Can I Fix a City of 257,547 Citizens in Cities Skylines 2 or is it a Disaster?

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@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
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@lordzizo375
@lordzizo375 6 ай бұрын
Gratulation Biffa you have your old Job Back. I believe its going to be FUNNNN again.
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 6 ай бұрын
this city is doomed, there's no saviour for this.
@RJK-cb9tu
@RJK-cb9tu 6 ай бұрын
Let’s hope they fix the speed of the game, I can’t even run my city because I don’t have a good enough pc but I brought the game😅 I love it biffa keep it up!
@jl61995
@jl61995 6 ай бұрын
Hey Biffa, there’s an underused game mechanic I’d *LOVE* to see you explore in future videos. There is a professor at UCLA, Donald Shoup, who’s famous for his research around making people pay for on- and off-street parking and it’s affects on traffic, transit use, and parking demands. There are a ton of videos of him talking about it on KZbin. Basically, I’d love to see you experiment with removing parking or making it super expensive to see how it would affect traffic in CS2. Maybe even a district with cheap/ubiquitous parking and how it compares to a district with expensive/limited parking. I’m fascinated to see how much the game mimics real life. I love the content and can’t wait for more CS2 traffic fixes, especially when the game is more optimized!
@johanschurink7744
@johanschurink7744 6 ай бұрын
Discount is exactly the same if you go to that site itself, missed change... I will wait anyway 5 month's before i buy this game...
@timjensen4320
@timjensen4320 6 ай бұрын
The traffic AI is pretty realistic. If I was driving on a road and suddenly a new lane appears instantly out of no where, I'd probably panic and change lanes too!
@brandoninacio6240
@brandoninacio6240 6 ай бұрын
@@thephantomchannel5368it’s a joke not a Jimmy don’t take it so hard
@iSirLincoln
@iSirLincoln 6 ай бұрын
@@thephantomchannel5368 I'm with you. we need a mod that prevents you from deleting roads after placing them. You have to have a bidding war with contractors to see who will take the job then the road is just closed for half the year.
@chuckc1650
@chuckc1650 6 ай бұрын
30:54 I think a big problem you missed is the service trade is totally overcooked. Less than half the power is actually getting exported and exporting water rarely makes more than the upkeep. This chews up jobs and budget. Bulldozing that excess would have helped a lot I think. Love the vids keep them coming.
@epicsnake21
@epicsnake21 6 ай бұрын
He tries not to remove too much stuff the person has put down
@Twiphed
@Twiphed 5 ай бұрын
And the water and electricity tax was also very low so they were using more of those resources while also getting less money for that
@Echokeres
@Echokeres 7 сағат бұрын
I think all the buildings for those trades are also taking up a lot of the cpu. Idk really. Maybe.
@amaresch66
@amaresch66 6 ай бұрын
Yeah! I love the city fixes. Not only is this what made me a subscriber; It is what introduced me to and led me to try City Skylines many years ago. Doesn't seem that long ago. Thanks Biffa!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! 👍
@joshinnc9882
@joshinnc9882 6 ай бұрын
The thing about the traffic between those two roundabouts that stood out the most to me is that road through needed to be a highway. It was connecting to two major highways, but all the traffic was forced through town. I would have tried building a raised highway over the streets, and creating proper city connections.
@LunaticTheNick
@LunaticTheNick 6 ай бұрын
Just my thought 😊
@marchernandez4596
@marchernandez4596 6 ай бұрын
Also most of the traffic off the bridge wanted to go right, It would have helped creating a more straight route from origin to end a part from the bridge
@lemonadelemon1960
@lemonadelemon1960 5 ай бұрын
Me too. And I wouldn't have made more lanes. Making roads bigger just means you don't know what "road mathematics" is. And biffa definitely knows what it is.maybe all the old rules are out the window.
@joshinnc9882
@joshinnc9882 5 ай бұрын
@@lemonadelemon1960 Yea i think he just overlooked what most of the traffic was trying to do.
@griffin8er845
@griffin8er845 4 ай бұрын
They don’t even need to do that, they just needed to pay attention to road hierarchy and the direction certain traffic wanted to go. There were too many instances of industrial traffic having to take ridiculous routes through neighborhoods because road hierarchy was not a thing. In addition, the lack of proper public transport made it so that there was way too much road competition for industrial trucks that actually need the road.
@x2w509
@x2w509 6 ай бұрын
That city looks like an absolute nightmare, I'd just start again 😂
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
Eek!
@leftcoastfunk
@leftcoastfunk 6 ай бұрын
yeah tbh I was gonna tell Biffa not to feel bad for giving up on this one. It's clear that the problems with that city are deep-rooted, likely having a lot to do with being very unbalanced from the start, and most of the RCI areas being completely and significantly separated from each other
@18robsmith
@18robsmith 6 ай бұрын
I agree. It's a shame that tornado failed to get going.
@ravenbathory9471
@ravenbathory9471 6 ай бұрын
Tbh it reminds me of SimCity style grids, just slap down a massive grid of whatever is in demand, wherever there's space 😂
@Ghettopixel
@Ghettopixel 6 ай бұрын
It is a nightmare but also very glad Biffa took it on its how we learn new tricks and kudos for the builder for sending it in rather than binning it
@idno4856
@idno4856 6 ай бұрын
Biffa I have to applaud your patience with this one. On top of the performance issues with the game, it's a city from someone who tried to cheese their build instead of learning how to build properly. You had to redo so much.
@MsH4h4
@MsH4h4 6 ай бұрын
Many of the "visual" clutter problems you encountered in this video are a massive issue for me as well. Its so hard to see stuff even with the correct overlay selected. For some it seems to be an overlay problem but for some its definitely a thing of the wrong contrast selected by CO. E.g. Subway view, the tunnels should be pitch black and the rest of the map greyed out so I see what Im doing there.
@matthewthompson555
@matthewthompson555 6 ай бұрын
I seriously hate almost every overview. Every time I zone I close the pop up window in the top left to remove the insane color scheme. I'm enjoying SC2 but darn, the color scheme decisions are a bit painful.
@duskeyowl2507
@duskeyowl2507 6 ай бұрын
It is ridiculous that they could not display the residential colours better. You zone and they are all the same colour. It makes it impossible to keep track of areas. Simple things like this make the game so frustrating.
@slavplaysgames
@slavplaysgames 6 ай бұрын
It's so baaaaaaaaad actually and traffic ai is wtf ... alot of criminal drivers breaking my rules constantly
@Six_Gorillion
@Six_Gorillion 5 ай бұрын
@@duskeyowl2507 pisses me off also they don't even write in the popup what type of zone you clicked on iif t is ie mid dencity or high or whatever. You're supposed to memorize all those tiny icons that looks the same from some distance.
@DeanShirley818
@DeanShirley818 6 ай бұрын
Biggest issue with this city was too many lanes. Most of those 6 & 8 lane roads could be downgraded and a true road hierarchy established. Having 8 lane roads feeding in and out of every roundabout is a recipe for disaster. Not to mentoin that mega tram route with 51 stops was stopping every block. Trams should be at least every 3 or 4 blocks.
@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff
@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff 4 ай бұрын
Ahhh just like in real life.
@markstravels
@markstravels 6 ай бұрын
I loved this city fix, because you didn't fix it. I spent an hour trying to fix my metro, because it was too hard to see the line colors. There are other build items where the color choice makes it more difficult than it should be. The yellow circle on the ag land which is also yellow, for example. I see the potential for CS2, but it is tempting to go back to cs1 for a while to get a rest from the frustration.
@michaels.3709
@michaels.3709 6 ай бұрын
I'm actually holding off buying CS2 until a few more tools are available (like traffic manager) along with some UI and optimization improvements from CO. I know myself enough that having less control in CS2 than CS1 is going to frustrate me to no end and I don't want to color my first playthrough with that sort of negativity. I also play on a gaming laptop, so I imagine my performance right now won't be so great. I can already see that CS2 is going to be a better sim than CS1 could ever be. It's just that CS1 has had so much more development done on it (both by CO and the modders) that CS2 still feels a bit empty in comparison.
@71tofu
@71tofu 3 ай бұрын
@@michaels.3709 Until they grant us the ability to completely turn off "reckless sims" this game will remain gutter trash to me. I build a road that works a certain way and says "THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE ONLY" yet everyone uses it anyways. It doesn't even go anywhere, just to the one central bus station in my town of 8k people. No, this game needs real consequences or the option to turn them off at no consequence to the player. "Reckless sims" should be getting jail time, like IRL.
@georgedodd7117
@georgedodd7117 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes less is more with lanes, 6 lane roads everywhere will just make traffic really bad. You want to slowly step down the size of your roads as you come off the highway at each intersection and use asymetrical roads to keep traffic flowing!
@BeachLookingGuy
@BeachLookingGuy 6 ай бұрын
well this game has no traffic manager so you're really limited with options
@TerkyDoc
@TerkyDoc 6 ай бұрын
Is there a specific benefit to asymmetrical?
@georgedodd7117
@georgedodd7117 6 ай бұрын
@@TerkyDocUsually the benefit is dedicated turning lanes for each direction (depending on how the road is setup) or higher capacity if one direction has more traffic
@afrahbabli9438
@afrahbabli9438 6 ай бұрын
From the first minute I see that Biffa is going to suffer a lot …
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
Lol I do 🤣
@ggoose11224
@ggoose11224 6 ай бұрын
@@thephantomchannel5368 bro its not that serious
@Khotetsu
@Khotetsu 6 ай бұрын
@@thephantomchannel5368 It's hard to tell because text lacks context, but I could probably pay my rent with gamer rage if I had a nickel for every time I've seen somebody actually say something like that and mean it. 😆
@McExpugnare
@McExpugnare 6 ай бұрын
(16:40) for the transportation overview menu there is a button in the lower right corner right next to the city economy button, highligthed in blue when the overview is open
@michaelochoa3628
@michaelochoa3628 6 ай бұрын
or press x
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 6 ай бұрын
16:51 You don't have to click all those buttons to get to transport view. Bottom right there's a subway map button and it opens that line view instantly
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 6 ай бұрын
Regardless, I hate the transportation views and how hard they are to read and will either try to find a way to mod them or get someone more knowledgeable to maybe change the UI to not cover half of the screen, etc
@joels310
@joels310 6 ай бұрын
I think the major issue with the traffic is the absolutely insane number of intersections right next to each other...
@BeachLookingGuy
@BeachLookingGuy 6 ай бұрын
oh you mean the 3 lane roundabout 15 meters away from another 3 lane roundabout isnt working well????
@FreakyFerret
@FreakyFerret 6 ай бұрын
Hey Biffa. :) Love your channel. Love the game. It was a valiant try. If I may be so presumptuous, I have some advice if you try again. 1) Get rid of trams including the stops. Stops with no connecting line still take processing power. 2) Build out / define the arterials. 3) Once those are defined, set 1 tram route for a north/south and 1 for an east/west. Space out the stops for every 3 blocks or more. 4) Setup bus routes to run within districts / neighborhoods only. The buses should help people get around their area and to other modes of transportation. 5) Get rid of the subway. Build stops in each section of the map, such as quarters or eighths. Draw line to nearest neighboring stops. So you wind up with a loop or a one-side spoke wheel (with 1 or 2 places in the middle of map being full spoke wheel). Use these to get people to different areas of the map.
@ulruc
@ulruc 6 ай бұрын
It means we should fix our cities at a smaller size. If we wait for them to be a quarter of a million to fix them, it is better to start over. Fix it once in a while, especially for traffic and public transport. The rest will fall in place more easily once these two are in place. But the number of taxis from the outside is just nuts...
@Megacities1978
@Megacities1978 6 ай бұрын
it's bugged, like almost everything else, they are spam banning people on the forum to hide things.
@WildcatRene
@WildcatRene 6 ай бұрын
I wonder how many people are waiting for a proper traffic manager mod
@melodiousapollo7307
@melodiousapollo7307 Ай бұрын
Definitely myself.
@tigonologdring9189
@tigonologdring9189 6 ай бұрын
On the positive side of things: at least you now have a benchmark city to test against...
@mrtbts
@mrtbts 6 ай бұрын
looks like the problem is they segregated the residential and commercial so they have a lot of traffic using cars going between areas (cus apparently their trams goes only inside the area)
@inyobill
@inyobill 6 ай бұрын
I miss Hugo there, precision engineering. A stop on every block on the tram is total over-kill.
@ravenbathory9471
@ravenbathory9471 6 ай бұрын
The first twenty or so mins of this should have been fixed with the highway being linked up as an overpass as most of the traffic was just passing through. That being mentioned. This city is fundamentally flawed from the start 😅
@2JiP8
@2JiP8 6 ай бұрын
The more videos I watch of CS2, the happier I am for not playing it from the beginning. I’ll jump into it in some months, once the gaming experience is better.
@_Professor_Oak
@_Professor_Oak 6 ай бұрын
13:00 "let's speed the game up a bit" - CPU says no 🤣🤣
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@leftcoastfunk
@leftcoastfunk 6 ай бұрын
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines CPU wanted to give up long before you did tho :)
@benberbert2246
@benberbert2246 6 ай бұрын
oof, that giant multi-lane one way industrial loop really needs to have a road or three connect between the two to cut down on how much traffic has to loop all the way around.
@EternalGamingNet
@EternalGamingNet 6 ай бұрын
Despite the struggle this was still a fun video.
@Dee_snuts_
@Dee_snuts_ 6 ай бұрын
One of the bigger problems is everything is so far away from one another, i truly get the concept of the city in this video and i do think it's beautiful but sometimes cities just have to be built more towards a efficient output than a visiually magnificent city.
@vincentking2552
@vincentking2552 6 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this! 💜 Love city fixing!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
Enjoy :-)
@vincentking2552
@vincentking2552 6 ай бұрын
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines just finished watching, I think you did admirable well. Better than I ever could!
@lordraven2264
@lordraven2264 6 ай бұрын
CS2 has done a much better job at forcing players to build a functioning city, as opposed to just making it look good. I love that. You could build a massive city very quickly in CS1, even without mods. You have to be a lot more patient now and allow the city to grow at a reasonable pace or everything gets out of control. Great video.
@unything2696
@unything2696 6 ай бұрын
Exactly this. There is a natural game flow leading you towards a somewhat realistic city. Thats really pleasing! To be honest, after like 120k people my city turned more and more unrealistic, because in a good city there is almost infinite demand for every zoning type.
@BeachLookingGuy
@BeachLookingGuy 6 ай бұрын
im sorry but wut are you talking about? CSL1 without mods does not do that at all. without mods there no "making it look good". building quickly in CS1 results in too many sims moving in at once causing traffic. then it creates death waves which cause more issues. yall can try to justify this over priced Beta build but that wont change the facts.
@lordraven2264
@lordraven2264 6 ай бұрын
@@BeachLookingGuy That's not the experience I have in CS1. There are a ton of videos of players making very good looking cities in vanilla, no mods. I don't have the death wave issue. I never said to build a city while on pause.
@jimkats1
@jimkats1 6 ай бұрын
Being slow even at 8x speed, especially with a beast computer, sounds similar to a CS1 map bloated with mods and custom assets :D
@nickbellomo3362
@nickbellomo3362 6 ай бұрын
It looks like with this game the devs only learned half of the traffic manager mod. Can't wait for the shop to open and the community gets hold of the game.
@michaziomek2542
@michaziomek2542 6 ай бұрын
16:40 You can press "X" key or the icon in the lower left corner with colored lines on a plane (between money and statistics icon) to open transportation overview, no need to go into infoviews etc also, buttons Z, C, V also serve as shortcuts to other overviews
@MisterMotel
@MisterMotel 6 ай бұрын
sometimes I wonder who build cities like this. Have they never been into an actual city before?
@thegheymerz6353
@thegheymerz6353 6 ай бұрын
Its like a machine did it.
@ssnargent
@ssnargent 6 ай бұрын
Cut them some slack lmao
@kilastrika
@kilastrika 6 ай бұрын
Then get annoyed that 250000 cims are being computed for there absolutely whacking lifestyles they have to live.
@shannonparkhill5557
@shannonparkhill5557 6 ай бұрын
the problem is that its super car dependant. They need a massive interconnected system of transit that is actually planned to get people from anywhere to anywhere
@clipthat2705
@clipthat2705 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Biffa for being our tester for the Beta version of CS 2. But seriously, it was one of my most hyped games of the year and seeing it in this catastrophic state makes me happy that i didn't preorder, but at the same time very sad, because my hopes on this game to deliver like the first one were so high. So remember guys -> NO PREORDER!
@carriegarrisonvos4433
@carriegarrisonvos4433 6 ай бұрын
Well I didn't think I'd ever see you give up, but I surely can understand why! I was having a horrible time seeing the subway same as you. I was so close to the screen trying to see what you were barely seeing!! I was laughing though because you stayed with it longer than I would have!! CS2 still needs some work with big cities! Great job that you stopped it from losing so much money and that you solved quite a few traffic issues 🥰 Got my giggle time in too 😁
@scrub8674
@scrub8674 6 ай бұрын
the guy tried to make ONE city for the whole map lol squeeze in all the residential in this corner then all the industrial waaaay over that other corner
@tumi6ocdn
@tumi6ocdn 6 ай бұрын
He Biffa, glad to see the tradition continuing! Two things I've noticed so far (will correct as I'm halfway through) - 1. the tram lines you deleted weren't active because there weren't enough vehicles available for them to run and 2. I don't recall you checking if the city hall is unlocked and built, as this seems to have an effect on import costs of goods.
@sharpless
@sharpless 6 ай бұрын
I see a lot of problem with total lack of road hierarchy, zoning on what is major arterials and such
@scheballs7
@scheballs7 6 ай бұрын
Might have to limit traffic fixes to 100k pop. This makes me want to start my third city and just cover the map with only low density. Then... add medium density with a handful of high density. Im curious how the game will handle that. Love the videos Keep em coming!
@alkaliwreck2474
@alkaliwreck2474 6 ай бұрын
Yes, it seems 200k+ cites start to just fall apart. If it's not the sim speed (or maybe because of it) then certain services or conditions stop functioning properly.
@xolotlnephthys
@xolotlnephthys 6 ай бұрын
I like the idea for city fixes for cs2, because at the moment you're limited to the same tactics as the rest of us, with no mods!
@TangerineUnicornDesign
@TangerineUnicornDesign 6 ай бұрын
My biggest takeaway from all the CS2 videos is that this game was released as a half-baked disaster with amazing road tools and little else. And it's so monochromatic and dull. Every city basically looks the same, this game needs the workshop (or whatever half-assed version the paradox mods thing is going to be) and some crucial mods to be able to be playable.
@badkermit180
@badkermit180 6 ай бұрын
Connecting subways has been the most frustrating part of this game for me. God forbid the elevation changes and you need to redo any lines.
@rmurrow0220
@rmurrow0220 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Biffa. I recently stumbled on to your channel and love it. I have used several of the things you mentioned in your video. I had no idea, for example, that starting a road two lanes in would change the off or on ramp connection. I thoroughly enjoy your videos, keep them coming.
@michaels.3709
@michaels.3709 6 ай бұрын
Love to see the city fixes for CS2, but I feel like we need another few optimization patch cycles before the game is ready for such a Megalopolopolis. You can also feel the lack of Hugo There in this city fix. It'll be so nice when we get Traffic Manager for CS2! That and maybe some roundabout tools to help improve throughput. Entertaining, as always, Biffa!
@TheMadSqu
@TheMadSqu 6 ай бұрын
While I certainly understand that you stick with CS 2 as your views have increased a lot, I really wished you would get back to New Tealand or Hugoslavia and let CO finish developing this game.
@ChasePhillips7
@ChasePhillips7 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your effort Biffa! I can't imagine it was fun to decide to give up on the city, but I appreciate that you tried it anyways! Hopefully CS2 gets much better optimizations as soon as possible!
@JonathanHarvell
@JonathanHarvell 6 ай бұрын
I have noticed on Highways, that any kink in the road at ALL they will slow way down. So that kinky highway could be a bottleneck.
@Mr1234karlos
@Mr1234karlos 6 ай бұрын
Glad your Back doing City Fixes... I think you May need to Use your Little Trick and use that Remove Skin Render from Characters.. will diffo help you on those big City's. my large city has also Ground to a Halt,, But as soon as i Remove the Skin From Characters the Simulation RUNS Again. Like Nicely.. You can literally turn it OFF/ON and watch the Sim Stop and Start at the same time... so I think the times your waiting at home for the Sim to Run, Removing that render will certainly Save you a lot of Time Biffa.. Love ya stuff xx 🙂
@gamefanique
@gamefanique 6 ай бұрын
Great job Biffa, you did the best you could. The main problem with the game right now is the inability to control traffic flow. We should be able to set up dedicated right and left turn lanes and have more control over the traffic lights and stop signs.
@Meeesa
@Meeesa 6 ай бұрын
You can make dedicated turn lanes... It's in the road progression tool. Idk if it's as easy as Traffic Manager, but it is available in some capacity of CS2.
@larkendelvie
@larkendelvie 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Biffa - maybe you could follow up this video with a quick summary of best practices? Such as never completely fill industry and commercial demands? Always keep population near pockets of commercial and industry. I wonder if part of what was happening involved lack of cargo train stations (they do have warehouses attached to them)? I do agree that a lot of the transportation routing stuff has horrible UI. Of course the other huge thing is starting cities with a coherent road hierarchy, I don't know that I saw where all the outside connections were but would it have been helpful to add more outside connections? Again thanks Biffa for the heroic effort and I hope your machine has recovered!
@anders95
@anders95 6 ай бұрын
This was exhausting to watch lol. Great effort Biffa, but I feel like both the city and the game is working against you here. Let's hope it'll improve🙄
@mandemusceasar981
@mandemusceasar981 6 ай бұрын
Epic, well done for sticking it out as long as you did, look forward to some more even if the cities are a bit smaller!
@S1lva139
@S1lva139 6 ай бұрын
it's good to see this series back looking forward to watching them as they come out
@keithrange4457
@keithrange4457 6 ай бұрын
You are so informative and entertaining Biffa. I love the vid and keep up the great work! Thanks for all you do for the skylines community.
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 6 ай бұрын
Maybe deleting a lot of power plants would balance out the job situation. I think this is the main problem. maybe establish a city centre and get some high-rise apartments. and single home residential areas dotted around the city where all the industry is. this theoretically could revive things so you can start working on resources.
@konrad1428
@konrad1428 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact about irl wind direction: in most bigger European cities the wealthier districts are in the western part of cities. Wind mostly blows towards the east so that's where the factories were built while the owners built their villas in the west.
@Alvin_ketchup
@Alvin_ketchup 6 ай бұрын
THANKS, I WANT TO SEE MORE OF THESE TYPES OF VIDEOS. I WAS WAITING FOR FIXING CITIES. IN CITIES SKYLINE 2!
@LorBell
@LorBell 6 ай бұрын
tornados spawning on sunny, blue-sky days makes me laugh, but I don't suppose that's the MOST unrealistic aspect of this game, eh?
@LawOfEvolution
@LawOfEvolution 6 ай бұрын
Used your link to buy Skylines 2 and I'm LOVING IT so far! I'm on a i7-9700k with Nvidia 2060 Super and 32GB or Ram.. I get 60 frames sittings still, but moving around and high traffic areas it drops to around 15 fps. Can't wait for more optimization because I want a 1 Million population city eventually! Cheers Biffa thanks for the game at a discount!
@NoDecaf7
@NoDecaf7 6 ай бұрын
This is a fantastically helpful video. I have yet to get a city to this size, I don't have as much time to play as I'd like, but it's interesting to get a look at what a big city goes through. I'm a little puzzled by the way this person built their city, but have a feeling that in a few months time they won't be dropping huge areas of zoning 😂
@DimaRakesah
@DimaRakesah Ай бұрын
I have found that trams going through a busy intersection have a tendency to jam them completely now and then. I've started just removing them and giving them separate routes from roads wherever possible cause they just cause too many traffic problems.
@Hubris030
@Hubris030 6 ай бұрын
Confirmation that the game becomes unplayable when your pop gets that high. Tmpe wont solve the incredibly slow simulation speed
@MIO9_sh
@MIO9_sh 5 ай бұрын
Everytime there's traffic problem that involves a heck load of private cars, your solution is never moving zones or widening roads, but to make proper public transportations. Basically, there's anything mid density or above, slap a metro station, bam, traffic cut down by 90%
@Seb512
@Seb512 6 ай бұрын
Great video, though the massive bottlekneck of roundabouts between the highway interchange and bridge just needs demolishing and replacing with a grade-separated junction to separate the through traffic causing problems. SInce there isn't a lot of housing in that area it shouldn't be too hard to do
@beth7808
@beth7808 6 ай бұрын
There apparently is a way to connect metro stops with an underground path. I don't have the game, but I have seen chatter about it.
@PaulFoye
@PaulFoye 6 ай бұрын
Cities skies 2 has definitely become more complex, and I guess we all expect when we adjust policies and zoning etc to rectify issues, other problems show up, but isn’t most cities like that in real life. We were spoiled with CS1 lol. As for performance, gossip has it, the problems run deep into the game, it won’t be any time soon for a patch big enough to sort out the rendering speeds.. the game has so much detailing. Guess we will just have to stick to smaller cities till things improve.. I learn so much from watching Biffas channel! Tips and tricks 👍👏👏👏
@stren000
@stren000 6 ай бұрын
They should add Real estate agency building, that would prevent buildings from being abandoned, that would probably be more realistic
@BuckMasterNorm
@BuckMasterNorm 6 ай бұрын
Thanks that was a good one. I'm a new player you make it look easy . You lost me before your 1st cup of tea. But I will watch this one 10 or 15 time . I'm have a lot the learn you make it look like fun. Keep up the good work.
@griffin8er845
@griffin8er845 4 ай бұрын
I think the biggest issues are probably the separation of zones (more dispersal of commercial and industry to make everything local), as well as a general lack of public transport. Public transport is obviously available in the city but the way it’s used needs work and I don’t think it’s the main form of transport in the city. Generally try to get mostly industrial traffic since they need trucks and keep residential traffic to a minimum with more public transport.
@panpan6222
@panpan6222 6 ай бұрын
Been loving this game, I love the fix your city videos, but it always makes me realize how much I don't know how to do xD
@Punz18
@Punz18 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait for you to return to this city in a few years when you have more CS2 fix experience.
@CoachMikeYT
@CoachMikeYT 6 ай бұрын
The way it slows to a crawl at moderately large populations is completely unacceptable. They've got to figure it out. I'm forced to abandon my cities around 100k after slowly dropping the settings starting around 40k
@BeachLookingGuy
@BeachLookingGuy 6 ай бұрын
the game is done for. there is no coming back from this. what's going to happen with DLC, Mods and assets?????
@Italomiks
@Italomiks 6 ай бұрын
16:40 YES! getting to the lines you have is very user unfriendly! I hope they change this soon. It was fine in CS 1...!
@sekkachigaming
@sekkachigaming 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the public transport management panel - it's so annoying, can't see anything. Previous game had it much better and with mods it was a dream, really
@senffabrik4903
@senffabrik4903 6 ай бұрын
Biffa it hurts, you dont have to wait for the demand. Give em Medium dense, give them high dense, they will use it. I promise
@andrewhoughton8606
@andrewhoughton8606 6 ай бұрын
U need to add a 150,000 people for jobs
@arvinbelarmino642
@arvinbelarmino642 6 ай бұрын
I love this fix your city series. Keep it up.
@matthewting3783
@matthewting3783 6 ай бұрын
I'm a follower 2 years plus but watch all videos from a year and a half ago. Always love the content!!!. Sky cities 2!! So city fixes 2!!. As with all your content i appreciate you have your own style. Also you learn and improve with the quirks of the game. Come style , efficency or problem solving. This video is you 1st fix on cities 2. So if you ever gonna read a message from me probably on this video. Haha. Without being to nitpicky I wanted to leave some feed back. I think it would of been cooler if you tried your tried and tested vanilla fixes against the road problems. I saw you ignore your regular fixes of not road next to roundabouts. Or big junctions you don't want roads to close as to much the traffic elsewhere. I saw 4 roundabouts in a row on 1 Street. @42.30 you flipped the road so it looked emptier? The also re added the slips and returned the junction after switching to a roundabout?? Also you licoed of a roadside of factories.. Tbh I only saw the time cos I was typing this message. It's a new game.so.i think stop trying to know all the nuances ATM. Oh yh just remembered something like 10% on transport/ trams you should have been confident made better intersecting transport going to commercial or industrial or transport links. Love your content !!!!!!! Don't be to shy better to do bigger fixes anyways you could fix your mistake if it gets to that point
@Usuario-wr2kw
@Usuario-wr2kw 6 ай бұрын
Basically just added ONE MORE LANE BRO
@LaunchPad_SDG
@LaunchPad_SDG 6 ай бұрын
you can use shortcut keys Z,X,C,V,B to access some of the menus, X- is the transportation menu, C is the city, and the others I forget what else exactly
@AoEGamingYT
@AoEGamingYT 6 ай бұрын
I did a deep dive into the electricity options and broke down the math. should put the video out in the next few days. there are absolutely power plants that can make money, assuming you have the labor to man it. I forgot about the incinerator plant though so i need to do the math on that building to see if its profitable but seeing him use it tells me it probably is, but you have to have the trash to burn. :)
@liquidificadoroficial3975
@liquidificadoroficial3975 6 ай бұрын
The incinerator plant is making almost no energy anymore because of the garbage update, so it won't be profitable
@AoEGamingYT
@AoEGamingYT 6 ай бұрын
Then when I test it tonight should yield no or little income. thanks for that tid bit.@@liquidificadoroficial3975
@BTTNZ_
@BTTNZ_ 5 ай бұрын
this city fix video single handedly helped me curb problems in my current build before they got out of hand! boosted me from 45k to 70k population in a few hours! Thank you Biffa, please keep these coming!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 5 ай бұрын
Glad I could help 👍😁
@jeramiahcoffey103
@jeramiahcoffey103 6 ай бұрын
Hey Biffa! Great video, I love the city fixing ones. Its what got me into your channel when I got back into CS. Would you mind sharing which CPU you're running? This video definitely shows that the CPU is still indeed a bottleneck, especially at higher pops.
@publicacct5626
@publicacct5626 6 ай бұрын
Is 250k really considered a "higher pop"?
@KyrreEleison
@KyrreEleison 2 ай бұрын
You did a wonderful job anyway :) Interesting concept with these city fixes. Subscribed!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 2 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome 👍
@kristinpagan2361
@kristinpagan2361 6 ай бұрын
Oh my...I swear I could hear the city, and your computer, groaning Biffa. Not enough tools (mods) at the moment to help resolve issues outside of literally leveling and heavily modifing the roads/sections.
@randallcromer66
@randallcromer66 6 ай бұрын
Super Baffa to the rescue...You're an amazing city builder and fixer...💯👍
@monkeybarmonkeyman
@monkeybarmonkeyman 6 ай бұрын
Biffa, did you encounter these performance issues during your alpha/beta testing for CS2? It must be maddening - I do know it is one reason I have no desire to purchase this game right now... I still have CS1 with mods. 🙂
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 6 ай бұрын
No, I never got to a city this size, plus we were told its beta so we assumed that as normal for a beta, performance would be worked on before release...
@Warriorbox
@Warriorbox 6 ай бұрын
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines This really scares me, as my CPU is below recommended. I can run the game in a small city (2k population) but if YOU are having trouble with your specs, what chance do I have? Roll on the performance fixes which I am sure will happen. But will I have to bite the bullet and upgrade to a new PC? Time will tell.
@monkeybarmonkeyman
@monkeybarmonkeyman 6 ай бұрын
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Very good. I would hope they follow through on their pre-release promises. 🙂
@epicsnake21
@epicsnake21 6 ай бұрын
16:06 Before you delete a line you have to think about this; They added a rush hour mechanic to CS2 but there isn't actually a way to see the average ridership for an individual transit line. It is always hard to tell how much ridership there actually is on a line except for the total monthly passengers on that mode of transit. I've found the best way is to wait for rush hour to see how many people are using the line but even that can be annoying and time-consuming.
@hazir7618
@hazir7618 6 ай бұрын
my cup of tea has been brewing for years waiting for this one
@GeoThaDude
@GeoThaDude 5 ай бұрын
Instead of increasing the number of lanes at that very strange roundabout on a highway, I would've rebuilt that entire interchange. Elevate the highway and build a actual on/off ramps that lead to roundabouts. Who turns a highway into a local road and then back into a highway in a matter of 3 blocks, and then sticks roundabouts in it?
@douglashunt487
@douglashunt487 6 ай бұрын
If you terraform a river a little bit, you can get the hydroelectric dam producing over 400Mw most of the time. I got 2 producing over 700Mw each. They make $2.5 million profit, and the upkeep is only $200K.
@naytdawg21
@naytdawg21 4 ай бұрын
Need more of these traffic fix videos!
@squeeb5012
@squeeb5012 6 ай бұрын
I’ve had a similar problem. I think part of the issue is that CS2 will put commercial, office and industry on full demand even when there are not enough workers. It didn’t help that I had the office bug thanos snap half of my jobs at one point only for them to come back 😂.
@aboriani
@aboriani 6 ай бұрын
Biffa, you need to look at the time of the day before evaluating if a particular line is being used or not... some lines goes to 0% during night and to 40-50% at rush hours. Obviously they need to be connecting residential and jobs...
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 6 ай бұрын
The other factor is that many of those lines had 0 vehicles on them, probably because the depot was overloaded.
@micbln8967
@micbln8967 6 ай бұрын
What, did you expect this guy knows what he is doing? This is the "this game is perfect beside some few performance issues" guy.
@benben1707
@benben1707 16 күн бұрын
6:34 instead of upgrading the road from 4 lanes to 6 lanes you could have upgraded the road to the 4 lane with median and separated the tram tracks so they don't get stuck in the car traffic
@nefstead
@nefstead 6 ай бұрын
You were checking tramline usage at around midnight in-game. I believe, although I'm not 100% sure, that the usage percentages are actual current usage, meaning that they're not very helpful at night except to tell which lines should be daytime only. I don't think you can assume that a 0% usage line in the middle of the night is actually not being used.
@Krasstaman
@Krasstaman 6 ай бұрын
liked it alot, thanks! hope your suggesstions get heard!
@abfruits
@abfruits 6 ай бұрын
justified. For what it's worth, I think you had the right idea on fixing it initially - dezoning. When you pulled up the unemployment and there were 155k adults and 295k jobs - man losing tons of generic industry, those extra train yards, etc, would probably help a ton... but at that point, you're redoing the city for someone else.
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