BHVR Just Fixed Every Broken Perk...

[@volkmist1320]

While i disagree with some changes, i think it's good, and im happy they changed some perks making the game more fun to both sides, i like it and i can see more builds now.

[@soulretriever8630]

Yeah now they opened up for more perks to be brought out into many builds instead of being perks you barely see nobody used

[@bewarethebat0]

I don't understand the self care changes

[@hrm7654]

@@bewarethebat0 removing the incentive to heal yourself? they prolly want it to be a more co-op action

[@bewarethebat0]

@@hrm7654 that I can understand, but self care wasn't meta for a long time. I found self care to be more of a pain to a team

[@kyotous]

Both? U see what they have done to killers💀 game is killer sided now

[@KURRDA]

The only one I’m sad about is iron will. There’s no point running the current iron will at tier 1 or 2, so the fact that they’re capping it at 75% is depressing. My idea was that iron will just no longer suppresses breathing sounds when injured.

[@olal9904]

me too, but it was a crutch. a good change, and I hate it.

[@NDandHBCentral]

I hate it cause some survivors are SO LOUD. But hopefully 75% will still help =/

[@KURRDA]

@@NDandHBCentral yeah I know survivors are just skins but I’ll have to be an Ace main now lmao. I like Yoichi but he’s so loud :(

[@bobthejester3105]

They need to buff ash with quieter injured noise because you can hear him from the other side of the map

[@Craiguuu]

It shoulda just been the exhaustion debuff and that’s it, they killed iron will now

[@ninpo-2103]

Jolt looks like meta perk material. Also, I like recharge mechanics. That's something to play with.

[@TameHook128]

Conveniently most of the perks I used have been buffed, so this update will be one of the best (Deja Vu, Jolt, Lethal Pursuer, etc. (Sorry for including my underrated perks that no one asked for))

[@Helena-me6mp]

recharging gives you something to work with, it means you can use it infinitely.

[@andahalf6423]

Yeah now that ruin, tinkerer, and pop have been nerfed jolt is looking a little juicy

[@OldManEsteban]

jolt S tier perk now Jolt Jolt allows the Killer to regress generators simply by downing a Survivor. To make it more consistent and punish careless Survivor plays, we have removed the cooldown.

[@noscrubsm]

i only see Jolt being a "meta" perk for Nurse (since she can down multiple survivors quickly), not many killers can do that, but idk maybe im wrong

[@soulretriever8630]

Jolt is honestly gonna be A tier very good to punish careless survivors who run into their teammates who are working on gens and such but late game all it takes is for them to run away from gens being worked on

[@Vasiliy9hells]

It would be an S-tier if it had worked with a special attacks too. For some killers like Bubba, Huntress Jolt is highly situational.

[@OldManEsteban]

@@Vasiliy9hells meanwhile perma tier 3 myers: *:)*

[@Vasiliy9hells]

@@OldManEsteban That is too specific condition for a perk to be and s-tier. It's not like and average player has 100k of iri addons.

[@lilithkitsune7152]

Something creators haven't really seemed to mention yet is that because of the pain res scream going away, it won't be OP with deadmans switch anymore. Which to me was the biggest issue with the perk

[@olal9904]

it wasn't op and it was easily counterable. sad to see it go

[@unintended_karma1235]

You just had to let go of the gen before they hooked the survivor. It really wasn’t that bad and had good synergy. Besides 15% was hardly worth it. Now it’s just meh or worst.

[@thedoomslayer5863]

@@unintended_karma1235 yup it had a clear counter now it's shit

[@GameBoyBen]

Yeah I'm sad to see it go too lol it really wasn't that hard to counter to deal with tbh

[@Lyserg1260]

Yeah very deserved nerf

[@baragon84]

Im really bummed about the BBQ nerf we knew it was coming but it just feels so bad half the fun of playing killer was getting all 4 BBQ stacks and knowing you had a big juicy payday coming at the end of the match they say they've reduced the grind significantly but i dont know if i trust them.

[@morericewillcookrice]

They did say it would take about an hour to prestige so I guess it is faster

[@yuppersmeer6080]

There's also going to be blood points for the side which is underused, and usually that ends up being killer so you'll end up with extra BP anyways in a lot of games

[@daekwonrose3160]

Who cares if you trust them it’s their game all you can do is play or don’t.

[@shockedshinx4092]

so bbq and iron will will probably go from used by everyone (bbq) and used sometimes (iron will) to never being seen again with one update at least the rest are ok changes imo ds didt need anymore changes though but thats just me

[@mathismng380]

Ds definitely needed a change if you were down close to the gate and had ds the killer could literally do nothing

[@squidjpeg9925]

Bbq is still worth using for the auras, but yeah they killed iron will

[@shockedshinx4092]

@@mathismng380 now that you mention it youre right that would be kinda broken if in a spot like that pair it with adrenaline and youd be almost invincable if you were unhooked after the gates were opened

[@Oh_Ehm_Gee]

wow, everything you said in this comment was wrong.

[@soulretriever8630]

Its great they do these changes but sadly people will complain and it will maybe go back to where it was before since you cannot satisfy everyone when making a change even the smallest ones

[@OldManEsteban]

these changes hurt me, but considering they could be worse eases the pain

[@hollow9946]

Just return the blood point bonus and I’ll be happy or make the blood point bonus base kit

[@isotopesreactor3019]

@@hollow9946 that’s actually not such a bad idea and tbh I’m genuinely more surprised they didn’t just go for that but remove the tokens to like 3 or 2 cuz the grind I think is getting cut more than just simply removing the tiers I’m not super sure.. but no yea. This is definitely a top tier must ask for changes to go along with the update when it’s ready.

[@hollow9946]

@@isotopesreactor3019 yeah I mean it would’ve fix the popularity for the perk if it became base kit and I wouldn’t mind only getting 2-3 tokens because it goes basekit

[@biancatorres5528]

I mean, an insane amount of people complained about the HUD changes and they still kept them so idk Maybe they'll keep these changes too.

[@liquid_scienc3935]

bro that tinkerer nerf is fkn HEAVYY

[@BigVince80bce]

Im not a huge fan of that nerf either, maybe they could've put a cooldown on tinkerer for 20 seconds or something.

[@fiddy5463]

I don’t think you saw the biggest change to decisive strike. It now deactivates when the exit gates are powered up. Didn’t know if you saw that or not.

[@hazelllove9154]

I was saying the same thing

[@Bizzy3663]

It’s so dumb smh every time they want to make it more of a bad perk

[@jadencore]

@@Bizzy3663 Current DS makes an escape with the gates up basically free. There is a reason it's getting nerfed.

[@impossibledoc6873]

due to all these future games that is coming out that could compete with dbd- they are making changes based on feedback of the players- smart move i would say. One thing about it there is always something itching to take the place of something else.

[@flyk]

Botany knowledge my baby! My non-medkit healing builds are safe and better than ever! I was worried when I heard that perk was getting changed since I run it on pretty much every build but I’m glad it’s in an even better spot than before.

[@not_a_og6191]

Let's not judge how this will impact the game before we even play it guys

[@SpaceAnomaly09]

Especially with the BBQ and WGLF nerfs because with the other updates they will reduce the grind by a lot.

[@hollow9946]

@@SpaceAnomaly09 not by a lot when they gave the 75% number they failed to take into account the BP bonus that the perk gave so its a lot less than 75% reduction

[@CenoriaWoah]

They tell us how.

[@Lyserg1260]

@@SpaceAnomaly09 WGLF will now add endurance effect for picked up survivor so it's still worth using

[@not_a_og6191]

@@CenoriaWoah just because it may sound bad/good on writing doesn't mean it'll be that way in practice

[@Mazerwolf]

They should make unhooked survivors not have collision with the killer for the duration of the Endurance if they actually want us to focus on the Survivor who unhooked them Edit: (The Unhooked Survivor would Bodyblock to waste your time)

[@amethystrose3480]

Exactly, especially with that new off the record. 80 whole seconds of endurance is nuts especially if they just follow the person who unhooked them if they were being chased.

[@rukka7640]

Couldn't agree more. The amount of Times I go towards the unhooker and the survivors still wants to bodyblock. Endurance should be a shield, not a weapon against killers

[@MickeyX2M]

with 5 seconds? if they bodyblock they are just going to die

[@rukka7640]

@@MickeyX2M Off the Record adds Up to 80 seconds, and BT still adds up to 10 seconds And yeah, if they do any of the actions it deactivates it, but if a SWF wants to be annoying and bully you, they will Besides, making survivors have no collision can help making some plays against killers that goes to tunnel them, like a dumb tech or something So with this idea, if you go to the unhooker, the unhooked survivor can't bodyblock or they will waste time trying it. If you go to the unhooked, they can walk through you, they can use the new DH after, they still can use DS, they still have loops to run and etc

[@MickeyX2M]

@@rukka7640 to be fair, it's almost as if they designed off the record specifically for this reason. What else would 80 seconds of endurance do with new basekit bt and bt buff

[@lxtnuc7080]

I haven't seen anyone mention the off the record change, I feel like everyone is gonna complain about it because it's basically old DS but with new DS's rules, 80 seconds of invincibility which is useless if the killer doesn't tunnel however I feel like people will abuse it like take a hit for whoever the killer is chasing or just keep body blocking so they'll probably end up nerfing it however I think it's a great change cause if you don't get tunnelled it's useless just like DS however if you do get tunnelled the killer can't just slug you for 60 seconds, he has to catch you all over again.

[@guck3562]

Wdym invincibility? It's just endurance. You only get to take 1 extra hit

[@BigVince80bce]

@@guck3562 temporary invincibility

[@lxtnuc7080]

@@guck3562 That's literally invincibility, for a whole 80 seconds you can run around the map, get I'm the killers face, bodyblock w.e & you're completely & utterly safe as long as you don't do any actions that are seen as progressing the match.

[@lxtnuc7080]

@@guck3562 Just like how people say with DS you're invincible for 60 seconds, because you are, but this is honestly a better DS, you can move around without the fear of being slugged, you get far more distance with a hit than with a DS stun, & it lasts 20 seconds longer, it'll 100% be the new DS even if they nerf the time, it's still better, this perk would still be better than current DS if it was 20 seconds.

[@quentin932]

It's rlly not abusing it by helping ur team to take hits

[@evehellod9776]

Only two changes I don’t like right now are Decisive Strike’s stun going to only three seconds, and then Iron Will to not work when Exhausted and only lowers your sound to 75% Sprint Burst will never work with Iron Will, and if you’re being tunnelled you sometimes need the five seconds to get away Spine Chill not applying to vaults is a bit sad as well, vault speed build can be fun

[@dDeckon]

For Pop: that's 20% of its Current Progress, not total Progress. ~Meaning if a Gen is at 42.5%: it doesn't go down 2.5+20 to 20%, it goes to 2.5+8 to 32%. It can still take a huge chunk off, but only if the gen has a lot of progress

[@hollow9946]

I wouldn’t say that they heavily reduced the grind they say they reduced it by 75% but they’re failing to take into account the extra blood point you would get from the 2 perks, I don’t have the exact numbers but with would be significantly less than 75%

[@hollow9946]

Did I say I hate the bonus blood point nerf?

[@drshepherd6567]

I sometimes could get to 100k BP with the right setup and good match. And with bonus weekends that was 300k BP PER MATCH! I am not sure if this nerf was necessary.

[@hollow9946]

@@drshepherd6567 granted you get lucky with a blood hunt and you get a good match so maybe NOT all matches lol

[@doorsday147]

if they didnt take into account the removed bp bonus, why would they bring up about the grind reduction every time they bring up the removal of a bp bonus? why would you make an argument with evidence you havent even looked at?

[@hollow9946]

@@doorsday147 because they assume players wouldn’t realise lol

[@Jokrxdd]

i already use hope, so im super excited to see it get a buff. definitely gonna try new "off the record" as well

[@poifish7442]

genuinely thought this is one of those bait "would-be-nice-if" videos, but this too real

[@stefan_no]

Thanks for giving an overview on this. Would have been interesting to hear more of your thoughts on the individual perk changes!

[@Arrtthur]

I am loving these tbh, I dont really play dbd anymore but maybe this will bring me back

[@JustFrank27]

Decisive strike suffered way more than just reducing the stun. Canceled by the conspicuous action and when the door are powered on. DS was great to escape a tunneling killer playing with NOED in the end game. Now, it's not even worth it to carry because of the BT base kit and because of the cancelation when the doors are powered on.

[@basicgiraffology3709]

welp, Im kinda bummed out by that spine chill change making it be line of sight. I liked having the perk because I really struggle with invis killers and having that early warning system has saved my life so much

[@thedoomslayer5863]

It's to stop noob survivors from using it as a crutch Not fun being a stealth killer and one fucking perk completely negates your power

[@basicgiraffology3709]

@@thedoomslayer5863 that makes sense when you put it like that

[@DeathhAngel1]

@@thedoomslayer5863 im surprised YT didnt delete your comment with those bad words. I cant even say something remotely mean without being shadow deleted

[@DeathhAngel1]

@@thedoomslayer5863 fucking

[@LittleMsJester01]

I’m a pretty new player. And I admit, seeing the bloodpoints being removed is really off putting for me. With the matchmaking so poor, getting those extra bloodpoints really helped. The times I’ve gone against someone ridiculously good, the one redemption was that at least it didn’t feel a waste. I at least got s couple of hooks or a couple of saves. It actually encouraged me to bodyblock and go for saves. Without the bloodpoints, I probably won’t use those perks anymore.

[@Craiguuu]

This is amazing, Ive been playing since launch and I think this update has me more excited to play the game than any chapter ever could

[@dwuckiesvr]

TBH I see a lot of people complaining. I mean I get some shit is disappointing, thats how its always gunna be. But it just seems like people who use every last one of these perks in their build, and aren't willing to try anything new. are the ones complaining. At the end of the day Im actually excited for these updates. Sure they nerf some things but Im excited for build variety and not being like, "What variation of the meta perk build am I gunna get". Like I wanna be surprised by what people are using LMAO. The game gets hella boring when I can read of every survivors perk in the first minute of the game, same goes for killer.

[@Simply_Sania]

Thank you, I agree

[@hollow9946]

I mean if they did want people running bbq and chilli for the extra BP they could’ve just made it base kit😞

[@smileybones9172]

I'm not pleased with all of the changes. But if these patchnotes go live as they are now, I'll go from someone who quit dbd and refused to spend another cent on it, to someone who will play it all day again.

[@nonplussedgoblin945]

the only perk im annoyed at is iron will, like its useless now

[@landz9921]

Pop goes the weasel was 25% TOTAL gen progress, now its 20% CURRENT progress

[@mutantpanda278]

Corrupt Intervention: 2 mins of (mediocre) game stall or no 1st hook, take it or leave it

[@KiinyoWest]

I don't understand the point of removing the BP bonuses from those two perks and it's not like they don't give BP out like candy anyway. Why not just leave them with the BP? It feels like they felt as if they had to mess with those two perks just to say, "Hey, we did something to them!" It just feels super unnecessary. The only difference between those two and lets say bloody party streamers are you have to get stacks on the perks instead of just existing in the game.

[@BroanderRentner]

the intention is to give people motivation to run more diverse perk builds i guess. so that not EVERYONE is playing these just because they give bloodpoints. i have days where every killer i go against uses bbq and half of my team we're gonna live forever and 95% of the survivors have bt and deadhard along that. the whole perk overhaul is working towards that you probably will see a way more wide variety in games and it doesnt feel so repetitive seeing every perk again and again and again on every survivor. Hopefully it will make the matches feel more unique when people get a little more creative with their perk choice

[@Amon_Gus906]

I love the fact now that I can parry nemesis’ fist with dead hard

[@PepsiChan205]

Hex ruin perk the nerf they did is rlly nice but I'm questioning if it should be a normal perk and not a hex? Or atleast have the hex rlly hard to find atleast

[@Robcart_Downey_Junyart]

If they made it a normal perk and not a hex that would be game breaking, constant regression any time they aren't doing a gen? It would either make gen rushing happen all the time or give survivors a bad chance of actaully finishing the gen

[@impossibledoc6873]

guess thats why they made the brine perk normal and not a hex .

[@PepsiChan205]

@@Robcart_Downey_Junyart yea ur right, it just I was thinking since a survivor dies it will deactivate but ye it would be rlly strong

[@PepsiChan205]

@@impossibledoc6873 I totally forgot about that perk srry xd

[@OldManEsteban]

i only use one NOED with slinger and trickster and sometimes bubba when im in bad mood

[@heathh7700]

Kinda sad that BBQ is getting nerfed, but it is offset by the grind being reduced. I've been using the doctor with a BP farm build and BBQ was a mainstay. Glad to see Dead Hard and Decisive Strike getting nerfed. Hopefully get to see more creativity among survivor perks

[@everythingpony]

The grind isnt reduce it was increased by 50%

[@FoxFIESTAloha]

Damn, I am quite interested to see how the game is as both Killer and Survivor with these changes. Thanks for the briefing Rapid C:

[@pineapplerl2963]

I like most changes, i don’t really like the blood point removal on BBQ and WGLF. With the grind reduction, it seems to be tailored towards just perks, but I wanna see my inventory stacked on items too. 😭. That’s just me being entitled to my bloodpoints tho.

[@WompaStompaCyn]

So they removed the one thing anyone ever took WGLF for and didn't add anything to make it an actually useful perk. Should have just changed the whole perk.

[@LND209]

I don't like some of the changes, but I think it's good for the game. It shows us that the developers are actually doing something to try to make the game more fun, which is fine with me. I'd rather have fun In a broken game than misery in a great game.

[@kirifps]

They really need to revert iron will to 100% or make all survivors sound equal, pointless nerf

[@bant3565]

its literally useless now, you cant go for flashlight saves anymore if the killer has a brain and a headset, taking the fun out of the game making me sit on gens instead, yea i prob wont be playing for awhile untill they change it or something

[@xymidori]

@@bant3565 same :/

[@kirifps]

@@bant3565 Yea I can see my flashlight becoming primarily a movement tool now, saves will be rare

[@Lyserg1260]

If they wanted to nerf it, keep it at 100% for every tier (no one uses it at lower tiers anyway) but just make it time based. Let's say it works for 30/45/60 seconds after being injured so you still have some time to hide from a killer.

[@kirifps]

@@Lyserg1260 good idea

[@sheridanmcavoy3817]

remember, it was stated that the killer to surivior ratio is supposed to be 1 to 4. As of currently, it's 1 to 30....

[@kingdavid530]

Love the smg title screen music in the background

[@davidschreck1321]

BHVR: “this perk is actually useful. Let’s fix that.”

[@vsspiderman]

I see some people being sad about the iron will nerf, and I believe it will really only impact loud survivors, Bill, Steve, Ash etc. Quiet survivors like ace still are almost completely quiet.

[@kojinooni]

BASEMENT BUBBA! Now Bubba gets to use scourge hooks while in the basement OMG!

[@mexicanduck4959]

Ayo rapid love your vids, i also have a question, and i want your honest opinion so you know how bbq is getting the blood point bonus removed right well what if they leave like a slight blood point bonus like maybe 15% blood point bonus or 20 something really small anyways like i said love your vids :)

[@ryanmitchell9583]

NOT THE BBQ BLOODPOINTS!!!!

[@BasementDweller_]

I just love the discord thumbnails.

[@jackytris2874]

I’m just wondering if there will be a visual queue for dead hard, because if not, we’re just going to be baiting it without knowing they: 1. Have it 2. Have used 3. They are going to use it I’m afraid this will lead to even worse dead hard standoffs.

[@olal9904]

I feel the same way. wish they would've just changed the whole perk

[@emmahorton3466]

they said in a twitter reply it will still have an animation when activated

[@olal9904]

@@emmahorton3466 but if you're mid swing you still can't react

[@emmahorton3466]

@@olal9904 true, but they did also change cooldowns for missed basic attacks. I'm waiting for next week to see, before making too many judgements :)

[@olal9904]

@@emmahorton3466 you wouldn't miss a basic attack. you would hit them, boom, literal third health state. I'll be cautionsly optimistic, but it would be so much better if they just changed it.

[@WockhartEnthusiast]

really just hope the chase changes balance things out enough for killers, because as of now its worrisome how low morale is on the killer side of the game. I love playing killer but once i hit a certain MMR i've found that its nearly impossible for me to win or even get more than a single kill unless i use someone super meta like huntress or nurse.

[@kingegg4994]

I’m really sad they aren’t reworking furtive chase

[@theprincipal2994]

The botany knowledge buff is fucking crazy. It's strange that they nerfed self-care but gave a buff to botany, which can be paired up with self-care to give you around an 82% heal rate. Pair botany with a med kit, and it will actually be ridiculous. Med kits are already nuts, but imagine the 50% heal rate 💀 Not to mention boons still existing. I enjoyed a lot of perk changes, especially with jolt, but I also have some problems with other perks they're reworking, like off the record. 80 seconds of the endurance status effect (aka borrowed time) seem hella broken. Could you imagine Dwight being a fucking tank, by taking two hits for Claudette? It's like metal of man, but no work is required to activate it. It's also crazy, since you can be healed by another survivor and still keep the 80 second borrowed time. In honesty, this makes decisive strike look weak. Don't get me wrong, I love this new rework, but there's always going to be broken shit BHVR will come up with, so I hope they will listen to the community and release these perks in the PTB. That way, players have time to test it and actually see how strong some of these perks are. Also, R.I.P., iron will and Hex:Ruin 😔🙏

[@wooba1207]

Can't believe they're deleting Spine Chill from the game.

[@daekwonrose3160]

This only KZbinr with a brain that recognized why Self-care was changed.

[@mizter5597]

Im gonna need to start bringing moris to deal with all this endurance nonsense. I get they want people to use other perks and they want to prevent tunneling but I feel like I'm going to have to start sweating just to get a minimum 3k now. I wish they would make it so that the endurance effect removes collision with the killer so that people can't just bodyblock for free

[@theprincipal2994]

I'm debating if the Dead-Hard "nerf" was actually a nerf. I feel like the new DH will really shine when vaulting a window. Imagine this, you can't reach the window, and you press [E] the fraction of a second, before doing a fast vault. The killer hits you bc they have enough distance to hit you through a fast vault, but instead of you going down, you get a mini sprint burst, and now your miles away. In my head, this isn't a nerf. The perk still seems extremely strong when using it for pallets and windows. The killer is still stuck in the situation wondering if the user activated DH and if they should hit them through a window or not. It clearly states in the perk that you gain a one-second worth of the endurance status effect. That's enough time to activate it and vault a window or pallet. So now instead of seeing you dead hard, the killer can't see shit, and instead it's a 50/50. Either hit the survivor through the window or pallet, and they've already activated DH, and they sprint burst away and go mend, or they don't have DH, and you're free to down them. This wasn't a nerf, it was a semi rework. DH is still extremely strong, even stronger than the old DH when it comes to Pallets and window situations. I can see myself really using this perk to its full potential. Now killers have to be worried when swinging for windows and pallets.

[@CaptToilet]

Nerfed in a way that you can't dead hard through traps or doctors electricity anymore. Other than that it is the same ole same ole. It will still be used for distance due to the sprint burst and an extra health state due to Endurance

[@dylankersten3383]

Your locked in an animation with new dh

[@AJakaBlank]

thank god the deadhard nerf we've all been waiting for

[@roanarmb]

I hope it comes way sooner

[@UniverseCorn]

Overcharge + Call of Brine + Bubba = win

[@OldManEsteban]

hurrr *chainsaw goes brrr*

[@that_feech_fellow5878]

I’m glad they did this Even if the changes are a slight negative to the gameplay, I just need something new.

[@alvaro5839]

Pop is not only down to 20%, it's 20% of CURRENT gen progress and not total

[@Sun_TzuOfficial]

The dead hard nerf is dumb considering delay

[@Mizaxa]

I like a lot of these changes but the only one that I really hate is the spine chill one the perk is now completely useless unless you're in line with the killer I would understand if they decrease the range of spine chill which would have been the proper way to nerf it but instead they completely broke the perk and it will be completely unused now

[@ags8507]

incoming off the record meta, dayum

[@TheLegendXXVII]

So, when will this go live?

[@faffywhosmilesatdeath5953]

To have a 75% reduction in grind it's absolutely worth losing bp gain on bbq and WGLF. I mean at least on the killer side it's good that bbq is useful, because if we just had to run it for the bp that would be awful.

[@major8096]

Wait if it gonna make all basements hook "white" does it mean other scourge effects will work ? if yes it gonna be cracked

[@calebferguson7034]

the haste effect on unhooks willbe good it will stop those face camping killers

[@kratosauron1678]

I dont really believe "dead harding for distance" is completely gone. Whats to stop a survivor from activating to ensure no matter what the killer does they make the window, or pallet. Hit them, they run off at mach speed. Dont hit them, now you gotta go around a wall, or take a pallet to the face, or break a pallet. It'll take a bit more skill than it does now but its not gone completely

[@slippers8000]

I have some thoughts but i'm gonna wait until ptb. Am excited though that they're actually willing to do these big changes after so long. I'm hoping for more game health updates to revitalize the opinion of the game.

[@monke6395]

I am the happiest ma- I mean monke here that dead hard is being nerfed. When does this update take place for consoles?

[@manzariat7523]

Overall it's great, however I think Pop's nerf was not fair, they already nerfed it once, and as for new DH, I think it has potential to be even more broken than what it is now.

[@HubbieRobbie]

Do we have a date for all these changes?

[@HubbieRobbie]

Wensday the 20th

[@HubbieRobbie]

Thanks!

[@CaptToilet]

You say base BT is a good change and while it is for the tunnel aspect I don't forsee it being a good change for end game. You hook someone after exit gates are open, someone can very easily unhook them and it is a free escape. Unless BT magically turns off which I don't recall reading about. Slugging at end game is going to be a bigger thing I feel. Also if BT perk stacks with base BT then it is most certainly GG.

[@CatzuZ]

Only change I hate is the iron will nerf, they coulda made the nerf a better nerf instead of just ruining it completely. Otherwise, I don't mind the other changes, and will be interested in how the new "meta" will change.

[@blargminton]

the title: exists CoH: "heh"

[@FISH_IN_COAT]

LETS GO NEW RAPIDMAIN VID

[@sushiroll7329]

Love your content keep the good work up!!!😇😇

[@WrathfulCat585]

They need to add an astronaut costume for Billy

[@lakthederg]

1:52 HUGE CHANGE MISSED!! Reduced 20% of CURRENT progress, not total gen amount! If a gen’s at 80%, it won’t go down to 60%, it will go down to 20% of 80%! Vid’s great otherwise, just wanted to make sure people knew!

[@Gomenad]

I like both roles but come on these survivor buffs don't balance out with the nerfs and I like the killer changes tho😁

[@olal9904]

yeah, they don't. that's the point

[@kiwidervorgel1314]

Bro. Fucking finally

[@just_roo5483]

F for selfcare

[@amnahaziz3213]

At leats now you won’t really want to waste your time on healing

[@ImLectric]

I thought it said that Pop Goes The Weasel is going to remove 20% of the gen's current progress, not 20% of the genl

[@wizzy3532]

When will this all come out is my question, I have no idea when

[@A7Huxeno]

Prove thyself not touched? I mean , there's boon circle of healing too. Self care=1 person health while boon=all team health jn a certain place. I think that boon healing should be nerfed too

[@facecampingbubba4656]

Overcharge and eruption are pretty strong now especially if it’s ran with pop. Overall a great rework. They’re doing a pretty good job so far.

[@maxsiqueira666]

Yeees

[@tonyzcow8766]

For iron will I’d make it only work while crouching and or walking

[@lxtnuc7080]

Only things I don't agree with are the iron will, wglf & bbq nerfs, just because they're reducing the grind doesn't mean they need to nerf the perks, getting an average of 20k a game isn't gonna be fun for anyone, & iron will isn't even meta, it's only good against bad killers or if the survivor knows how to loop/break los well, with the iron will nerf I guarantee you'll be seeing a lot more aces & Kate's since with 75% they'll still be borderline silent.

[@bewarethebat0]

The one I'm very confused about is self care. Like that wasn't even meta

[@nonplussedgoblin945]

fr nobody used it bc how slow it was and they went and made it slower wth

[@ryanmitchell9583]

I saw the discord notification and I clicked on it so fast dude

[@Strongguy94]

WGLF has built in Soul Guard, while BBQ is left to rot. GTFO.

[@Prez_1]

no prove thyself or resilience change?

[@simplycinclair8979]

I’m bummed about BBQ, I needa know how the grind is nerfed first

[@itsOasus]

The Dead Hard meta will be officially dead

[@gentlyvillainous]

Yeah it will actually be a skill based perk now.

[@Boomstck]

A huge change that you didn't mention regarding DS, is it is de-activated when exit gates are opened!

[@olal9904]

powered, not opened

[@olal9904]

@Jeekae yes, or hatch is closed

[@olal9904]

@Jeekae how?

[@olal9904]

@Jeekae these are all fantastic changes

[@olal9904]

@Jeekae these are all balanced changes. you're just mad your overpowered bullshit is being taken away. get good, please.

[@p4l4d1n7]

so why didnt they just remove wglf?

[@Redmmanthenab]

I´m so sad about the removal of extra BP´s of BBQ and WGLF :c I mean... I understand the reason why but... :c

[@MemerGottem]

me too bro:(

[@hollow9946]

I don’t like the reason why give me my damn blood points>:(

[@Lyserg1260]

WGLF is going to get endurance effect for picked up survivors, so it will still be worth running. Not fan of BP bonus removal from both perks though. If they wanted to get rid of it due to decreased grind they should just cap it at 50% instead of 100%, would still be good.

[@jadedkratos5528]

The NOED change is pointless as I'm always running Detectives Hunch and destroying all the totems, not only does this allow me to destroy any and all hex perks currently in play it prevents the ever irritating Boon perks from being used and prevents NOED from ever spawning at the end game collapse. My totem trashing saves my team's ass and pisses them off at the same time because they can't use their precious Circle Jerk (Circle of Healing). I usually have all the totems destroyed as the 2nd or 3rd generator pops. I find the Iron Will change pointless as I don't run exhaustion perks as my builds usually are used to rescue, heal other survivors and myself and to trash totems. My builds usually have Borrowed Time, Desperate Measures, Self Care & Detectives Hunch. I run Self Care because I can't always rely on teammates to heal me so I get into cover and boost heal thanks to Desperate Measures and its amplification effect. Coulrophobia & Thanatophobia is looking pretty sexy. I'm working on a Phobia Clown build and it will be sexy as hell to combine it with Unnerving Presence.

[@jerome496]

ur not the only person who plays this game, not everyone runs detectives hunch or no exhaustion perks

[@jadedkratos5528]

@@jerome496 Don't you think I know I'm not the only one who plays this game? [rolls eyes]

[@cruzx96]

cant wait so many metas in this update that werent viable before

[@doogleleafenthusiast]

Insidious in the distance