Between the Backbone and Ribs | Old Arguments Brought to the Table

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[@syedraffeahamed9603]

Assalamualaikum. Regarding the gushing fluids from between ribs and back bone ; the Quranic description is 100%correct.It is described in the human embryology that Gonads(male and female organs of reproduction, ie embryonic testes and ovaries initially placed above embryonic kidneys high above on the foetus abdomen. later on as foetus grows,testes migrate into scrotal sacs in male and ovaries in the lower abdomen in female.So proceeding from between backbone and ribs is compatible with Quran.Allahu Akbar!

[@Mohamed--Aden]

You should edit this and space it out lol

[@alifiamd9963]

Exactly 💯👍👍

[@ajbaws]

As a human biology major, this is patently false. Testes and ovaries are derived from the mesodermal epithelium (mesothelium) lining the posterior abdominal wall, the underlying mesenchyme and the primordial germ cells.

[@richiehasselhoff802]

But why mention where the organs are when the person is still a foetus? Why not mention where the organs are during the moment the body can produce such liquids? Intellectual dishonesty to me.

[@MA-gu2up]

@@richiehasselhoff802 I wouldn't go with that interpretation necessarily, but where is the gushing fluid coming out from? Also, there is the possibility that UT refers to the fetus, and how the fetus in the womb, and the fact that in the last weeks it is very high up in the abdominal space of the mother.

[@vortexvampire]

بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لأبي و ارحمه و اجمعنا معه في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب أني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين................

[@africandawahrevival]

How can you have Christian prince and research in the same sentence.

[@seekerresponds2010]

😁😁😁😁

[@christis4ujesus680]

I can show you Countless Islamic teachers and apoligists caught lying about Jesus and christianity ??

[@samkb6374]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@conflictortiz8906]

Because christain prince always shows evidence 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alifiamd9963]

@@conflictortiz8906 evidence from the wrong ayat.... Right. And you guys actually fell for it 🤣🤣

[@HussainFahmy]

*_Never mind what Rob thinks._*

[@canhaktan9674]

Rob "Hadeeeeeefff" is working with Christian Princess. What a shocker.

[@Solemn_G]

Christians believe speaking Arabic makes you a scholar of Islaam apparently? lol. Most Arabs speak 'Aamiyyah with no knowledge of grammar and root words. Many actually make mistakes in pronouncing words and harakaat lol.

[@defendthefaith2415]

Go to " Christian Prince" you tube channel. He is an arab christian

[@algebrizmi9614]

@@defendthefaith2415 go to FARID RESPONDS he is an expert Arabic speaker

[@stevemcroy2020]

@@defendthefaith2415 Go to "Farid Responds", he debunked the majority of Christian Princess claims with evidence

[@defendthefaith2415]

@@algebrizmi9614 Oh that Farida Responds, who leaks emails!

[@defendthefaith2415]

@@stevemcroy2020 Your farida sistah( farid responds) says, nobody witness the splitting of the moon 'cause everyone was asleep at that time!

[@Toronado2]

To Bro. Imran and Bro. Ijaz Quran - Sahih International - 86:5 So let man observe from what he was created. 86:6 He was created from a fluid, ejected, 86:7 Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs. 86:8 Indeed, Allah , to return him [to life], is Able. The Verse says "Let MAN observe". So each Person has to OBSERVE what THEY are CREATED From. A SPERM is NOT what a Human "MAN" is Created from. A Human being is Created FROM the Sperm AND the EGG being conjoined together. This person and a lot of other people including Muslims think it is JUST the SPERM, when it isn't! Then the "FLUID" is the Zygote which flows through the Fallopian Tube. Because this entity is a NEW CREATION at this point. Where as before the Sperm was part of the Man and the egg was part of the Woman. Individually they were NOT a "MAN" or Human Being until they became conjoined and the EGG became fertilized and the zygote formed then it became a "MAN". Quran 86:5-7 the backbone and ribs The SULB which is the Backbone, meaning the BASE who is Adam or Man, the Beginning of Human kind, the STRUCTURE which Humanity is BUILT upon. And TARAIB which is EVE the Woman which was created from Adam's RIB, the other PART or Half of what a Human Being is created from. The Verse says ; At-Tariq 86: فَلْيَنْظُرِ الْإِنْسَانُ مِمَّا خُلِقَ خُلِقَ مِنْ مَّآءٍ دَافِقٍ يَّخْرُجُ مِنْ م بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وِالتَّرَائِبِ إِنَّهُ عَلَى رَجْعِهِ لَقَادِرٌ (٥-٨) So "Insan-Man" was "created". The time a Man is formed in the "The fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube for about 3 to 4 days. But within 24 hours of being fertilized, it starts dividing fast into many cells. It keeps dividing as it moves slowly through the fallopian tube to the uterus. Its next job is to attach to the lining of uterus." From webmed. .com . Again to emphasize the point. "MAN or a Human Being is Created at the point where the Sperm meats the Egg and then starts to form WHILE being made "IKHRAJ" to journey through the Fallopian tube into the Uterus. Ikhraj here is ejected meaning DETACHED from the Woman. It has become an Insan/Human Being at this point. It has become it's own entity once The woman has ejected/Ikhraj-ed this insan then it latches on to the uterus a separate entity from it's Mother and Father. Actually VERY Scientific and the Sahaba or the Mufassireen could NOT have been expected to Know this amount of detail. Salam

[@alhassangangu4357]

To brother Tony G, Ramadan Kareem, thanks for your input in explaining a very delicate and intricate ayatollah from the Glorious Qur’an. For us we say سمعنا واطعنا We hear and we obey

[@anandananda2277]

A report from Vox Channel that somewhat explains gushing water of the womb in reproduction. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIeum62sebt6htU

[@Toronado2]

@@alhassangangu4357 Ramadan Mubarak and Salam. Thank you for your kind words.

[@ZeroCelsius777]

Totally WRONG! No prize for you.

[@Hermann329]

@@ZeroCelsius777 ye you're wrong, no need for an explanation lol

[@faisalbestgamer1723]

جزاكم الله خيرًا

[@elliot7205]

'Between the backbone and the ribs, its talking about a human being emerging not fluid.

[@HaniBarghouty]

The verse refers to INSAN, not the gushing water INSAN is what emerges from the backbone and the ribs of the woman. فَلْيَنْظُرِ الْإِنْسَانُ مِمَّا خُلِقَ خُلِقَ (الإنسان) مِنْ مَّآءٍ دَافِقٍ يَّخْرُجُ (الإنسان) مِنْ م بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وِالتَّرَائِبِ إِنَّهُ عَلَى رَجْعِهِ لَقَادِرٌ

[@Mohamed--Aden]

I thought of it as where the testicles develop then go under the kidney region for more development till the testes finally drop. As the testicles develop within the abdominal cavity between those areas at first

[@shahinoorchowdhury2007]

​@@Mohamed--Adenas salamu walikum brother. I have seen this interpretation before, and even from accredited sites like islamqa. I am not able to understand how this explanation of testicles in the embryo is between ribs and backbones connected to the verse. Please clarify for me.

[@JasMin-ez2lv]

lol no beby comes from between the ribs and backbone...wtf? All knowing God would know beter...

[@shahinoorchowdhury2007]

@@JasMin-ez2lv when uterus expend and baby is located Right under lower ribcage and backbones. Bro learn basic stuff before commenting.

[@rimshamasood2016]

​@@shahinoorchowdhury2007❤

[@ALzzanam]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@freeman7983]

Masha ALLAH

[@Redsok]

Brother why ijaz say Christian Prince is paedophile whats story/evidence of that???

[@alberxenos]

السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ As-Salaamu `Alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuhu

[@shafiqbelaroussi1250]

Jakaum Allah khair for this video. Can you upload a clip responding to the "divorcing a minor" claim the one about Surat al-Talak. it would be really helpful In shaAllah

[@amarsahbi6439]

Christian princess is an arabic scholar hhhhhhh. Neither he speaks Arabic or English So how he became an Arabic scholar.

[@asimghaffar8148]

I've heard him on KZbin. At least I think it was him. He speaks English.

[@amarsahbi6439]

@@asimghaffar8148 broken English, so he won't be able to debate people who are academics . That's why he is hiding behind the screen taking money from people who suits their agenda. If he is an arabic scholar then he should debate arab scholars or Muslims scholars who speak English to make a case for his claims.

[@asimghaffar8148]

@@amarsahbi6439 No from what I remember his English isn't broken. He just has an accent.

[@amarsahbi6439]

@@asimghaffar8148 i don't think you do speak English to.

[@asimghaffar8148]

@@amarsahbi6439 Even though I've just typed out English? And I was born, raised and live in an English country?

[@falsehoodexterminator2336]

There should be a fallacy named after this delusional Rob

[@JasMin-ez2lv]

God would know that no baby/semen comes frm between backbone and ribs....

[@alfanzain9031]

There many Arab speaker scholar who made mistakes (zillah) like Ibnu Hazm allows music and Abu Hanifa allows consume liquor if not grape-based. These are against scholar majority agreement (ijma'). These are incorrect and rejected many years ago.

[@dondadda1]

I speak Arabic and I’m not a scholar on anything related to the language lol

[@Nomad_786]

Haha Spreading the Truth 😂

[@karlecolin7864]

This guy didn't prove anything. The bulbourethral is where the gushing fluid comes from, which is located in the pelvic arch, not between the pelvic arch and the loin or ribs. That wouldn't even be considered right if you answered a question like that on a test. God is supposed to be free of errors, flawless, perfect to a T. Even Chat GPT says between the pelvic arch and the loin or ribs, is wrong.

[@Justice-Barzackh]

Robs channel has how many subscribers? Lol

[@Christian_Crusader.]

Why don’t they make it very easy and Skype call Christian Prince debate him live and refute him. Get him busted in front of whole world you will get a lot of shahadas

[@Logia1978]

because the princess never accepts a fair debate in a neutral skype debate with a moderator... His whole buisness is bound to his lies... he will only accept a debate in his skype when he can mute and ban people....

[@kolakoli2645]

watch how coward princess fools his fanboys with paid callers 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ_dpoVsl92IbLs

[@Christian_Crusader.]

Are you making more excuses listen let’s make it easy call him Skype when his live KZbin tell him you want debate and want a moderator very easy c’mon the whole world will see who’s lying or who’s running from debate NO MORE EXCUSES

[@kolakoli2645]

@@Christian_Crusader. tell her to come out of his mums drawer first 😂😂 btw did you watch the video i posted here? Lol no muslim goes debate her actually they all are paid crosstian callers

[@Logia1978]

@@Christian_Crusader. More excuses ? You are just another brainwashed bigot. Cp was offered a real debate with real moderator, he refused because he knows his buisness is based on lies... We even offered him to wear a clown mask and the muslim debator would wear a mask too... Now tell us why he refuses a real moderated debate and finds excuses ????

[@andhbak]

Arrogant as his church, answer the question if you are fair otherwise we will show you with proof that bible is Paul's writings as we have proved in history

[@nofeardocere]

He's just playing which mostly Christian do...

[@gggsayian535]

Christians are getting desperate with click baiting titles and thumbnails. Lol I been seeing a lot of their titles and they can be refuted in matter of minutes. Lol

[@conflictortiz8906]

Cp is a scholar he uses ur scholars to prove what he's saying is facts

[@alifiamd9963]

You can't even tell when he's reading the wrong page 🤣

[@conflictortiz8906]

@@alifiamd9963 actually you can dummy go to the Quran and the hadith online 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're so in denial

[@aboeAimen]

His voice is so annoying 🙄. Subhaan Allah.

[@makaveli6562]

Lmao dont say that

[@abbaup8543]

All urologist’s are laughing at you and so do i!😂

[@ajbaws]

17:38 I think you refuted yourself right here. This word "tara'ib" is a plural noun and there is only ONE pelvic arch in the human body. The translator says it can also mean ribs which of course is a plural word so the correct word to use here is ribs. So now we have determined that Allah thinks fluid comes from the ribs which is patently absurd. Also I like how you ignored Surah 86:6. So if 86:7 pertains to female anatomy as you claim, please explain what part of a female anatomy "ejects fluid" or in the Quran you're referencing there "produces seminal fluid" as referenced in 86:6. We know Muhammed liked to plagiarise and therefore it's not surprising to highlight that it was Hippocrates (400 BC) who first postulated that sperm came from within the body passing from brain to spinal column before passing into the penis. He postulated that a 1000 years before Mohammed was born so this basic (incorrect) idea of medicine was probably known about in the desert. I would imagine that's how this statement found it's way into the Quran. Your book is man made guys. Suck it up

[@realtaim3759]

u a funny guy

[@m-n336]

😂😂😂 hippocrates literally said sperm comes from brain to groin area, and you really compare THAT BS with the verse, where does the verse even go above ribs (mistranslation) . What drugs are you on, pls say no to drugs! Yes you right about tara'ib, but there is more in groin area, that could refer to tara'ib than only ribs. The spine goes right under groin area even. So anything there could be the tara'ib

[@makaveli6562]

Care to tell us, why everyone gets to believe these myths regarding Ancient Greeks? That they discovered this and that which are scientifically correct? That they knew the diameter of the Moon, the distance between Earth/Moon & Earth/Sun, the diameter of the Sun, the heliocentric system of the solar system, etc.. is there any historical and archeological evidence for this? Any credible historical and archeological proofs? Otherwise, why even believe? Use you brain, except if you don't have one

[@MarkHenryTheWrestler]

You clearly lack basic historical understanding. There’s zero evidence that 7th-century Arabia had access to Greek medical texts, let alone that Muhammad plagiarized them. Your claim is as outdated as the Hippocratic ideas you’re parroting. Try researching before spewing weak conspiracy theories about a text that’s stood unshaken for over 1,400 years.

[@A.--.]

Question Dr. Imran. Why does 86:7 not refer to gonadal ridges which arise from the same Somite as ribs and backbone do and lies in the anterio-medial aspect of the Somite that differentiate into backbone and ribs? My understanding is that this verse is referring to the Gonadal Ridges which are primordial testes and ovaries.

[@christis4ujesus680]

Ha ha ha ha !! What ??? Please explain how dead congealed blood turns into anything but a scab or bruising ??? If we christains had a prophcey this weak that had to be broken up , took apart and shoved around inorder to try and make sense of it , you'd laugh at us . I challenge any muslim to stack our prophecies against your best ??

[@Toronado2]

​ @Christis4u Jesus What are you laughing about. Do you know what you're even talking about? What word is it in the verse that is "Dead Congealed Blood" ? You want a prophesy from the Bible? OK, Jesus said to Pilate " MY KINGDOM is NOT of THIS World"! Now the question to you is Why did Jesus LIE to Pilate? Or is Jesus NOT going to return to become King of Kings? Work that one out and get back to me.

[@christis4ujesus680]

@@Toronado2 First , the Quran verse states " clot " ?? Thats dead blood ?? I challenge you to show me what else it is ?? Second , I've already explained this About Christ's kingdom before you baffoon !!

[@Toronado2]

​@@christis4ujesus680 What Arabic word is that being translated from? Just tell me why Jesus had to Lie to Pilate? Was He SCARED? Was he sweating Great Drops of BLOOD?

[@christis4ujesus680]

@@Toronado2 Your truly embarrassing. You've just Answered your own question. First , how can the world be Jesus kingdom if there's sin in it and injustice ?? Don't you think Jesus if he ruled would make changes ??😂😂😂. Unbelievable !!! You said " or is jesus not going to rule when he comes back ?? ". Yeah you Total baffoon !! When he comes back !! that's when he rules over all creation, at his second coming. Not at his first .. Nowhere in the bible it states Jesus has rule over earth. That's why the bible said .’” Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me ". and this brings me to yet another question you didn't answer ... Why did jesus claim in the son of man prophcey he had God's power and Glory coming in judgment and then to reign over creation for eternity ??

[@botbeamer]

This was wrong how you handled this guy, shame, you should have actually addressed the argument, what a waste of time is this video. That translation and explanation is not satisfactory.

[@tamerjaber3771]

his explanation was great, the guy kept dodging the question they repeatedly asked it was the right thing to do

[@botbeamer]

@@tamerjaber3771 brother as a muslim we have to be just, this verse actually has a deeper meaning it's part of mutashabihat ayats and you need someone who know arabic and the scholarly tradition to actually explain this properly, I am of the opinion that the best way to translate it is to tie it back to Adam and Eve as Adam was known to be sulb and Eve was created from taraaib so it's a metaphor for the male and female organs or Adam and Eve

[@tamerjaber3771]

@@botbeamer i do agree that it's a mutashabih and me not strictly have this meaning the brother showed but at the same time you can't say it isn't, there are scholars who went by that interpretation like for instant Mustafa al-Adawi a modern day Egyptian scholar and I'm sure other have as well. Our job isn't to cherry pick interpretations based on modern science discoveries but when someone is using science against us least we should do is to demonstrate that there is a translation befitting that narrative

[@botbeamer]

@@tamerjaber3771 Nobody agrees with that fringe interpretation it goes against what the Salaf said

[@tamerjaber3771]

@@botbeamer do u have a proof of that? I'm reading different tafseers and seeing similar things amongst others being said

[@jamest3592]

رقام

[@christis4ujesus680]

Ha ha ha ha !! Mental gymnastics at its best !! Muslims just read the damn verse !! It's doesn't say anything like what your guys are saying ! Since when did dead blood change into anything but a scab ?? Sorry but this is Ridiculous !

[@Toronado2]

Christis4u Jesus What are you laughing about. Do you know what you're even talking about? What word is it in the verse that is "Dead Congealed Blood" ? You want a prophesy from the Bible? OK, Jesus said to Pilate " MY KINGDOM is NOT of THIS World"! Now the question to you is Why did Jesus LIE to Pilate? Or is Jesus NOT going to return to become King of Kings? Work that one out and get back to me.

[@christis4ujesus680]

@@Toronado2 Their actually taking down my posts yet again .

[@christis4ujesus680]

@@Toronado2 Just google embryo development ??

[@christis4ujesus680]

@@Toronado2 please let me know if you've seen this replies because they've took my posts down that my bible verse that show Jesus does have kingdom over earth until his second coming . Plus replies that prove my point about the embryo . See the lies !!!

[@malikiskandar5510]

In Islam we have the isnad of knowledge from the Imams of the mujtahidin. They are the narrators (mubaiyin) and interpreters (musyarrih) of al-Quran and al-Hadith, that is, ulama 'muktabar who help to explain and explain the difficult meanings contained in Al-Quran and Al-Hadith. we do not rely on the Qur'an and hadith alone blindly the same as what is done by Christians so that the emergence of the concept of polytheism because there is no isnad of knowledge. btw if you want to debate about the science of quran vs bible. I think the bible can't last even for a moment because there are a lot of scientific errors in it 😂👏🏻👏🏻.

[@djfine100]

Islam isnt truth but if u approach it the wrong way theyll have hang time n build confidence. But if u Kno how to put ur stuff together islam cant stand im still trying to understand how this primitive religion gain so much ground its like ppl got dumb down

[@harizu_5182]

May Allah give you hidayah

[@djfine100]

@@harizu_5182 Satan cant do anything for me sorry brodi

[@djfine100]

@@harizu_5182 Satan cant do anything for me brodi

[@djfine100]

@@harizu_5182 Satan cant do anything for me brodi

[@djfine100]

@@harizu_5182 Satan cant do anything for me sorry brodi. Jesus defeated Allah on the cross the primitive moon goddess. Cant do anything for me brodi.