Revelation - Bibledex

[@DFLaval]

This is a respectful analysis of this book. You did not get off on the tangent of looking for the anti-christ. Thank you for maintaining your sense of professionalism throughout. I found this because of how much I respect your work in Sixty Symbols.

[@trespire]

Behind him is a cross roads junction between routs 65 and 66. Its called Megido Junction one could call it a "hight of imperfection" in the Jewish tradition because of trafic congestion every morning and evening. The Massiah will arrive before the junction is improved.

[@safibn1]

Thank you very much for the series. I greatly enjoyed it. Also, I loved the added music in this video, and it made me laugh, contrasting the professor's version of Hallelujah and the real one. I look forward for more videos!

[@Sasukegrl12]

I've read in some places that people back during that time believed that Nero was going to come back, so that could explain it.

[@woobmonkey]

'Usually' is not the same as 'always.' 'Usually,' it's a good idea to not conflate terms. Though I agree with what your point seems to be, it's important to be as precise as possible with critiques. This is the essence of honesty - and the hallmark of civil debate.

[@BIindsid3]

I love the sound of the organ with the harmonic vocals behind it. Since I became an atheist I haven't been to church in a while so I have forgotten how moving that music is to me. One of the things I would never have guessed I would miss about dropping religion.

[@entoris476]

Absolute smashing video!! Great series of videos, So what are you planning on doing, now that you finished all the books?

[@pjwils]

When it comes to the New Testament, the idea that the *gospel accounts* were written to be symbolic/allegorical stories is just flawed. The gospel books are clearly intended to be read as historical accounts. The Book of Acts is explicitly a historical book. Likewise in the old testament, the books are either books of poetry, history, law etc. The whole "Bible is one big symbolic story used to teach people stuff" view is based on misunderstanding of the structure and character of the Bible.

[@lurkern]

Good work Brady! your videos are the best, looking forward to see your new projects. sixty symbols got me hooked, and now all this, sure keeps me occupied :)

[@tcampbell02tc]

I know most of you probably arn't going to read this, but next week I turn, 16, and i want to become a walrus. I know there's a million people out there just like me, but i promise you im different. On December 14th, im moving to Antartica (home of the greatest walruses). I'v already cut off my arms, and now slide on my stomach everywhere i go as training. I may not be a walrus yet, but i promise you if you give me a chance and the support i need, i will become the greatest walrus.

[@klebics]

Are you going to do a series on the codes in the Bible e.g. the very middle verse in the Bible was something significant in the Psalms (can't remember :P) or how John 6:66 is "From that time many of His followers no longer followed Him"... Dang, i forgot what it's called, but it's like a specialized study for "cracking the code" in the Bible.....

[@OozoTheClown]

Generally considered the most common phrase in the Bible (about 350 times) is "Do not be afraid" which could also be translated to "Don't panic" ;)

[@traswill]

Great series! I'd love to see some Church history as a future series, if that is a possibility.

[@Mortem6616]

In the Numberphile video titled "666" you mentioned the little known number that i had come accross several years ago, 616. In this video (from 3:33 on), you mentioned Revelations chapter 16 and the 6th angel (so a 6 and a 16). My question is, Was there any particular reason as to why you chose that verse, or was it just a play on the 616 number?

[@HConstantine]

@2camjohn I don't know where you got that. its only in late mss. Irenaeus does mention it quite early, but he already points out its a mistake.

[@bibledex]

@nimrod379 thanks... I hoped you found more videos you liked....

[@mattbox87]

I'll never regret reading the bible, especially revelation; it convinced me of my morality, agnosticism and opposition to religion.

[@ZipplyZane]

One of the basics of any philosophy is that there will be paradoxes, parts that seemingly contradict and require you to think about and resolve them. When someone says the Bible doesn't contradict itself, they mean that it is possible to make a coherent philosophy out of the text. This isn't as big a deal as these people claim, of course. And you could have said that instead of attacking the guy. If you actually were going to prove anything, you should have show that this trait is not unique.

[@usermans2007]

@anthonythirteen Both numbers are given in early manuscripts of Revelation. It is notable that 616 corresponds to the Greek rendering of Nero Caesar (rather than the Hebrew rendering which adds up to 666).

[@Supersamazing]

Very keen to watch more. Thanks !

[@bibledex]

@SeiferOptics Cheers, you're just the sort of person these videos are for.... We've done all the books of the Bible now but have some plans for more, so stay tuned.

[@AlanRussellFuller]

@Denver1928 That is a little misleading since the oldest existing manuscripts only date to the 4th or 5th century. In the 2nd century Irenaeus wrote that 666 is the correct number, not 616.

[@joeskis]

Growing up as a Christian I always loved the idea of Revelations being about our future and the end of the era that people are currently in. I've been a little reluctant to let go of that perspective since learning about the true purpose of Revelations. It's a bit of a let down.

[@megatron199605]

I´m not certain about a 666 - Nero thing, because John wrote the Revelations around 96 AC, when Dominitanius was the ruler, and after him Nerva. Nero died in 68 AC, so it would be unlogical for John to refer to Nero with the number 666.

[@porsche911sbs]

so what's next? videos discussing the major characters of the Bible? videos about the Koran or the Avesta?

[@BggProductions]

Thanks to Vsauce and Numberphile for bringing me here.

[@ZipplyZane]

The explanation that 666 is just the number of evil and imperfection doesn't work because the original manuscripts have 616. I would have expected these guys to know that. And that's why the Nero interpretation is so strong--there are two different spellings of Nero's name, and one produces 616 while the other 666. And it does so just using the straightforward rules of Jewish mysticism, not some convoluted meaning.

[@trespire]

That green hill is actually what is called a "TEL" which translates to "mound". These TEL are mounds of remains built up over hundreds of years by new settlements being built in older ones on the same site. Har Megido itself is near by.

[@MyKingofdiamonds]

Alas, I am unable to provide links to things that I learned in college history classes. I am sure that, if you research it a bit, you can find info about the historicity of the later Hebrew books.

[@ryanogle1127]

There were 40 authors and it was written over a period of about 1,600 years all continuing the same concepts and morals without ever contradicting any previous text. Man simply cannot do that alone.

[@wesmatron]

Just a personal gripe...there's no 's' on the end of Revelation. There isn't one on the end of Bridge Over Troubled Water either :)

[@traltixx]

I wonder what they think of the Baha'i interpretation of the book of revelation?

[@HConstantine]

@anthonythirteen And where has this been published? The apparatus in the Nestle-Aland lists nothing before the 4th century.

[@Neeboopsh]

any particular thing which is not true that you are referring to?

[@DarkRaimundo]

Very Interesting! I enjoy watching your videos!

[@Satarack]

one thing not mentioned here is that not all manuscripts agree on 666 being the number of the beast, some of the manuscripts of revelations instead have 616.

[@bibledex]

@entoris476 I don't know yet... There's plenty more I'd like to do but will have a chat with the theology people... They might be sick of me by now! :)

[@smbhax]

The last two bits are particularly good. :)

[@Jragonmiris]

Does anyone know where it says it's symbolic and needs interpretation? I believe them, I just can't find it.

[@RMoribayashi]

I agree. Whether you insist your holy books are history books like Judaism, Christianity and Islam or metaphor and parable like Hinduism and (most) Buddhism, they all suppose the existence of a higher power in some form whose existance cannot be proved.

[@ryanogle1127]

There are sensible explanations when you include what the whole Bible says instead of passage vs. passage. I'm not gonna pretend I have the perfect explanation for everything, but I am certain in God and the Bible. "I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me." -Prov 8:17

[@MyKingofdiamonds]

The Bible's root can be translated into Library. They are all separate stories that flow together as if one story, at least the Hebrew Bible. While most of the early stories maybe myth, there is archaeological proof for things that happened during and following the rule of King David. Such stories include the rule of Solomon, the exile to Babylon,ext.

[@mrsticky005]

Actually it is not explicitly said that Armageddon is the location of the "final battle" in Revelation. What the passage says is that it was the gathering place of the Kings of the world who were deceived by demonic spirits and activity. The gathering could have been for battle or it could be for the preparation of battle. Also Joel 3:2 says that God gathers all the nations at the Valley of Jehoshaphat to be judged. But is that the final battle or aftermath? It's hard to say.

[@pjwils]

whatever the purpose of each individual book is

[@ZipplyZane]

Now that's a legitimate problem I had not heard before. I have also heard, like Riley J, that some thought Nero would come back, but I don't know about that. But, having looked up the dating of Revelation, I see that what you are referring to is the "late" date, and there are problems with it. Revelation refers to a still living sixth emperor, which would be Nero. Furthermore, it refers to Jerusalem and its temple as if they were still standing, which dates it before 70 AD.

[@drosprey]

great work

[@mystarmach]

Should be stated though, this Trinitarian doctrine first appears as a debate among theologians around ~300 CE, and first declared official doctrine (in a rudimentary form) in May of 325 CE in Nicea. From there the Nicean formula was generationally developed, particularly by Marcellus and Anthanasius, which is why it first became a prominent doctrine in Greek Orthodoxy, and features less so in Roman Catholicism/Protestantism.

[@Neeboopsh]

I wouldn't argue you are trolling personally. But "not finding meaning" isn't why i am an atheist. Its not about something having some personal meaning. its about being verifiable to be likely true. and that is it. for all i know, someone could get meaning from hallucinations or from misinformed ideas of reality, or even for not seriously believing but still professing a belief etc. Stories written down decades after (at best) aren't good enough to substantiate claims especially if they disagree

[@RMoribayashi]

And just how was my comment a troll? I was trying to point out that many atheists act as if no one has ever addressed their arguments before. Every faith has answers to both the simple and the profound questions. There is a difference between dismissing all religion out of hand and not finding meaning in it's premise or teachings. It is anyone's right to do either though, just as it is their right to believe in the faith of their choice.

[@Nelster]

Jesus' divinity is referred to in terms besides "son of God". For example 2 Peter 1:1 refers to Jesus as "Our God and savior" and Hebrews 1:8 interprets an Old Testament verse as God talking to Jesus calling Jesus God. So the early Christians definitely thought of Jesus as divine. Hope this answers your question, cheers.

[@dwells1986]

I think it does my man. Now that we know that answer, we just have to figure out the question.

[@coolpiraterapstar]

So why trust any book over a 100 years old? You shouldn't trust a story merely because of age, nor should you dismiss it for the same reason. Many things are believed to have happened in history and we have to trust the documents we have available. Some can be proven via artifacts and such, but many events cannot be.

[@ryanogle1127]

can you prove any contradiction?

[@jooborrego4]

Actually, a small indie production tried it a few years ago, and in my opinion, it was not only a terrible interpretation of Revelations, but was also a terrible movie on acting, CGI, and plot... It's Called Megiddo : The Omega Code...

[@wesmatron]

@SeiferOptics I always get the impression that Revelation is the book of the Bible that even atheists enjoy. A rip-snorting tale of intrigue, demons, secret codes, all topped off with a big battle. The story of Moses is good, but Hollywood missed a trick not doing Revelation. We have the CGI for it now too.

[@S3V3RI7Y]

Reading Edgar Cayce's interpretation of the book of Revelation (of JESUS CHRIST) ((mentioned in the FIRST verse...)) is very interesting... Check it out if you want another interesting interpretation of this incredible book...

[@RMoribayashi]

I am an atheist, who has studied many faiths. You're trying to reconcile a contradiction the greatest thinkers of all religions have struggled with. How can there be an all knowing being who grants mankind free will. The Christian explanation is that grace is granted by God, not by faith or good deeds. I personally like the Hindu idea that God became the Universe (including us) and in the process forgot he did it so he could more fully participate in his creation. How could God go to Hell?

[@am1903]

a nice comentary i read about the number of the beast is the following 666 is spelled in the original text as χξς the first and last letters of the word christ χ(ριστό)ς enclosing the snake like letter ξ so 666 is someone who looks and behaves like the christ but is actually a serpant

[@ImAzraa]

For catholics that is.As I understand, no form of protestantism accepts the holy trinity. And according to the Bible, Jesus is not supposed to be worshipped, he came with humility and bearing a message to direct people to God, therefore it is alright presenting respect and admiration to Christ, but the worship is to God. Although, in catholic custom, Jesus is part of God as well, and you can understand the confusion there. Cheers from a fellow atheist

[@Yodulz]

10:40 The Bible says that God created the world in 6 days not 7, he rested on the 7th day apparently.

[@ChickenEatYeti]

She was fully willing to bear God's only child and was fully aware of everything that came with it... So no.

[@KeyOfAm]

Starting 4:30, I felt like he hinted a bit of sarcasm

[@SgtMcCuddles]

very very interesting! thanks biblical scholars!

[@LuisSanabriaRodriguez]

Great video!

[@virusdanger1984]

good one

[@pjwils]

Well the Bible couldn't have been written as one big story, intended to be read together. The books were canonised at different points, and only gathered together into what we now call "the bible" in the 4th century (a document called the Latin Vulgate).

[@PookaRua]

11:25 66.6 mpg. The mileage of 'The Beast'. :P

[@riastrad]

What a crazy coincidence with the number plate! Contrary to all logical thinking it still gives me the creeps!

[@jmbrant2]

did anyone else laugh at 5:33 at the 42?

[@BartBania]

shouldn't ANYTHING in the Bible be interpreted according to past events that already happened? In my opinion, anything from the Book of Revelation is just mere description of what happened in the times the writer lived. It has nothing to do with prophecies and future...

[@ryanogle1127]

1. His anger will persist as long as there is sin which has not been repented of. 2. God TESTED Abraham in his faith which is different from tempting man with falling to sin. 3. It is both Faith and Works. (James 2:14-26). 4. "God" can refer to the Holy Spirit, Jesus, or God (The Father) himself. Jesus says nobody has ever seen the Father (John 6:46). Those who were appeared to saw either the Holy Spirit or ,more likely, Jesus.

[@MyKingofdiamonds]

The problem with that is that one person's good maybe another person's bad and vice versa. Then which is good is the real good? And of course they believed there was a god. That god would have been Jesus... at least the New Testament. The writers were all influenced by Jesus and said that he is the son of God. Therefore, they had to believe in God.

[@HConstantine]

@2camjohn I see this comes via Wikipedia. Tracking down the sources they do not go back before the late third century, which is not early, and can hardly be preferred to Irenaeus comments (about 100 years earlier) in this case. Just another case of the popular press running after a 'science and the bible' story.

[@kendellp17]

Thanks.

[@crazyliclay]

wait what about 4 6s

[@AlanRussellFuller]

(666)Six wasn't always bad. ...And they say that the embryo is perfected exactly in the sixth month, that is, in one hundred and eighty days in addition to the two and a half, as Polybus the physician relates in his book On the Eighth Month, and Aristotle the philosopher in his book On Nature. Hence the Pythagoreans, as I think, reckon six the perfect number, from the creation of the world, according to the prophet... Clement of Alexandria, The Stromata, or Miscellanies, Book VI CHAPTER XVI

[@chaseueno9234]

I'm glad I read this.

[@esper86]

Earth should have been called "Sim Heaven"

[@GorgMasterReturn]

Nice

[@nickrich56]

DCLXVI is 666 in Roman numerals ... X E F in Greek ... not sure about Hebrew. Arabic numbers are what we use but John probably didn't. Getting a name out of those combinations is a head scratcher. But if you can pronounce them in their original tounge you might be suprised what you hear. I can't maybe someone reading this can. We'll hear it soon enough anyway.

[@arsenelupin123]

If revelation were written today, it would probably be written by a troll.

[@GorgMasterReturn]

v good

[@woobmonkey]

You're thinking of omniscience, not omnipotence.

[@hahaloseless1]

Are you all actually Christians? Just wondering =P

[@giglymeshtalrac]

sorry but i have great knoledge and study in this area and it is not true

[@x42brown]

@bibledex I would have thought that if anyone was sick of you it would be Neil.

[@sistermicrowave]

Its all very good as long as you don't believe any of it is actually true!

[@ryanogle1127]

Well I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope that you would at give him a chance and honestly search for yourself. I will be praying.

[@usermans2007]

@anthonythirteen

[@ZipplyZane]

And, yes, you are by definition not thinking for yourself because you didn't actually do any thinking. You linked a video. A video might be able to make arguments, but it is you who has to take those arguments and apply them. That you couldn't do so in text form does not do well to mean you actually thought about them and tried to disprove them, like a thinking person would. And I don't even think the Bible doesn't contradict itself. I just hate antitheists like you.

[@cablecar10]

What every liberal church has said about it since it was written. :3 Just sayin'.

[@kevinriche]

if your a mason u kno wussup....lol...with all your knowledge you kno nadda

[@Talpanda]

Too bad.

[@Talpanda]

That's not even a proper joke. Next time try to look up the definition of high fantasy.