Biden admin. to forgive $39 billion in student loans

The Biden administration announced Friday that it will forgive the student loans of more than 800,000 borrowers, wiping out $39 billion in debt. #shorts #biden #whitehouse #studentloans #studentloandebt #studentloanforgiveness

[@neverknowsbest1717]

If i cant get student debt forgiven, i will absolutely take having my Mom's student debt forgiven. I still see it as a win.

[@formy6]

She’s still going to be paying for it

[@jorionrange8336]

OMG, people caring about other people's well being?!

[@ItsDaKoolaidDude]

*_if_* she counts in the 800k selected. That shits just a lottery ticket

[@dreamingmage7524]

@@nobot6177bro thinks we care 💀

[@jamesirwin7677]

​@nobot6177 Donald Trump got 6 lots of debt forgiveness. It's called bankruptcy. There's no bankruptcy for this debt. Republicans stopped those reforms.

[@hello93617]

Aaaaaaaaaand we still arnt talking about making colleges lower their prices.

[@lextheap1638]

Because that would mean cutting subsidies

[@joseph3225]

Most leftist politicians don’t like to get to the root of the every problem America has they rather just waist tax dollars on short term solutions and ban everything.

[@okairo]

Why would they lower their prices? They're making bank.

[@haynesdevon0]

Why would they. Then they can't buy votes by promising to pay your debts.

[@graysonllewellyn8734]

@@okairo Because education shouldn't be god damned racket.

[@miller58_49]

I almost couldn’t go to school because I didn’t have a co-signer. I went to a state school I graduated with a Bachelors Degree in Psych and I make 50k but have to pay 850 a month for my student loan payments. I am 80k in debt and at this point I wish I didn’t go. Some days I go hungry because I’m living paycheck to paycheck

[@synsvids]

I hope things get better for you dude, wishing you better days (also I'm going to definitely do some research when signing up for college, I didn't know cosigning was a thing)

[@edm8037]

Did they forgive your loan already?

[@Dietrich_Kaufmann]

Minorities get discounts and opportunities, your mistake was identifying as white when you should of said Hispanic

[@kfstreich4787]

And yet no one attacks the predatory system that allows this

[@Dietrich_Kaufmann]

@@kfstreich4787 that’s a life sentence and then some for a person, however multiple people protesting 🤔 ah non violent protests don’t do anything, same with Unions too, because true progress requires escalation leading to death and/or incarceration (are you willing to do this for the greater good at the sacrifice of yourself? 🤨 no? Then nobody will, I know I’m not going to 😁 nothing worse than someone complaining and not doing anything about it 🤧 you expect someone else to do this for you?)

[@troodon1096]

Crazy idea: instead of debating whether or not we should be forgiving student loan debt, why don't we debate making colleges lower tuition so people don't have to take out loans to attend college in the first place. Just a thought.

[@aCycloneSteve]

Lots of ideas, most of them suck. How about NO government guaranteed student loans. All loans are dischargeable in bankruptcy? It used to be that 9% of men & 8% of women had degrees. That sounds about right to me. Most people who work have NO need for a degree in political science or English.

[@landerson7348]

What they really need to do is take a hard look at how much college costs and make them justify how inflated it is compared to what it used to be.

[@JohnLeeCaskey]

The thing is, you can't. It's a private business. They can charge whatever they want. They'll always set tuition to maximize their profit based on what people can pay. The more subsidies the government provides the more they charge so the problem never gets fixed. The only solution is people being unwilling to pay and taking another route in life. The real problem is teaching everyone that the only option is to go to college.

[@valfreyaaurora4922]

Only way for that to happen is education is completely funded by government and then they negotiate the price… otherwise no solution to that

[@bearish7081]

College costs so much because of government guaranteed student loans.

[@PhoenixFires]

​@@JohnLeeCaskeyAnd when society collapses because 30% of the population that would have been in upper class and middle class careers like teaching, finance, healthcare, management, STEM, etc. are now flooding the lower class blue collar jobs? This same stupid argument has been made of agrarians for over 100 years and it becomes more absurd every year. You can't make the majority of the population farmers and expect the quality of life to maintain itself. Same as how you can't make the majority of the population blue collar workers and expect the quality of life to maintain itself.

[@Stesest]

@@JohnLeeCaskey It's a private business... That the government inflated by allowing any 18 y/o with a pulse get 5-6 digits in debt to attend. Thus raising the price. Imagine how much nicer the world would be if the govt didn't turn everything they touch to shit. but yaaa big govt, right?

[@Da_Publick]

It's certainly better than the nothing the Supreme Court wanted.

[@BearkyUSA]

You know people still have to pay for it now right? Just through taxes. So now people who never signed on for a loan, have to pay for one

[@unknownz1238]

@@BearkyUSA Bro we already pay taxes. I’d rather my taxes go to something useful for other people. Atleast with public funded things there’s no middle man stealing our taxes

[@thebarbarians8082]

@@unknownz1238we already have a shitty ass economy, I don’t need money we could be using to fix the economy being spent towards people who got a communications major

[@jasonstclair6293]

Most times if you can't pay your bills whatever you're not paying on gets repossessed. Just because you can't pay your own freaking bills you signed up for doesn't mean I should.

[@unknownz1238]

@@thebarbarians8082 Bro. Have you taken economics. By relieving debt it stimulates the economy and drives capitalism because there’s more consumer spending due to higher disposable incomes. This is an economic policy too

[@cherubin7th]

Ban student loans. Then college would get cheap quickly.

[@yin4296]

Fr, people are acting like college became so expensive independently of the introduction of federal student loans… as you can imagine once nearly unlimited federal student loans were implemented, colleges started charging 87k/year

[@riptyurass302]

Yea, but it will also stop millions of student from getting a quality education because they cannot afford it.

[@yin4296]

@@riptyurass302 it would also force colleges to lower tuition and board prices significantly, causing more students to be able to access college, just maybe not right at the age of 18. you would then effectively be able to work a part time job and afford college once again

[@SoulPenalty]

For those exact reasons, they will never ban student loans. I doubt the federal government can outright ban private loan either since the argument will be centered around limiting access to higher education .

[@teamofone1219]

Then we will have to pay more in taxes do you want that?

[@gamesonly7490]

While it would’ve been nice to have a wider impact, seeing my dad no longer have to worry about his student loans anymore was genuinely such a nice thing.

[@JenniferWilliams-zi7rj]

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[@JenniferWilliams-zi7rj]

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[@JenniferWilliams-zi7rj]

I followed all their instructions and they were able to clear my student loan debts and my other debts without any upfront payments.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@JenniferWilliams-zi7rj if someone ask for upfront payment for things like this its probably a scam

[@latonyalee7821]

I felt like I lost a 100 pounds when I got the letter saying my loans had been forgiven after paying on them for 25+ years and barely seeing a drop in the amount owed. I'll just let the haters hate, while I rebuild by life and finally be able to afford a mortgage.

[@thatwelshman2713]

When the government finds a loophole its fine When a citizen does a three letter agency kicks down their door

[@eliontheinternet3298]

It’s not even a loophole, they’re just actually forgiving the loans that they promised to several decades earlier. Would you rather them screw people out of something promised three decades ago??

[@GSCBrowning]

Unless the citizen is wealthy lmao

[@plsdontshoot3614]

@@GSCBrowningyeah. The police are tools of the rich, always remember that rich folk are only arrested when they piss off richer folk

[@jamesirwin7677]

The fact that they make the laws means nothing to you?

[@RyanNewman-kc8ob]

@@eliontheinternet3298 I mean if Biden would abolish ATF and IRS I wouldn't care. either that or simplify the Tax codes to where you get your notification of how much you owe, and you pay it. simple . still abolish atf tho

[@jimmysmyth7510]

This is a legislation for colleges to benefit colleges not middle class lower class students. The real solution is more affordable college. Bust the monopoly that is Pearson

[@ClockworkGearhead]

Only way that happens is if the government stops securing their money for bad decisions. But liberals won't accept that. Tribalism and whatnot.

[@genericperson1020]

There are a lot of monopolies that need busting, college ain’t even in the top 5

[@ClockworkGearhead]

@@genericperson1020 Okay, name all five. Then explain to me why that excuses my taxpayer dollars shoring up THIS monopoly.

[@jordanwardle11]

free college for boomers screwed things up when they ended it

[@lucasgolembiewski4809]

@@jordanwardle11just say Reagan he force college to raise tuition by cutting their funding if they didn’t

[@kiernanoh]

It affected my mom, she got almost 200,000 student loans forgiven.

[@dominicdoherty7208]

That’s life-changingly incredible, congratulations to her!

[@PhoKingWay]

She had $200k of debt after paying for 25 years?! wow!

[@kiernanoh]

@@PhoKingWay she was in deferrement but worked for the government

[@Katie-mv1hs]

@PhoKingWay that's how those loans work. If you're on an income based payment plan, you aren't even touching the principle with your payments, so the interest compounds monthly. Mine doubled while I was paying the largest amounts. That's how those loans were designed to work. They're a money generating scam designed to trap children in long term loans with shit conditions, packaged as "good debt".

[@reecethomas1863]

Everyone else gets to pay for her bad life choices. Thanks….

[@elenachristian9860]

As a mortgage officer, I want to point out--that's 800,000 people in their 30s and 40s who can now afford to buy a house. A car. Go back to school. Save for retirement. This is good for EVERYBODY.

[@MMDelta9]

How? Assuming the average cost of a US home (little more than 500k these days), you're going to need a 150k down payment to buy a house. If you've got a job that's allowing you to pull together 150k for a house, *how are you struggling to make student loan payments?* And won't Thanos snapping 39 billion from the economy only drive interest rates *up?* So won't that increase mortgage rates, meaning people who managed to buy a home *before* the student loan forgiveness ponzi scheme went into effect end up having to foreclose?

[@michellerussell49]

No it's not 😂

[@davidmays8974]

​@@michellerussell49. Explain.

[@uni4rm]

Loans and debt don't magically disappear.

[@josejaimes-ramos1546]

​@uni4rm Honestly, I could see a program where A student debt is forgiven after a 150% of the principal has been paid. There is literally no benefit to society to keeping a class of college educated debt slaves. The fucking lenders still make money.

[@OctagonalSquare]

It should be noted that the Supreme Court didn’t say that forgiving student loans is illegal/unconstitutional. They said that the way Biden did it (with an executive order) was. Because that’s not what an executive order is supposed to be for.

[@rafmatt1607]

Woah woah, let's not let the facts distort this click bait video

[@shevthegreb757]

The heroes act of 2003 however does give Biden the ability to forgive student loans.

[@Deckape75]

@@shevthegreb757 Authorizes the Secretary of Education in certain situations, to a limited degree, not across the board.

[@calwooten]

@@shevthegreb757 No. The wording and intent of the law when it was just passed certainly doesn't support that. Hence why SCOTUS ruled against.

[@shevthegreb757]

@@calwooten SCOTUS contains people who are both greedy and at a conflict of interest regarding Biden. They are one of the most corrupt people in US politics.

[@TheLexikitty]

Will still never understand how student loans are legally allowed to have interest. Should also be price caps so people don’t ever get charged these amounts again in the first place.

[@republicdefense354]

Because other wise no one would give out loans

[@ClockworkGearhead]

Just make it dischargeable through bankruptcy. Solves literally _every_ problem with the modern education scam. Can't have that, though. Colleges will have to be more intelligent with their spending and charging.

[@wv4776]

@@republicdefense354these people live in a fantasy world where money can be infinitely printed with no consequences and all the hospitals make medicine as cheap as possible because the only thing they care about is people being healthy.

[@darigaaz66]

@@republicdefense354 I mean, that’s why they are government loans. Private loans have an actual threshold you have to meet because giving someone with no credit, no job, and no assets $120,000 is insane.

[@cyberneticbutterfly8506]

@@republicdefense354 In my country they are interest free while studying, or if you are unemployed.

[@Maverick-pn7pf]

BAN COMPOUNDING INTREST LOANS! Problem solved. No one should borrow money, pay back that same amount of money, and still somehow owe that same amount of money. Its loan sharking and its disgusting.

[@jessfritzges7394]

What you are saying is to get rid of interest

[@natehill8069]

Who will want to loan you money if they dont benefit from it? I certainly wont invest my retirement plan into a company that doesnt make a profit.

[@michka841]

"No, we cannot afford to forgive student loans… oh btw there’s our new aircraft carrier"

[@tobyfitzpatrick565]

EXACTLY.

[@roscoejones374]

Why should the US tax payer have to pay for the poor choices of children with gender studies degrees?

[@teamofone1219]

@@roscoejones374 Why should we have to spend more money on the military when we aren't in war?

[@roscoejones374]

@@teamofone1219 it serves a purpose. It stops further wars. We live in the most peaceful time in human history because if anyone fucks around they find out very quickly. Now college grads make more money on average than non-college grads. Why should the poor have their tax dollars go to the most wealthy?

[@F_a_V1]

​@@roscoejones374As someone who is in poverty id rather pay taxes to fund my education then a conflict we should not even be involved in. Also making uni cheaper will help poor people. Wtf are on about it?

[@miguela.medinaperea7547]

So we the taxpayer have to bail out rich banks whenever they loose money betting wrong but when we want our citizens to be bailed out there is no money for that,doesn't the constitution say We the people? Not we the rich?

[@Solus3D]

SCOTUS works for the 1%.

[@chachachi-hh1ks]

This is capitalism. We are all livestock for big capitalists.

[@shackajoof7004]

@@chachachi-hh1kscommunism is just everyone is livestock to the government

[@charlescannon2469]

Come on, only land owners had rights when this whole thing started. Lets not pretend this isn't the american way.

[@3llzebub]

The big bank bailouts of 2008 required them to pay it all back, about 700 banks have fully repaid this debt totalling about $236 billion repaid, but there were 6 banks (in 2019) that still haven't paid. And they are still in business... looking at you OneUnited Bank.

[@az678910]

Start holding the colleges accountable not the taxpayers

[@RighteousRage]

Stop federally backing students loans. That’s what caused prices to explode. Tell big daddy government to get their fingers out of the pie and stay out of the way.

[@az678910]

@@RighteousRage I would prefer if we got rid of all of the programs that caused taxes to go up like that

[@gorgeousfreeman1318]

You took the loan, should we not hold people who take out money liable? Blame the federal government who don't even take into consideration if you'd be able to pay it off.

[@az678910]

@@gorgeousfreeman1318 I am with you there, I think 80% of college degrees are scams designed to make people take on exorbitant loans to create many generations of indentured servants

[@SpiritGear]

Forgiving student loans wouldnt effect tax payers at all...

[@cnnr_]

"I'm uneducated, this won't affect me at all?" "it actually will because the people with those loans now have an easier time living, more money to fuel the economy, are more productive in the workforce and can do more of the things in your life that require people who have a degree" "I don't understand that nonsense, if I don't get free money in my hand then it doesn't help me!!" "yeah figures, probably because you're uneducated"

[@juliusdauksys2183]

Yeah, people forget that without crippling debt people tend to actually participate in the economy

[@Aeivious]

​@@juliusdauksys2183 both participate and are free to use their degree to the best of their capabilities. Move to a different city for opportunities to use that degree in the first place.

[@mistgocrazy6587]

As a young person who works a trade and didn’t go to school I can’t wait for my taxes to go up 30% for the rest of my life so we can pay off Ashleys gender study major 😐

[@TaverickMama]

@@mistgocrazy6587 most people only pay about 15-20% of their gross as taxes so a 30% increase would amount to 5-6% which, even if you make 100k, wouldnt be enough to pay for a single f-22's (which we have bought dozens of every term) even if we tallied your whole lifetime of taxes, past and future. also i feel like youre undervaluing a gender studies degree. while its not as practical as advertising or business management, its still very useful in both of those fields. understanding the people you're trying to sell a product to is key in advertising and understanding people is very important when managing people or in HR situations.

[@Spetsnaz--21]

​@@mistgocrazy6587yea these people forget that in no way is it tax paying Americans resposibility to pay for something like this. Lets pay off my medical bills next shall we?

[@bromosome8049]

It disgusts me the justices get paid vacations and corporate sponsored college for their kids but dictate the government cant use our tax money to pay for our college

[@alack3879]

Republicans shaming anyone for circumnavigating anything is fuckin hilarious.

[@jypsridic]

They're not the party of corruption or destroying american freedoms and values though.

[@Daryndapro]

Bro them releasing students debt makes the colleges charge more

[@grillygrilly]

@@Daryndapro Just forbid them from doing that then? It's not that hard.

[@dkoadwadadwadadwadad8540]

@@grillygrilly its private business though im pretty sure they can charge whatever they want

[@ToddTheFoxxx]

“Democrats shaming citizens for circumnavigating the government and supporting the government circumnavigating itself is fuckin hilarious”

[@Sambochini]

Everyone arguing over their perspectives but no one cares about why the education debts are soo shameful. University and college way over charge

[@joshuagrimes5593]

I almost went to the cheapest uni in my state. Tuition and fees was $6,000. A 75 sqft shared dorm was $16,000 and there was also about a $1,100 fee for meals. The dorms had no kitchen or appliances. They also had a rule that freshmans had to live on dorm campuses even if they were from the same town. Absolute highway robbery.

[@poochie5543]

@@joshuagrimes5593why didn’t you go to community college for your first two years?

[@joshuagrimes5593]

@poochie5543 I am now. My parents refused to pay that amount and I didn't receive any fasfa or any meaningful scholarships. I got a job and now going to a community college.

[@poochie5543]

@@joshuagrimes5593 good for you!

[@marshallfischer3667]

Forgive the debts and you haven't seen over charging yet.

[@driftwolf]

Odd how the GOP has a hard-on against forgiving 7 billion in student loans, but is JUST FINE with forgiving 400 billion in PPP loans, many of which were to the already wealthy. Good old GOP. Gravely hypOcritical Party.

[@kelliepatrick519]

Yes, but when it benefits We The People, it's socialism. When it benefits the rich or the corporations, it's Capitalism....or something.

[@jaimemarrero3982]

Something I think would be fair is to put a cap on how much interest a loan can accrue. It is insane to me how some people have to pay more than twice the amount they borrowed in interest. Somewhere around 150% of the amount borrowed should be like a hard cap, and even then that seems excessive. Maybe this shouldn't apply to ALL loans, but at least for student loans, where some people get buried in debt before they can start working.

[@MMDelta9]

Why not cut federal funding to universities forcing them to compete on an open market?

[@theduckyninja1086]

​@@MMDelta9That doesnt really solve the loan issue unless that somehow makes colleges cheap enough that people dont need loans (which I hoghly doubt). Also I don't think that would work anyway. Prestigious colleges can easily get away with costing more due to their name (like brand name items) so I doubt it would actually lower prices. In fact, it may increase prices of some colleges instead.

[@MMDelta9]

@@theduckyninja1086 Loans are only an issue because the government was pushing them. Tuition costs ran out of control because of subsidies and these loans. Think about it- You're offering a high demand service with a relatively low overhead cost. To maximize the value of your service, you need as many buyers as you can get. But keeping your service costs low, more people can buy from you. But that incentive to keep costs low is obliterated if you know the federal government will use tax payer money to cover most of your clients expenses and the banks are going to hand out high interest, no credit needed loans like TikTaks, ensuring you have a customer base regardless of the quality of your service or the price you're charging. That's what education is and why the costs have run away on us. Over a third of your tuition fees will pay for infrastructure, sports, staffers (from professors to janitors), marketing, tenured positions, administration (including useless HR positions), student experience.... How much fat could be trimmed there? Don't believe me? My post secondary education cost me less than $10k cause it was run out of a 2 story office building rented out for half a dozen different trade courses. I was already employed in my field of study before even finishing the 2 year course. Branding for education only really matters as far as networking is concerned. Most college grads are simply not going to need the prestige of a college like Harvard or Yale, and it's worth noting that prestige only exists *because those schools are charging people out the nose.* Treat the colleges like any other business. Starve them out and you will see prices come down out of necessity.

[@stevena8326]

It’s almost like allowing student loans to be voided under bankruptcy would solve all these issues rather than put a bandaid on it

[@stansman5461]

Can I do the same with other loans and still keep the property? Can I keep my house if I declare bankruptcy after my mortgage? Or keep my car? Or keep using my credit card?

[@abbywatson8133]

​@@stansman5461It depends on the type of bankruptcy, literally just Google it.

[@Jack-sq6xb]

​@@stansman5461what is the point here exactly? If you take on debt to go on a vacation across the world then go bankrupt the collector can't undo that vacation

[@stansman5461]

@@Jack-sq6xb yes, but debt for vacations isn't a blanket cheque. The bank will discuss collateral and have a right to decide if you're worth the risk. They'll also be able to calculate the risk of bankruptcy. Can't do that with student loans. Banks aren't being allowed to pick and choose student loans. Because they'd definitely loan to a doctor or lawyer and not someone studying french art history. But apparently, that's discriminatory and everyone should be equally able to follow their dreams, no matter how useless.

[@Jack-sq6xb]

@@stansman5461 the loans being forgiven aren't from the bank, they're from the government which is based on information from the fafsa. Further, when someone goes bankrupt, other things than just collateral can be repossessed in compension. Its common sense that debt is annuled in bankruptcy

[@vvkelly97]

Doesn't help enough people but at least it's something.

[@kurger100]

debts cannot be erased

[@dogg6628]

​@@kurger100cope

[@PerryIceFire]

The US could be better if we didn't have people going against the advancement of Human kind and Human rights. *cough....* Republicans.

[@human9668]

​@@kurger100it's been done since ancient times and for good reasons. Literally one of the first usages of a word meaning freedom was related to debt forgiveness. (Ama-gi)

[@kurger100]

@@fishtacodeluxe1940 go study about bankruptcy if you think that 'magically' eliminate debts.. that's not how bankruptcy works. Also why you are trying to bring in the bible. religion and politics has to be separated, isn't it according to most leftists

[@Scottiboiy]

I don’t understand why college can’t just be free like other countries. Or why can’t it be cheap. Or why can’t I get paid to go to school so I’m not fucking my life over.

[@swankshire6939]

Because people with money want to keep making as much money as possible. If college was free they wouldn't be able to claw every cent from kids who don't know better than get $50,000+ of student loans.

[@kelliepatrick519]

College is generally free in countries that have extreme entry requirements (ie, completed highschool with top marks). In America, anyone can go to college at anytime (with a sufficiently high entrance exam) but we have to pay for it. In other words, free college is a narrow pipeline. Paid college is a river that people can jump into at any point in the their life.

[@KK-tt6ui]

“ a yo, you can’t do that “ lol

[@VilliageSquidiot]

Only corporations get bailouts :)

[@gmork1090]

Exactly. Because they are gods and everyone else should burn in hell because eff em, that's why.

[@slappy8941]

Corporations all support Democrats.

[@mathguy97]

@@slappy8941 My guy what weed are you smoking?

[@marshallfischer3667]

Hey you sign the paperwork just like I did. I paid back mine. You pay back yours.

[@J-manli]

@@marshallfischer3667 While I don’t want to assume your age, the average student debt of today’s college grads far exceeds the amount of college grads from 30 years ago. However, despite the increase in tuition, wages have not increased in a manner proportional to that increase. We are not in the same economic situation as before.

[@blackfalcon1324]

Forgiving student loan debt after 25 years already was a thing

[@neilkurzman4907]

Yes, it was already a thing, but the way the government and the loan servicer is handled it it was almost impossible to achieve

[@plursocks]

Right? Not sure why we're patting them on the back for just undoing a previous injustice and not actually keeping his promise still

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@plursocks He kept his promise. Others decided to override him. Not much he can do about that. Finally, you’re talking about his promise you it’s a promise you didn’t want him to keep. Now it’s just political ammunition.

[@MaJetiGizzle]

@@neilkurzman4907 WRONG! There are a multitude of things he can do about it. One of those is what he did by invoking the Higher Education Act.

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@MaJetiGizzle Yes, he did what he could do.

[@mfumich]

This wiped out $141,888 of student loan debt for me.

[@TheSaxAppeal]

Only in a complete dystopia is it ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL to FORGIVE DEBT

[@williamstamper442]

If it WAS constitutional then the government would forgive their own debt.

[@yahyarazi5597]

​@@williamstamper442how dafuq is it fair to people that didn't take any loan?

[@williamstamper442]

@@yahyarazi5597 it's not fair to anybody except those getting the freebie and that's not what we call.fair. I was just saying IF the government could forgive debt it would forgive it's own 34trillion

[@stevehagen9804]

“We’re gunna do a thing” “That’s illegal, you can’t.” *does* *a* *bunch* *of* *cocaine* “Well we couldn’t do that, either”

[@The_NJG]

Yup.

[@Lyran7]

Hunters become hunted

[@udavster]

Oh no, hunter is soo bad. Hope he shares a cell with trump.

[@havoc989]

@@udavsterthe whole Biden family really needs to share a cell joe has been doing corrupt stuff to keep Hunter out of trouble since before he was vice president

[@mobiusone6994]

​​@@udavsterUnlike Hunter, Trump didn't break any laws, no matter how much the criminal-in-chief and his simps mald about it lmao

[@jiancosta9042]

I hope this is not the only student loan forgiveness going on It is the younger generation that is most negatively effected by this debt

[@nobot6177]

It’s not anyones fault but their own they took out that debt. As a member of the younger generation I say let them drown. It’s not my fault they made the bad decision of taking it out without being able to pay it back, so why put it on the one who actually got a job to pay it back???

[@hsiencheetan7356]

No one forced them to take useless courses that cant land them a decent job. Never have u seen engineers, doctors or lawyers complained about student loans. Just gender studies bs

[@sirdeadlock]

​@@nobot6177Wow, man. You must be an island cut off from the mainland of society, because helping others be more productive citizens often resluts in a net gain for GDP, which helps all of us.

[@MrGameadd1ct]

​@@nobot6177Big, "I have mine so screw you all" energy.

[@doublemint3664]

​@@nobot6177yeah all young people should be in low income so China can further outpace us and America will become a third world country, wounds like a great plan

[@commonsense.1014]

Actually the department of education has the ability. It's literally in their power.

[@TarmacSkin]

20 years w that thing over your shoulders… thats a heavy load.

[@vermas4654]

Imagine being against helping students

[@daddylonglegs2744]

Imagine taking a loan for a college degree that won’t get you any job and getting mad when you can’t pay it back.

[@GarrettGuerra]

Imagine thinking the money comes out of thin air or are you okay with making America tax payers pay students debt

[@joshuaoverlord5327]

Imagine paying back your own loan

[@seanf1451]

​@@GarrettGuerraSo I assume you are against all the military spending?

[@seanf1451]

​@daddylonglegs2744 Well guess what? The job market changes. A solid career could be basically die between starting and finishing your career

[@avyfa1946]

They should allow student loans to be discharged automatically when people go through bankruptcy process.

[@gabelincoln3608]

Why do you think that’s true

[@gabelincoln3608]

If you were going to do that college would go up exponentially. Just like a house if you go bankrupt from your debt then you don’t get a college degree it automatically gets revoked. Nobody would ever pay their fucking college degrees if you could just get it removed college degree is such a bad investment nobody ever would pay it out.

[@Notevenmad955]

@@gabelincoln3608hese government backed loans got people in this mess in the first place. Just revoke the college degree if you wish to discharge the loan. I’m sure those underwater basket weaving degrees(or other degrees that only earn you a spot at mcdonalds) are very useful. And I’m sure colleges are spending the millions on tuition on better teaching and research instead of hedge funds

[@xancypillosi]

You should also forfeit your degree in bankruptcy as well. DUUUUH

[@anyonelastone3140]

how dare u shame jc dentons image. Student loans are already incredibly favorable, so much so only the government can give u a deal this good and regular banks cant compete. Your just spoiled. get a job.

[@bubbathedm]

Forgiving student loans doesn’t mean shit if they don’t also make college and trade school free so that we don’t just end up doing this shit again later

[@pikachufantastic]

Supereme court saying no to the student debt relife is stupid and clearly a political move.

[@Levaine69]

How tho?

[@bane3991]

Why should my money goes towards people who can't pay off a debt? That's not fair why I should go without so they can have when I make good financial decisions

[@jo4n11]

​@@bane3991where was this passion for free PPP loans?

[@bane3991]

@@jo4n11 I am against PPP loans or any sort of government bail out. I didn't mention that here because the video is specifically about student loans. But I'm against all these bailouts. It is not fair for the people who do the right thing because we pay for those at the end of the day in 1 way or another. It gives the incentive to do the wrong thing because now people will get bailed out. Or business. Both are wrong.

[@beefsupreme4671]

You can’t forgive debt. You can only transfer it.

[@aval5098]

Real question, not being facetious. What’s your thoughts on interest? At extremely high rates? Even now if we talk about inflation all the data shows that a large part of price hikes (let’s say groceries for example) are not supply chain demand etc. but profits instead. Profits that are not being passed down to employees. Also the way the US now treats/views monopolies has changed. Sure, you can charge whatever you want for power if you’re the only company supplying electricity to an area, but at a certain point it becomes unsustainable and eventually cripples society. Also. As a side bar. Why is it so much more expensive to be poor in this country? People rent for more money monthly than it would just cost for them to get a mortgage but they can’t. They’ll have higher interest rates on almost anything. You can’t even keep money in your bank account without getting charged. If someone has under a certain amount in their account they will be charged. I get that “it’s not a charity” mentality but does that actually make sense? Banks do have other forms of income, so it’s not just that.

[@beefsupreme4671]

@@aval5098 it’s hard to answer your question without a chapter long explanation on how and what inflation is. But let me give you a real quick answer. Anyone who tells you that profits are causing inflation are either lying to you our are completely ignorant of basic economics. It simply is not true. As to why being poor is so expensive in the US that is easier to answer. People who live on less than 2 dollars a day, or whatever you use to define poverty, simply have much less stuff. Have you noticed how a large part of the homeless have phones or even TVs. They all eat every day and can afford drugs in a lot of examples. The poverty in the US is not the same as poverty in countries where people actually starve.

[@beefsupreme4671]

@@aval5098 so I saw another comment by you. I said that inflation was caused by profit and greed. Does this mean that before the inflation you believe that corporations were not greedy?

[@praetorjaeger]

Some debt is better then none. Glad there is still some follow through on campaign promises

[@kleinboyd7415]

@@aaronjjacquesbro chill out they literally said “SOME dept [relief] is better than none”

[@billcox8870]

The student loans won't be forgiven, you and others will be paying them. It is just another form of Socialism. Don't forget that no nation has ever thrived under socialism.

[@aaronjjacques]

@@kleinboyd7415 it is just plain stupid to destroy a debt-destroying tank to get a tricycle

[@slappy8941]

Then and than are different words with different meanings, genius.

[@billcox8870]

@@slappy8941 why are you getting so worked up over bad grammar?

[@ShinoSarna]

If only Dems grew balls to go after Supreme Court.

[@_PannieCake_]

"I need my loans forgiven!" "Then why did you get them if you couldn't afford college...? Why not work, save, and then go?" "Because i don't want to work. Working is hard. I just want stuff given to me!"

[@brysondynamite2055]

The comments: "wow he's actually doing something good" The replies: "BuT aCtUaLlY" Guys chill, I'm not saying hes right, I'm just saying what the comments are saying

[@gewnurb]

I don't think transfering YOUR debt to the middle class will help society in any way

[@brysondynamite2055]

@@gewnurb who said I'm not middle class

[@I_Quarter_]

​@@brysondynamite2055by YOUR he probably meant people who can't pay their loans, and the way he knows is if you are middle class you make enough money to pay your loan and don't require daddy govt to pay it for you using other people's money.

[@asschomp]

​@@gewnurbif only the rich were required to pay more taxes! I wonder what political party wants that to happen 🤔 couldn't be the one that want everybody to pay the same regarding taxes including those who make 20,000 a month

[@goazer2]

Government money is not free money. I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for people to understand. It comes from taxpayers. This means that ANY government spending is never just a good thing, it is a trade off of some kind.

[@aaliyahkishore246]

So something good happened in America. Am I dreaming?

[@Dragon287]

IDK

[@thomasjefferson5727]

What's good about taking money fron responsible people and giving to the irresponsible?

[@joshuaoverlord5327]

Why should we pay there loan they took out

[@Sick_Sara]

@@thomasjefferson5727 Idk, I'll ask the person who gives you your money and tell you, deal?

[@alexthewrecker4666]

​@@thomasjefferson5727because all of those PPP loans help the people 😍🤑🇺🇸🦅🍔

[@annuitcoeptis9997]

Why not just make college free/much less expensive? Like in most western countrys?

[@lbfeline2782]

And never a peep about the insane interest rates on student loans. I should be criminal what they charge.

[@williamstamper442]

Your student debt must be extra hard to bear since you must have failed basic English. You said "I should be criminal"... Hope you know I'm just poking fun and not trying to be mean. I apologize if you take the above comment serious. I thought it was pretty funny.

[@brad885]

You're a subject, not a citizen. Quit voting these liars in.

[@gwenmcgarry528]

You have the choice of the liars who rarely help the people, or the liars that actively hurt the people. Still important to vote in the less bad liars lol, despite how much it sucks

[@timsonins]

Voting in USA is useless. 99% of vote-eligible people are sheeps and don't know there's more than 2 parties. So the government uses it to push two most profitable (for them) people in there. That's how it's been for centuries.

[@pandax5359]

Having the choices of liars, choosing the lesser evil is important

[@TurtleTracksStudio]

Ranked choice voting is so crucial, I genuinely detest the USA

[@usernamealreadytaken9330]

@@gwenmcgarry528 Can you guys collectively vote no as a symbolism that both candidates are dog water and let them choose another?

[@BigShot69]

1: College tuition is too high 2: The taxpayer should not be financially responsible for any higher education other than their own

[@onyxtay7246]

Education should be free, funded by taxpayers instead of placing an undue burden on lower-income people to go into debt in order to get an education. This works in many other countries. Why wouldn't it work in the USA? Who gains by forcing the working class to go into debt in order to get access to higher education?

[@TurtleTracksStudio]

You don't want your taxes to go towards actively improving the USA? Interesting.

[@Demonicpurity]

@@TurtleTracksStudio Not every degree is an improvement to the United States. A lot of people have pretty much useless degrees that end up with them having to work at star bucks anyway. Some modern Social science degrees are basically worthless and might even work against you. The most beneficial education the United States could invest in right now isn't even a degree program. We have a shortage of certified plumbers and electricians. Trade school and apprenticeships.

[@dummyemail8430]

@@onyxtay7246 no one is forcing you to go to college. if you are in debt, that is your problem so stop complaining. All taxation is theft.

[@onyxtay7246]

@@dummyemail8430 I'm actually not in debt. I would just rather my tax money go towards helping people instead of giving the cops another tank. Really curious bout that last part though. Is it theft to use taxes to build roads and pay firefighters? Or is it just theft if you don't like where the money goes?

[@chrisbuck1095]

I’m a young guy and was in a school that was deemed a scam ITT tech and my debt was around 12k, it was all completely wiped off my credit report a couple years ago.

[@jo4n11]

This supreme court should be serving time for taking bribes.

[@dstarchild2549]

I am already on this plan. It's called income based repayment. If I continue to be under a certain income. I pay 0$ a month for up to 20 years and my debt is forgiven.

[@darigaaz66]

Yeah, sucks though when you make over a certain amount they can charge up to 10% of your income.

[@valfreyaaurora4922]

Yes, thanks for being knowledgeable on student loans… so many people talking out their ass about things they know nothing about. Also they plan to make it 10 years in future so hopefully that catches everyone up

[@valfreyaaurora4922]

@@darigaaz66that is being lowered to 5%

[@dstarchild2549]

@@valfreyaaurora4922 my mom's a financial aid advisor for a community college. So I never really had the choice to not be knowledgeable about them 😂. I am thankful for the knowledge and access that has given me.

[@marshallfischer3667]

Maybe you should have gotten a degree that was worth something. Just saying

[@UwOtt]

So many people out there not giving a damn about their fellow man. Caring only about making the rich richer and the poor poorer, because that’s “just”. This is the reason why America is what it is right now. THEY are the reason people cannot pay their loans back. This lack of compassion will destroy America ere long

[@Calvinooi]

So the poor and the responsible people who paid off their loans by getting useful degrees and budgeted their expenses to make prompt payments Should now have their taxes increased to bail out the middle class and irresponsible, that took a useless degree and did not make good financial choices? Wow

[@UwOtt]

@@Calvinooi yeah sure, it’s middle class who still have their student debts in their 50s. Also, bailing out literal billionaires is okay in your opinion eh?

[@shikikankillzone4239]

​@@UwOttDidn't not bailing out crucial companies literally cause the stock market to commit suicide in the 1920s?

[@Calvinooi]

@@UwOtt I'm all for not bailing out rich people, have you not read my second point? If you take out a useless degree, can't get a job that pays alright, and yet still took out a hefty loan, then sure it's your fault.

[@UwOtt]

@@shikikankillzone4239 no, SMC of 1929 happened for entirely different reasons

[@mrsfitt4637]

Does anyone actually know anyone that got their loans forgiven? I don't, do you? Please let us know..

[@PlannedMayhem]

Why doesn’t Biden change how student loans are issued in the future? People who’ve signed their contracts have already signed them… but changing the system so no kid had to sign up for predatory loans would basically solve this in 20 years.

[@albaracheetah9083]

My favorite cereal box just got even smaller

[@whoknows4780]

I only get cereal when there’s a deal for them.

[@Ellie_rose826]

Let’s be honest, never once has Biden sounded that smart.

[@bigvaxmeanie925]

Really? Republicans keep crying hes some super genius criminal master mind.

[@shikikankillzone4239]

​@@bigvaxmeanie925Not like you need to be intelligent to be a criminal mastermind, you can just look at the cartels in Brazil and see that.

[@ohthechitchat]

If it was to navigate the Supreme Court it would not be shameful. Those cronies have too much strangle hold on everything

[@wolfdayday]

Okay, i just want to go on record and saying that its wild we have student loan debt in this nation on people who have been paying it for 25 years. That is beyond wild. All that money could be put into a home or something.

[@cnnr_]

Yes because homes are affordable too

[@Bigolhusk]

"I'll forgive your debt.... If you pay it off..."

[@LostWallet]

no, its forgiving your debt if you cant even pay it off after 20-25 years. there is a big differences

[@Bigolhusk]

@@LostWallet so just pay a bill for 20 years and THEN they will reimburse you. Ya that will totally be honored by a future administration

[@LostWallet]

@@Bigolhusk dude, are you ok? ignore future administration. didnt you just hear that there are 800,000 people that could get this debt forgiven right now? that is 800,000 people who are still in debt from college that is already paying their student loan for 20-25 years that this could help right now. why are you looking for the future when this could help this much people right now? what is wrong with you?

[@Bigolhusk]

@@LostWallet I think I'm just confused. This is for people who 25 years ago were in college and are still paying it off?

[@LostWallet]

@@Bigolhusk yeh. its not for people who getting loan to day, and planning to get it forgive 25 years latter.

[@link0248]

My mom had hers forgiven and she started crying Help, I commented something I thought would be lighheartening, but I think I did the opposite

[@crislouise2509]

I would to if I had to wait a whole 20 years. I'd be balling my eyes out thinking why did you wait this long, why have me suffer for 20 years

[@Rhov9]

Exactly!!!! Just because it’s not as many as we wanted, if it’s clearly under their authority then absolutely they have a duty to do it.

[@dummyemail8430]

@@crislouise2509 YOU chose to take on debt, why are you so pissed you have to pay it off?

[@dummyemail8430]

@@Rhov9 a DUTY? where in the Constitution does it say that the president has a duty to cancel voluntarily accepted debt? YOU entered into the loan contract of your own accord. You made your bed, lie in it.

[@crislouise2509]

@@dummyemail8430 I personally never took any loans I'm just saying if that was me I'd be both relived but pissed it took so long to. Also the way loans work for college education is vary rigged against the students in terms of intrest and inflated prices for essential materials colleges require thier students to use. Look at the cost of food,boarding and textbooks especially.

[@dreadernightkiller]

Still waiting for all the big loans businesses were forgiven to be brought back.

[@allig6467]

If you take out a loan, you pay it back. That's it. You signed the papers.

[@drshlotzkin]

How these "college grads" cant pay back $50k in loans is astounding. But they can purchase a car or home.

[@drewbabe]

@@drshlotzkin they can't purchase a car or home. the stats on kids moving back in with their parents have skyrocketed. there are so many articles written on why home ownership is on the rapid decline and how the reduced purchasing has allowed huge banks and corporate landlords to buy huge swaths of homes and just sit on em until they appreciate in value or can be rented out. as for cars, leasing and rental has steadily been gaining over ownership financing, and the average age of a car on the road is increasing as well because people are stretching old jalopies as far as they can go, even if there are safety problems. the upside of this is that more people are commuting to work via carpool or bus so I guess that slightly reduces emissions, but that's the wrong way to go about it. also, how can you say "$50k in loans" like it's nothing? i'm pretty sure that's the median gross income for a college grad in the US, so that's income pre-tax and pre-living expenses, and let's not forget these loans all have interest! with living costs rising while wages stay stagnant, the problem with only get worse. only people getting jobs in extremely lucrative fields are able to pay their loans back, and there are only so many of those jobs to go around. we can't have the whole generation all go be programmers, the glut of labor supply would drive wages down and just recreate the same problem.

[@allig6467]

@@drewbabe first of all, he never said 50k in loans was nothing. Secondly, get out of the cities. I bought my first home at 23, you can do it. Thirdly, people on an average wage can pay their loans back if they live within their means (90% of Americans dont). Also, the trade jobs are extremely lucrative and in need everywhere, so that's not even an argument.

[@Wcduc]

@@allig6467 Can’t all be traders tho.. You don’t have to support this rotten system.

[@omaranthony3703]

@@allig6467dude is right we can’t all be traders what about engineers or doctors lawyers programmers while trades are the backbone college shapes the future of America

[@Sick_Sara]

The way that you have to get a debt for half of your life (if not longer) just to get a higher education in the US is beyond my understanding. I payed like 40$ entry fee to go to my university.

[@tbe0116]

And then you’ll pay a 50-70% in taxes (income, vat, etc) for the rest of your life. I lived in Europe. Taxes are insane.

[@joshuaoverlord5327]

There trade schools /scholarships/military service and etc we should not pay there loans

[@alexthewrecker4666]

​@@tbe0116there is no 70% tax rate. Also the tax rate scales based on your income just like the US

[@seanf1451]

​@@tbe0116I lived in Norway, my taxes were less than most Americans pay. They just do money better

[@tbe0116]

@@alexthewrecker4666 Sweden is 70% at $98k+. The UK is 60% between $100k and $125k. There is also a 20% sales tax on early everything. That adds up fast.

[@BobTheGodly]

The real problem is college degrees are seldom worth anything and that's because they don't prepare you for a job.

[@avres13]

Why should those of us who worked hard to master a trade have to pay for degrees that that the privileged obtained

[@kelliepatrick519]

If they took out student loans, they were NOT privileged, they were poor. And the issue isn't taking out the loans, it's that the American wages have been suppressed for over 20 years.

[@jean-lucwalker3690]

The good thing about a president who's been a senator for 50 years is that he remembers voting on bills like this

[@jdogkingz1631]

Biden has failed this country for 50 years he needs to go

[@jtbiberdorf]

I doubt he remembers anything

[@Crazy52]

imagine making the tax payers pay for debt adults took willingly

[@stansman5461]

He doesn't remember if he took a dump in the morning.

[@003SOK]

oh biden had a big hand in the mess we're in today. "In 1978, Biden supported the Middle Income Student Assistance Act, which eliminated income restrictions on federal loans to expand eligibility to all students. Biden helped write a separate bill that year blocking students from seeking bankruptcy protections on those loans after graduation. (The income restrictions on federal loans were reinstated in 1981.) Then he went on to vote to create the Parent Loan for Undergraduate Students, or PLUS, program in 1980 and the Auxiliary Loans to Assist Students, or ALAS, program in 1981, which extended loan eligibility to students with no parental financial support." so biden was basically those guys in The Big Short who wanted to give anyone with a pulse a loan to buy a home. seems like a really kind thing to do, everyone needs a home, but in reality giving everyone who asks a ton of debt without confirming their ability to pay back that debt is a good way to build a Trillion dollars worth of unpayable debt which will likely cause a economic depression. “I don’t think you should be paying for my son [Hunter] going to Yale Law School. I don’t think you should be paying for my daughter [Ashley] to go to the University of Pennsylvania,” he said at a campaign stop in New Hampshire, according to a Washington Post reporter. “I do think we should make it more affordable to attend school.” The reporter clarified in a follow-up tweet that Biden was specifically referring to loan forgiveness and not the related debate about tuition-free college.

[@OppressedPotato]

"I willingly took out a loan that I promised to pay back myself. Now it is time for the American taxpayers to pay it for me."

[@FelixIsLosing]

These same people are the ones trying to defund the police. I guess it's all fun and games when their own selfish self-interests are met. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@OHGAS-rt5uc]

What's funnier is the ones making the cancer analogy (saying people would get mad that a cure for cancer was created) but like, my brother in christ, you chose to get a loan, you don't make the choise to get cancer

[@Lucky13Ravens]

Thankyou for the Sanity.

[@kainable8769]

A direct insult to those of us that paid theirs back

[@Bluebooty]

Ah, yes The classic “I’m miserable so everyone else should be too”

[@kainable8769]

@@Bluebooty uh…. Pardon. I am perfectly happy: married, 3 beautiful kids, a gorgeous home, and debit free. I paid my student loans off. I have no clue what you mean…. Unless you are talking about those wanting this. I refuse to let my tax dollars go to paying off low life scum that could not get a job because they majored in lesbian dance theory, I majored in IT a field that always needs more people.

[@mattdillon4398]

@@Bluebooty Don't go to college if you can't afford it! Forcing people that already paid their loans to pay yours as well is theft! Not to mention really slimey and lazy!

[@JDOGTV-]

​@@kainable8769exactly well said

[@QuesoCookies]

"I survived cancer, how dare they find a cure for it!"

[@ghostnoodle9721]

Politicians will do anything to not have to pick up a pen

[@duffy1419]

People in the comments are acting like the government paying for higher education is a new scary thing when they already have been doing this for decades for former military members under the GI bill which was passed all the way back in 1944.

[@imzjustplayin]

Yeah well back then it didn't cost a small fortune to get a degree and those people earned those degrees with their sacrifice. I doubt anybody posting here is willing to join the military to get their free college degree.

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

The government doesn't pay for anything, they only take and print

[@cryowisp3267]

"Guys, you don't understand. we NEEEED to give more money to some of the richest people on the planet"

[@udavster]

Yep, people who can not pay for their college debt are very rich. Confirmed.

[@henriquefinger935]

@@udavster I think you misunderstood.

[@teamofone1219]

@@udavster He's talking about the rich people in office who makes money off that kind of shit.

[@reecethomas1863]

Based comment

[@reecethomas1863]

@@udavsterthey have the privilege of even going to college. They are the middle to upper class people.

[@dannyzwolf4546]

I didn't rack up college debt, where's my money, oh yhea it's going to pay off college debt I didn't get the benefits of.

[@mightymulatto3000]

Those older people with student loans can't go on revealing the system for the complete sham it is.

[@pknepps]

Here's and idea, and hear me out. Don't take out a loan.

[@thebrokentable7554]

How do you go to college then?

[@pknepps]

@@thebrokentable7554 work, save money through highschool. Find a college in your budget. That's what I did. I am 6 semesters in. Have zero debt and have enough money saved for 2 more semesters

[@iregretthis8351]

​@@pknepps so for the state college I'm looking at it costs 28854$ (that includes tuition, books, on campus housing at cheapest price, ect) for the first year without aid, let's say I'm lucky and am paid 15$ (I am not) an hour at a part time job and can work 30ish hours a week. To pay for that I'd need to work over 1923 hours or roughly 83 days of straight work. While may seem stressful but doable at first glance, let's consider how over-staffed many places are in my area, working around attending high school and completing homework, taxes, extra money needed for goods and services, and when I start attending emergency funds (a hospital trips cost a lot), car insurance, and savings it becomes a bit harder to pay that off with out help.

[@Hirotechnics]

​@@pkneppslad must be going to Bangor University or something lol

[@roachymart2318]

@@iregretthis8351 don't forget rent, bills, food, transportation... $15 an hour isn't going to cut it. I know you said some of it and that was the general message, but there are some thick skulls out there that think you can still "pull yourself up by your bootstraps"

[@ampersandellipsis747]

colleges might raise prices if they know people are getting debt forgiven, as they know people are more likely to apply to an expensive college if it's paid for by the government. We need to have price control on college education if it is necessary for a large number of jobs in America.

[@valfreyaaurora4922]

What study or research shows debt forgiveness = higher cost? They charge whatever they want. Make them government funded and negotiated - problem solved - free college for anyone that wants it

[@ampersandellipsis747]

@@valfreyaaurora4922 that's a good idea, but we need transparency in prices so people can steer away from overpriced colleges. Maybe it should be a fixed rate + percentage of total cost, so that you pay nothing for cheaper colleges but some percent of colleges over some price.

[@dummyemail8430]

@@valfreyaaurora4922 because government price negotiation totally preserves quality of service.

[@L337N1NJ4L1NK]

I mean, the Biden Admin still can't do that. It's even in the video, Congress has to do that.

[@Pinkstarpirate]

My 19k of remaining student loans were forgiven in December. It absolutely worked and helped.

[@tkj6557]

The way she looks so ridiculously excited to recklessly waste $39 billion in taxpayer funds is spot on for democrats.

[@TsunamiNR]

You should really look up the stats on growth of national debts by president… I’ll help: the biggest spender ever was Reagan.

[@yellowwarrior3025]

@@TsunamiNRyour reason for wasting this money is “well this president wasted more money so we should waste this money”. It’s taxpayers money, who a lot are not college educated paying to pay off your loans for your degree.

[@TsunamiNR]

@@yellowwarrior3025 My reason for mentioning the stats on gouvernement spending is to show the hypocrisy of republicans when they act like the dems are the big spenders. I wouldn’t care about who spends how much if republicans weren’t trying to act all high and mighty on this general topic. As for the reason for spending the money in this specific instance, it’s that living amongst educated people is a win for the whole of society, not just the student. Don’t forget that progress in science for instance doesn’t just make the life of the researcher better, it makes all our lives better. Also having a rich economy full of innovation is good for everyone. Lastly, we live in a democracy where stupid people have as many votes as smart people, so the more educated we all are, the better, and I’ll gladly spend a few bucks in order to promote it.

[@quesoquesadila6094]

@@TsunamiNR you mean the 97th United States Congress (as Congress is the one who makes the budget, not the president) surprise surprise, 97th US Congress was a democratic majority

[@TsunamiNR]

@@quesoquesadila6094 Congress makes the budget, but the president ultimately decides whether he signs it off, or to veto it. He is therefore responsible. Also, note that republicans like to take credit for the economic changes of the 80’s, including the federal budget. It’s even called “Reaganomics”. So either you take the credit, and also the criticism of augmenting the national debt, or you take none of it and Reaganomics was actually a democrats achievement… you can’t have both.

[@halohybrid5496]

College didn’t cost as much back then as it does today. It’s a partial win and couldn’t be happier for those people but those who are currently coming out of college like myself that are balancing a job (if you have one), living expenses, food, and bills can be extremely underwhelming. Employers are putting out help wanted flyers and available positions online just to not hire anybody.

[@michealpersicko9531]

Well yeah that's because the minimum wage stayed stagnant for years while the cost of living went up and up and up. You used to be able to pay for yale with a 7.50 an hour job; that certainly is not the case anymore. Also there's been a stronger and stronger emphasis about how important college is even though that couldn't be further from the truth. We need more affordable education(free would be ideal but that wouldn't happen in the USA) and less of an emphasis on the "fact" that you can't get a good job with just a high school diploma or GED and you need some sort of college diploma on top of it to get a good job.

[@FelixIsLosing]

I don't understand why so many democrats regard student loan forgiveness as some victory. The people that were responsible with their institution and degree choice aren't the ones needing this loan. To quote another comment on this video: "...The bill is essentially meant to take money from responsible people and give it to irresponsible people..." As a progressive, woke and proud Biden organisation supporter, shouldn't you be supposed to be against this? Is it acceptable to empoverish everyone in order for your own self-interest. I expect you to be preaching for more funding for lower class minorities. Which is more important, your selfish self-interest or the people actually suffering? Could you fathom a world where police departments actually gets proper funding and woke people like you have to pay their loans like grown adults. I guess that's a crazy thought for you!

[@halohybrid5496]

@@FelixIsLosing define “woke” from its actual origins. Also, nice of you to assume I’m a Biden supporter.

[@2peter1v2]

Nothing cost as much back then. Everything costs more now. Surprise!

[@ddichny]

If you think it costs too much now, then don't go to an expensive school if you can't afford it. Problem solved. But if you choose to go to an expensive school and take out a loan to do it, that's on you, you pay it back, don't make the taxpayers pay for your foolish choice.

[@thefrankperspective4247]

I want that “Ayo, you can’t” to be the official ruling

[@NamelessVoice808]

I got my last $10k forgiven from this program. I graduated in 2002 and because my payments have been made for the qualifying amount of time, they just forgave the rest. So happy I was able to be one of those 800,000 that qualified!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@kotk05]

So that means you'll vote for Biden and only Democrats in 2024?

[@MiniSquatch785]

Soooo people who didn't go to college have to pay for the people who decided to go to college.

[@drewbabe]

your tax dollars do not fund federal spending, they are used to curb inflation by reducing money supply. the federal government pays for its own spending by printing money (yes, really.) google modern monetary theory to learn more about how this works at a systemic level and its implications if you like, but the long and short of it is that with only a few exceptions (like social security) your taxes have nothing to do with paying for anything, they're just how the government tries to control inflation caused by its own activity. if all government spending was paid for through taxes, then any budget increases would directly affect the tax rate on a per-year basis, but as you can see from US tax law, they don't.

[@yellowwarrior3025]

⁠@@drewbabeyour dumb theory doesn’t work because of inflation. Zimbabwe basically disproves your theory.

[@Wcduc]

@@yellowwarrior3025 This ain’t Zimbabwe tho

[@yellowwarrior3025]

@@Wcduc it’s an example of what happens when you print too much money

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

@@drewbabe so they either use tax payer funds to pay for it, or they print money and cause inflation for it. both affect the middle and bottom class the most, but yes. lets pay off the loans for college students who statistically make more money than all those groups. theyre the ones who deserve it clearly.

[@AroundTheBest]

Pay your debts.

[@Phucky0u]

The $200,000 debt anyone who wants a job paying a livable wage is forced to get? And then is literally impossible to pay off because of interest?

[@AroundTheBest]

@@Phucky0u Sue the school then. Requiring taxpayers to foot the bill is an absurdity.

[@Phucky0u]

@@AroundTheBest but paying the military $700B a year is fine

[@AroundTheBest]

@@Phucky0u That's a whataboutism, a red herring. Completely irrelevant.

[@yellowwarrior3025]

@@Phucky0uat least they do something

[@Arcticfox030]

I mean i see this as a win but not a win for some of the people that need it the most. Honestly are government still corrupt and wrong for not forcing this institutions to forgive the debt considering the fact that most businesses have needed to be bailed out by the government more then once in the last 20+ years

[@MrFuggleGuggle]

What WP and everyone fails to you tell you is that $39 billion - even if true - is just a drop in the bucket compared to the remaining student debt that will never, ever be forgiven. $1.77 trillion is the current balance of American combined student debt - federal and private. And if you don't believe my 'drop in the bucket' comment, divide $39 billion by $1.77 trillion, then multiply 100...that's how little of a percentage this 'forgiveness' is worth.

[@doc47448]

Long as there is no taxpayer money used. I skip college because I couldn't afford it. Be damned if I paying for someone else's.

[@joshuaoverlord5327]

Right we avoided college debt now we have to pay for someone else debt

[@DavisShawShawkNAwe]

Where do you think the government gets their money?

[@somedragonbastard]

If we had universal college and debt forgiveness you wouldn't have had to skip college. Also, shouldn't you want others to have a better life than you were able to have? Isn't that like, the goal of a society?

[@shanescott1124]

@@somedragonbastard I don't want to make this about sex but it really is about sex here cuz when most men look and see that they have to get a loan to finish college or go to college, they go trade school instead. So this is affecting significantly more women than men because significantly more men over the last 15 years of decided to skips college and do trade school instead because it was too expensive. But on the other hand, more and more women or are getting more and more expensive college degrees. Women own some 70% of America's debt

[@bumbleberryshortcake6099]

Tax money is no longer yours the second you get your check. If you think most of the tax money is being used in any good way you're in for a shocker.

[@DavisShawShawkNAwe]

Forgiving student loans is such BS

[@R2Holloway13]

So you're pro debt?

[@DavisShawShawkNAwe]

@@R2Holloway13 I'm pro making good decisions and taking responsibility for the consequences you've put yourself into.

[@anseljames5531]

​@a.r.huerta1545 No, he is just anti tax. You know those taxes are going to pit more family's in the dump then the people that it helps.

[@lachlanmc2335]

​@@R2Holloway13no im anti national debt

[@Xavier17.5]

just do it how they do in the UK. That's honestly one of the only great things we have here to be honest, the student loan debt, you only have to start paying it off once you're making enough money and it only makes up a very small portion of your expenses.

[@dummyemail8430]

because the UK is fairing so well right now

[@Xavier17.5]

@@dummyemail8430 neither is the US, and the student loan debt has barely anything to do with the UK's struggles. I mentioned in my comment about how it's one of the only great things we have here, I understand that the NHS, sugar tax, Brexit, etc is all shit. You're just being argumentative for the sake of it. I never mentioned about the UK being the greatest country ever like delusional Americans do about the United States, I just pointed out that the student loan debt system in the UK is good. And far better than how the US does it.

[@dummyemail8430]

@@Xavier17.5 how is it better than having people pay off their own debts they willing signed for?

[@Xavier17.5]

@@dummyemail8430 to get a good job, university is essential, and some people can have their parents pay for university, others can't, and making student debt less of a worry makes things more fair, it gives a more equal right to education, no matter a person's wealth.

[@twisted-eclipse3988]

Less Debt -> Less Profit for Schools -> Schools raise prices to accommodate -> Higher # in student loans -> higher number of forgiven debts -> Higher Tax Dependecy on all Non Student loan Holders. Did they really not think about the consequences?

[@madjack3409]

Student loans are not forgiven, they would be transferred and paid by people who didn't take out the loan.

[@dustinbragg1921]

Yeah god forbid the taxes you already pay go toward 40-80 actual people instead of bailing out another poor innocent congressman's 8 employee business to the tune of $800,000.00.

[@pastalover437]

The US government spends trillions annually. You can pretend all your tax dollars are spent on a couple tank shells, or NASA, or a congressman's paycheck. I'm going to pretend mine are paying off student debt.

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

@@dustinbragg1921 Neither should be bailed out

[@williamplumbridge4113]

By forgiving the debt what we really mean is passing it to people who were more money savvy. Brilliant! It’s telling that this idea came from a dementia patient

[@juliusdauksys2183]

Not how it works, but sure

[@williamplumbridge4113]

@@juliusdauksys2183 The State loans money to students from the taxpayers. If this money is payed back with interest the money is invested in public services, but if the debt is forgiven the money isn’t returned. Perhaps you don’t understand how it works, but I don’t blame you; a lot of democrats find economics hard 😊.

[@juliusdauksys2183]

@@williamplumbridge4113 yeah, except the interest rates are crazy high and the proposed answer was after paying it off for a very long time

[@potatogaming7044]

@@williamplumbridge4113 Could’ve gotten away with it, but then you went astray from a well written argument.

[@williamplumbridge4113]

@@juliusdauksys2183 it doesn’t matter, it’s still an enormous amount of money.

[@roba6216]

So pretty sure that was already in standard student loan forgiveness.

[@matthiasthealmighty2519]

How about we have people actually pay their student loan debt off

[@Lontonce_]

Americans realizing they actually have to pay back their loans:

[@kingace6186]

Educate yourself by learning about predatory loans.

[@I_Quarter_]

​@@kingace6186have you heard of not taking on loans you can't pay off? Reading the terms and conditions kg your loan? Or actually studying something that makes money? Yea all useful things that stop you from taking a loan that you can't pay back.

[@nunyabiz7699]

@@I_Quarter_ So Fun fact about this whole thing. The US Government was at first in charge of the loans. Then lent out operations to private companies after lobbying. THEN those companies years later were caught Lying, Forgeing, and majorly under representing to students things like repayment and even making up programs that did not exist. As well as purposefully misdirecting people to things that would make their situation worse not better. Heavily targeted were also military and Disabled people. And lower class people. This resulted in Millions of Americans having the Debt situation worsen to a large extent when it came to student loans. All in the name of more profit. They made billions off these practices. They were fined about 120 Million in total. Yet the debt was still kept. So the US goverment Screwed up thanks to Listening to Lobbying. Shocker. And still says people need to foot the bill. yet we still forgive massive loans to corperations. Banks and other Large entites even when they do not meet the requirements. Complaining about this with the pay back what you owe. is turning a blind eye to the FAR LARGER issues of our country. Its very selective.

[@RoyalGuardEziode]

​​@@I_Quarter_hen literally no one would be in college. No 18 year old knows theyre going to be able to pay something back or not and for them to wait to save what they could pay back, they're not going to care for college anymore because they'll want to keep the money. And geez I wonder what happens when no one goes to college

[@Lontonce_]

@@kingace6186 educate yourself on taking loans you can afford

[@masquerade179]

Why do so many people say higher education is a mistake? When so many people are in debt, we all suffer because the economy suffers. Having more disposable income allows for consumers to buy more things and invest it back into our economy.

[@diffsnicker]

Why do so many people think you can't make a decent living without a college education?

[@roachymart2318]

This is also why we shouldn't give a shit about what billionaires think because they just hoard money. Money sitting in an offshore bank account accruing interest doesn't help the economy either. They only hoard, they rarely keep that money in circulation.

[@imzjustplayin]

@@roachymart2318 I'm assuming you're 'college educated' because if you weren't, it would be understandable why your statement is completely ignorant.

[@lachlanmc2335]

​@@roachymart2318actuslynmost of their money is tied up in stocks and investments ehich do help the economy by increasing valuation

[@grillygrilly]

@@diffsnicker Not everyone wants to be a plumber or a truck driver, my G.

[@flyingturret208thecannon5]

Government is the best racketeer, and it also excels at convincing you it's not a racket.

[@RustyShackleford051]

Its astouding that after 20 years these high value degrees hadnt been paid off by the highest earners in the country.

[@albaracheetah9083]

Here we go again, get ready for another wave of inflation

[@I_Quarter_]

Don't tell them, they think money is free. Telling them things aren't actually "free" breaks their minds

[@shevthegreb757]

This literally does nothing with inflation. This is already accumulated money from taxes. It is just like paying for healthcare and such.

[@I_Quarter_]

@shevthegreb757 if the government has so much money accumulated, then why are they 32 trillion dollars in debt?

[@Wcduc]

@@I_Quarter_ Military spending to fund wars we do not need..

[@I_Quarter_]

@Wcduc then let's address that issue, instead of spending more money on things we don't need and are just a waste of taxpayer money. And if you want less spending on military how about vote for the only president in a few decades that didn't start a new war and wants the war in Ukraine to end?