

[@0303calvin]

So Hatchback RS3 isn't available for America 😫

[@0303calvin]

@@THESLlCK that's crazy... WHO

[@coolzhowful]

The Slick 21 years old and agreed

[@0303calvin]

@@coolzhowful 😎✊

[@snakeeyes9246]

The A3/S3/RS3 needed such a redesign from the last generation, and they hit the nail on the head with it. Great car, great review.

[@user-ve9tu5rv6e]

Except the new RS3 which was once clean and understated for a super hatch has now become tacked on with colossal amounts of glossy plastic and gaudy creases that puts the current CTR to shame.

[@YusufGinnah]

@@user-ve9tu5rv6e Exactly! It used to be the ultimate Q-Car, but now with all that shiny black plastic vents on the diffuser, etc it looks real cheapskate and chavvy... 😎👍🏼

[@co3476]

The new rs3 is one of the most disgusting looking car ive ever seen with the shiny plastic fake vents and oversized grilles

[@closg9309]

That chicken nugget shifter SUCKS

[@J3n555]

I really prefer the older gen to this new facelift. Same for the golf mk8

[@stolas666]

Wait, no comment on lane centering? That's what stood out from tsp reviews. Please don't forget to rate that feature. It's the only thing I'm interested in

[@TheStraightPipes]

Forgot to mention. It's really really good

[@jonlosito2004]

@@TheStraightPipes you guys never even did the visor test.. what’s up with that??

[@07BSPtC]

I enabled it in my mk7.5 gti. I love it wife hates it.

[@aamirqz]

@@jonlosito2004 no cupholder test either!

[@Dryloch]

On the fuel symbol the side the pump handle is on usually shows where the filler door is.

[@RobHTech]

It does. At least every car I've ever driven has the little arrow next to the fuel gauge.

[@stevenkutschat]

I mean it's an Audi ... it's on the right

[@chefcjnobles1680]

The bigger question is who with a license that drives a modern day car doesn’t know this? Keep them away from me on the road.

[@120DEA]

Is it just me or did we miss the Visor Test? LOL I scrolled back thru and I can't find it. Love you guys! Keep up the great work!

[@07BSPtC]

If it had the torque vectoring I would say yes. For that reason, more power in golf r and lower weight I would say golf r is better. Plus you can get golf r in the states with a manual.

[@ervinkiller]

As soon as Yuri pressed on the gas in the cliche corner you can see the fear in Jacobs eyes.

[@atmartens]

I’d easily take the Audi. Don’t care for the looks of the VW, and a “sleeper” sedan has always been my favorite.

[@geraldtone5914]

Who ya sleeping on with 300hp? A corolla?

[@GerlachReacts]

I thought the last gen Golf R looked handsome, but the new one is 🤮. S3, please.

[@dude-yg9ez]

@@geraldtone5914 what are you taking about? You sound like a spoiled rich boy who has Lamborghinis

[@vomErsten]

@@geraldtone5914 It's not about power, it's about gearing.

[@F83.M4]

@@geraldtone5914 don't speak kid you are probably riding a bike to work clown

[@EricAtMazda]

Between the lack of an MMI control wheel, that shifter, the piano black, the worse interior plastics, random fake side rear bumper vents, no red interior option beyond stitching, and god knows what else I’ve forgotten, I’ll be keeping my 2015 S3 and other pre-Dieselgate designed Audis as long as I can.

[@youngbrevy]

I’d still take the S3 over the GolfR.This is a GREAT review, you guys nailed this one. I prefer Luxury performance sedans over hot hatches.

[@nooba2064]

You call Audi luxury 😂🤣

[@youngbrevy]

@@nooba2064 Audi calls Audi Luxury bro. Take it up with them.

[@ChickenMcPussy]

@@nooba2064 because it is luxury

[@nooba2064]

@@ChickenMcPussy Audi is not luxury at all compared to Benz or BMW or Volvo, its so cheaply built and Seats are horrible, new audis are Also known for many electrical problems, coming from personal experience from Audi TT coupé 2012, Audi a6 2020 and Audi a4 2021

[@nooba2064]

@@youngbrevy sure but if u Want a car thats gonna be more in THE repair shop than on the road, Audi is perfect

[@jamielaw3881]

Nice motor but the 2016-2019 face lift model looks a lot better more snug to the ground interior better quality and you get the flat bottomed steering wheel as well as standard 👍

[@android175]

Personally i don’t like the last gens interior. Materials are nicer actually, but the design feels boring. Lots of empty space in the design. And the round ovals are weak. The tech is much better in this one and the design is much more modern.

[@HCG]

Truth

[@volkssturm9694]

100% true, I have the 2018 post facelift S3, and the exterior looks is sleek and aggressive, timeless looking. Love my flat bottom steering wheel and the diamond stitched leather bucket racing seats are so snug and comfortable. The car is a rocket even in stock form, with a simple stage 2tune and downpipes you are near 400 HP and running 12.0 Quarters, sub 4.0 sec 0-60

[@biggabenne]

a set of coilovers and that thing is a beast, body roll from the first 2 clips resolved

[@RedlineGaming007]

Power and Torque figures are right on top of the TypeR

[@aaron_manna]

And it’s much faster in everyday use

[@bodmonjay]

deadass thought that redline reviews made a gaming channel 😭

[@louisnguyen6038]

@@bodmonjay LMAOOOOO

[@xavierdupuis8]

Lol, wait for the new one.

[@ireckon7351]

And it can actually put the power down

[@JecuskyGarrett]

I think it's cool that Audi is keeping performance sedans alive. It's a shame that we're seeing less and less of them.

[@ScottZ370]

You think? We've got A35, CLA45, S3, M235i GC, RS3, I30N Sportback, Octavia VRS

[@maynarddrivesfast804]

@@ScottZ370 Right?! I have no idea what this guy is talking about. There's LOADS of new performance sedans out now.

[@Justin_GFM]

I think Dodge and Kia are doing better jobs at keeping performance sedans alive than Audi, at least for the "common man" who wouldn't want an Audi but wouldn't mind a Scat Pack or Stinger GT1

[@JecuskyGarrett]

@@Justin_GFM Except Dodge and Kia are planning on discontinuing the Charger and Stinger, so...

[@vomErsten]

@@JecuskyGarrett Cut Dodge some slack, they've been building that same car for 13 years and it's long overdue for a replacement, lol. I think it's coming back, just as an electric car.

[@pianoekket]

Such a beautiful car. I myself wanted an rs3 but they are so expensive so I settled for a Golf R. Even though Audi is much more good looking I think the golf is overall cheaper, and they are quick!

[@katef297]

Great review very helpful, currently car shopping for Audi.

[@TheStraightPipes]

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[@Sickwitit18]

I haven't thought about those GI Joe memes in so long! So glad y'all are from the pre-youtube era 😂

[@TheStraightPipes]

Ebaums let’s go

[@Sickwitit18]

@@TheStraightPipes newgrounds and Break too!

[@kristofk1902]

What’s nice about cars that have the power of an s3 is that you can floor it and have fun without getting to straight to jail speeds. You get to enjoy open throttle for longer

[@leester92]

I'm right there with you. IMO 300-350 hp is the sweet spot for being able to have fun + not go straight to jail

[@superchargedsteve3411]

I have an S4 as my daily driver and absolutely love it. That said the S3 as spec'd in your video @ $50k US is just too much. I'd save the $15k and get the Golf R or just step up to the S4 as I did.

[@schmoestudy]

Or S5 sportback if the argument is “hatchback” practicality

[@tim3172]

Fact check: The R with no options is 44k. (50 - 44 is 6, not 15) "Save the 15K" Derp. The S4 as equipped like the S3 would be 60k. "Just spend an extra 10 grand" Derp.

[@CarsOfPennsylvania]

At that point just go up to the S5 sportback

[@gabecarreon7671]

Extra $15k for the lights on the infotainment, I guess. Or knobs.

[@Ultimatengineer]

I want to like the S3 but I just think the numbers aren't really S like. I have a tuned B8.5 A4, with JUST an ECU tune and my numbers are higher than the S3. And the S3 is still a turbo 4 cylinder. Even though it's not the same engine as the A4, it's still somewhat the same.

[@hlf_coder6272]

It’s unreal they removed the gear stick. I had a 2017 S3. They also got rid of the extremely useful circular vents. You can’t put the screen in the dash which gave the interior a classic clean look. No more flat bottom steering wheel. It feels like a step backwards to me

[@riskybisness]

Have a 2016 S3, the interior just looks weird in this. Did you see the interior door handles ? Gone are the perfectly designed subtly lit from the 8v. Now its a pull tab from a can of cheap tuna.

[@Lukemasonmedia]

No more flat bottom wheel is lame affff

[@stealthhtm23]

you CAN get a flat bottom, but not with the lane keep assist option, as there are sensors in the round wheel.

[@HeirKrauser]

@@stealthhtm23 Yup, my 2022 has the flat bottom steering wheel

[@stealthhtm23]

@@HeirKrauser my 23’ has a flat bottom as well 👌

[@jjtorres3734]

I'm subscribed to this channel bc it's so freaking entertaining, there's no KZbin without straight pipes

[@TheStraightPipes]

18 laps left. MAX or LEWIS 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

[@junaidahmed9412]

Max, Merc have thrown it away by not pitting I think

[@YusufGinnah]

You know the _'R'_ gonna be a better car overall... Always better a flagship than a mid-ranger... And drift mode + 6fwd too... 😎👍🏼

[@TheStraightPipes]

Max!

[@ryanlawton9666]

Finally a car I've driven! It's nice to see that my "dangerously quick" is their "decently quick"

[@X22GJP]

If that car is dangerously quick for you, perhaps you made the wrong choice?

[@maynarddrivesfast804]

Hey Jacob/Yuri, can you fit your child's seats in the back without having the front seats pushed all the way forward?

[@seano51]

Forward facing yes but rear facing no.

[@MoonBro96]

Was debating between this and the Golf R as I was looking to upgrade from a MK 7.5 GTI, went with the S3 because even though the R is more powerful (not by much, but still) and has more sporty options like the torque vectoring and all that, the interior didn’t hold up for the price they are going for. But the real deal breaker was the climate controls. If I’m gonna daily a car I don’t want to have to screw around with menus to change the temperature or fan speed, I just want a few physical buttons, is that really so much to ask?

[@MySonicDragon]

The golf R interior makes it a non starter. I would probably literally buy one if it wasn't for that. As it is even though this is a downgraded interior in some sense from my A4 I still want one.

[@gustavogo2915]

How much were you able to go under msrp? Here in Illinois I am able to go 10% under msrp.

[@adamg6849]

@@MySonicDragonI have had the golf r for a month now. Unless you live with it can’t comment about the interior. It’s super easy to learn and works awesome. I’m 50 too and the tech is so much fun once u take about 5 minutes of your life to learn it. Awesome daily. Hatch is great. Always have something need to toss in. S3 trunk was a hard no for me. No heated steering wheel at 58k. A joke. No vented seats. A joke. Less horsepower. Inferior awd system. List goes on.

[@philippemadore843]

Thanks Audi for giving us real exhaust tips

[@itsssc9930]

These boys have grown old...and i have grown young from a child and the videos are still awesome

[@7EPLO]

I would still go with the golf r. Just want that manual honestly.

[@X22GJP]

For a daily driver, I'll take DSG any day. Drove manual for decades, but driving these days is more a chore unless you are specifically out just for fun. Besides, DSG lets you control the gears yourself anyway. Maybe you should go for manual windows too?

[@CPMUNSEY]

That’s some of the best sounding fake in cabin engine sound I’ve heard. Sounds like the RS3 5cyl sounds to me.👌🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@heavyjoystick2352]

I was looking for this comment, I cant unhear it :))

[@volkssturm9694]

S3's last gen 8V also has the "cabin enhanced engine noise", I also have the resonator delete on mine, best sounding 4 banger along with the WRX STI

[@ryo9419]

I looked at the vw golf r before this, I'm looking for something with similar specs at maybe a more affordable price. Also putting maintenance and fuel cost in consideration too

[@wilhelm0022]

I'd take a Golf R over an S3 just because of the Drift Mode and because it has the 4th (less problematic) generation of the EA888 engine.

[@greyhoundanglickychrt5537]

Golf R all the way

[@rlsedition]

Don't the Golf R and S3 shared the same engine?

[@donywahlberg]

@@rlsedition Kind of. The Audi engines and the Golf R engine are based on the same design but they reinforce them and change combustion variables to get more reliable power. Golf R in particular has reinforced or forged parts despite being the same exact schematic as the GTI.

[@jeanmcdavid8292]

Receive my Golf R Wednesday and the car is so Freaking fun!!! The new AWD system is just Amazing.

[@rlsedition]

@@jeanmcdavid8292 Don't dispute the fun-to-drive of the R model, but hate the new gauges without knobs.

[@daveholmes5028]

Love the content, guys! Please add a golf clubs test. Do golf clubs fit in the trunk?

[@PotatosPotatoes]

Dear Audi, We want the hatch in the states. Best regards, NA Audi people that don't like sedans

[@nickpappas4133]

Don’t forget we want a manual transmission to go with that hatch.

[@nextleveljourney6612]

Answer: that’s simply the Golf R - Audi is the luxury version of VW

[@PotatosPotatoes]

@@nextleveljourney6612 My wife has a Golf. I'd prefer the RS3 in hatch. Driving a A6 now and want a smaller car, but still want the ability to haul stuff. The RS3 sedan is so tiny that that trunk is pointless.

[@P4SDetails]

That S3 is such a perfect car. It’s the most amazing mix of performance and utility. Not affordable, but it would make for a dope commuter.

[@crimsonsw21]

I'd only get the this over the R because of the physical buttons. I don't know why Audi won't sell the Hatch S3 in America that's the best of both worlds!

[@MonkeyMD3]

Rs3 hatch ftw

[@thedilznick]

If rs3 hatch was in America I’d have sacrificed everything in my life for one already.

[@harisjaved1379]

Funny. I was just looking to buy an RS3, but also checking out S3 to save some money. In the end I went with RS3

[@francogalati1005]

Thanks guys I just ordered my S3 thanks to you guys amazing véhicule a nice sleeper car . 0 to 60 in 4.3 seconds is great

[@TheStraightPipes]

Congrats

[@co3476]

I dont understand the new shifter at all. On the old one you can pull it back in D to go into S mode instantly. I cant imagine doing that with that little thing lol.

[@GabrielBoehm]

I've been debating between an S3 (or RS3) vice the Golf R. I really want a manual, but so much of the comfort and usability of the R is getting really bad feedback. My answer for now is to keep my tuned (just over 300 hp) A4 that has a manual and quattro. Saving a bunch of money too

[@amrdel2730]

U have a audi a4

[@kushing8]

Can’t believe Canada is not allowing the 2022 RS3 to be sold here because of new regulations, good thing I took great care of my TTRS. I guess my TT is stock with me for another 4 years or so😁.

[@benji376]

9:30 the gas tank is on the same side as the hose on the gas station icon. you don't need to pull up the range to see that

[@cedrick305]

I know Audi is part of the VW group but certain angles reminds me so much of a current Jetta.

[@porkchopsandwiches8363]

Love the reference to me in this video :)

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

The engine and 7-speed dual clutch are great in the Golf R, and it's great in this S3 :)

[@Volksbubs]

Im still reeling over 5:26 great vid as always! Love this car I would love this as my daily

[@gw7624]

3:45 Holy overhang.

[@davidsaska2617]

Those GI Joe clips are great. Brings me right back to my high school days.

[@mattlau]

Such a beautiful design. Wish the 2023 RS3 came to Canada

[@slow8r]

Curious why didn't you guys talk about the Torque Vectoring Rear Diff that the Mk8 Golf R has but you can't get in the S3?

[@im.weasel]

Love Audi. Love VW. But I would 100% still get a golf r over this. I just love hatchbacks too much.

[@fernandovazquezcueto9606]

In Europe you can get this as a hatchback.

[@im.weasel]

@@fernandovazquezcueto9606 that's sick.

[@paulklp8262]

@@im.weasel Audi hatches look kinda dumb. Sedans are where its at for Audis.

[@veselingramatikov]

Skoda RS 2.0TSI DCT 245hp for 40.000$ here in Europe. Currently the best value.

[@johnforbes4795]

One small comment and one bigger one.: You mentioned the strange circular "button" on the console for adjusting the stereo volume. I would note that there is also a nice "rotary wheel" on the steering wheel that adjusts the volume as well. I pretty much ignore the console button and use wheel on the steering wheel. The bigger comment is that I went shopping for a 2024 VW Golf R at years end to replace my 2016 VW Golf R (6-speed manual). I tried several VW dealers in both Northern and Southern California and they were all asking a $15,000 premium for the Golf R over MSRP. One dealer even had a "leftover" 2023 VW Golf R and was asking $15,000 over list for that one as well. Meanwhile, I decided to test drive the Audi S3 at the Audi dealership which was 2 blocks away from the VW dealer with both the 2024 and 2023 model VW Golf R at $15,000 over list. I had test driven a 2016 Audi S3 prior to buying the 2016 Golf R and just liked driving the Golf R more. BUT, the Audi dealer had a fairly loaded 2023 Audi S3 Premium Plus and was willing to talk a deal. I was very impressed after the test drive (much nicer interior and had the adaptive suspension, moonroof, and killer Bang and Olufsen stereo that were not available when I bought the 2016 Golf R. AND, the piped-in exhaust sound was, in my opinion, much better than my Golf R synthetic sound. Bottom line, I got the Audi S3 for $8500 below MSRP which looked much better than paying $62,000 for a Golf R (about a $10,000 savings in the instance). Yes, I no longer have the 6-speed manual, but this sucker is plenty fast and fun to drive, more fun than I remember of the S3 from my 2016 test drive.

[@johndavidson3424]

This new Audi A3 is the car that I want to own

[@dirckxd]

I can only recommend it as a satisfied A3 hatchback (European) owner since August.

[@v8713]

I've had mine for a few months. It truly checks all the boxes when it comes to a fun daily driver!

[@v12-s65]

We need an RS3 review of this!

[@aj.1505]

Unfortunately it isn’t out yet in North America aha but should be in a few months hopefully :)

[@bobdell2851]

@@aj.1505 very excited for it, always thought rs3 was overpriced for that abysmal interior

[@aj.1505]

@@bobdell2851 Aha agreed but this new interior is very promising! I don’t mind the exterior at all either I find it quite nice actually lol but a lot of people seem to disagree

[@runfunmc64]

@@bobdell2851 yeah i test drove an rs3 a few months ago and tbh i thought my gti interior was better. i couldn’t stand the circular air vents and the overall vibe

[@Alfred.yu326]

@@aj.1505 months ? In Canada here they said probably won't hit dealers til 2023 or later. Got myself a new 2020 and honestly love the 8v look with the proper shifter more. The only thing I prefer from the new one is the new infotainment system.

[@krud6929]

Love the old GI Joe! Great reference!!

[@tiborbiszak6027]

Great review guys. I love my 2020 S3 despite the back seat lack of room, and I'd take it over a Golf R any day but that's me. You mentioned the upshift problem a couple of times and previous models, like the 2020, allow you to engage "manual" mode by moving the shifter horizontally, where it will not shift up unless you do it yourself with the paddles or the shifter. Does this 2022 model not have this feature, or did I miss it in the review?

[@fatality2006]

was thinking the same thing. no way Audi would take that away, it defeats the purpose of having paddle shifts. on all Audis with paddle shifters i’m pretty sure it’s the same. If it’s in auto mode, you’re only downshifting to get the extra grunt to overtake and stuff. of course it’ll automatically shift up gear if you’re still in auto-mode.

[@riskybisness]

Yeah they missed this, likely also didn't know the easy way to shift from D to S mode for transmission

[@SOUPrayer]

WHERE IS VISOR TEST. Im disappointed :(

[@dis6900]

I had a previous gen S3 (2016) and it was so underrated. Could keep up with 5.0 mustangs and C6 Vette's. Such a sleeper car and I can imagine the new S3 is even better. Audi reliability wasn't great though, which was the reason I sold it. You guys and Savagegeese are my two favorite car KZbinrs out...keep up the great work!

[@bacvain]

Hey dude you mentioned reliability just curious what issues you had with your 2016 S3. Thx

[@dis6900]

@@bacvain the water pump had to be replaced twice, a coolant leak that took 3 attempts to fix and the thermostat went as well.

[@christianwold]

@@bacvain me2 😄

[@dis6900]

@@redaudiesthr3378 yours sounds like it’s been more reliable than mine was. Went with a Mazda and it’s been bulletproof for 3 years now. 🇯🇵 >🇩🇪

[@vomErsten]

@@dis6900 Water pump failures are the meme with VAG cars, lol.

[@jonlosito2004]

U guys haven’t done the RS Q7 review yet. When’s that review coming out?? Edit: Unfortunately… the Mercedes AMG a35 sedan is discontinuing in the US market. Matt Maran told us.

[@chrisszura9647]

One thing I don’t understand is the packaging on this Audi. The golf R has heated and ventilated seats and heated rear seats. The Audi which is supposedly VW’s luxury brand is not available. Only heated front seats. And also no heated steering wheel in the Audi vs the Golf R. If I am paying 15k more, these features should be on the S3

[@SonOfTheDawn515]

That's why I've also gone with VW. Get a lot more for the money in this price category.

[@sarahpolland6514]

Valid point!

[@jerrymarski5922]

You guys deserve the subs and the likes, great reviews.

[@pokerfred68]

I had a 2017 S3 and it was a terrific car. At that time, the S3 was quicker than the Golf R. Not sure why a VW is quicker than and Audi for 2022. RS3 will solve that problem. I might take the S3 over the R just for the interior. The 10k delta might be worth it. VW offers more for the money including heated steering wheel and cooled seats.

[@senoow4215]

If u can afford it def the s3

[@slow8r]

Sure it may have been quicker than a manual Golf R but DSG vs DSG the Golf R for Mk7 and Mk7.5 is quicker than the 8V/8V.5 S3. This is because both cars had exact same drivetrain and power figures year to year as well as the fact that the Golf R is actually lighter.

[@Chair991]

@@slow8r Golf R was lighter by like 10kg, definitely not a difference, if anything I always saw the S3's getting slightly better 1/4 mile and 0-60 times.

[@frozencold199]

the interior just makes this 100x better than the golf, fuck capacitive touch buttons

[@jbowgo9599]

Is the new Haptic Touch entertainment system in the Golf R / GTI a dealbreaker? Is the HK inferior to the Fender tuner? Is the wireless Apple Play seamless? The driving dynamics sound like a given. But is that enough at the relatively high price range? I’m old but would still take the R over the S.

[@chrisdooley6468]

RS3 or TTRS please. That’s all I need. That sweet in-line 5cyl is just glorious

[@mattsee45]

They really tried so hard to make it sound like an inline 5

[@bulletproof1395]

Love you guys and your reviews, but the word is "anyway". "Anyways" is not a word!! 😀

[@rwac07]

The previous gen looked so much nicer, this one looks overly aggressive.

[@HCG]

Yeah it’s trying way too hard

[@williamcorwin5526]

How can a car look overly aggressive. That’s like a woman who is too good looking.

[@michabartnickikiliszek1013]

Why 306 not 310? Did you measure it on the dynamometer and it has already lost four horses?

[@firehawk22]

1.43 million subs, doesn't know how the share button works? C'mon Yuri! 😃 Gotta go S3 though. But I'm creeping up on the middle-aged crowd at this point and I like a little extra room. The Golf R would have been the easy choice for me 10 years ago.

[@nolanlee4733]

can you guys do a review on the volvo v60 cross country?

[@dustinlou4695]

This is a significantly better looking vehicle than the golf, so it has that going for it. Audi doesn't miss on styling

[@Wonderboy168]

Always so much fun watching your videos! Keep up the great work!

[@vomErsten]

Not enough new or better with this car to make me upgrade from my 8V S3, and quite a few things got a little worse. Other than the engine and diff, the drawbacks displayed here are going to also dampen my enthusiasm for the RS3.

[@slappadabass1977]

Not if you're in Canada. The RS3 isn't coming here.

[@rafaelriverasanchez8101]

I m literally debating on wat my next is going to be and this vidoe just makes it possible for me to make the best decision

[@toweronthehill]

Previous generation looks better! Love the Audi S3 and RS3 series cars!

[@erdogankaplan1816]

I got this s3 latelly navarra blue chrome details and amazing rims, power amazing, cornering over 200kmh feels like you are in train. Also am I the only one who sees the s1 looking fenders? Looks amazing in my opinion. Also I have previous version A3 tdi, I didnt sell it, interior exterior very much different. But both amazing. New version back seats have more room but less visibility because of s seats.

[@AndrewBeveridge461]

Previous version looked so much better.

[@pmmulhol]

I was really pumped for this car but the screens kill it. Let's go back to analog dials please! I'll stick with my 2019 for now, thanks.

[@digitalgulby]

I owned the previous gen one and sold it due to the handling dynamics. It was a great little car but you just couldn’t hoon it really. I hope someday they find a way to make Haldex something that can tear up the corners. Don’t think it’s there yet.

[@keithgatzke5390]

The new Golf R dumps the Haldex :)

[@victorchen8484]

@@keithgatzke5390 it's still haldex loll just a new rear diff

[@digitalgulby]

@@victorchen8484 correct. It’s still haldex just an improved one.

[@blasphemicwhale]

You can get aftermarket haldex controllers for the previous gen that can customize the split and make the power distribution however you want (within the physical limitations of course)

[@digitalgulby]

@@blasphemicwhale I knew that but never felt like taking the plunge

[@Coronerlex]

With the new MK8 GTI Golf R it doesn't auto upshift if you're in sport or race (and in manual mode), was this auto upshifting even in dynamic? That's the sportiest mode in Audis right?

[@danielvazquez7139]

Nice video and as always nice audi

[@dontbethatguy783]

i love not watching videos for a week and then coming back and yuri has new hair again

[@s_________b]

Absolutely criminal we don't get the Audi 3 series in hatchback form here in NA. The A3 in sedan form is so cramped and the trunk is comically small and the hatchback version for a car this size is FAR superior. Come on Audi, wake up!! Give us more hatchbacks!

[@porkys1029]

Why wont they give us the hatchback version in NA!?!?!?

[@CarsOfPennsylvania]

The S3 should be making more power not less than the Golf R. Weird decision to make

[@dubsessed9790]

Agreed. And if they were worried that would put it too close to the RS3 power levels, then they could easily bump the RS3 numbers up without any real effort. I just can't see their logic here.

[@MonkeyMD3]

Outside of the 1% enthusiasts, most are not cross shopping the 2

[@curtr.5083]

Great video guys, thanks!

[@Sold_a_dummy]

This is a difficult sell to me when the R exists. Maybe the buyers of the two are different. I know I'd consider both but go for the R. The R is underrated, power wise. Why is auto upshift such a complaint. It's downshifting that matters more when driving hard. I suppose it's that one instance when the driver wants to bang off the rev-limiter instead of shifting up then down again?? Makes no sense

[@RandyAugustus]

You don’t want to shift mid-corner;up or down.

[@Sold_a_dummy]

@@RandyAugustus So would you just bang it off the limiter mid corner? Bear with me here. By _mid corner_ won't I be accelerating out of the turn? If it downshifts mid corner then I'm slowing and doing something wrong. A DSG shifts so fast that it won't upset the car. Am I wrong? Downshifts definitely help braking and balance etc. The computer knows shift points way better than drivers. Ahh! Autocross! It would be shit in autocross. In this case it would kill times because when the driver expects to slow the car, it suddenly upshifts.

[@MaxMax-th7uz]

Audi S3 saloon looks much rarer sight than a golf or hatchback A3 ! Saloon for me especially in lime green !

[@timothycoyne5874]

Good review, thanks guys! I'd take the Golf R over the S3. I like the looks of both cars. I like how sleek the S3 looks, but the Golf R gives you the manual option and the utility of a hatchback. I doubt the infotainment design and haptic feedback buttons in the VWs will be an issue once a driver gets used to them.

[@Nagim-d3z]

there's an S3 hatch

[@schmoestudy]

Or step up to S5 sportback

[@07BSPtC]

@@Nagim-d3z not in the us

[@jjchockey]

S3 any day. Looks way better inside and out, nicer quality interior, and the biggest reason.... it actually has physical buttons!!!

[@kareemg24]

The 2018 one performs and looks much better

[@diogodimas8677]

I would take a S3 hatch over the Golf R, mostly because in my country the S3 is actually cheaper than Golf R by like 5k. However, if i really was looking to buy one, i would get a used MK7.5 Golf R, better interior and cheaper.

[@RobHTech]

OK. So Quattro and 4Motion aren't always just interchangeable terms. Audi customizes each Quattro system to each specific vehicle. And, as the S3 has transversely mounted engine, it uses a Haldex (Borg/Warner) system, as does the Golf 8 R, which comes with a limited slip front diff. 2022 S3 uses Borg/Warner Haldex system with up to 85% to rear, FWD biased, reactionary, All Haldex systems uses transversely mounted engines, center diff. is not required, has open diff. at front and rear, with Haldex system in rear diff., turns on-off on-demand, standard is 90-10 F-R and able to switch to 50-50 max to rear, thus is FWD biased and reactionary; Haldex is lighter than Torsen; Haldex is NOT full-time AWD; Torsen has engine moved forward, reducing handling; new Haldex (2022) can split up to 85% (possibly) to rear and has front LSD. To upgrade to active torque vectoring full-time AWD Quattro requires buying in at the higher price bracket vehicles that use Torsen systems.

[@persiashahdi5215]

"with up to 85% to rear" I'd like to see where you get that from. I've continuously heard that even the newest Haldex technology can only send at most 50% to the wheel. And the whole trick is that it can send 100% of that 50% to one particular rear wheel. But I've never heard of it sending 85% to the rear.

[@chobocops]

Wait i thought the mk8 golf r ditched the haldex for a new system

[@DarthChewie]

MK8 R has a rear diff, not front. And Haldex is max 50% rear, not 85%. 85% is on the full-time Quattro systems.

[@RobHTech]

@@DarthChewie yes. The 2022 S3 no longer uses Haldex, and can distribute 85% to rear. Transverse mounted does not get true Quattro, in my opinion. Haldex works great for most people. To get what I'm talking about one needs to go Audi and higher price bracket. I'm not referring to the MK8R in that regard.

[@RobHTech]

@@chobocops It did. Well, it's a Magna system. It's still only 50-50, but at rear can use up to 100% to either axle or anywhere in between. To get the Torsen system, true Quattro, you need to go Audi high trim levels.

[@benramin7797]

Don’t give him the stick!! (You don’t need the arrow by the gas gauge… the side of the pump icon that the gas nozzle is on serves the same purpose.)