BetterPress With Hot Foil Plates. Can you? Should you?

I use hot foil plates with the BetterPress by Spellbinders and discuss if it can and should be done.
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[@user-gw7oe2kb2i]

PinkFresh makes awesome BetterPress items. Truth be spoken!

[@therockymountaincrafter]

I had no idea, thanks for sharing.

[@lizamendez41]

Just came across your video and I do appreciate your explanation. Yesterday I did my last Spellbinders order for 2023, bcz I intend to use my products and quit accumulating stuff that goes unused. So knowing I can betterpress with my foil plates is even better to get more out of my products.

[@madusonkeeper]

Have used my go press and foil as a letterpress with thicker paper either letterpress or watercolor and shim if needed. Try metallic inks. See scrapbooking made simple video also

[@brendakuder2957]

I recently received my BetterPress in the mail. I will not try to use my glimmer plates in the system but I will try foiling the BetterPress plates. Nancy Stamps put a piece of sticky grid paper on her BetterPress to hold her paper. I thought that was a great idea and I am doing that with mine.

[@ChrisAndCats]

The sticky grid surely would be the same as the very slight thickness difference with the foil plates? So if you remove the shims it should balance out? I'll have to put them side by side. Betterpress with shims and foil plate alongside and compare.

[@sheilaj6713]

Hi I just looked at this months Glimmer plate and on the back it says Glimmer/Letterpress. I thought that was interesting. Thank you for checking that out for us.

[@therockymountaincrafter]

I had no idea, thank you for sharing that. The catch 22 for Spellbinders is if they keep insisting that glimmer plates should not go in the BetterPress when it is clearly OK they will start to lose the trust of their customers, so I think they have caught on to that now and are admitting that Glimmer Plates can be used and keep their customers. I get that they tried that so that we would think only BetterPress plates worked so we would have to buy BetterPress plates and they would make boat loads of money but that's just not true and therefore they will make less money but it would be a whole lot less if they were not completely transparent with what does and doesn't work and started to lose customers. Integrity is everything when running a business.

[@nancern53]

This was the question i had! Thank you so much for showing this!!! It makes sense that you could use them if the only reason was that the foiling plates are slightly thicker . Just remove some of the shims…🤷‍♀️

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you for watching, I greatly appreciate that and your feedback.

[@erinwood4968]

This was my thought too. Those shims that are under the magnetic base, the company has already said that those would be removed when they come out with even thicker Betterpress paper 💡😮 Wouldn’t that also mean you could use a hot foil plate by removing 1 or more of the shims!!! Here’s another idea, I’m also a jewelry maker and so I have a bead caliper. So measure the thickness of the Betterpress plate and Hot Foil Plate and adjust accordingly 😊

[@angelaharnett6437]

Thank you for showing this . I would love this better press However, not sure that I can justify the cost . I could do the machine bit it’s the whole new set of inks and and the plates to get a perfect finish rather than faffing around as I have to do with the Glimmer foiling machine

[@therockymountaincrafter]

The ink price is decent and worth it in my opinion but the cost of new plates when some of us crafters already have loads of hot foil plates that seem to work with the BetterPress, I really felt that needed to be addressed. Now others can decide if the BetterPress will be a good investment. I'm glad you found the video helpful.

[@melodymueller3149]

Thank you for trying products that might damage your better plate. I thought about it. I checked the price of the plate $15.99 isn't that bad. I really love my better press. I had issues with the tape rolled on the back side. It tore the paper. Using the Halloween spider die, its bigger than the paper it will cut into the plastic plate with the shims. Thanks again for the share.

[@kiminalaska9363]

I think it is important to note that every individual machine needs to be tested because the pressure is different. I believe that everyone who has mentioned that the plates are not interchangeable mentions that it could void your warranty. Also spellbinders doesn’t have the only plates that will work in the better press. There will be another maker coming out with press plates in 2024 so you will have a choice on who you buy from. But it was good to see that it is possible to use the foil plates with the better press

[@Coloristherapy]

Thank you for answering. My Betterpress system was damaged worse than that using the Betterpress plates and following their directions. I’m glad to know that shouldn’t happen, but also glad to know that I can use foil plates at my discretion.

[@debbiebrunssen8773]

Done it too worked great , thanks for a great video

[@InaNutshellCrafts]

Thanks for testing this out!

[@elizabethwalker3272]

I've taken to using Mint tape. No tearing.

[@roxannebrown2682]

Thank you so much for being so informative and detail oriented. I just ordered this system and have not received it yet. Your video was so inspiring.

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you for watching and supporting my little crafty channel.

[@dariasikorski7217]

Just ran across your channel. Thanks for sharing your “impressions “ of what can be used with the BetterPress.

[@dorothyayotte283]

Thanks for experimenting for us! You've inspired me to test out my own inks and papers and plates!

[@therockymountaincrafter]

I'm so glad you will try out new inks and papers, I hear good watercolor paper works fairly well also, thank you for watching and supporting my channel ❤️

[@kiwisunshine9631]

That was interesting! I haven't tried using foil card yet, but will give it a go! Thank you for sharing🙂

[@debbiebrunssen8773]

I have done the same thing with great results , love my better press

[@scuevas1023]

Excellent information!! Thank you!

[@lorispallone1130]

Thank you for your video, love the Better Press, best purchase ever. I forgo the yellow tape and use the pink tape, holds great, zero damage to your paper.

[@patriciawilson4135]

You sure are brave to try all these different inks and dies in your BetterPress. Very informative though. I unboxed mine today and am looking forward to playing with it. Thanks.

[@scrapping2boys]

Thank you so much for a wonderful video!! You were so informative, and I appreciate your detailed explanation regarding the products and their limits. Beautifully done. Great card, too! I am a new subscriber. I am glad I came across your channel. Blessings.

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you found me and grateful you subscribed.

[@sharmanmurphree-roberts4018]

Thank you for checking this out. I, too, figured they were probably just covering liability bases by saying you "can't" use foil plates with the Betterpress system. And of course, wanting to sell more of their own plates. I have tons of foil plates, and I think it would be silly not to use them with the Betterpress, now that I know its possible. I'll take the risk, and just be careful. Also, I have a bunch of Letterpress paper that I got on clearance a long time ago when the Letterpress was going out of fashion. I figure it will be great to use for Betterpress, because it's cotton and very thick.

[@therockymountaincrafter]

I thought you might like to know one of the comments I got on this video recently said they noticed Spellbinders Glimmer Plate of the Month club says Gimmer/Betterpress on it. Good to see that Spellbinders is now admitting and allowing (should any damage be done) glimmer/foil plates to be used with Betterpress. And lucky you with that paper. That's a great buy!

[@sharmanmurphree-roberts4018]

@@therockymountaincrafter Ooh, thanks for the update. I have the Glimmer plate subscription!

[@joanbardee5135]

thanks so much for doing this!!

[@therockymountaincrafter]

I'm glad you found the video informative. I had to know for myself and wanted to share the results.

[@monkeyta615]

thank you~

[@gaylebates254]

Thanks Faye. I have a lot of foil plates if you need them.

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you 😃

[@blanchardla]

Beautiful

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you 😊

[@anneliesclements2951]

I used an intricate cutting die on the betterpress... not perfect, but nice enough...

[@shelleyarthurs-graham3783]

Thanks so much for this great video. Have tried the hot foil dies in my betterpress but I need proper ink. I have been trying them on watercolour paper and that works fairly well but not near what the Betterpress paper does

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you for watching and commenting. I have yet to try watercolor paper, very interesting. I wonder if really good quality watercolor paper might work?

[@shelleyarthurs-graham3783]

@@therockymountaincrafter I have a medium quality watercolour and the result is decent but not what I am looking for. I am waiting on some new inks and the higher quality paper and will give it another go and let you know what I think. I am definitely looking for more tutorials on the letterpress process. I have some super old letter press (20 + years old) so that is how long I have wanted to increase my skills with that process. The look is so professional.

[@sharonpatnode454]

Enjoyed your video so much I joined your channel thank you

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Thank you for watching and supporting my channel. It really means a lot.

[@marjoriehenseler5678]

With a full plate image, put a bit of tape behind your card panel to hold it in place on the platen. Oops, saw you did that later. But I’m wondering why you are using the extra shim. My Big Shot is old and more loose and I did NOT need an extra shim. Everyone comments that you don’t feel much resistance, and I didn’t, but got great results. I also don’t have that shadowing you showed. Maybe it’s because you're using an extra shim?

[@therockymountaincrafter]

I did that later in the video, there is the potential to damage your image that way because the tape acts as a shim and the plate can get impressed to deep into the paper essentially cutting through. When I didn't use a shim, the image was not impressed at all, it just looked stamped. Different brands and styles of die cutting machines will have different pressures. I recommend to do what works best for your particular model.

[@carolynfedalen6621]

But if you hot foil on the glimmer plate after using as a better press does it affect how the foil works if there is ink residue?

[@sharlahays]

My guess is that they will be selling replacement plates anyway ... especially if their plates leave an impression too and over time/use they would need replaced anyway.

[@griml89]

I came directly from Jennifer McGuire’s video to check if someone tried it anyways. I don’t have either system but I’d love to have both. I find it increases in value if you can use the plates for both. Thanks for trying and for your informative video. I’ll check out your other stuff. I wonder, can you ink up your foil plates and use them without the letter press system? Like maybe just regular dye cutting machine. Would that work? I imagine it wouldn’t give quite so much detailed impression?

[@griml89]

I forgot that Jennifer showed inking up the foil plates 4 years ago. I think the results are quite nice. Maybe you don’t need both systems if you have a tighter budget.

[@navoff1]

I got marks on my platen using the system exactly as instructed. I think my Platinum 6 has a tighter set of rollers than some of the bloggers I've seen using the system. In their videos, they show that it's completely smooth on the back of the panel (in fact, in one of the videos, the person didn't like the first impression so they turned it over and inked it again). So far, none of mine are clean enough on the back to try inking again. I've used both with 3 & 2 shims. I'm going to try with fewer shims & see if it gives enough pressure for a good impression on the front without making an impression on the back. I think there's some variation of how tight each machine's rollers are that will determine whether you need more or less shims. The good news is that if you damage either the platen or the magnetic pad, you can buy replacements. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@therockymountaincrafter]

My thoughts exactly, thanks for sharing.

[@kristicompton8812]

Mine got marks the very first time as well. Brand new platinum 6 and betterpress, bought to use together. I followed instructions to the T. I was worried.

[@ChrisAndCats]

@@therockymountaincrafter mine arrived yesterday but I'll probably be using it with the big shot pro, rather than baby big as its right next to my desk. I'm expecting some marks as that thing is like a tank!

[@CockatooWantsToBeaCat]

I have not had anything turn out with my Betterpress. It’s the only craft purchase I wish I didn’t invest in. I unfortunately bought many of those plates that go with. I’m not happy with Betterpres. Watching you it looks easy. I’m a seasoned crafter. I just don’t get this thing. Ugh

[@therockymountaincrafter]

Oh no! 🙁 You are putting through your die cut machine? Like a Bigshot, Switch or Gemini? Using shims? And using the cotton paper? Does it make an imprint at all?

[@mpbailey18]

I just received my Betterpress and right out of the box, it worked beautifully! Not sure what you can do to mess up this very simple system! I always watch several videos FIRST just to understand what the process is...THEN play!

[@denisecooper2469]

I’ll stick with Jennifer’s recommendation