Beyond The Sun - Playthrough & Review

[@BeforeYouPlay]

What are your thoughts and feelings for this game? 😃

[@Shoitaan]

Weird question for you guys, what do you prefer even though they are not perfectly comparable experiences? Scythe or BtS? You only have time for either game. Your choice of player count.

[@patrickleither1800]

Really like this game. Have gotten a couple plays in at 3 players. The tactical and strategic planning are in good balance. The different colors have groupings of actions so you can plan for a strategy but can have those plans change based on what actually comes out. I am excited for an expansion for more tech, system, achievement, and event cards. Also, a solo mode.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

@@Shoitaan Hi! That's a tough one for us because of how different they are and also because of how well we already know Scythe. To answer your question, probably Scythe, but that is mainly because it is easily one of our favorite games of all time (both of us). If we had to play 2 or 3 player though, definitely BtS because it plays very well at 2 and Scythe does not.

[@dwarrenmsp]

@@Shoitaan It's funny, watching this an I immediately thought of Scythe even though they look like apples and oranges. I'm also selling my copy of Scythe because it never clicked with me. This seems right up my alley though while still giving me Scythe vibes. I don't know why, but it really does.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

@Patrick Leither We are already excited for a future expansion! So many great possibilities 👍

[@supasnake8138]

You guys are quickly becoming one of my favorite YT board game channels. So cleanly presented and informative.

[@ericfrancis7816]

Very happy y'all enjoyed the game! Dennis is a fellow member of the Boston Game Makers Guild and I got to be part of the playtesting team for this. He did a spectacular job, and he's also a fantastic guy. :) Also, dachshunds FTW!

[@RelevantDad]

You guys made this so clear and easy to understand. Thank you!

[@bearleeleagle7170]

Awesome playthrough - thanx guys! :) I just wanted to have a sneak peek for a couple of minutes but ended up watching the complete video! Very informative and entertaining. Definitely not my last time hanging out at your channel. Greetings from Germany Chris

[@Cissewis]

Hi Monique and Naveen! Thanks again for another wonderful playthrough. Once again, that rules summary + playthrough + review format is just so great! Also, congratulations with the 10k subscribers! Cheers from the Netherlands!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Our pleasure! Thank you so much for the kind words and well wishes. We can't believe we made it to 10k!

[@nathanielmerchant3286]

Thanks for this! In addition to the clear rules explanation, you both create such a compelling and genial atmosphere, which is refreshing but not always the ambiance I myself create. My wife and I would never make it past the introduction of explaining a game without bickering, rolling our eyes, and opining about which parent of ours is a real "piece of work." I'm grateful for the positive, thorough, and enthusiastic presentation in all your videos.

[@grzegorzowczarek3016]

That sounds... sad. Hope your relationship is OK.

[@nathanielmerchant3286]

@@grzegorzowczarek3016 22+ years. You worry about you, champ.

[@SteelBreeze021]

This is now my favorite "Before You Play" video. Thank you both for the work you put into this production.

[@pixxelwizzard]

I really enjoyed your discussion and breakdown of the game after you played it. Your pacing and information coverage are perfect. Thank you!

[@StephenLee1]

Rules question. At 51:00 was Naveen supposed to put his supply cube in the left column? I thought he was supposed to refill if starting with the rightmost column. Very clear explanation of this game by the way. I think I almost fully understand the game just by watching your video. I’m looking forward to trying it on TTS.

[@tonybowers9490]

Your channel is awesome! Just found it! :-) Just subscribed. You went over the rules excellently. And, your play by play comments were nice and very helpful. Thanks for sharing. You have a very nice setup (cameras, voice, etc.) and that takes cost and effort. And, that goes for your editing as well.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi Tony, so glad you found us! The internet is just so vast haha. We appreciate the kind words and appreciation of our style and setup. We want to continue to improve the quality of both the audio and video. Monique is the editor she gets all the praise there. Thank you for your support, comments like yours truly mean a lot to the both of us. :-)

[@ludwigvan2932]

Playing this game this weekend. Really looking forward to it. Thanks for the video. This channel is fantastic!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks for checking out the video, we hope it helps get your game to the table sooner! Let us know what you think after you play :-)

[@ludwigvan2932]

@@BeforeYouPlay Game is great. Very happy with my purchase. I feel like there's a lot of replayability here. Beyond the Sun and Honey Buzz have been my two favourite games this year but I have yet to play Praga Caput Regni, Pandemic Legacy Season Zero, Hallertau, Dune Imperium or Lost Ruins of Arnak (all games I suspect might be high on my list this year).

[@farahbshesh6713]

Naveen was so cute about his win, so happy to see you win this one! Based on the artwork, I had completely dismissed this game, but your playthrough has changed my mind! Can't wait to start playing!

[@scorpian223]

Jealous of Naveen's hair every time I watch your play-throughs.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Haha thanks you for the compliment! Try not to check out our Power Rangers video then. :-(

[@scorpian223]

@@BeforeYouPlay too late 😐

[@cbazler]

OMG, I was going to say the same thing about Monique! Amazing, beautiful hair!

[@j.r.cilliangreen4083]

They are both too beautiful…

[@IosifStalin2]

10k is well deserved.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thank you so much!!

[@Zilbernet]

I fell asleep watching this video last night (tired, not bored) and dreamed that I was playing a game with you guys but you wouldn't let me take a turn. I was so angry (in the dream) that I went to bed, but could still hear you playing the game in the living room. So, thanks.

[@NemoMangelk]

That zoom in snap camera was a great touch in post - made it much easier to see the tech

[@johanlof5893]

Awesome playthrough (as per usual :D ) I really like when Naveen manages to get a win! :) He gets all boyinshly enthustiastic and you can clearly see his eyes light up with joy.. Grats to the win mate 🏆 You guys are really producing great content with super quality. Appreciated. Please keep it up. My copy of this game is on its way to me right now and I just found out that there is a solo mode for it over at BGG, so I might be able to crack it open all by my lonesome 👍

[@LeRichardGames]

Was watching the rules section of the video when my partner walked in. He stayed for about a minute and left. Next thing I know, he texted me from the other room that the game would be arriving in a few days. Lol. We played this last night and boy oh boy. I really like how tight it is. I’m also interested in playing with more than 2 to see how much of a race it becomes. And congrats to Naveen. He was so happy to win and it was great to see! 😂

[@edifanobbonafide]

I was not really interested in this game but that changed completely after I watched your excellent video. Beyond the Sun us now on my to buy list.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Glad to hear it! I hope you enjoy it as much as we have!

[@jadam42]

Thought this game looked interesting, but wasn’t expecting anything special. Yet our game group keeps coming back to this game over and over again. It just plays so well.

[@JaySwag77]

Thanks for the playthrough, I had a lot of fun watching.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaeldarling7169]

Thanks for the playthrough! I think there is a market for a hard science space colonization game. Much more interesting to me than a game that uses space as a backdrop without much attention to actual technologies, both current and speculative. You two are the perfect pair to show off this design's strengths. Like you, I would like to see a game with more players, if only to unlock more options in a playthrough and see how they might interact. Great video!

[@ysimard1324]

Very cool discovery for me :D thanks for making this... i'm currently trying it out on BGA.

[@rigdigwus]

really nice seeing you play. great explanation of everything

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Glad you liked it!

[@Mark-jagger]

New subscriber but I have watched many of your videos before. Not sure why I’ve never subscribed before! I really enjoy your style, both teaching and play through. Excellent presentation. You both seem like really nice people too so that’s a nice bonus too. Thanks! Mark

[@JimPAX70]

Rules question, shouldn’t the two of you be refilling the E column with cubes before putting them in the B column?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi James, you are absolutely right. We both made the mistake of not being observant and instantly filling in the E column. We're just glad we had both made the exact same error lol

[@momgamer9750]

Yaye! ,,,,, This game is on its way ... Thank you for this lovey play through

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hello!! Excited for you to try it out, really hope you enjoy it!

[@chinwhat]

"in the space space" hahaha, I liked that!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

It just seemed right lol

[@DiceWiseDW]

Colonizing is so fun! I do enjoy the area control element. I just did a solo simulated playthrough for three players. Unsurprisingly, the player who colonized the most (and also had the most achievements) won by 9 points. The other two players were within 2 of each other. It's a unique game, and I too look forward to playing with 4 players. I also ordered the custom dice components that are in the shape of starships. :)

[@RolandsRevenge]

Consistently the best videos. Looking forwards to playing this.

[@dwarrenmsp]

This game looks great! I'm seeing a trend this year in games that I'm most interested in. The Lost Ruins of Arnak, Whistle Mountain and now this. You're basically crafting the spots for your "worker" to land. While BtS is more action selection it gives me a worker placement vibe. Really keen on this one. It does look like dullsville though, which is a big letdown.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Yeah it's very strange in 2020 to have a game look basic, but the mechanisms and gameplay totally crush the looks of the game. We have had a blast playing this one each time.

[@kennethkwa529]

This game looks pretty cool, and a fantastic rules teach and playthrough as always! Just wanted to point out a rules mistake (at least I think it was based on your rules explanation - I've not played this game before). At 50:50 when Naveen was colonising the left planet B, the pop cube he spent to colonise should go to column E instead of A because that's the rightmost column with an empty spot?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Yeah, we made an edit in the description of the video. The rule is to always replace cubes in the furthest right column available first. We both made that mistake (accidentally) which somewhat evened it out lol.

[@cornichon2580]

@@BeforeYouPlay I’m glad you made that note because I came looking for the same question, but I wish you would actually make that clarification in the Klingon subtitles. You ask us to turn those on every time, but you rarely use them. If I’m watching your videos through an app on my tv, which I usually do, I can’t see the comments or description, but I can see the subtitles. Just a small request. Thanks.

[@DaFlavourFace]

​@@cornichon2580That's fair, but I think they didn't because it happened multiple times throughout the video

[@Agent_Pendergast]

Excellent video. Beyond the Sun is an amazing game. Had Tawantinsuyu not come out this year this would have been my favorite game of 2020. Also, excellent work on continuing through the Pfister series. He is my favorite designer. Wondering what your next series will be? Have you given thought to the next series being the Pax games (Porfiriana, Emancipation, Transhumanity, Pamir and Renaissance)?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Glad you enjoyed it too! We tried Tawantinsuyu via tabletopia (or one of the online methods) and I must say it was kind of a struggle playing it in that fashion. Would love to try it again with the physical copy of the game. We're not sure what series we will start next, we'll probably start discussing that in December and gearing up for a January Designer Series.

[@Agent_Pendergast]

Tawantinsuyu would be brutal online. You are saints to have tried. The game definitely shines in person and I think you would enjoy it much more than online. I cannot imagine playing that game on Tabletopia or TTS😁

[@SFuruli]

I've tried to watch this playthrough several times, but I always fall asleep (because I watch it when I'm sleepy, not because the playthrough is boring). Ended up ordering the game today, so maybe I'll eventually stay awake and learn it. 😴

[@PabloTheAwesomee]

Thank you! I bought the game cause of this playthrough! you guys are awesome.

[@Bansheeeable]

i'm buying this game as soon as possible because of you! exelente video!!!!

[@zero-il9on]

Love games about the “final frontier”. Awesome guys! Player mats look really cool.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi Aaron, same! It's a theme that's kinda overdone, but I (Naveen) still love it!!

[@zero-il9on]

@@BeforeYouPlay Hi Naveen, yup, i think the same but I don´t know, it has something that enough is not enough.

[@MagmaHC]

Really nice playthrough video, you are both very nice ❤

[@supermegavega]

Well done, guys. I liked your take on this game and the actual game should be arriving to my door on Friday (fingers crossed). Love your channel. Question: Why is the keyboard in the background? Do you play often or is it just a table for your lamp?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thank you! Monique plays music often and plays on it regularly. We’d love to hear your thoughts after playing!

[@Sabury]

I like how Monique shied away from "Mass Cloning" but did not mind conducting "Human Experiments", sacrificing people in the name of Science. 😁 I realy enjoy your videos, thanks a lot to both of you. 👍

[@BeforeYouPlay]

🤣🤣🤣 Thank you!!

[@josyuen4207]

Yay! Thanks for the play through! It is good to see how it plays at two players. The colony cards remind me a bit of Tiny Epic Galaxies but it looks great!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

It does play quite well at 2 players, it's nice when the area control aspect is fair in a 2P game. Haven't tried any of the Tiny Epic games, they've always been on our radar.

[@tdubkickflic]

great playthrough and review!

[@jeffgoggin1394]

Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! A little excited for this playthrough... could you tell? Looks like this vs Rococo Deluxe for the Table Hog Championship 🏆

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Haha thanks for checking it out! We have Rococo Deluxe but haven't played it yet. Loved the original :-)

[@bengalf]

I'm soooo curious with this game! Thanks for showing out this one :)

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks for checking out our video!

[@caseypeterson5827]

I like the clean look of the game. Thanks for your thoughts. Want to play this.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks for checking it out! Hope you get to try it!

[@JohnShrader]

Because comments are supposed to be good for the algorithm! But also, nice rules explanation and playthrough. Thanks!

[@MoriMemento117]

Wonderful playthrough! My girlfriend bought this for me for Christmas, and I am so excited to get it to the table!

[@usmansabir3897]

I have seen quite a lot of videos and really surprised to see naveen win a game lol, just ordered this game. Really looking forward to playing it.

[@gthdmaiden]

That teckel definitely steals the show

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Dexter is just the best little doggy! ;-)

[@stanchechak9889]

Hello Before You Play, Is the main criterion for which games you play the color of the players pieces (i.e., purple)?😊😊😊

[@johnrochester1419]

Awesome video guys.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks so much John!

[@DrewBearism]

The tech tree mechanic looks similar to the lifeline board in Dawn of Mankind. Beyond the Sun looks like the bigger and better version of this idea though (sorry DoM). Thanks for another great vid guys!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

I'm not familiar with that game, but if it's similar we definitely will need to deep dive and look into it!

[@Fissi0nChips]

Good job Naveen. I wish I'd got this when it was available. Seemed like my kind of game but for whatever reason I didn't pull the trigger. Too bad I didn't watch this video sooner. :)

[@citizensnips1012]

Preordered this along with Dune: Imperium and Curious Cargo awhile ago. Wish I would have broken up the order so I could get my hands on this game sooner, but free shipping... Thank you for the great video to pass the time

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Totally know that FREE SHIPPING struggle! Hope you enjoy your board games. Let us know what you think after you play.

[@mrfikss]

Thanks for this guys! It's been on my radar and y'all just confirmed that is something I'll like. How much do the asymmetric player boards change up the game on your views?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

We honestly haven't played with them yet, but just the starting setups for the standard boards do give players a direction. We are assuming the more advanced boards unlock more possibilities and create different roadblocks. Looking forward to playing with them soon.

[@shayraecok578]

The (at end of turn) text in the achievement cards. Does it mean at the end of the turn of the player claiming the achievement or the end of the turn is after all player ahve played their turn for that round ? An example for this confusion. PLayer 1 is first player, just claimed control over two planets this turn that allows him to put two food production disks. At the same time triggering for him the Achievement to have an entire row of production's disk emptied. Can that player claim the achievement or do we need to wait for player's 2 turn to end ? BEcause if so, player 2 can come contest the claim on the planets and put the food production disk to player 1's mat. Which would mean the achievement would no longer be compelted (At end of turn)

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi Michael, thanks for asking. The player would finish their turn and then claim the achievement card. It would happen at the conclusion of the active player's turn. Let us know if there any other questions we can try and help answer!

[@toddmelliott]

At 50:51, shouldn't the supply cubes go back from right to left? Column E had an empty space.

[@kpaxchaos]

57:00... This private technology is worth 3 points at the end of the game

[@EdgarMolas]

They would have tied because of that, but Naveen would have won the tiebreaker.

[@zhivik]

This was amazing! I love this game! I mean, a space exploration theme, a tech tree inspired by the Civilization video games (which I have been playing since the first one) and a lot of replayability - what's not to like? I am definitely getting this one, and I've just spotted as it available for pre-order in my FLGS. It does look like a huge game, but oh well, I will manage somehow :) A quick question - do the starting technologies vary? I mean, there is a lot of replayability already, but even more won't hurt. I also loved the theme and how the mechanics match the technologies, in a very similar way like Terraforming Mars. I'd say it shows that the designer has a physics degree. Unlocking the additional production spots was also nice, as well as the automation track. I also think it will be more interesting with more than 2 players, and I hope we will all have the opportunity to test that in a couple of months :) I reckon that the colonisation race will be more intense with more players, as you get only one more colonisation spot for 3 and 4 players (though you do get two more shipyards). And yes, the game is long, but I was never bored while watching this, which I believe is telling a lot. Besides, turns do not take too long to do, even though you have a lot of choice, especially later in the game. All in all, it is a must-buy for me. I realise the game might not appeal to everyone, but I am in love with it, so thanks a million for presenting it!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Yeah you nailed it! There's so much to love about this game, it never felt stale and we always felt like we were truly working towards our goals. The starting level 1 technologies are the only ones in the game, but the level 2-3 each have roughly 20 each and I believe the level 4 has somewhere between 8-10 different ones. There are advanced asymmetric player boards as well. We are excited to eventually play with those boards and also play 3+ players in the future. Thanks for checking out the video, I hope you will enjoy your plays as well!

[@babydemon90]

@@BeforeYouPlay Hmm, why are the starting techs 'cards' instead of printed on the board then? Looks cool though, debating getting this so I can hit my free shipping threshold!

[@daisychang1463]

@@babydemon90 For variable setup it seems.

[@ramorgan1]

Were you ever able to play at 3 or 4 players yet? If so, how did you find it compared to 2? Great video, as always!

[@stefanscicluna2799]

Best guide for the game out there gg

[@garylangford6755]

I would suggest adding the tags "how to play" if you didnt have it. I searched beyond the sun how to play and this was down on the list (dispite being the best teach)

[@joerobert7847]

I always like your play throughs. Even though boring looking. I really want this game. I hope long term they look for expansions.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi Joe, when Monique set up the game and I showed up to the table the first time I was like "Umm... doesn't look like there's much going on... Why do the player boards and action slots look like 1983?" haha I would be ecstatic for an expansion!

[@joerobert7847]

@@BeforeYouPlay I know what 1983 looked like. You probably not so much LOL

[@feliperodrigues8273]

I was looking into Eclipse Second Dawn and Empires of the Void. I really want a game that has space exploration and that works very well for 2. Something like a 4x or Star Wars Rebellion (which is more like a war game). Then you guys give me this video! Thank you! I am definitely watching it and I will see if its worth for me. Also, huge thank you for the Hanamikoji recommendation, it has become my number 1 filler right now!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi Felipe, sounds like you have a bunch of great choices on you mind. Unfortunately we haven't played all the games you mentioned so we can't fully lead you in a direction. Glad you are enjoying Hanamikoji!! It's a forever classic for us and will likely stay in our collection forever :-)

[@BjornBultinck]

I love this game, the lenght is no issue for me, heck I play arkham horror and 1 game can go from 3 to 5 hours depending on what happens. It's a very big board and it's good if you all at the same side of the board so you all have a good vision. We have a big table so we can sit with 3 next to each other but even then we ar standing up for a better overview or walking around the view the exploration board better. It's a flaw but one that is neglectable, because the game itself is so fun a'd engaging. The replayvalue is amazingly high, played it 3 times now and the tech board looked completly different. You can go very deep in tactics and the more people you play it with the harder it gets, cause the chances are bigger that anothzr p'ayer takes the action you want. It's an amazing game

[@benediktcz]

shouldnt at 50:50 naveen's supply go back to column E?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi yes we noticed it only after we filmed the video. We both made the mistake at the beginning of play. We put an edit in the description letting people know about it.

[@Fissi0nChips]

Maybe just get the Chwazi app on your phone for picking first player. :)

[@wai-kwongwong6247]

Didn't you have to refill column D first before column B. I think both of you had an empty space in Row D.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Yes you do, you always need to refill the rightmost columns first. We may have made a couple of mistakes doing that. Didn't even catch it while editing! Apologies.

[@henriwhitehead]

Great teach!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Glad you think so! Thanks!

[@codyperry4011]

I’m thinking of getting this game however, it seems that there is a huge swing into the red science. It appears you are virtual dead in the water if you do not put a majority in red. Would anyone that had played this agree? Or is there a path where I can go more heavy in green or yellow and still win?

[@Fissi0nChips]

You guys on multiple occasions in this play through placed back a supply cube on a place that wasn't the farthest right (E column) instead putting them on A or B. Am i missing something here?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Hi there, yes we accidentally both made that mistake a few times. We had added the clarification to both the Klingon subtitles as well as a disclaimer in the description. Hope that helps!

[@Food2Table]

This game looks like fun!

[@DrMcFly28]

I'm really intrigued by this game... but unfortunately the aesthetics would immediately scare away pretty much everyone I might have a chance to play it with. :(

[@orbesteanu4tsa]

Naveen on Killing spree again! wooop wopp!

[@anglosaxon42]

Don't you always score private technologies? If that's a level 3 private technology it should go to a tie-breaker.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

You're absolutely right! I think we both ended up 58 to 58 and Naveen would win on the tie breaker.

[@MagmaHC]

🔥

[@Nemtom42]

Both of you totally ignored the empty spot in column E.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

We addressed it in the description once we realized it. Fortunately we both did it and it didn't have consequence on the gameplay.

[@Slyfox1775]

Will this game stay in your collection ?

[@BeforeYouPlay]

It certainly will be! We have played it several times now and continue to enjoy it. We can't wait to play it with 3+ players some day.

[@studywithashlie]

🤍

[@kossowankenobi]

#5050Juice

[@BeforeYouPlay]

lol

[@P_E_P_1966]

"Coal" game & great video

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks!!