Bicep Tendon Rupture. 3 Weeks Post Op (Update)

[@waldenwagner9940]

Distal bicep tear (complete) left arm back in Mar (2024); repair surgery a little over two weeks later. Cast, then brace (each for a few weeks). I have a few more months until near complete recovery; however, I have full range of motion now and some strength back. What help significantly, was working on my range of motion soon after the surgery. I did not take any pain medicine (post-surgery)…it subsided after about a week. I participate in physical therapy once a week. Both the [excellent] orthopedic surgeon and [excellent] physical therapist are kind of amazed at my progress. To everyone experiencing this, please keep a positive mental attitude…you can overcome it and get back to your normal life. The same mental strength helped me back in 1986 when I almost lost my leg…I was able to complete the remaining 12 years of a 20 year career in the U.S. Army. Good luck to all, God bless, and a huge thank you to the doctors and staff at the James Haley VA Hospital in Tampa, Florida!

[@mjpwooo]

I’m in Tampa and just had the surgery performed at Florida orthopedic. Who was your therapist?

[@boverton72]

I am 3 weeks post surgery, mine was half-torn. They did the cut and repair, with the button drilled into the bone. The plan my Surgeon gave me is as follows -> 2-weeks sling, 2-weeks in brace at 50Degrees range of motion, then 2-weeks in brace at 100% range of motion, then remove brace and start light use...

[@ricos4700]

Great video. Thanks. I'm getting ready to have this done in the next few weeks. I've had 3 shoulder surgeries but not the biceps. Has been bad for years. Just recently flared up from all the labor I did on my home. Haven't slept well for months. Finally went in and had it looked at. Nice to hear from someone who lifts that's had it done. Thanks.

[@MaNo0sss]

How is it now

[@ricos4700]

@gamerdad5174 It's great now. I had my bicep reattached and AC joint cleaned up. Haven't had any issues.

[@chrismonk8446]

Thanks for taking your time to share your story. I had this surgery 2 days ago. . already want to get back to weight training and forget about this.

[@andybaker2413]

Patience!!!

[@Marcus_918]

Any trouble moving your hand after surgery

[@chrismonk8446]

@@Marcus_918 no, it was fixed in a cast for 2 weeks. Rotation of my wrist after it came off was tight

[@TheSantos173]

@@chrismonk8446 did u get ur 100% full strength back and mobility?

[@brenthogan7179]

i got my surgery 10 days ago. after a week i got back into the gym and just did all body parts that i could without involving my left bicep. at first i said im just going to chill for atleast a month and let this fully heal. after a week i said forget that, i neeeed to get back in there lol. glad everything is going good for you. hope all is well. thanks for the video

[@michaelkarayan6652]

Don’t be depressed, Andy. Your bicep might break but your mind and your will, cannot. You’re cut from a different fabric brother, you just have to remind yourself that. When a negative thought enters that mind of yours I want you to turn around and look around your gym. Look around your home. At your kids. The accomplishments you’ve made. Life happens dude, is this the first time you fell off the horse? Certainly won’t be the last. But you already know you’re gonna get right back on that saddle no matter how big the horse. You don’t need “get wells”. You’re already well. See you on the saddle.

[@andybaker2413]

I'm not depressed man. I'm just kidding about that. Life events at a young age have given me the gift of perspective and I don't sweat the small stuff. Grateful everyday for family and the opportunity to make a business out of what I love. Thanks for your support.

[@anymanusa]

Thanks. This video made me feel a lot better. I'm going in Tuesday.

[@andybaker2413]

You'll be alright bud. Go check out the final video I did on this a few months ago, with my 1 year post op update

[@vikassethi5524]

I am going tomorrow for surgery..

[@NZMuzz]

Obviously a year later but I am going in next Tuesday.... not looking forward to it at all...

[@anymanusa]

@@NZMuzz i was actually working out 4-5 months after surgery. It did really suck for the first few weeks right after though. Good luck.

[@lukeunknown2626]

@@NZMuzz I'm guessing you already had it. Hope all is well

[@paulfontaine4518]

Mate-I've just seen your other video but this one is more apt for me. Exactly the same here! My shoulder looks like when I was 13! Complete muscle wastage. I'm 6 weeks out. I walked 32 miles the other day. Just gonna get legs like tree trunks and give it 6-9 months before I fully start with the arm again. Thanks for the video

[@brantcollins4115]

Hi Paul. I'm considering the surgery. How did it heal?

[@HAL-dm1eh]

I stopped doing deadlifts months ago due to a case of golfer's elbow so bad there was no way I could deadlift with it. It hurt so bad in the beginning I couldn't hang a 5 lb bag of frozen chicken on that arm to carry groceries in. I'll never forget that. Then I reached the end of my LP and went on to the HLM phase for cutting like you recommended and began to use this as an opportunity to cut some fat off while the elbow healed. Well only doing pushing work and NO pulling work brought me out of balance and really exaggerated my TOS (Thoracic Outlet Syndrome) and I've had to just stop everything for a while. I'm using this still as an opportunity to cut as much fat as possible and put my energy into other extra stuff that needs to be done anyway. Your Barbell Prescription book really helped me as a master lifter because it stressed the fact life would get in the way for me and I would be going back and forth between NLP and intermediate. That's exactly what's happening. I'm thankful for the warning! Sometimes life just throws us a curve ball whether we like it or not and we have to make lemonade out of lemons. Your videos and written knowledge have helped me a great deal. Thanks for sharing them and get well soon!

[@andybaker2413]

Thanks for the support, hope you heal up quickly!!!

[@RunIntoTheSkyNonprofit]

Just had mine done on November 1, 2024. The pain has been severe, today is November 7, 2024 and I might go to the emergency room tonight for some possible more pain relief

[@monserrateperez8913]

Hey Andy, thank you for this information, i go for surgery on September 29th 2022, in a couple of days.. i just went through the same exact thing like you. I've been training 14 yrs now. I'm so depress buddy. You gave me hope for when i go through my recovery.. I appreciate your time in making this video.. I'm more then sure the world appreciate you too. Your awesome, stay strong 🙌🏼💪🏼🏋🏼‍♀️

[@TheSantos173]

I got surgery on sep 22 2022. We in this together bro

[@Cheers7807]

Hey buddy, have you had your surgery? how is it going? I am about to have mine next monday, hope everything is fine, cheers

[@TheSantos173]

@@Cheers7807 see if you can get the arthrex button procedure, I see better satisfaction rates from ppl

[@Cheers7807]

@@TheSantos173 thanks, gonna look into that one. It's been 21 days from your surgery. How are ur arm movements? Being able to extend ?

[@TheSantos173]

@@Cheers7807 doc doesn’t want me to extend all the way yet. Currently at 30 degrees before it’s all the way, I feel like I prob could too. Mobility is great, I find myself taking off the brace and doing normals tasks w/o picking heavy stuff of course. A bit tight on pronation but other than that getting better everyday. Just jogged 2 miles to stay upbeat

[@jayhouse20]

Just had this surgery done August 25th 2023. Endobutton was still used but they encouraged me to move my arm. Within reason, no weight but whatever range of motion was possible. They actually discouraged me from using a sling unless I really needed it. I'm 3 weeks post op now and starting physiotherapy tomorrow

[@michaelg7821]

Same as you. I started PT 6 days post surgery myself.

[@_DtK_]

Thanks, I just had a distal bicep tendon rupture on my left arm. Really sucks as im an avid lifter as well. Seems like a long recovery process. Thanks for info on the Button & screw, will mention to my orth surgeon, surgery is in 3 days wtf i still dont know how it even happened.. wasn’t lifting nothing but a peanut lol

[@lukeunknown2626]

@American Sun if it healed by itself then what was you having surgery for 🤔

[@lukeunknown2626]

@Dkahl how is your arm now and are you back in the gym or should I say how long did it take for you to get back into the gym & what technique did you have to fix it?

[@lukeunknown2626]

@American Sun hope you get well, its interesting the two types of people who put videos on KZbin are the people who heal in weeks and or in two months are back in the gym lifting heavyweights or stop posting videos after. If only they check the channel they'll be surprise how many millions of views and subscribers they'll have.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@johnnyrebellion8672]

I stopped wearing the mechanical brace 2 days after the Dr unwrapped my arm which was 2 weeks after surgery. 1 month post surgery today. Fortunately for me the surgery was on my non dominant left arm so it has been easy to turn it off mentally. Strained it once lifting up a baby way too soon. Feels great with a full range of motion. I still have numbness around my thumb. I will wait another 2 weeks before doing any weight training as in even a 1 pound weight. Arm works and I want to keep it that way. I am retired and don't have a need to use my left arm for anything strenuous. My greatest fear is to damage the tendon at the repair site.

[@faststang5897]

Thanks ,I appreciate the time. I’m getting surgery this month for a rapture bicep.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@rumplespliffskin]

It's funny, I've had the surgeon and the hospital physio tell me to get full rom asap. I'm on day 9 since surgery and can move it all the way up and down

[@Smokeshow767]

rumplespliffskin same here. Had my surgery a week and a half ago. Tore my tendon off the bone at the elbow right before my beach vacation. Luckily my surgeon works in sports medicine. Only had to wear sling for 2 days. Went to the beach 3 days after surgery with no sling or anything. Just bandaged up. Surgeon told my to lightly move it up and down. I can almost totally straighten my arm now. Still sore but I can’t imagine my arm being in a sling for over a month. He said he don’t believe in being in a sling for 4-6 weeks.

[@rumplespliffskin]

@@Smokeshow767 I was told by the doctor who referred me and a surgery nurse that I'd be in some sort of a cast for a month. I thought I was going to spend 6 months trying to straighten it again. Right as I was being knocked out, the surgeon (specialising in sports injuries) said he wants me gently working at it as soon as I wake up. The physio said the same thing the next morning. I'm 5 weeks post op with an 8mm hole drilled in my forearm and in my experience, walking around before you can straighten and let it hang it is the only reason for a sling after a day or two. Just don't pick anything up or do anything stupid like curl with something in your hand.

[@edwardsg1]

I had my surgery about 3 weeks ago using the same procedure. I was out of my cast in 4 days and started occupational therapy on day 4 as well. I’m still in a sling when I sleep and part of the day. My surgeon told me to wear it to keep me honest so I won’t use my arm accidentally. My OT stated that the endo button is extremely secure and that there is no longer the need to keep your arm immobilized for a long period of time like with the previous bicep repair procedure.

[@rumplespliffskin]

@@edwardsg1 I forgot about that. I'm nearly 16 weeks now and it's amazing how much of it is a fading memory already. But yeah, I actually kept it in a sling when sleeping for a week or more. It took ages to find a comfortable sleeping position as while the endone would knock me out, I'd wake up a few hours later with a really sore neck or shoulder from sleeping on my back with my arm raised on a pillow. I only used the sling to walk for the first few days although I used it for the park run 10 days post surgery. Once it would hang limp while walking, I just walked carefully. It had a massive bandage so everyone gave me a wide berth.

[@michalkopij7356]

Don’t throw a frisbee or disc with the other hand. Especially don’t try to hard. You’ll be surprised how much of the whole body you use for mundane stuff.

[@chrisfesnak5732]

Thanks for the info I just had the surgery and I was curious on what to expect in the upcoming weeks

[@abdeldjalilbelhani6244]

Good luck with the rehab andy , hope you will get back soon

[@franksmith1687]

I had the surgery 6 weeks ago. I've been in a cast since, get it removed tomorrow. Thanks for the info on the rehab. Semper Fi.

[@sirlucius3016]

I had my surgery 3 weeks ago. Man, my lower arm is somewhat numb, almost to the point that Is feels like a constant pressure on my nerve in certain situations. You feeling anything similar?

[@kevs2good133]

@@sirlucius3016 sometimes the surgeon might pinch a nerve when doing the surgery. I’ve read in some cases they might need to do surgery again to fix it lol

[@sirlucius3016]

@@kevs2good133 its been about a year now. Im good

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@judo-drummerboy-tapout]

Hopefully this will ease everybody's mind as you can see from my picture I'm in a wheelchair I missing both my legs I tore my rotator cuff a SLAP tear on the labrum and I tore my bicep anteriorly off the bone. I want the Mayo Clinic have the best guy in the country do the surgery depend on my arms for everything not having legs. One thing I'll be honest about my rotator cuff didn't really hurt after surgery my bicep tendon had me damn near in tears after surgery. It it's a pretty tender surgery. The good thing is after three or four days I was feeling okay pretty much back to pre-surgery tight pain right now I'm on day number 6 period if a guy with no legs wheelchair-bound can you get through the surgery you can also no problem. One thing I would recommend as if the doctor says a lettuce for the pain catheter or let us dead in your shoulder before you go home jumper pain. Let them. It is a huge help so is a ice machine

[@LastChanceKnives]

Just yesterday I was looking to see if there were any updates on the surgery. Glad to here that the repair went well! A few years ago I dislocated my shoulder and had the same feelings about not being able to train. When I was able to start back it was with just the bar and even that was painful. It took about 8 months to recover and get back to where I was. The doctors will be overly cautious and want to wait way to long. It will take some common sense and listening to your body during recovery, if you do you will know how hard to push. Make sure you get full range of motion back before using heavy weights that will want to stretch it out.

[@andybaker2413]

Thanks man. Yeah, I plan on taking my time when I get back under the bar. Unfortunately I don't think I'll have much choice but to progress slowly. I plan on documenting each workout on KZbin for my own education and as a resource for others to follow in the future. Like I said...a new challenge :-)

[@addicted-to-bass74]

I go in July 8th, 2022 for my surgery. Thanks for sharing your story and what to expect.

[@TheSantos173]

Did you get button procedure?

[@addicted-to-bass74]

@@TheSantos173 yes I did.

[@TheSantos173]

@@addicted-to-bass74 how was your physical therapy regimen looking like?

[@addicted-to-bass74]

@@TheSantos173 it started out slow. No weights for the first two weeks. Slowly started adding weights and resistance bands. Been going 3 times a week. Physical therapist said it would take about 2-3 months.

[@TheSantos173]

@@addicted-to-bass74 are some those exercises able to be done at home maybe with a brother? First week I was given at home ex to do, I go today for second week. I don’t have health insurance

[@Voltron4ev4]

Almost 1 month post op, but 3 months post injury (210 kg rack pull...would have been PB). Had same type of surgery, but got a haematoma and infection once the staples came out. About 30 degrees shy of fully extending my arm right now. It's very tight. My left arm has also atrophied considerably. Really missing the gym. Considering doing some light resistance band work - working around the bicep. Maybe some flys and bent over rows, if I get the go ahead. You're still a beast Andy - thanks for vid.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@Voltron4ev4]

@@brantcollins4115 I went to a training hospital - not sure they did a great job tbh. My bicep is noticeably bunched. Strength wise, maybe a very slight decrease. I've heard others say their arm returned to normal, so maybe worth asking around some more first. I also occasionally strain my forearm muscle (brachi) and need to do physio to reactivate the bicep. Not a huge deal, but something I will have to deal with. Again, this might not be an issue for you, should you decide to go ahead with op. Maybe consult with a physio first, if you haven't already. Sorry - not much help. Best of luck with it!

[@pedrohizzle2835]

You should be in splint 2 weeks and then adjustable brace for 4 weeks according to my surgeon. I just had surgery yesterday. I thought I could switch to Tylenol this morning. Had only had Tylenol today. Now it’s 6pm and my arm is hurting more than it has since I’ve been home so I just took another Percocet.

[@JakeLaLonde]

Thanks so much for the added info! Just got my endo button put in today!

[@lukeunknown2626]

How did you guys sleep without stretching out your arm in the middle of sleep or as you wake up? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😴😴

[@martinlaulunen7189]

....they recommended sleep with the sling on.,✨😉

[@jordanlakes4747]

I’ll be two weeks post surgery tomorrow. Had the button procedure as well. Great info. Thank you.

[@stephenstrutt6615]

Looks like I’m going to have to get the surgery next week. How are you recovering? I’m an event photographer - do you think lifting a 5-6lb camera would be possible at the three week post-op mark?

[@jordanlakes4747]

@@stephenstrutt6615 at week 6 I started 1-3 lbs. Yesterday was my week 8 mark and I moved up to 5 lbs. Starting at week six I probably started to overdo it with just general use stuff and it would always tell me. I’d say the camera is definitely going to be too much for at minimum the first six weeks. At week eight I feel much better than I expected. Just be patient if you can.

[@stephenstrutt6615]

@@jordanlakes4747 thank you so much. So hard to know what to expect.

[@TheSantos173]

Hey man how’s the bicep is it strong as before? It’s been like 4 months for u right? I’m 2.5 weeks post op

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@aaronoconnor8862]

Watching all your vids Andy. Coming up on 2wks post op. Training legs - no safety bar squats yet but vertical leg press in my garage too. Left side incline chest db very light, static holds, contracting and squeezing both pecs - left side curls pressdown cable rows Scapular stuff - no weight on right side -- Brace 90 - 60 degrees still Doing slight resistance against other arm neutral grip bicep flex (very light pressure keep contractions short and right arm at 90 degrees but harder press at 90d for triceps Ugh-- it’s tough but I want this thing to heal - arm looks like a 15y old girl already smdh.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@aaronoconnor8862]

@@brantcollins4115 fully healed back training like a savage - and aesthetically it’s back to looking sexy af. It gets sore if I push too too hard - I do less volume now and listen to it - but overall everything is Rearview now - back to training full tilt

[@kevinlee4449]

I am appreciating all the extra content you've been putting out. The past few blog posts have been great, particularly the last three. Are you planning on writing any more programs? I realize you just released a classic HLM I haven't picked up yet, but your past few blog posts have got me hoping for a 4 day powerbuilding program using %'s. Basically a hybrid of your KSC Method for powerbuilding/powerlifting. I love those two and have been rotating between them since January and despite dropping 20 lbs I have been setting PR's about every 5 or 6 weeks. I think I'd buy your programs just to read the FAQ section in the back. Anyways keep up the good work and all the best in your recovery.

[@TheSantos173]

Hey man long did it took u to get 100% strength back?

[@stevied3911]

Tore distal tendon yesterday going to doc tomorrow armed with good info Thanks bro

[@andybaker2413]

Good luck! Sucks for the next few months but you'll come out the other side.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@kennymcgee5]

I'm 12 Post op and I'm 4 months out I start weight lifting today

[@hurozancerrahoglu8736]

Thanks a lot these videos help me a lot to understand what to expect. tomorrow i am taking the same surgery. I also only didnt lift during bootcamp and also have big arms. Anyway, thanks a lot, your video logs were best so far i watched. Best,

[@brantcollins4115]

I'm going for the surgery soon. How long did it take your arm to get back to normal?

[@hurozancerrahoglu8736]

@@brantcollins4115 hi man. God be with you. 3 months no training. From 3rd month to 9th month you gonna have to take it very slowly. Gradually raise the tension of training. During 12th month almost all will be like before. After month 12 you will even start develop. First 14 days will be hell. After 14th day will start physio therapy until 3rd month. First 24 hours will be easiest due to pain killers. Stay in the hospital for 2 3 days. Good luck.

[@pegener]

Your 'tiny shrivelled up arm' is still bigger than mine, keep your chin up.

[@DarrellLangford]

Tore mine Memorial Day weekend, >50% partial tear. So my bicep did not retract. Doc originally wanted me to wait 6 weeks to see if it healed, after about 2-3 weeks I pushed for surgery (endobutton), had it in less than 4 weeks total even during all this Covid. My surgeon had already told me all he did during the non elective surgeries were distal bicep repairs, because those are essential. Did 1 week in the weird brace/cast they made me, and I begged out of it at 1 week post op and got the hinged brace. They set it to 35-125degrees motion when I got it, I decreased it cause that didn't seem right and I wasn't ready for that yet. Just had my 2 week post op follow up, doc basically told me motion is fine, just don't pick up anything, and wear the brace when I need to be reminded not to do anything dumb. Follow up 4 more weeks away, and he doesn't foresee the need for me to have physical Therapy. Said I can just do it on my own at home. I have almost full extension already, but flexion is an issue, and supination is a big fat no with some pain. Still a giant knot in my arm that I am to massage out. One incision, a big one, right below my elbow on my forearm. They used surgical glue, so no staples or stitches for me. Hope it works out.

[@TheSantos173]

How’s the bicep did you end up doing the therapy on your own?

[@DarrellLangford]

@@TheSantos173 didn't really need any therapy for it. Once it was repaired and I hit the 3 month mark, doc cleared me for anything that I could physically do. Feels fine, as opposed to my ACL repair that happened a few months after this surgery (that one you really need to do the therapy, and then some, I am still not 100% after almost 2 years on). I can lift and do everything with my bicep, although I feel a bit of a twinge at surgery site when throwing a baseball hard, but maybe that's just old age, and lack of a lot of throwing until recently.

[@sahrens1]

Similar issue. Recovering well. There is some deformity in the lower bicep. Any exercises I can do to strengthen that portion of the bicep and eliminate the deformity.

[@feratgroshar4193]

Great video, thanks

[@moba.k5913]

I had this kind of trauma last week, tomorrow I am getting this fixed in OR, thanks for your info bro....

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@taskmaxter]

@@brantcollins4115 Thought I'd ask to see what you decided? Operation or non-Operation and how it went and how are things going?

[@brantcollins4115]

@@taskmaxter I went in for the op on 2 May 2023. 3 weeks after the injury. Probably waited too long. Also trained, including curls with the severed distal tendon. I was trying to convince myself that it would be fine. Soon realised that it wasn't going to be fine. Started to feel pain in the tendons on the other end.

[@brantcollins4115]

@@taskmaxter the arm before the op started to look worse and worse. The bicep bunched up towards the shoulder. The surgeon reattached it using the endo button. No cast, just a sling for 3 weeks. Didn't lift anything heavier than a coffee cup for 3 months. Whole arm atrophied. Only started rehab with weights of 5 kg on 1 September. Added 2 kg of weight per month to bicep curls. Jumped to 16 kg this month. Arm looks and functions WAY BETTER than before the op. It really was deformed in comparison to the other. There is still still a bigger gap between the bicep and elbow and the bicep is still smaller and weaker but the difference decreased every month. I don't think that it'll ever be the same as before, but it has a great peak now due to the slight retraction 🤣 gotta try look at the bright side. If you can, DEFINITELY go for the op. Sooner the better.

[@taskmaxter]

@@brantcollins4115 great to hear things are going so well! My surgery is scheduled this coming week - will be 2.5 weeks post injury trying to lift a fricken sofa in garage. Dumb move - LOL.

[@joelreader6151]

i was told no sling after 11 days, and to start working on active elbow extension

[@andybaker2413]

Do what your surgeon says, man. I'm not a doctor....I'm sharing my own experience here....not to be confused with actual medical advice. There wasn't a lot of info about this online when I tore mine nearly two years ago so that's why I chose to make the videos.

[@joelreader6151]

@@andybaker2413 thanks for the answer! appreciate it. heres a stupid question. if i put my arm in a tight sling, do you think its dangerous to ice skate. if i fall there will be no danger of me extending my arm, so i dont see the danger.. what are your thoughts

[@andybaker2413]

@@joelreader6151 I wouldn't. But that's just me. Falling to that side and landing elbow first on the ice seems like an unnecessary risk. But I live in Texas so we don't skate much here. :-)

[@terra2468]

thank you for your time, your video is really helpful. i m 48yrs and i had this surgery 1 week ago. my questions for you are: when was the first time you got your elbow straight (180 degrees)after the surgery ? how are your supination and pronation movements after the surgery? one day after the surgery i had a meeting with one of the hospital Physiotherapists and he ask me to start practice some specific forearm movements right away when i get home and some weekly goals, ex: after the first month i need to be able to extend all my forearm/elbow.180 degrees... but in your case , the advice was 6 weeks without any movement? thank you again 👍

[@MACROTRADERSLLC]

Just got my surgery last Tuesday with the same procedure I injured it rack pulling 725

[@andybaker2413]

Sorry to hear that man. It sucks but it's recoverable.. I pulled 500 around 4 months post op. It's not over yet!

[@MACROTRADERSLLC]

Ok nice that gives me hope

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@MACROTRADERSLLC]

@bryant Collins everything is good now I’m back to 100 percent

[@brantcollins4115]

@@MACROTRADERSLLC thanks for the response Jimmy. That's very encouraging. Well done 💪

[@sauceboss9313]

My surgeon had me in a cast for 2 weeks. Then a mechanical brace. Every week I would increase ROM by 10 degrees. I'm 5 weeks out and at 30 degrees extension. Should be fully extended in the next 3 weeks. I'm doing my own PT with isometric, then zero weight flexion, then 2.5# increments until February 1st. I should be curling 20# by 2/1/25. I'm not sure if I'm going back to full strength training yet. This injury sucks. Might focus on body weight exercises and ROM exercises. I'm getting to old to be lifting heavy and sustaining injuries like this.

[@KoryoJK]

It’s concerning to see the widespread spectrum of methodologies for post surgery recovery. My doc had me on splint for only one week and then a brace for 5 more weeks, increasing the angle every week. However, I was on PT start of week 2, with isometric strength exercises as well. I’m at week 4 and feel great. I can supinate all the way and stretch out my arm all the way as well. Doing a lot of grip exercises and started isometric bicep exercise on week 3. I’m anticipating cutting that 4/6 month recovery in half based on my progression.

[@michaelg7821]

I feel you. I think not all doctors for this procedure are the same. My doc is great. Started pt 6 days post surgery and range of motion. No more than 30 degrees

[@dogandclips2612]

Thanks for thr info

[@jasonm7879]

I was un-lucky enough to blow both arms at once! Problem is that I waited for over a month before going to the doctor and now have to wait for a surgeon to repair both! Thanks for the video and information!

[@andybaker2413]

How did you do that?

[@jasonm7879]

I live on the East coast of Canada, and during one of our last snowstorms our car was stuck in a small rut on some ice. While my wife was giving the car gas, I was in behind try to push it past the rut as the car was spinning. The car is low to the ground and as I was pushing but at the same time lifting, hoping to get it over the hump. Suddendly I felt pops in both arms! I have been lifting heavy weight most of my life and the doctor thinks it may be as much the accumulation over the years as the final act when they snapped? The strange thing was that I really was not exerting an extreme amount of force at the time! However I am 49 now..lol

[@Heavyork]

Hi Andy, why can you only do "light movements" on the leg press and curl? Does training heavy interfere with recovery of the tendon? I followed Brian Alsruhe's recovery on his rotator-cuff tear. He trained with his sling on, doing heavy neck strapped deadlifts and SSB squats. The day he was cleared to lift he deadlifted 700-something lbs off the floor. The doctor argued he could not lift more than 2lbs until he was cleared, after that he could do whatever which just sounds silly. I know it's a different injury but I think it's similar in recovery. Best of luck, looking forward to the rehab series.

[@TheAlmighty]

Do you have your physical therapy protocol documented? I have ran into insurance issues out of the splint and have been having trouble figuring out what to do at home

[@larsinteriors9348]

Thanks andy had my surgery on October 12th, oct 27th now and i have full rom(straightening the arm) , however near rist area i cant supinate my hand yet without tightness etc. Thanks for video

[@michaelg7821]

This video is odd. My doc is pretty big into this technique used for this injury and I was told to start PT 6 days after surgery. What kind of doctor says pt isn’t necessary? More so why was this guy told no movement at all for 5 weeks. You need to slowly get that tendon stretching along with pt for scarring. I’m so fortunate to have a good doctor and not what this guy had

[@shahbazomer7b182]

Hi Thanks alot for your details very informative. I want your surgeon details. Doctors details. Recently I broke my bicep tendon. Need surgery.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@mattcoughlin4604]

Did you still have pain when letting arm hang at 3 weeks ? Mine is pretty painful

[@geraldcollins7103]

Hey brother great video. How long does this repair last for?

[@andybaker2413]

It's a permanent fix, to the degree that anything is actually "permanent" But it'l last a lifetime and allow you to resume all activities.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Why am I still in pain 3 weeks post op

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@pedrohizzle2835]

@@brantcollins4115 arm is good now. I’m at 5 mo. I’d recommend surgery. Get it fixed right.

[@zhongzheng109]

Hi andy I popped my left elbow tendon two days ago I’m also 36 years old I am exactly like what you were saying in the video watching your story two years later the problem is that I live in Shanghai and I have yet been able to find a good surgeon in the area contemplating going to the US to get it fixed but the ongoing pandemic is not making it easier could you please recommend me to your physical therapist New York I will try to get it fixed in China over the next couple of weeks hopefully I’ve been searching all over China for a good orthopedic surgeon with experience in this operation

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@robertchalfant7233]

Well I had the surgery yesterday. Had the double endo button, on the top and bottom. My question is did you have wrist soreness? I have the soreness at the bicep and the repair spot,but it feels like my wrist was spun around. Mr doctor wants me to move my fingers and waive the hand ,but stay in the sling. I just curious.thanks for the videos on this subject.

[@andybaker2413]

Yeah man. After the surgery, everything is sore and hurts! You've had a lot of trauma and shit is inflamed. It gets better with time. Follow the Docs advice for first 6 weeks. Move the wrist and shoulder around as much as possible, but just be careful with the bicep/elbow itself.

[@mlinger18]

How long after surgery do I have to take off from lifting

[@Marcus_918]

I’m currently one week out of surgery postop and I’m wondering if anyone has had trouble opening their hand, my fingers are very stiff and I cannot move them an example would be as if I was counting using my fingers 12345 and I cannot open them without using my other hand. Has anyone else experienced this? I had a complete rupture of my distal bicep tendon they used a button technique to repair

[@andybaker2413]

I had a lot of issues with grip strength after surgery and general stiffness but I'm pretty sure I was moving my hand and fingers pretty well 1 week afterwards. This might be a good time to make sure you get in and see a physical therapist. In general I'm not a huge fan of PT, but in the immediate post op window it's probably a good idea, espeically with an issue like this.

[@Marcus_918]

Andy Baker Thank you for replying I really appreciate it

[@beast8995]

@@Marcus_918 just had my repair 7 days ago seen your comment and I’m experiencing the same as you have ,i can’t open close or even pick up my fingers ,just wanted to know are you still having these problems and if not how long ?

[@Marcus_918]

@@beast8995 hey I’m sorry to hear about that. I am not currently having these problems anymore it took 4 months of physical therapy to regain 100% movement back in my hand. I thought it would never come back and it was scariest thing ever but have patience, go to therapy and do what they say and it will come back to you. The nerves need to grow back and repair themselves. Takes time but it will work. I wish you best of luck anymore questions don’t hesitate to ask, I was once in your situation it gets better.

[@beast8995]

@@Marcus_918 Thank you so much for getting back to me Bro I thought I was alone in experienceing this I was really bad freaking out that I would never move my fingers again and regretting the surgery .I’m having my bandage /Cast off next Thursday can’t wait to have it off and start to try to move my fingers, it’s great to hear your up to 100 percent strength now and I know it’s going to be a long journey but I will get there thanks again for getting back to me really appreciate it.

[@stevemiller4494]

Thanks for your video man at least I know I'm going through the same thing that you're going through or had went through I should say... I just had distal bicep surgery....what's interesting is my doctor told me not to use the sling after two weeks but I was out of the sling for one day and my arm was hurting so bad I just said screw it I'm keeping it in there for another four weeks but after hearing what you had to say I'm wondering why he told me to go ahead and not use the sling.... So I'm going to keep it in a sling for 4 more weeks but thanks for your video man at least I know that other guys have went through this I am a former bodybuilder when I was younger but I ended up getting this injury just a lifetime of heavy lifting and pushing and pulling and my most recent job is brutal and being at 51 it eventually caught up with me so thanks

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@ajgames42]

How does it feel now?

[@andybaker2413]

100% fine. The only last consequence was that I can't really do supinated grip chin ups anymore. I CAN, but supinating that far over is just extremely uncomfortable. So I just use neutral grip or pronated grip - no big deal. Everything else fine.

[@johnwarden4645]

Thanks bro 28/3/24 ..

[@OffroadMilitia]

I just had this done just over a month ago and my main issue right now is I can't make a good closed fist. I don't know if it's just because of being in a cast for so long or if I have some other issue due to the surgery

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@MegaSemin]

Hey Andy what‘s your opinion on WS4SB from Joe D. and only doing Legs 1x/Week for athletes ?

[@andybaker2413]

For the most part I like Joe D and I've stolen many ideas from him over the years. I don't agree with his approach to training young novice athletes. Novices have a window of time where strength can be increased very quickly and I think it is a mistake to not take advantage of that. Taking a young kids squat from 135 to 315 will get him faster than speed work, plyos, etc so I say drop all that shit and focus on strength. As the athlete progresses in strength you might scale back frequency a bit and then i think a lot of his ideas make more sense. Working with athletes is challenging because you have to navigate your workouts around their practice and competition schedule and you may only get 1x/week under the bar with them. If you aren't a competitive athlete doing sprints and all that stuff on other days of the week, then I'd have most people doing lower body 2x/week

[@MegaSemin]

Andy Baker that‘s what I thought:) thank you very much for the answer! I myself am in s semi pro Basketball situation. Do you think Squatting/Deadlifting 1x/Week is enough while playing basketball 3-4x/Week and „focusing“ more on upper body strength ?

[@andybaker2413]

It wquld depend on your level of strength. You don't need to squat 500 to play basketball, but I'd want to get to say 315 or so just to adequately protect myself from injury. Getting even higher than that can maximize whatever potential you have for speed and explosiveness. If you are already there, then fine, 1x/week is plenty for maintenance. If you are squatting 185, then yeah, you got some work to do and I'd suggest 2-3x/week lower body training

[@yuribezmenovwasright5625]

When wete you able to supinate pronate

[@tigrechatninja]

Hmmmmmm im thinking about going back kickboxing but I have the operation scheduled tomorrow and I feel like one tendon is going to become stronger and going training again its hard to decide

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@tigrechatninja]

@@brantcollins4115 I did it and im back at kickboxing since last month and I do small weights to get it back in shape since day 100 post op. So far so good but I was literally lifting 40lbs whit my fucked up arm around 20 day after I tear the tendon. I did the surgery cuz im Canadian otherwise fuck paying 10k for that imo. Im 25 and lowkey pissed af that I missed 3 month of training and my arm is still weak but its just getting started on the strength rehab. It should be stronger im focused on the long term cuz im young.

[@brantcollins4115]

@@tigrechatninja Thanks for the response bro! Well done on the successful recovery. I literally just got back from the surgeon. I'm going to do it. There's no way that the bicep will stay the same after the total rupture. I've seen some content on KZbin that it can. Maybe those guys are genetic freaks. I'm so scared. Even with this tendon dangling around in my arm and a bit of bruising, I'm able to do 100 kg bench and 18kg curls. It's freaking me out not being able to train for 3 months because it's the only way I stay de-stress from work and life. Hope the arm doesn't wither to an overcooked noodle too quickly 🙏 how did your arm hold out during the inactivity? Did it atrophy quickly?

[@tigrechatninja]

@@brantcollins4115 mine looked skinny af but its getting back to normal fast. Muscle memory is real like its just about being patient

[@brantcollins4115]

@@tigrechatninja thanks for replying. Good to hear. Are you able to bench lightly under a Smith machine yet?

[@rumplespliffskin]

The famous powerlifters and such that are returning so quick would've been drinking vials of HGH.

[@lukeunknown2626]

The thing with Brain Shaw is A) he's got a team of pros in the field around him, B) Brain Shaw after surgery was what a normal bodybuilders would be and his muscle memory would help him jump back to enter the world's strongest etc.

[@2Bdiscovered]

YOU LOOK GREAT AFTER WKS POST OP LOL.

[@DavideV101]

Just today.

[@brianlanceabramson8652]

So an average of ten weeks

[@TheGnthreman]

Nerve damage for me.

[@boxlikeapro]

Great info here. Thanks for sharing. I'm a professional boxing trainer and the same had happened to me... also a former Marine, lol let me add. Just had the repair done yesterday. He's suppose to be top notch.. I hope my guy used the endo pin though. I wasn't aware of that hardware until now. Nonetheless, I hope your fairing ok through covid times. Stay strong and Godspeed to you brother. Please feel free to message me back

[@andrewsoupene1028]

Same here 12 weeks since op fore arm still numb, little pain and swelling arm out of sling in phys therapy 80 - 90 percent mobility

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@lukeunknown2626]

Who knows if Eddie Hall really didn't have surgery 🤔 and is still working out.

[@brantcollins4115]

How did the arm end up? I'm trying to decide if surgery is the best route

[@swieseldorf]

Theres no reason to do speed deadlifts. Stop doing crazy stuff to ur body.. just workout to look good and be strong.. eat to be healthy!!!

[@gsp-greenstripepilot9508]

I got the endo button last week

[@Uncleryan117]

Andy pho

[@mattdelvecchio1537]

please get an iphone or something, it’s like you’re transmitting from a 1990s logitech webcam. anyway, hope your recovery goes well!

[@andybaker2413]

I'm sorry you were offended by the quality of my video. I'm a strength coach, not a KZbin star. I'm good with bars and plates and other very simple tools. Try Bradley Martyn's channel. He probably spends more on his cameras than I do and has some dope merch!

[@paraworth]

Get rid of the kids