Better Than Pull-Ups For Back?

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[@DatsWhatHeSaid]

An "excise" is a tax, my dude. The word you should be saying is exERcise.

[@almabe7608]

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[@user-bx4zq7fx7e]

Perfect to finish off a pull workout imo, just keep going with these for a minute or two and you'll be properly done

[@elkhisinio]

Weigthed inverted rows are incredible for building an inmense Upper back, seriously, they are top notch

[@jiggym4n]

Chuck in some ring face pulls while you're at it

[@tvujtatata]

@@elkhisinio but not practical

[@adamgates1142]

@tvujtatata You throw on a backpack backwards. A rather minor inconvenience but to each their own.

[@Skirk84]

Pull ups, heavy rows and then these... Gold

[@sonvu4102]

Inverted rows are more difficult than people believe. Never under estimate such an exercice. Excellent for back muscles and core. You're absolutely right. Thanks for sharing that video. Very instructive

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Yes they’re more difficult than I expected when I tried it

[@sonvu4102]

@Akotski-ys9rr Just try to touch the bar with your chest... You'll tell me...

[@uddhavn]

Best calisthenics channel on youtube

[@xdlilmanhaider8407]

"don't blame the exercise, take an honest look at your intensity" 🔥🔥🔥

[@nickzardiashvili624]

I definitely thought IR were for beginners who couldn't do pull-ups yet. Then I stumbled onto Gymnastic Method's video where he challenges you to do 15 clean reps with legs elevated in tempo with him counting. Piece of cake, I though, and promptly proceeded to fail. By about rep 10-12 my chest wasn't touching the bar anymore, I was reduced to partials. I started working on them and lo and behold, just like GM promised, it improved my scapula strength dramatically. Deadlits, rows, bench press - anything that needs scapula control improved, not to mention it allowed me to unlock clean chest to bar pull-ups.

[@nigelmaccuver9122]

Those ring rows are hard, in fact they are unstable as well from feet. The movement changes depending on what you place your foot onto, due to lack of horizontal stability, so the dumbbell there and it’s tedious to set up too.

[@gustavpropovski9932]

You dont need much stability compared to ring dips

[@vagabond_rick]

I love inverted rows but haven't done them for a while. Thanks for the reminder

[@cresh.p1098]

Inverted Rows are the BEST back exercice IMHO. They work wonders in an high repetitions like cali circuits and if you do them as Weighted they will build not only incredible back density but also amazing biceps and foreams.

[@proudmisfit4405]

agreed

[@kaiserfakinaway5909]

that thumbnail.... those faces when he's doing those reps.... so real! if you're not making faces you're not training hard enough!

[@gamester6506]

I agree with him, I also noticed that inverted rows are a high rep range exercise like lateral raise What I disagree with is doing beyond 30 reps, its too much time consuming

[@CaHgO]

Add weight then. Or do L-rows. With Ls you won't be able to do 5 proper ones.

[@cynicist8114]

@CaHgO The thing is that adding weight is difficult and uncomfortable due to the horizontal positioning. Adding weight is much easier for pullups.

[@rufiooo7]

it also doesn't have much benefit really if you can easily do 30+

[@ScrubDaddy265]

I wonder sometimes when we are discussing sets and reps, if we mean reps/set or total reps. 30 reps seems about right for a beginner, especially if you are moving through the grips and elbow angles to emphasize different muscles. 3 grips x 3 hand widths x 3 sets…even if you only do 10 reps, that’s a total of 270 reps of inverted rows…

[@cynicist8114]

@@ScrubDaddy265 People generally mean reps per set.

[@rabbit859]

Love inverted rows. I tend to put them at the end of my pull superset. Pull up > banded pull up > inverted rows. Failure is when I cant even retract my shoulders.

[@emmp6799]

Love them. I can stay in a 15 rep range. I just load them with added weights and they become tough very fast.

[@louismark3361]

I’ve started doing this exercise recently since I don’t have a pull up bar. I had my doubts at first the first few times doing them, and I even looked it up. But I can say that this is a killer exercise. And I appreciate the creator explaining it to drive that point home even more great to know

[@danielwalters2971]

I agree with this video. Especially when we do a lot of pulling in the horizontal plane in our day-to-day living.

[@WhateverNameIsStillAvailable]

I really like that you emphasize going beyond technical failure. So many gains left in the tank by so many people.

[@gallashaw6]

Interesting take, I'm going to try them as instructed. Thank you 😊

[@edd.]

Excellent tips!! Thank you

[@corsica6565]

Preach, man! I love 15+ reps of these when doing modified pull workouts for my neck, the scapular retractions are crucial

[@Mr_Travel_88]

Thank you 🙏🏽 will try today for the first time

[@Rory626]

Nobody who knows their stuff thinks you're weak when you do inverted rows, they think you're serious. They will think you're weak when you do terrible flopping pull-ups with horrendous form though

[@Redeemed26]

Thank you for saying this!

[@skywlker1763]

Love single arm rows as well

[@poke_warrior]

Please do a collab with Jeff Nippard. I want to see him doing some calisthenics

[@demibaskara4055]

😂

[@poke_warrior]

@@demibaskara4055 Go on, tell me you wouldn't love to see that lol!

[@spartanstrengthskills371]

I love this exercise! Always have done. I find a better muscle contraction with this compared to standard pull ups

[@carpediemarts705]

When frozen shoulder kept me from doing dead hangs or pull ups, I could do 20 of these. Take the win you can get! Was crucial for my rehab.

[@New_Years_who_Cares]

Hmm, my shoulder joint was hurting for a week after pull up sessions and doing these last sesh to help sorta focus on the top upperish range up pullup and no joint pain, maybe I healed or rows balanced out the overuse of only pullups?

[@carpediemarts705]

@New_Years_who_Cares noone could diagnose from a message in yt comments. Lot of people train imbalanced. Shoulders and knees have a lot of problems.

[@carpediemarts705]

Think I'll do some hanging rows!

[@dtrain2829]

The stretch you get on these are unbelievable

[@Harun0727]

Fade doing pushups lets go 😎

[@pavelow235]

Inverted rows the gateway to your first pull up 👍

[@dayytube]

Not only its great for the back but the neck as well to stabilize it and get the muscles of the neck working against gravity.

[@ICreatedU1]

I LOVE inverted rows! I do both the pronated elevated feet inverted rows and the neutral grip with rings. Love how they destroy my back, traps, biceps and forearms 🖤🖤🖤

[@vegerzri]

Thanks! Will do!❤

[@AcousticFatality]

Love the intensity in the set brother. Going to do this when the gym opens up tomorrow, thanks and Merry Christmas mate

[@InspiredByBrad]

Great info for extra gains with this exercise!

[@thebigdezshow8971]

There’s no denying that this CAN build muscle but there’s plenty of exercises you can load up and make more difficult in order to hit that 8-12 rep range which is a lot better for hypertrophy.

[@rufiooo7]

amen, thank you

[@austinjutte4855]

There is no reliable scientific study that shows 8-12 is any better than 5-32. All rep ranges have their purpose. If you're intelligent, you will program multiple rep ranges into your workout. For example, a back day could look like Deadlifts 5-8 for 3 sets Pull ups 8-12 reps for 3 sets Inverted rows 12-20 reps for 3 sets It's all about variety. You need to find the reps ranges and exercises that work for you, and don't be afraid to try new rep ranges and exercises. After all, your body grows and changes over time, and so does your level of stimulus and fatigue,

[@RuthWagstaff]

Aaaahhh. Okay. So I stop once I can no longer do full range of motion. The first 7 are usually great. I pause and then start a new set. The aim is to do 35 reps. So now I realise it is okay to do lengthened partials. I thought is was just bad at then.

[@procreeps5357]

Hey would like to give some advice if you’re up to listen! I saw you said the first 7 are great then you pause, not sure if it’s just a misunderstanding, but you should generally do as much inverted rows or pull ups as much as your body can handle. You shouldn’t have a dedicated number in mind, but just until you physically can’t anymore. This is why body weight exercises are pretty hard to build upon on as well since most people underestimate how much they can actually do. If you feel like after 15 reps it’s still easy, try to include in a bag behind you’re back with something light then heavy over time. Try to get atleast 10-12 reps after that until you can’t anymore. If it’s too much before the 10-12 reps, lessen the weight. Hope this helps

[@procreeps5357]

Not too sure if I was clear on the 7 reps thing, but I meant don’t pause after 7 reps, just keep going until your body can’t handle it anymore on that specific set. Then you can take a 2-3 minute break

[@RuthWagstaff]

@procreeps5357 I appreciate your advice. Thanks. I am very new to this type an exercise and will take it on board.

[@procreeps5357]

@ no worries man, can send me a msg if you need help

[@Mike-de7wv]

Inverted rows are part of my small rings routine; which has definitely yielded some development of the back. Thanks for the reminder about partials; I'll try that as I'm certainly guilty of giving up when I can no longer get the full ROM.

[@CHAARAWTAZA144]

many people don't look like their goals. they look like their excuses. real work never lies🤩

[@ICreatedU1]

Amen to that

[@Lil-Willy]

These are goated, I superset them with ring push ups and the pump is insane

[@rasmichaelrapheal]

True words... I pull by them.

[@anasbendahou7722]

I divide my back in 2 horizental pull and vertical pull, with horizental pull I finish with Bodyweight vertical pull calisthenics exercuce With vertical pull I finish with weighted inverted row

[@manuelthenics]

Perfect when using rings. The instability makes it a great challenge when paired with pull ups.

[@wuffpaw]

Love me some ring rows to polish off a back day of pullups, straight arm pushdowns, etc. Rows train a different functional purpose of the back and arms that nothing else hits properly!

[@kinganton616]

These and push ups superset is no joke

[@MasterMatrix8]

For those of you who want to do rows but don’t trust your back, maybe because a past injury, these are great!❤

[@pepjudevigo5473]

It will be interesting to speak about the Gironda pull up variation. This exercise is similar to the Gironda pull up. And it's a combination of a pull up and a inverted row.

[@aborigine777]

I am sold gonna add rings and inverted row to my workouts.

[@ryanlynch290]

I'm a designer and I just can't stop looking at your staircase❤

[@mjdee31]

Ah, thanks for the tip. I usually stop when I can only do half reps

[@Scndzr6]

Should you have fixed shoulder blades on rows and pull ups ?

[@biko9824]

Depends, but for full range of motion work let the shoulder blades protract at the bottom (basically a dead hang). Then retract just while you're going up

[@lululx3760]

No, especially in rows, let your shoulder blades move! Learning how to control the scapula is one of the biggest benefits of doing rows and is actually really valuable for pull ups and even more advanced stuff like Front Levers

[@vladip7662]

While I've enjoyed doing with gym rings regular pus-ups (with feet at the same level as the rings), pike push-ups and dips, I preferred barbell rows to inverted rows... but now I could see their potential by using them in dropdown sets after barbell rows, or as warm-up before them...

[@DumbFitness]

Great video

[@laurencebrill2020]

I slide the crowbar that I do my inclined PushUps along the rails of the swing and do them in between inclined PushUps. I try and do 400 min PushUps and either Lat Pull Downs or inverted rows. EPIC WorkOut 🏋🏼‍♂️ The pump is GREAT mate‼️ 🥇 Best pecs and definition I’ve ever had and I’m 62 😆🤣

[@embersandash]

Strength curve is lowest at the full stretch where hypertrophy potential is greatest. Chest supported machine row where strength curve is optimal at stretched position is best.

[@cynicist8114]

I think there is something to be said for instability though, which is something that machines lack. Everyone talks about the stability as being a positive in that it enables greater loads, but I think there is an argument for instability requiring greater muscle recruitment.

[@embersandash]

@@cynicist8114I agree for pushing movements, but the pull up and for don’t really allow that.

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

If I go to failure, I go to the point where I’m starting to only do quarter reps and that’s when I stop the set. Nothing wrong with partial reps with any exercise.

[@Noturmoney]

Gear helps too

[@domainmusicandgaming]

Love inverted rows

[@sacriste]

For me the secret of inverted rows is using dead legs. I mean just touch the floor or your base with the back of your heels. It's like 80 percent of a pull up but in a complete different angle.

[@Junior3z]

Doing them tomorrow 🫡

[@GreetingsFromMiaBe]

Yes, yes, yes.

[@snake1625b]

For intermediates i still think it's not enough resistance since they can easily do 30+ reps which is outside the range of hypertrophy. Best to add weight to yourself with a vest or something if you can do 30+.

[@ליאבבקלה-ע8ש]

Or for those who do not have access to weights, you can simply put your feet on a high surface or a chair, this will increase the difficulty of the exercise by several levels

[@Vlad-bs1js]

I'd say that most intermediate lifters, not athletes, can't do 30+ reps like the ones shown in this video (full rom and controlled all the way, with a small pause at top and bottom). Another thing that's worth mentioning is that people have different levels of flexibility. In that sense, if you do them with the rings touching your pecs, the fatigue increases exponentially the higher you go.

[@thiagonogueira7578]

Isometric hold on the top is worth it or just controlled eccentric?

[@ICreatedU1]

Do both. That's what I do anyway.

[@ossibombe6973]

brutal excersise, usually my grip gives up really fast :(((

[@woodythebob9367]

8-12 are goat, but If the weight IS to low higher reps are a must. Its that easy.

[@gustavpropovski9932]

I love doing it on rings, but setting up and rolling up it up just takes ages.

[@sirtifiedbucket]

idk about bw exercises (so take this with a grain of salt) but with dumbells/machines partials increase fatigue and rest needed and aren't optimal for hypertrophy, 1-2 rir achieves the same results if not better

[@en4431]

You could always add a weight vest

[@danielheisler8281]

Thank you I will do more than the usual like 8-10.

[@NikkiNexo777]

I did these for the first time this morning. They're tougher than they look.

[@pricerowland]

Did 50+ reps on a set of rows the other day just to see what it was like. Even at that high of reps you're getting a crazy back pump

[@JohnSmith-nz2yq]

We don't do it because there isn't a specific space in the gym to do so. It is bad enough when people use the Smith for calf raises or the squat cage for barbell curls. If we got into a cage and attached our calis rings for this exercise..... Come on man.

[@viviengrandjean7926]

You can and there is nothing wrong

[@wailababssa6823]

Insane pov we got In the first clip

[@oORegularKevOo]

This is the push up for the back

[@ur1min-45s]

I got a reactional caf injury, and this like O² for my shoulder and scapula

[@Jduudididiisks]

Well its not effective at overloading the rowing muscles thats why people say that sure could be a decent finisher but you’ll get more out of it by adding weight over time

[@zekininadresi]

and you can also do it with weights

[@commenteroftruth9790]

I dunno if my gym has a way to do this workout. But id love to do it. I need some better back muscle work.

[@ricksanchez369]

Imma do this today

[@johnnykiehn1872]

sure they’re great if you’re fresh and at the beginning of a workout. 20+ reps to failure of an exercise where you have to brace for stability isn’t ideal towards the back half of your workout when you’re already fatigued

[@seemykids99]

Its a plank throughout. That pushes the difficulty.

[@BillyBob-hz2wx]

Bro these are the progression to FL rows. Which are like the pseudo push ups for planche

[@bpgrmds]

my favorite exercise

[@cheerfulheartdeepmind685]

Yep.... all agreed from a 4 decade trainee with a huge bodybuilder back made in pure calisthenics realm....

[@moog5260]

I do half my back work pull ups and half inverted rows

[@cynicist8114]

Inverted rows are great, they are just tougher to load than pullups. If you are doing BW only then it doesn't matter, but if you have a dip belt and can add some weight (I use kettlebells) then a pull-up will be far higher intensity.

[@ICreatedU1]

I use a weighted vest, works wonders :)

[@cynicist8114]

@ICreatedU1 That's definitely the best way to do it. I used a kettlebell resting on my legs, but that was very awkward even at 35 lbs.

[@iamfiefo]

I have to ask then: should you do Pull Ups and Inverted Rows on the same Pull day? Or give them their own "dedicated" day to really focus on the exercises and not have fatigue from the other one be a limiting factor?

[@jomppa1505]

That thumbnail face tho💀

[@TheBlazegt]

My upper traps does suffer from this move somehow, great exercise

[@Sumerdini]

TRX 🔥

[@KAMO99]

for strength training, would you stop until technical failure but with low reps and higher sets

[@michaelblack9458]

When did these every day for 6 months and my lats were huge

[@dreski83]

Awesome.

[@mohamedkhames1621]

What about building strength with 20+ reps?

[@DanielDiaz-lp7oi]

If I add this to my routine what else can I do to train back? Can u give me some examples please 🙏🏻

[@gking407]

How can any exercise be unproductive when your muscles are screaming at the end of a set?

[@brianlamptey4823]

I skip over them because they are hard to find a location for

[@farstrider79]

I like them for my back, but have a hard time not straining my neck funny when doing them.

[@CodThyrtk]

Music at the end ?

[@ivoryas1696]

Interesting that it's practically an iverted push-up and yet people forget that you never grow out of such rows the same way you wouldn't those!

[@DeePat-gd5so]

I disagree ur reasons why people avoid this. I think its the setup time/equipment (rings vs trx vs bar) and its a little awkward getting in the correct form. Other rows are just quicker and less setup