Big Announcement! Boeing Starliner's New Return Date, Astronauts Back on Dragon?

[@purplehayes5718]

You said NASA finally made a decision and then the video said they have not decided. Why cant you people be honest about anything. I'm through with this site. Now I block you.

[@stephenhull6900]

Me too

[@ClassicTractorsandMore]

I read this comment and decided not to waste the time on it.

[@alphatech4966]

return date

[@alphatech4966]

Did you watch the video carefully? Your comment just shows that you didn't watch the video carefully before commenting.

[@alphatech4966]

@@ClassicTractorsandMore Are you just listening to what others say? Check it out for yourself! It's better than letting others manipulate you.

[@JLange642]

NASA to the 2 astronauts: "We have good news and bad news- the good news is that Starliner is heading home!" Astronauts: "....and the bad news?" NASA: "You two will be onboard!"

[@ThomasJoseph315]

They can't as they are past the viability date with helium leaks.

[@mightyoaks77]

😂😂😂 ok, give me the bad news first eeerm, you'll be on board Ok what's the good news? There will be a lovely little firework display not long after your re-entry if your familys aren't busy.....

[@mikeedwards2621]

I wouldn’t ever trust any mechanical unit where Boeing is the prime contractor!

[@sirael1689]

Click bait - no new informations... (just repeating info like all YTbers).

[@catsupchutney]

Exactly! Shame on Alpha Tech.

[@alphatech4966]

Starliner's return date and you still find it old?

[@alphatech4966]

@@catsupchutney It may be old to you but new to many others.

[@frankkolmann4801]

yep bait

[@LiquorandCheeseburgers]

@@alphatech4966 Anyone that thinks this news is "new" doesn’t really follow said topic to begin with. So, back to "old news".....

[@richtidd]

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship. The mate was a mighty sailin' man, the Skipper brave and sure, The passengers set sail that day, for an 8 day tour, an a 8 day tour. The thrusters started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed. If not for the courage of the fearless crew the Starliner would be lost. The Starliner would be lost.

[@tjmcguire9417]

You just made me laugh stupidly. Thanks!!

[@larrypage2579]

So Boeing remains "confident..." i have a lack of confidence in the 700 series aircraft, much less any spacecraft. I wonder how much this indecisiveness has to do with Boeing's lobbying.

[@Gamble661]

Something else to consider when talking about an extended stay on the ISS is age. The average age of an astronaut candidate is 34. Williams is 58 and Wilmore is 61, we've all read about the effects an extended stay in space has on the human body and while both astronauts are in great shape there's no getting around their ages and that those effects will probably hit them harder than someone in their 30's. They're both supposedly "retired" and had only planned on being up there for 8 or 10 days originally. 60 is by no means old but it's also not 30 or 40, that's just a fact of nature.

[@marinmitu995]

If Dragon were in this situation, the FAA, NASA, the US government would have jumped down Elon's throat! After all the money and years of trying, now they don't know where to take the shirt off!

[@alldog222]

1 slightly used Starliner, 1 owner, low mileage, well maintained with records, title in hand. However, due to unforeseen circumstances, you will need to pick vehicle up. $500.00 obo

[@paulroberts7429]

Lets congratulate Russia's Soyuz and progress 89 for providing much needed fresh supplies to Starliner crew Sunita Williams & Butch Wilmore in the mission brief, Russia showing compassion to the US astronauts.

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

In all honesty, if there were no major concerns about returning crew safety - they would be back on Earth months ago.

[@7moonman1]

"I hope they can get the ship back safely & intactt also any crew there & if & when any rescue crew too get back safely. Pretty much tired of hearing about all this in any media. Boeing can never recover my trust & respect. That is a very sad thing!" """❣️""" """👍😎👌"""

[@enoynaert]

This just seems like a repeat of stories that are several days old.

[@alphatech4966]

our channel just did it for the first time and of course no repeat

[@larrysanxter6343]

This sounds like the same "competent" yet fatal decisions made for Challenger and Discovery shuttles on their space journeys. NASA has a true nack for these deliberations which seem wholly ego driven.😢

[@MattMcclellan-on1zk]

It seems like all the videos on u tube are misleading

[@JohnKorvell]

Boeing: It's safe. Trust us. Hop in for a ride home... Astronauts: (gulp)

[@tedwalford7615]

Perhaps the choice of whether to fly Butch and Suni back on the Starliner should be up to them. They're both professionals; let them decide after hearing what the risks are. In fact, it could be brought home by a single astronaut if they each felt differently.

[@roberthayes5037]

Amazing how nasa left those astronauts stranded like if they were some piece of equipment

[@francoismourot490]

They do not need at least 2 providers, they need at least one trustable

[@henryjraymondiii961]

This is an announcement that there will be (but not yet IS) a "return date". II think everyone knows that sometime or other a decision must be made. This says a decision is "coming up". But there is no actual decision to report. Glad I know this distinction now. Live & learn.

[@gabrielsierra6890]

Why don't they send helium tanks via Dragon to replenish Starliner's reserves so it could safely maneuver for return?

[@professor-viewsalot]

So it took NASA 4 days to announce that they had a non concluding meeting. I could have made an announcement of no progress to my boss in not much more than 4 seconds and I would have expected to get sacked too, along with the contractor being black permenantly black listed.

[@nickcaci7238]

Forgive my ignorance, but did NASA ever send up the Starliner to dock to the ISS unmanned before this trip? And why did not NASA arrange for more compatibility between Space-X and Boeing’s space suits? I hope the two stranded astronauts are getting paid OVERTIME.

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Why not send Dragon up now and bringing the two astronauts home . Then send another Dragon up to complete the scheduled flight. Boeing is a total disaster. Follow the money.

[@LbLedesma-zp6pm]

Because Joe hates Elon and Elon and give a shit about NASA or genocide Joe..

[@vladfedosov2723]

No way. They're waiting for Russian SOYUZ.

[@toddbu-WK7L]

In previous instances where NASA returned crews home in damaged spacecraft, they had no choice. Here they do. All NASA has to do is tell Boeing that they'll need to fly another UNCREWED mission to prove that the thrusters have been repaired before being certified to fly crewed missions again.

[@bobbybirge5092]

Please correct me if Im wrong. Dragon add power to the ISS and Starliner draws power?

[@setituptoblowitup]

The post launch conference will be awesome...

[@karlp8484]

It's agregious that Boeing don't even know HOW the thrusters fail. That's the root cause for these delays and indecisions. As an engineer you can't solve a problem until you understand the problem.

[@eldorado3523]

this mission and the decision to go ahead with the launch with problems, was clearly a hail mary attempt to bring up the stock value for Boeing after their debacle with their 737 MAXs.

[@AmbientMorality]

@@eldorado3523 The helium leaks weren't a problem though, and that was all that was known before launch.

[@uzlonewolf]

@@AmbientMorality Except both of the previous unmanned flights had these exact same thruster issues.

[@uzlonewolf]

@karlp8484 To be fair, Boeing did not build the thrusters, Aerojet Rocketdyne did. How was Boeing supposed to know that giving the wrong specs to Aerojet engineers would result in thrusters that fail? (not joking)

[@idanceforpennies281]

@@uzlonewolf With the 787 battery electrical problems they tried to throw Hitachi under the bus, but it also came down to a Boeing electrical design issue. Not manufacturing quality - Boeing design. It's just part of their ingrained culture to deflect and blame airline maintenance, pilots, subcontractors, whoever.

[@albertross2322]

Starliner should only be used for resupply missions for at least ten flights before it's used for any crew missions!

[@uzlonewolf]

Can't, they only have 6 more rockets. After that Starliner has no way of launching.

[@wezleyjackson9918]

A spokesperson at NASA saying "..[Starliner return involves] more risk than we would like.." Any risk is too much! Especially if SpaceX's Dragon is known to be safer - If NASA chooses to put the crew on Starliner for return and anything goes wrong, NASAs name will be trashed for choosing politics over safety of crew.

[@riogrande5761]

Two very good companies? We'll ... One of those companies is not very good. Sadly, it's glory days seem to be past.

[@BrotherMichaeloftheCross]

Finances may dictate a lot. They must proceed; continuing the up in the air status is impossible. Two competing systems does not make sense - they need to be working together ,

[@precbsfender]

There should always be a rescue vehicle on STAND BY..that should be LAW..

[@edwardevans7219]

ANY FLIGHT OF STAR-LINER IS ALWAYS A CRUDE MISSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@somedude1841]

Can we get Elon to build airplanes next.

[@GalileonPrime]

I see NASA is still in denial, they won't admit they were wrong in sending such a problem plagued ship to the space station.

[@pfv3462]

Star Blunder is like Byd vs Tesla they are in development! the batteries in satellites last longer. I wonder why anyone would fly on a new space test rocket that has never returned to Earth unmanned? I hope it doesn't turn into a disaster scenario.

[@wbwarren57]

Headstone contributions? Where can I contribute towards the cost of the headstones for the two Starliner astronauts? Don't accuse me of being pessimistic! I am merely acting on our knowledge of the track records of Boeing (346 dead on two 737Max planes) and NASA (17 dead on the ground and in space).

[@my2cents645]

The window popped out when moving it to the pad for lift off, lets hope it dont pop out on reentry.

[@wbwarren57]

@@my2cents645 Don't worry. Even if it does pop out, it is VERY unlikely that either Boeing or NASA managers will be tried even if the astronauts are inside. Boeing killed 346 on the 737 Max and only one person went to trial and NASA has killed 17 or so astronauts and NO ONE went to trial. Also, if the astronauts are inside, Boeing will still make money by charging their families for "cremation services".

[@vc7393]

That means you will heat them, and that can cause a problem. They are Lithium, is that correct?

[@richardchitty264]

When is the next Soyuz capsule going up?

[@TerryB751]

Another video stated Suni's eyesight was getting worse supposedly due to weightlessness. If she stays up there for months longer, who knows what her situation might be?

[@jamesvermillion5151]

As I recall the SpaceX Crew Dragon had to make an unmanned test flight to the ISS and back. I don't remember seeing the Starliner do anything similar.

[@ryolinee]

What is the great spacex channel and alpha tech who has one person/family? I see the video has similarities

[@alphatech4966]

We are friends

[@fionajack9160]

Clickbait and repetitive content are strong similes

[@ryolinee]

@@alphatech4966 No wonder. I see your video concepts are almost the same and your video upload times are almost the same

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

I gather from a more factual YT channel, that suits are not necessary for the return voyage. They have some purposes in emergencies, but one could do the trip in regular clothes. Re NASA at other times being prepared to push the 1 in 270 risk limit: um, I doubt it. It is key metric for crew safety, and I would not think NASA would subject crew to higher risk if avoidable, if only for the pushback in the event of a problem. Of course, assessing such odds is not possible with any serious precision. Plainly there is a lot of scope of assessing one situation or another as lying on either side of that number.

[@art.is.life.eternal]

Correct. These are IVA (Intravehicular Activity) suits, and are not NECESSARILY needed. They are thin, and serve only as an additive safety factor. Better to have them than not, but if it was me, and I was weighing the difference between returning on a leaking POS bucket, or a 100% safety record crewed return module from SpaceX, the decision wouldn't be too hard.

[@uzlonewolf]

Yeah, that "1 in 270" risk limit has already been thrown out the window, the only question now is which of the more-risky options are the least bad.

[@gregoryfaith4303]

You are in error about the ISS.. There is constant voice and/or data vommunications with the ground 24 hours a day between the crew and ground controllers and the families of the past, current and future crews when necessary. If an astronaut wants to "phone home", they are more than welcome to get on the secure comms net and make that call. Secondly, the Starliner crews are tasked now to assist station members with experiments, cleaning chores and maintenance of that space station while waiting to go home. They are in no way stressing or bored while on orbit. Both are not new to living there. The Station is designed to accommodate up to ten crew at any time to accomodate exactly this situation. Russian, ESA and NASA Ground replenishment visits resupply the station regularly year round. No one is going to starve up there anytime soon. Read up on this the next time you decide to talk about this subject. I am happy to school you on that program anytime. Former NASA space station operations team member 1995 - 2004. Good day sir.

[@fionajack9160]

Thanks for this. Alpha Tech. Great SpaceX. Tech map have their storylines and sometimes lose sight of the facts

[@OdinReactor]

Boeing's Starliner has already been a massive embarrassment for both NASA and Boeing. HOWEVER, if the thing does fail on re-entry and both crew are lost, it would be a disaster for Boeing. Comparisons to Columbia are already going around. I think embarrassment is preferable to disaster.

[@daklakdigital3691]

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD TWO COMPATIBLE SUITS? Immediately NASA should set standards for nóintz such modules from different countries and the ISS, between suits & helmets, etc.

[@sharkness01]

DO NOT RISK THE LIVES OF OUR ASTRONAUTS! We should hitch a ride with SpaceX. I greatly. trust Elon Musks operations management over Boeings, who has been cutting corners to satisfy shareholders.😢

[@A_Victim]

Yeah if it was my life on the line and I had to choose, I’m choosing Space X over Boeing 100% of the time.

[@jonny777bike]

Every space craft must be able to run without astronauts in it.

[@williamcase426]

yes

[@francescoscarinci7109]

No date, clickbait!

[@philippostiglione2011]

I hope NASA is careful as far as the astronauts are concerned

[@barracuda7018]

I would stay away from anything made by Boeing..If its Boeing I aint going...😂

[@joebradshaw7979]

Click bait title. there was no solid answer

[@A_Victim]

So what exactly is the return date? I must have missed it. I do watch vids at higher speeds which makes it easier to miss info.

[@winnieholly4886]

I thought he said that a decision was made that Starliner was coming back September 6th with or without the crew. So it seems to me that ‘one half’ the decision has been made.

[@fionajack9160]

@@winnieholly4886 Date supposedly came from a reporter, not official NASA announcement

[@benjaminblair3619]

Trust musk. Scrap all bowing contracts. Bulster dream chaser and encurage all launch providers to build there crew vessels.

[@kendrickpi]

The Raise of Dream Chaser!

[@johnwhitmore5408]

If they decide to bring those 2 astronauts back to earth in that faulty craft and something happens to them, then someone will need to go to prison. This is ridiculous. We are talking about human life. And as much as I love space exploration, maybe NASA will need to be shut down.

[@sharkness01]

That is something to ponder. It seems that ANYTHING associated with Government is full of waste and could be done better by private industry. NASA was created back in a time when ANYTHING associated with space was on the verge of science fiction. Remember how the USA and Soviets raced to see who could send a satellite around the Earth? We are light years past that with private industry working toward colonizing Mars. Why do we even need NASA? We are thirty five Trillion dollars in debt. I wonder how much could be saved eliminating NASA?

[@bobwferguson]

It’s just supposed to be fun so there’s really no problem it was a test flight so keep on keeping on

[@abreyu]

Report video for spam or fake title

[@albertross2322]

Boeing can barely keep humans safe on this side of the Karman Line! How can we expect them to keep humans alive on the space side of it?

[@MrGoesBoom]

I've got no issues with Nasa wanting redundancies and backup methods of getting equipment and crew up to space. But at this point how many second, third, forth, fifth, etc chances is Boeing going to be getting after billions more than any of the other coontractors have gotten with dismal results? They whine about how fixed price contracts that they're getting now are hurting them, but stuff like this and SLS prove that giving them price plus contracts is a horrible idea. Hell, I'm still scratching my head over the reasoning of this current mission being manned in the first place considering the first launch was a disaster and the next two tries ( YEARS apart and late ) were also giant messes. Who the hell decided "Hey, all these failures and problems and not a single smooth launch yet. Let's put people on the next one! "

[@kurtjensen7264]

If they stay up there any longer. Suni William,s hair will be stuck like you see in the picture 😅

[@dragoonseye76]

I’m guessing they are worried about the survivable probabilities of the SL.

[@dylanatkinson1426]

Just eat a chunk of humble pie, drop Elon a line, and let him get something up there to get them home ASAP.

[@wpatrickw2012]

You might as well let the Russians control ISS. Musk is practically a Russian agent.

[@leroycharles9751]

I say let them try to fly it back since they are certified test pilots.

[@Jillousa]

I predict that sterliner is not going to have a smooth ride home

[@solarfunction1847]

StarBlunder not StarLiner, so named after the BlunderBuss was known for it's inaccuracy, very limited range 2gether with it's lengthy time required to reload so every use was hit or miss just like StarBlunder.

[@tjmcguire9417]

Not sure you understand. The final decision is up to Butch and Suny. NASA and company can yammer all they want. Starliner is unsafe. We are talking 2 commanders who love space. GOOD LUCK. forcing them into Starliner. Mark Kelly and more easily did a year. They are not stranded. They are happy. And now that the new resupply has happened, (Thank you Baikonur) ....no one gives a poop. I want them safely home. That would be Dragon.

[@art.is.life.eternal]

It is NOT up to the astronauts - and never has been. They are paid by NASA - and NASA is their boss. They are also blocking one of two docking ports - and holding up missions that other astronauts, countries, ansd companies have trained for YEARS to perform. This is a complete waste of ISS time, as its life diminishes. The ISS can only hold so many people - and this delay is INEXCUSABLE. Those missions that have been skipped over while NASA dithers, and Boeing sits on its fat corporate ego, will not be carried out, because the procession of missions must proceed. You can't expect astronauts and other paying companies to wait, while NASA vacillates and delays current missions because of this disaster.

[@uzlonewolf]

@@art.is.life.eternal And how exactly would someone on Earth force the astronauts in LEO to do anything they don't want to?

[@geraldbaily170]

Dump the crapliner into the ocean . Use the Dragon . .

[@mikes8510]

Move on folks, nothing to see here. 🎣

[@philippostiglione2011]

Dream Chaser should be the second vehicle to service the ISS

[@daniel.c2501]

So saddening that Boeing placed those astronaut crew life’s in jeopardy!!!!!

[@THX..1138]

Nope! There is now no chance Starline has a crewed return...They have been updating Starliner for an autonomous return. NASA would never ever risk doing a major software update to Starliner if they intended to allow Butch and Suni to leave on Starliner. The risk the software changes could cause them to be stranded after they detach from ISS is ever worse than the possibility of the thrusters failing....So when NASA ordered Boeing to update the software that ended the possibility of a manned return.

[@jmf5246]

Love alpha tech! Go spacex

[@alphatech4966]

Love you too, have a good day!

[@ad5mq]

This was fairly predictable. The "SENATE LAUNCH SYSTEM" tells you all you need to know about the launvh platform. The whole mess should have been cancelled 2 decades ago

[@garymunro5780]

They will save some money on the astronauts salary. You don.t have to pay people who aren't even on our Planet.

[@NoobNoob1986]

Boeing needs to get better at life

[@alphatech4966]

worry too much

[@Jay-og7ld]

Let's face it, space is too hard for nasa.

[@pfv3462]

I wonder why an astronaut is needed to save these astronauts! AI is the new miracle, a computer can do everything better and doesn't need oxygen. But who programs and maintains AI?

[@tommywestmoreland6113]

Good luck with that.

[@johnlansing2902]

Wellllll dei has struck again ?

[@henrycross8776]

Spacex , take up 2 Spacex suits for NASAs tokens

[@CharlesFinch-m5k]

NASA needs to grab their balls and man up and tell Boeing that they are done with them. SpaceX all the way.

[@davidevans6758]

No crew, does it really matter. This time. Opportunity to get back one of those defunct 9:12 15 laptop's for the Smithsonian space collect and other near obsolete stuff before decommissioning when the ISS gets the SpaceX boot in 2031.

[@roncook2748]

NASA wants two providers (Boeing and SpaceX) in the event that one provider cannot meet the requirements. It seems to me that Boeing is not meeting those requirements by the failure of Star-liner. NASA needs to cut the losses and engage SpaceX. Get the astronauts home then assess next steps. Lives are more important than the mission, money and pride!

[@TechnoCaveman1]

Ok, I just read the comments and this is another click bait video. I have had enough of this channel, time to unsubscribe, fearwell.

[@jim2386]

2:23 if they stay on Dragon until 2025, that’s even smaller than the space station! Ahhhhhh

[@alphatech4966]

yeah! that's right!

[@bjl1226]

Returning from a 3 hour tour

[@raystevens687]

I think NASA shouldn't risk there life's with the Boeing capsel I think they should remotely remove the capsel and bring it into earth's atmosphere to burn it up.

[@Jillousa]

Another problem, They didn't put software on the ship for remote removal and if they don't update the software it could damage the space station when it tries to undock with no astronauts

[@chillout1109]

@@Jillousa Boeing is already working on updating the software. They said it would take a couple of weeks to complete and have Starliner ready for autonomous undocking if NASA decides that to be the final decision.

[@uzlonewolf]

@@Jillousa So grab it with the Canadarm and yeet it away.

[@opollo]

Nasa gotta save face and get the astronaunts onto starliner and return it to earth.

[@palsgraph]

First and, ummmm are you sure? I can't wait to witness it...

[@alphatech4966]

I am sure

[@wmffmw1854]

Sierra and Blue Origin might provide an alternative to SpaceX Dragon. I'd say Sierra needs partner with SpaceX to put a crewed version of DreamChaser in orbit on top of a Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy. Do it on a fixed price contact. So fare Bezos has been too unfocused and slow. Get cost to $10K a seat per launch and you have a tourist attraction.

[@TLH442]

If they need a crew to send it back properly then why doesn't Elon musk rent them a couple of robots and then rig them up so users on the ground can interact with the robots via the controls. Come on you got the hardware do it! I mean you might as well figure out something just patch something together and put the damn thing on the ground.

[@tjmcguire9417]

It is just human logistics. Capsules and people. I have no doubt Dragon will bring Butch and Suny home. And they will love it. They are trained for it. No worries.

[@art.is.life.eternal]

It would be a complete waste of two very expensive robots.

[@daveb-d4t]

AI bots

[@NiickTheDiick]

Bill Nelson; possible pilot deviation; say ready when able to copy phone number. Jesus Christ guys, cut the cord and let this doomed ship and program go before more senseless deaths from Boeing.

[@andrewchristian1052]

Wow it long day in space

[@58dbeck33]

You paint William's green and youve got the doppelganger witch form the wizard of Oz...holy crap lol

[@JWyatt91]

The thing is those astronauts thst went to the moon didn't really have a choice and what ship they returned in these astronauts do

[@Timfamy]

Get your popcorn ready

[@njjeff201]

Does Jet Blue have any flights?

[@dwightpierce9973]

Hell man, just give Boeing the keys to FIR3T KNOX