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Jay Metcalf compares the Yamaha Venova versus a Yanagisawa S991.
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@Microsoftman
@Microsoftman 5 жыл бұрын
“And if I wanna sound bad, I’ll just get my clarinet out” as a clarinet and sax player I feel this.
@Chryoss
@Chryoss 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get this one... Is it a joke telling clarinet are inferior to saxophone (in that case I would be totally offended as a bass clarinet player, I'd call the police ! ;) ), or is it because a good clarinet sound is harder to achieve than a good saxophone sound ?
@jackieg6754
@jackieg6754 5 жыл бұрын
@@Chryoss bass clarinet gang. But I also play bari sax so..
@vibratingaught3656
@vibratingaught3656 5 жыл бұрын
Same) but now i’ve got venova too and you know... clarinet now become much better compared to my venova skills
@squiddyjamzzz
@squiddyjamzzz 5 жыл бұрын
I play both too. Im glad someone else caught that lol
@squiddyjamzzz
@squiddyjamzzz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Chryoss I was guessing he said that because clarinet is harder to maintain a clear tone. Im a clarinetist. Im also hoping he wasn't taking a shot at the clarinet.. everybody always trynna hate on the saxophones Mother
@kitt080863
@kitt080863 5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine someone hiking with a real sax but I could see chilling at the beach or bonfire with this
@ARVash
@ARVash 5 жыл бұрын
yeah I think there's a lot of room for it as a part of casual use. Porta-sax
@YardenBarden
@YardenBarden 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 🤯
@SBVCP
@SBVCP 4 жыл бұрын
its 200 to sound like that tho, I prefer to take a kalimba or harmonica
@ARVash
@ARVash 4 жыл бұрын
@@SBVCP maybe if you only play the saxophone
@spitgorge2021
@spitgorge2021 4 жыл бұрын
marching
@Walasqueegee
@Walasqueegee 5 жыл бұрын
"Can a plastic tube sound good?" Boomwhackers: Allow us to introduce ourselves
@okey7261
@okey7261 5 жыл бұрын
lel
@burgballs5780
@burgballs5780 5 жыл бұрын
mannn, i remember boomwhackers
@sophiac7578
@sophiac7578 5 жыл бұрын
Walasqueegee I own a pair and lets just say that my home revisits elementary school often
@jamesle7180
@jamesle7180 5 жыл бұрын
This needs more clout then it has
@heysmg2325
@heysmg2325 5 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@nealewhite2651
@nealewhite2651 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these and discovered your findings were accurate. After two weeks of frustrating practice, the Venova began to become a friend. Being light and portable is a bonus.
@doglover12345andfr
@doglover12345andfr 4 жыл бұрын
Part of me really digs the Venova, it’s a great novelty.
3 жыл бұрын
And it's cheap! I bought a used one for like $50
@ericmyrs
@ericmyrs 5 жыл бұрын
I would say that this might be useful in a mass education setting. It's hard to break, and sounds better than a recorder. Though it's not as cheap.
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Venova's intonation issues make it even more useless for group playing than for just playing for yourself. Recorders have similar intonation issues -- this, plus the high pitch of the soprano recorder (one octave above other soprano woodwinds) is what makes a group of 30 schoolchildren playing recorders so insufferable. The Venova plays like an ordinary soprano instrument, which might be gentler on the ears, but it's also richer in overtones. Frankly, I wouldn't want to be in a room with a class of schoolchildren playing Venovas. The Venova looks like a great woodwind instrument for younger children or older children whose parents cannot afford a clarinet. Semi-keyed, requires no cross-fingering for accidentals, lightweight and sturdy. But it only looks that way, it's very hard to play accidentals on it, in fact, even the manufacturer admits it. The leaflet takes it takes skill to play the accidentals. But beginners need an instrument that is responsive throughout the chromatic scale, everything that "requires skill" requires an experienced player who is able to bend notes into tune. A keyed woodwind instrument by and otherwise reputable company sounds to good to be true, and my suspicion was confirmed.
@pestoriusj
@pestoriusj 5 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the sound of the recorder (when not played by dozens of schoolchildren
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 5 жыл бұрын
@@pestoriusj I'm a recorder player myself. I have several recorders I absolutely love. But the intonation issues exist. Due to the way the sound is produced (fipple vs. reed) the intonation issues are not as detectable as with a "reedocorder" like the Venova. Voicing is also an issue, some recorders are much better voiced than others. And, last but not least, the set-up. If you setting up a recorder ensemble, not everybody can play the soprano. The majority must play low recorders, basset and lower. Then you need a line of tenors, and only the best players on soprano and alto.
@1911dawg
@1911dawg 2 жыл бұрын
If you actually here the recorder playing, it’s quite beautiful. But your giving it to a bunch of elementary kids, so it sounds terrible. So I think, the more we change what we teach in music class, the more instruments we ruin.
@dliessmgg
@dliessmgg 5 жыл бұрын
"Nobody's gonna write Venova concertos" sounds like a challenge
@pestoriusj
@pestoriusj 5 жыл бұрын
I reckon if anyone writes a Venova concerto, they'll be Japanese
@adlan_kacak
@adlan_kacak 4 жыл бұрын
beethoven be like " the challenge i have accepted!"
@suzibikerbabe8073
@suzibikerbabe8073 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to the All Plasic Band playing Bolero, here on youtube.
@davida.musicdavideammendol4702
@davida.musicdavideammendol4702 4 жыл бұрын
yes, there are venova concertos and they're japanese
@ankokunokayoubi
@ankokunokayoubi 3 жыл бұрын
You would end up doing Mario game soundtrack
@tristenpride5268
@tristenpride5268 5 жыл бұрын
The Venova sounds like Elmo talking in scales
@wookielocks
@wookielocks 5 жыл бұрын
omg
@charlieaaronson5998
@charlieaaronson5998 5 жыл бұрын
shit it does
@loafofbreadd_2743
@loafofbreadd_2743 5 жыл бұрын
yeah it flipping does
@moreesetaylor872
@moreesetaylor872 4 жыл бұрын
The Elmo comment made me laugh for 10 minutes straight!!!
@bUwUmer1260
@bUwUmer1260 4 жыл бұрын
Omg it does that's messed up haha. Make a band called the elmotones
@Zekrom3150
@Zekrom3150 4 жыл бұрын
5:58 "If I wanna sound bad, I just need to pull my clarinet out" all the clarinets in the world: *ooft*
@samuelwarshaw9480
@samuelwarshaw9480 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Lin is clarinet the viola of the woodwinds?
@allisonmacias634
@allisonmacias634 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Lin sadness._.
@lltheguy8387
@lltheguy8387 4 жыл бұрын
I think he just meant that he sucks at clarinet (or at least that's what I'll be telling myself...)
@LinneRinne
@LinneRinne 4 жыл бұрын
@@lltheguy8387 He refered to himself sucking at clarinet + pulling correct notes in tone in clarinet being a pain if you aren't really a constant player, since he is clearly more of a Saxophonist most of the time
@BariSaxGod25
@BariSaxGod25 4 жыл бұрын
PTSD from Rockin’ In Rhythm has entered the chat.
@neuron_star
@neuron_star 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a sop venova to prepare myself for learning wind instruments. I’ve been playing violin for 10 years and took a recorder class along the way and the thing looked fun, so I was pretty excited. I was glad that I did, even though the venova is pretty much a toy for wind players it gave me a good and simple introduction to playing a wind instrument and taking care of reeds. Sometime after I began playing oboe since the band teacher at school said that I’d have to learn the alto or tenor sax before learning the soprano and I can say that if it wasn’t for my venova, I wouldn’t have had any clue as to what I was doing. I didn’t even know what the word “embouchure” was or how to develop one before. It was nice to have something to work off of, especially because oboe isn’t easy. I brought my venova to music camp and had a lot of fun with an actual sax player and a clarinet player just messing around with it. Later on my brother started playing saxophone and then the alto venova came out so I’m trying to get one XD Anyways, 10/10 recommend it’s pretty great for some casual fun, once I remember playing a dumb sound on it in the park and a goose nearby answered lol. Good for beginners and recorder players looking for something spicy Ps it’s resin, not plastic
@reidskull5018
@reidskull5018 5 жыл бұрын
The real soprano definitely has a fuller and deeper sound.
@passionatemelon6627
@passionatemelon6627 5 жыл бұрын
The venova is only 100 dollars
@ryansmock2717
@ryansmock2717 5 жыл бұрын
At a $5000 price tag, I sure hope it does. My $300 soprano sounds hundreds of times better than that, too. Don't buy these glorified plastic tubes
@TopherMoss
@TopherMoss 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryansmock2717 what sax do you have?
@ryansmock2717
@ryansmock2717 5 жыл бұрын
@@TopherMoss I have an Alto, Soprano, and Sopranino.
@ryansmock2717
@ryansmock2717 5 жыл бұрын
@@TopherMoss My Soprano is a Lazarro and is one of the cheapest Sopranos you can get on Amazon. I bought a Yamaha 4c mouthpiece and Vandoren reeds for it, as well as a nice ligature. It does take a lot of work to get certain notes in tune, but it sounds fine. At a $240 price though, don't even consider these sacrilegious tubes
@kpoudavoff
@kpoudavoff 5 жыл бұрын
This thing sounds like muted and thinned soprano sax to me
@mchachom8134
@mchachom8134 5 жыл бұрын
Yes that's true also it doesn't sound like a real soprano saxophone
@sperom88
@sperom88 5 жыл бұрын
phonomono78s 78 rpm records Actually it sounds like a very (unnecessarily) expensive tube to me.
@DillonRing
@DillonRing 5 жыл бұрын
Lol kirill
@meatsupplies5282
@meatsupplies5282 5 жыл бұрын
Everytime u pause when u play the venova, it looks like ur rethinking all of ur life decisions that led to this point
@MarceloSilva-lh9mh
@MarceloSilva-lh9mh 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid my dad used to do this "trick" where he placed some tracing paper over a plastic comb and used a mixture of his voice and breath to "play" it. The noise generated by the tracing paper vibrating on the comb's teeth made it "almost" sound like a harmonica (but not quite). That answers your question of what this instrument (Venova) sounds like. Still, I bought one and don't regret it. I can't afford a saxophone right now... and I'm using this to practice saxophone embouchure AND recorder fingering. LOL.
@jakemoof
@jakemoof 5 жыл бұрын
The difference is so stark I actually laughed aloud when it transitioned back to the plastic pipe
@T.H.W.O.T.H
@T.H.W.O.T.H 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a duck that's had a rather patchy musical education.
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@isnow8278
@isnow8278 5 жыл бұрын
That's rather humorous. Yeah it is. I almost lost my f***n monocle
@janbevelsborg
@janbevelsborg 5 жыл бұрын
That’s it! Sounds like a duck. And when you play it you wear a duckface :). I played this thing as well. It does help when you can play recorder as well. The fingering has variations. But it’s still a dead duck.
@wakurjunior1924
@wakurjunior1924 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I think the actual instrument is better but the venola has a unique sound and honestly it sounds like something in a Pixar movie or something
@Dynamicdous
@Dynamicdous 5 жыл бұрын
AKA an oboe
@terryd2634
@terryd2634 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a kazoo on bad steroids.
@cynthiamolenaar770
@cynthiamolenaar770 5 жыл бұрын
Terry D just my thought!!
@jamesalfaro3155
@jamesalfaro3155 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@LeandroLoan
@LeandroLoan 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha
@shamusp7084
@shamusp7084 5 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say it sounds like a tone deaf kazoo player.
@RamDragon32
@RamDragon32 5 жыл бұрын
I need to stop checking comments before I post. That was exactly what I was thinking it sounded like.
@xxmountaindewxx7893
@xxmountaindewxx7893 3 жыл бұрын
I really love my venova, its really nice to just take it with you on a hike. It sounds pretty decent to me aswell. Of course it wont sound like a 1000 dollar sax but for the price its awesome
@TranquiloCamilo
@TranquiloCamilo 7 ай бұрын
It also doesn’t sound like a 50 dollar sax. Sound more like a pvc sax
@plexoruselpuerco7193
@plexoruselpuerco7193 4 жыл бұрын
finally, a sax comparison video where i actually can notice the difference
@twowheelsonly1
@twowheelsonly1 5 жыл бұрын
Venova, for when you want your saxophone to sound like it has a cold.
@jordancyphers
@jordancyphers 5 жыл бұрын
I was playing my Yanagisawa just the other day and thought, "Man, I wish this thing sounded a little more like a plastic tube." Well, here ya go.
@marydunn163
@marydunn163 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan, me, too! 😂😂😂😂
@finemo122
@finemo122 5 жыл бұрын
I work at my local music store, my co-workers and I had a challenge to see who could sell one. 2 1/2 years later I finally sold it to someone that wanted a travel saxophone. We all think it sounds like a weird sax-kazoo.
@ivanbliminse5350
@ivanbliminse5350 2 жыл бұрын
It hits a weird market. For people like me who haven't touched a woodwind in years but wants a fun trinket for when I am bored at home.
@MarcieBee
@MarcieBee 4 жыл бұрын
As a trombone player of 7 years, I find the venova to be a good intro to reed instruments and treble clef, for not too high of a price.
@scottbailey7626
@scottbailey7626 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but, as a Venova owner and player, you can tune it. Do it by moving the position of the mouth piece on the neck. Love that all my piano sheet music is mainly in the key of C, as this means that I can play it on my Venova. #Yammaha did a great job, first new wind instriment in decades.....
@matthewmeador9565
@matthewmeador9565 5 жыл бұрын
I’d have to say that both have their qualities, the soprano gives you the great tone and resonance, but the venova almost has a dreamy, airy sound that kinda puts a smooth overtone on it; but the intonation is the biggest problem, and it doesn’t compare at all to a soprano sax
@certifiedpossum8655
@certifiedpossum8655 5 жыл бұрын
If you want that dreamy sound, an EWI would be a much better choice with much more flexibility
@apinakapinastorba
@apinakapinastorba 5 жыл бұрын
It kinda sounds like a man trying to sound like a saxophone.
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@UlIxes1
@UlIxes1 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Pujol ?!?
@miarpheolliro3100
@miarpheolliro3100 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what's on my mind😅😅😅
@CTSpeed413
@CTSpeed413 5 жыл бұрын
... And now for something completely different!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/epukhqepjL6re5Y One more ting. I’ve never heard any man or machine properly imitate the sound of a saxophone. Maybe I’m biased, but I doubt it.
@n3v3rg01ngback
@n3v3rg01ngback 5 жыл бұрын
apinakapinastorba Adam Lavine?
@ne0romantic
@ne0romantic 5 жыл бұрын
From an acoustics standpoint the Venova is kind of facinating. There was a time when the saxophone was new, remember. The clarinet only has strong odd number partials because the end is closed. The flute has all the partials because both ends are open; the mouthpiece is a flow control, not a pressure control. The saxophone changes the resonator to a cone which fills in the partials and you get to hear what a clarinet would sound like if it had a complete overtone series. The other way to do this would be if you could somehow have a tube with a reed and two open ends... which would be some kind of ... 3 ended tube, and Yamaha did it... it should sound like a saxophone? right? Now practically... this does not seem to be best execution of the idea... but I'm sure it's actually pretty hard to do and in some years people may figure out how to make it work better; who knows?
@thea.m.p.co.467
@thea.m.p.co.467 16 күн бұрын
This is a huge part of why I've bought all three versions - they are absolutely fascinating from a technical and acoustical stand point.
@alchemedes
@alchemedes 4 жыл бұрын
The venova sounds like the love child of a sax and kazoo...🤦🏽‍♀️
@onesyphorus
@onesyphorus 4 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to explain how accurate this statement is...
@luisAponteSax
@luisAponteSax 4 жыл бұрын
Liked por venova than that soprano damn yes
@scottpandich3972
@scottpandich3972 4 жыл бұрын
I could see that definitely for the alto version.
@bigboy-mn9en
@bigboy-mn9en 4 жыл бұрын
Yesh
@jacktsaibr
@jacktsaibr 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that was the best description I've ever read
@azice01
@azice01 5 жыл бұрын
A brass version of Venova would be interesting.
@coolguy0140
@coolguy0140 4 жыл бұрын
wait would it be a venova made of brass or a brass instrument venovafied
@tone.c.a.e
@tone.c.a.e 3 жыл бұрын
@@coolguy0140 of brass
@yaboi-km2qn
@yaboi-km2qn 3 жыл бұрын
resin cornett basically.
@Fi_M_64
@Fi_M_64 2 жыл бұрын
Its called a saxophone lfmao
@michael18276
@michael18276 2 жыл бұрын
no brass is casual.
@asianz5960
@asianz5960 5 жыл бұрын
Man that venova sounds like a really upgraded kazoo.
@asianz5960
@asianz5960 4 жыл бұрын
@Daeighve Geoughnns just go further beyond.
@nard1000
@nard1000 4 жыл бұрын
Well said, he does like a kazoo. I have heard better on this instrument, but I think he showed the difficulty of having a sax background and trying to translate it to this casual instrument.
@gosneygosney
@gosneygosney 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plastic tube, not sure when I would ever want to use it.
@theoverunderthinker
@theoverunderthinker 5 жыл бұрын
traveling and wanted to keep you embouchure up without carry around a full size horn?
@theoverunderthinker
@theoverunderthinker 5 жыл бұрын
I posted before I got to the end...... whoops! :)
@sameman6884
@sameman6884 5 жыл бұрын
It's a lot cheaper
@wyatthampton684
@wyatthampton684 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe because it is a plastic tube.
@CaveXD
@CaveXD 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like a sax with a sock in it
@aydencox1859
@aydencox1859 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a recorder that’s pretending to be a saxophone
@verenaheuss
@verenaheuss 5 жыл бұрын
No.... dont bring back memories of recorders.....no, NO *NO*
@zachthecatman
@zachthecatman 5 жыл бұрын
Ummmm... I think that was kinda the whole idea of the instrument
@NatashaEstrada
@NatashaEstrada 5 жыл бұрын
If you tape a clarinet mouthpiece to a recorder you get basically the same thing.
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 5 жыл бұрын
@@NatashaEstrada Then you'd have a chalumeau, the clarinet's ancestor. It was Jacob Denner who invented the register key and thereby the first clarinet.Still without key work and needing cross-fingering for accidentals. Gradually, keys were added to improve intonation and temperament, and after the sixth key was added, the clarinet was considered a fully chromatic instrument. However, since both the recorder and the chalumeau have a conical bore, any type of recorder body with a clarinet mouthpiece overblows like a clarinet. The Venova is somehow twisted to overblow into the octave, like a saxophone. Clever idea, but the Venova has horrible intonation issues.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 5 жыл бұрын
Would they do that? :)
@anthonypierre2094
@anthonypierre2094 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, thanks a lot for reviewing this instrument. I saw it and was wondering what a pro player would think of it. You answered most of my questions in terms of sound and easy of play. Would love to see you review an electronic sax. Roland has a full AE series of electronic saxophones
@philbarone4603
@philbarone4603 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been in the mouthpiece and sax business for about forty years and made mouthpieces from seven different materials and when I made the dimensions the same they played identical to each other, even wood. Did the same thing with necks. Bird played a plastic horn and it sounded the same as any other sax. It’s too bad that it doesn’t play in tune but it’s not because it’s plastic. Feel free to dialogue with me.
@jacobleavey7335
@jacobleavey7335 5 жыл бұрын
"it's grown on me" stockholm syndrome be like
@marydunn163
@marydunn163 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Leavey 😂😂😂😂
@XavierJordanMusic
@XavierJordanMusic 5 жыл бұрын
The real sax blows it out the water. That plastic Yamaha sounds like you’re playing under water
@joshedwardsOTR
@joshedwardsOTR 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like someone took a party blower and added some keys to it.
@brownie3454
@brownie3454 5 жыл бұрын
it sounds like if a soccer stadium had a music education
@gealdyrtheta6938
@gealdyrtheta6938 4 жыл бұрын
Wow pretty accurate
@PitsTasteGood
@PitsTasteGood 4 жыл бұрын
I started on clarinet. It was very tricky for me. But I was told that if I completed three years of clarinet study, I would be allowed to play a saxophone. I was eventually able to rent a sax from my school so I can solidify my dedication. But I personally wouldn't suggest a recorder. Yes there are professional recorders out there, but no, most of the classmates that I went to school with had nothing to do with music. They all started on recorders. So, with this in mind, it might be a better choice to start with something that requires half the skill needed to play a woodwind instrument. And when I was a kid, renting a clarinet cost around six hundred bucks. So for the most part, this is a steal if you're just trying to get someone warmed up to the concept of embouchure. I ordered one and I intend on treating it Like A Penny Whistle with a reed. If used properly, this could be a versatile instrument for someone who records using samples.
@andesneko
@andesneko 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine recorder players when the first plastic recorders came out :D
@sameman6884
@sameman6884 5 жыл бұрын
"Can a plastic tube sound good?" Isn't that just a clarinet? Jokes aside, it sounds like a saxophone that has a kazoo for a mouthpiece. I would like to see a elementary school band with recorders, pbones, and venovas though, that'd be fun
@GriffenfacePlays
@GriffenfacePlays 5 жыл бұрын
SameMan6 somehow I feel like it’s the exact inverse. A kazoo with a saxophone mouthpiece...
@KharamelSueno
@KharamelSueno 5 жыл бұрын
Dear God no!!!! What we don't want is a bunch of struggling venovas in Elem. school that can't hit the proper notes T_T.... we have violin for that....
@GriffenfacePlays
@GriffenfacePlays 5 жыл бұрын
Tyler M lmaooo
@Yachiruchua
@Yachiruchua 5 жыл бұрын
GriffenfacePlays I’m personally offended ugh
@maguffle
@maguffle 5 жыл бұрын
Great, honest review. I play sax (not professionally or anything like that) and I got one just to play around with....and that's all it's good for. However, if they make the changes you suggest (especially the left pinky keys) it'll be a lot more fun to play.
@SwissRiven
@SwissRiven 5 жыл бұрын
6:00 thanks for that joke!!! Made my day!
@aninaholbek
@aninaholbek 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the good old days: guy brings his guitar, and girls flock around him. Nowadays: guy brings his Venova... and will probably stay single forever.
@lubos4639
@lubos4639 5 жыл бұрын
You are a kind of cruel but deadly right - this Venova is one of the things in the world that make being sorry for them and their existence... nobody really can like it...
@hessamhajiaghazadeh400
@hessamhajiaghazadeh400 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha haaaaaa🤣
@raymundogarciapena6751
@raymundogarciapena6751 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch !!!
@ihatemyself2208
@ihatemyself2208 4 жыл бұрын
But.... You yourself single. Guess the sax women don't get the sex if you know wot i mean
@aninaholbek
@aninaholbek 4 жыл бұрын
@@ihatemyself2208 I'm married to an accordion player. xD xD And you're right, everything is very boring in that department, with two social distancing instruments under the same roof ;)
@rogercloud8861
@rogercloud8861 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I really liked that rendition of "Fry me like a goon."
@danielseleguim
@danielseleguim 5 жыл бұрын
I have the soprano one but honestly I barely use it (for the same reasons listed on the video). But I think it’s a great strategy from Yamaha; young kids showing interest on saxophone are hard to find but they still play the recorder, which has a very similar fingering to the Venova. I think Yamaha is essentially investing on future players as kids will be using a fingering system they are familiar with at the same time they incorporate single reed “dynamics” into their playing, thus paving the road to the saxophone at a later age. It’s still a cheap instrument and investment for a much more expensive purchase later. Genius move!
@GabrielVelasco
@GabrielVelasco 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! I was sitting here listening to his criticisms and enjoying my Venova...with my ukuleles (each size of course), didgeridoo, and cajon literally within arms reach. :-) He totally called me on it.
@HrvojeBan
@HrvojeBan 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have a didgeridoo in my room, but I have a uke, cajon and a Venova (and a dozen other instruments), haha...
@imelpomene
@imelpomene 5 жыл бұрын
This video certainly confirmed my suspicion that the venova has tuning issues (after watching lots of demos on KZbin). Being a violin player, I just can’t get past this issue.
@urmomspeen7061
@urmomspeen7061 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t this just a recorder with a reed?
@jasonjayalap
@jasonjayalap 4 жыл бұрын
The body? Recorders are reverse conical.
@neuron_star
@neuron_star 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much 😅 It’s really fun to play tho
@bigboy-mn9en
@bigboy-mn9en 4 жыл бұрын
Probably
@yvesfrancoisritmo
@yvesfrancoisritmo 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one of these bamboo reed instruments on Jamican mento 78's ... but it still sounds even less like a sax.
@DarrinJackson76
@DarrinJackson76 7 ай бұрын
Kinda - But how cool is that! Recorders are fun to play with too.
@coyjin
@coyjin Жыл бұрын
It sounds like what it is, a Reeded Recorder. It's got all the hollow sound and pitch problems of the recorder and the distinct vibratory tone of reed instruments. I like the way that Yamaha sells it as a introductory or casual instrument. affordable accessible and dare I say fun. I recently picked up the recorder from my childhood and found that I like the challenge and reward of stumbling through simple tunes. while trying to find which exact recorder I had on their website I stumbled across this beauty and I was instantly intrigued. I grew up in a musical family so we all learned piano and a second instrument, my brothers being the alto sax and I always loved its tone. so this might be something that I buy.
@Timelesshero1711
@Timelesshero1711 5 жыл бұрын
Good Lord. If even Jay can't play it always in tune then nobody can. It's amazing that in the videos comparing chinese saxes with expensive ones; sometimes Jay can make them sound very similar, especially when closing your eyes. but this time, every time the sax popped out it was like sweet anodyne to ease the pain from the venova's sound.
@rodolfodiazrusconi2965
@rodolfodiazrusconi2965 5 жыл бұрын
I have a venova and I like it. The sound is not like real sax but it is not so bad. It sounds quite loud but less than a sax. I using stock mouthpiece and Gonzales 2 1/2 reed. For me the best thing is that it is portable and lightweight and allows me to take it on my bike and play in a park or with my friends The fingering is like a recorder. The problem is the F# G# A# notes, I have to use vocing to be in tune, with the other notes I don't have problems to be in tune . You can use effects than use in a sax like vibrato glissando Growl Bending . Jay I hope one day to play like you. I have their courses and they are so GREAT!!!
@lucassstache8069
@lucassstache8069 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like one of those toy cat pianos and a plastic trombone mixed together
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@sunnowo
@sunnowo 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I really enjoyed the microtonal rendition of jingle bells on the Venova
@Gyklarin
@Gyklarin 5 жыл бұрын
I think it has a funny sound. And I'd love to hear some really good musicians play those in a group of - say - six persons. It would sound hilarious
@jem-jams
@jem-jams 5 жыл бұрын
The Venova sounds like the bastard child of a cheap Soprano sax and a kazoo.
@tuxsax
@tuxsax 5 жыл бұрын
"I play the saxophone! If I wanted to sound bad, I would just get my clarinet out.." That was harsh but funny!
@xtarssgi5922
@xtarssgi5922 5 жыл бұрын
As a clarinetist that hurt me...
@chrisoakland8036
@chrisoakland8036 5 жыл бұрын
he's saying he's not a clarinet player, not that clarinets sound bad
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 5 жыл бұрын
@@xtarssgi5922 I frowned, too -- clarinets aren't regularly put down. If clarinets sounded bad by default, why did great composers like Mozart write so much music for the clarinet? If a clarinet is tough on the ear, it's either a shoddy instrument, or the player is at fault. I guess in his case, it's the latter.
@ThomasSantosCanal1
@ThomasSantosCanal1 3 жыл бұрын
The way i understood is that he is the one bad at playing clarinet
@rillloudmother
@rillloudmother 5 жыл бұрын
as a guitar player who has been tempted by these things, thank you! one perpetually out of tune instrument is enough for me...
@BISHOPBUCK
@BISHOPBUCK 5 жыл бұрын
"...if I want to sound bad, I'll just get my clarinet out." Hilarious!
@badrudinlazim1400
@badrudinlazim1400 4 жыл бұрын
The Venova sounds 'plasticky'(of course) in the sense that it lacks the timbre associated with a real brass saxophone. This is akin to playing a violin made of plywood , as opposed to a real violin made of spruce and maple.
@onesyphorus
@onesyphorus 4 жыл бұрын
_"and if I just wanna sound bad, I'll just get my clarinet out"_ This is too relatable as a T Sacophonist 😂👌
@ShadowUnanimous
@ShadowUnanimous 5 жыл бұрын
Venova sounds like a soprano and clarinet fused into each other and transformed into an instrument with less keys. The Alto version just sounds like a congested oboe/bassoon.
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize Yamaha came out with an alto version until now. Interesting, it's in F, like the alto recorder. Confirms my suspicion that they target recorder players. The instrument has an insert for the F-hole sou you can play it like a Baroque recorder, and now they have it in F. I think of all "reedocorders", the only one that works is the Kunath clarineau with 3 keys. It has intonation issues because it is lacking a key work befitting a true clarinet, but the better your embouchure, the better you are able to correct those. On the downside, the 3-eyed clarineau is expensive if you buy it as a transitory instrument.
@lylecrawford2794
@lylecrawford2794 5 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of is portability while travelling, but in that case I think I would use the Jazzlab mouthpiece silencer for emboucher work, and maybe a wooden flute for fun.
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 жыл бұрын
the silencer is anything but silent. I'd rather play this and at least be able to change notes....
@lylecrawford2794
@lylecrawford2794 5 жыл бұрын
@@bettersax It is an exaggeration to say one could use the mouthpiece silencer in a library as shown in one of their videos, that's true, but my wife tells me she can't hear in at all when I'm in my "practice closet." The concert G, A flat, A, and B flat that I can make with the silencer so far doesn't exactly make for great music or fingering technique either.
@lylecrawford2794
@lylecrawford2794 5 жыл бұрын
@@bettersax Sorry Jay, I somehow missed the part where you said that you could probably play it in a hotel room without disturbing people.
@teeztoyz
@teeztoyz 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like how it looks - plastic
@mikkikas6821
@mikkikas6821 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely the real thing. Has a richer and fuller, warm tone.🤗
@RogerZoul
@RogerZoul Жыл бұрын
Thanks. You saved me some time. That sax sounds so good that there’s no way I want to mess with the toy. Better to spend time on the real thing.
@tomswift6198
@tomswift6198 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an expensive kazoo, without the kazoo's wacky charm.
@michael18276
@michael18276 2 жыл бұрын
The fact you cannot describe its sound proves its success.
@dem4xed
@dem4xed 5 жыл бұрын
I think the soprano is okay, but the alto one is just hilarious 😂.
@idletimerap
@idletimerap 3 жыл бұрын
I am in love. To be super clear I'm a collector of kitsch instruments. My casio Melody-80 just arrived in the mail today. This is a stupid instrument but it's innovative. It answered a question nobody asked and I love it. During the 80s there was so much innovation in instruments with companies trying to find a market for the new hot thing and so few of them withstood the test of time. But I find the Yamaha DG-20 delightful and I wasn't there for that release. But I'm here for this and I will definitely be buying one
@gyrrakavian
@gyrrakavian 5 жыл бұрын
It's really hard to make plastic sound good, but this comes closer than others.
@damoncombs4959
@damoncombs4959 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a blend of muted trumpet and a saxophone combined🎷
@SethKotta
@SethKotta 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea that went off half-cocked. I really wish it sounded better. Having a plastic alternative just to lower the price barrier is always a good thing in my eyes, but I felt like this could have stood another round of design improvements.
@markmetzler9108
@markmetzler9108 5 жыл бұрын
You could use it to record a musical sound track bit for "Toy Story". Has a corny kind of sound to it. I actually find it a bit of a fun sound.
@marijnkuijlman
@marijnkuijlman 3 жыл бұрын
4:45 HAHAHAHAHA! When he jumped back to the Venova the piece that he was playing just shifted up half a step! XD
@ThroatAcapellist
@ThroatAcapellist 3 жыл бұрын
First time hearing about this instrument, just got mine today and love it so far, I got it for exact reason at end. But I'm trying to get my kids interested in music so I got a wacky one and wanna learn to prove they can to.
@ALAPINO
@ALAPINO 5 жыл бұрын
Another thought: this is for the guy who buys an ABS plastic Ukulele as a serious instrument.
@colinz226
@colinz226 5 жыл бұрын
One sounds like a congested nose, the other sounds like a warm fireplace
@segala7853
@segala7853 3 жыл бұрын
yeah the Venova has such a nice warm sound
@yeeturmcbeetur8197
@yeeturmcbeetur8197 5 жыл бұрын
I think it being so small and short lessens it’s ability to bring out bass and get rid of the reed squeak if that makes sense (coming from a trombone player.)
@williamstarkey9032
@williamstarkey9032 4 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a Venova YVS -100 . . I got rid of the synthetic Reed . . And I am using an alto reed because I couldn't find soprano reeds at the local music store . . And the alto Reed works fine . . I haven't played an alto sax in 38 years . . But picking up the sax is on my bucket list . . I can't afford another alto right now . . The Venova is a challenge . .it is helping me get my chops back . I had a stroke 8 years ago . . And I do have some paralysis to the left side of my mouth , but I am going to keep at it. . Until I can get another alto . . But thanks for your honest review. . But the Venova is priced for me at the moment . . Thank you
@davidm1922
@davidm1922 2 жыл бұрын
When you say it doesn't play in tune: did you try it with Baroque fingering and with the plastic bit removed? German tuning (on recorder) is not properly chromatic. This could make a big difference if the instrument was built well.
@wugiz4784
@wugiz4784 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you're playing with the mouthpiece by it self.
@LaginLog
@LaginLog 4 жыл бұрын
Was he playing "Fly me to the moon" ?
@meh6222
@meh6222 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@MichaelJayification
@MichaelJayification 5 жыл бұрын
"Now, take a breathless, deep breath..." It looks good, but that's about it.
@argon805
@argon805 4 жыл бұрын
you make it sound great! both of them. Sax obviously more mellow but Venova ok for casual and who can beat the price for something you wanna take to the beach?
@XKNStudios
@XKNStudios 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to have hope for the Venova Alto--which is why I watched this video...but--I found myself looking forward to you playing your alto SO much every time you went back to the Venova. Let me say: this solidified my choice in *not* wanting to buy a Venova, as a Saxophonist. Even for fun. Thanks for the great video.
@pyronman
@pyronman 5 жыл бұрын
"Mom, dad! I will be the best venova player in the world!"
@athease
@athease 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the fingerings are based off of the German recorder fingering system, so sax players will find it very difficult to get use to the fingerings, and the german system also can have some tuning issues if not done correctly lol. Though I can't wait to see how far this instrument can go
@seandeegan2067
@seandeegan2067 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a mouthpiece and neck that can play different pitches
@CimarronLeatherStudio
@CimarronLeatherStudio Жыл бұрын
Much obliged I made a mistake not watching your videos first, I watched it after I ordered one then canceled the order
@stephen38620
@stephen38620 5 ай бұрын
You played it so well...I was inspired to get one...
@karinkay3256
@karinkay3256 5 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of Jack Black's saxaboom.
@brownie3454
@brownie3454 5 жыл бұрын
don't you dare drag Sexboom down to this glorified pvc's level
@Salex684
@Salex684 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted a 'casual' instrument to take with me that sounds amazing I would get a harmonica and learn to play the heck out of it.
@antonygonzalez1672
@antonygonzalez1672 5 жыл бұрын
4:59 if you guys don’t laugh at this transition you’re dead
@Ronno4691
@Ronno4691 Жыл бұрын
Well....as the demo began, my eyes drifted away to the other videos below (I'm watching and listening on an Android smartphone). When I paid attention to your video, I realised you'd switched instruments so I rewound and the 'real' Sax sounded slightly fuller and more convincing? If I was only listening and not watching, I would not have have known the difference and in a live setting with a full band, you could play the plastic one or a mega-expensive vintage Sax and I could never tell the difference.
@SCWoodwind
@SCWoodwind 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just got a very young student purchase one of these. She is a Kindy kid (think about 6 years old) who had wanted to learn saxophone but is too small for a saxophone. So figured we would start with this to give her some reed playing technique until she is large enough to actually learn a saxophone. Do you think she will cope with this?
@mr.e0311
@mr.e0311 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something Tom Waits would have on a track.
@jonmichaelgalindo
@jonmichaelgalindo 4 жыл бұрын
You can't "look up" recorder fingering technique. Mastering it takes as long as embouchure. That's why you can't play in tune. I don't think Yamaha realized how devastatingly challenging this design would be. It requires as much mastery as a saxophone and a recorder combined.
@Claire_As_Day
@Claire_As_Day 3 жыл бұрын
"If you're the sort of person who has a ukelele, a Cajon, and a didgeridoo in your living room..." I've never felt more seen in my life and I don't like it
@Hiroyuki_T
@Hiroyuki_T 4 жыл бұрын
Jay , the fingering of it is from a recorder right? It isnt a sax fingering
@kingslaphappy1533
@kingslaphappy1533 3 жыл бұрын
That was a very cool review…now i can really hear the differance, thanks.
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