Big Boy Heatsinks! The 64 Core AMD Threadripper 3990X Cooler Test

[@mvanderplas2275]

Steve, the RnD money for the wraithripper was spent as follows: 50% to naming, 40% to esthetics, 10% to actual function.

[@shiraz1736]

So pretty much like every other brand except Noctua.

[@trisjack82]

Shirazenema what about arctic, bequiet?

[@ryuuseiboi950]

@@shiraz1736 Yes, Noctua spend it all on cocaine and prostitutes.

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

@@shiraz1736 Scythe, Thermalright?

[@vh9network]

Isn't the Wraithwripper meant for TR4 CPUs, not TRX40. The TDP of 3990X is much higher than the 2990WX.

[@KrzysztofKorotko]

I feel smart I put bigger noctua on my 3950x and ignoring liquid cooling advise. It's on par with top tier liquid cooling on stock fan speed. Impressive with still having room to boost fan speed for better performance. I also don't need to worry for the next few years about pump, gunk or aio drying out

[@julian.morgan]

Yes and the combination of 3950x & even the slightest possibility of gunk or leaks is really worth avoiding. At these noise levels /performance I really don't understand why anyone would take the risk, however small, with such an expensive CPU. Especially when for a tiny fraction of the cost of the CPU you can get yourself an excellent case with great thermals/airflow plea as many additional silent fans as needed i.e. more fans at lower RPM push the same air as fewer fans at higher RPM and more noise.

[@evildeedz66]

@@julian.morgan You can't possibly think people would have taken those risks, if the custom liquid cooling weren't necessary, could you?! The thing you should know when it comes to Zen 2 is the clocks are adjusted according to the temperature/cooling capacity. Saying air cooling might suffice really depends on what kind of workload you want to put it through...there are truck loads of benchmarks where you can see up to 200Mhz differences in boosting behaviour. Again, this is because, if your cooling isn't great, the CPU will just lower its frequencies to keep it under the preset limits. It might be enough if you're looking at maybe some games/applications/software, but it's more of a misconception. The cold-plate designs are old and based on monolithic chip-dies, while Zen 2's layout is a completely new architecture using multiple chips; even if the radiator is great, the problem is that when it's under load the cold-plate can't keep up with the heat output. Unfortunately, using a monolithic design would have made Zen 2 way too expensive so they had to come up with something else.

[@cgunugc]

@@evildeedz66 ... People take stupid, unnecessary risks all the time. This testing shows minimal difference between the best air cooler and the best water cooler - seriously, the CPU is not thermally throttling at an 82° peak.

[@julian.morgan]

@@evildeedz66 These tests compare a good air cooler with a good AIO - custom liquid cooling is a whole other ball game, not least because then you are not talking about something massed produced where you are prey to poor QC with no sure way of knowing whether or not you drew the short straw until something goes expensively wrong. With a custom loop things are very different because YOU control the quality of the construction to a much greater extent. I'm sure there are niche use cases where custom loops and Threadripper are a perfect combination, but I'm equally sure that if it were my $5000 I'd run it at stock with an air cooler and do something else creative with the time difference.

[@evildeedz66]

@@cgunugc There is no "high end" CLC, that's really the issue, actually. Past CLC's I've used failed at some point and I personally would run away from Asetek. As for thermal throttling, yes it is, one of the measuring points is 80 (btw I highly encourage you to check benchmarks on this, plenty of them in OCN and YT). It's not necessarily a bottleneck, you can for sure render or run it trouble-free on an air cooler, it's just that it won't clock as high for sure. Just my subjective point of view, but if you'd ask me, I wouldn't render a huge asset overnight knowing it's going to sit north of 80°. But then again there are really dozens of specific use cases. @Julian I get your point, AIO is just another overmarketed term so they're really shiny baubles for people who want lights in their pc's or have space constraints, hence forgoing massive tower coolers. On the second part, you can install plenty of fail-safe protocols, from alarms to special functions that prevent most of the potential problems. If you can afford a 5k rig, then surely you can spend on a proper interface that has built-in protections. Now if you need a 5k rig for video editing, sure, it doesn't make much sense to go into custom cooling. I would probably agree as well, if I had a 3960/70, air cooling is actually a decent choice especially since TRX40 has a much better IHS layout.

[@maxview99]

I sold my soul to Noctua a couple years ago, I regret nothing.

[@fredfinks]

You chose well. Been here for over a decade and you never need to look back. FYI, Nocuta will send you socket mounts (for future mobos), anywhere in the world, for free. Who else does that? Their fans are also best, no doubt. Guaranteed for 6 years (who else does that?). Practically you have a thing that has indefinite life span. Note : they didnt test the D15. That would have just made the others cry.

[@dimmacommunication]

@@fredfinks I think the D15 isn't available for TR

[@Joe-hb6ek]

@@dimmacommunication i think theres an adapter for threadripper.

[@knives6683]

'Up that famous creek without a paddle' Gotta love you, Steve... Slipping them in.

[@GamesBenchmarked]

What people expect when you say to people you spend all your money on aluminium: Stocks or car. Where you actually spent money: new 3990x cooler

[@Drone_101]

I'd love Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus to review this review after how long they've spent agonising over how to accurately review coolers.

[@Hardwareunboxed]

I'd rather just see their results, I would be shocked if the findings were much different. We take the average of three runs, re-seat the cooler twice, monitor power usage and the entire system... you know all the basic benchmark stuff.

[@lowzyyy]

yeah its all good but, why so much stress about cooler testing. If u know how to put thermal paste and mount the cooler i dont know what else could go wrong. Thats the first time i said wtf in reaction to theirs video. I think that this video its pretty much enough if u want to buy good cooler for TR

[@connormccloy9399]

@@lowzyyy small variations in power draw causes variations on the load experienced by the cooler. If you don't account for this fact, your tests are not super scientific. HUB methods are probably accurate enough.

[@AdamBrackney]

@@connormccloy9399 That's why you use averaging. GN's testing is dumb and over complicated. They have their heads up their asses and have tried to reinvent the wheel. I guarantee if you start comparing the percentage delta's in HUb videos vs GN's, you'll find GN has wasted a lot of money on testing.

[@LND3947]

@@AdamBrackney At least someone is doing the testing, so we have almost guaranteed figures for most coolers on the market. Gamers Nexus feel like they have put in 90% effort for 50% gains, but it is far better than doing nothing at all and leaving the computer product reviews as very much the same across the board. If the testing Gamers Nexus is doing doesn't interest that is fine, it is likely in that case you're probably not going to be too fussed about such minuscule specifics of a cooler anyway and just want a quick run-down of if it is worth getting or not. In which case, the conclusion at the moment is, if it is made by Noctua then it will probably do the job for your needs. It is that simple.

[@anthonymarquette9034]

Great video, but you missed the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4. I can overclock a 2990WX with this cooler.

[@urban.nomad23]

I tried a TR3960x with be quiet and got throttled :(

[@anthonymarquette9034]

@@urban.nomad23 That's a bummer. Is the cooling in the rest of the system adequate?

[@steviebro0538]

2990WX (250W) < 3990X (280W)

[@YAAMW]

Corsair: Our Watercooling parts offer the lowest temperatures Noctua: Hold my beer. If anything beats Noctua, I'll be genuinely surprised. If they start making their own watercooling solutions they'd push multiple companies out of business Also harbor unboxed is what KZbin thinks you're saying

[@KingHalbatorix]

Asatek would patent troll them into submission like everyone else

[@YAAMW]

Then I hope they manage would find a way around the patents because monopolies aren't good for anyone

[@bananya6020]

Arctic and thermalright?

[@undefinablereasoning]

I don't trust Noctua anymore ever since one of their low profile CPU cooler fans failed in a ESXi system I built even though there was barely any load.

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

Then comes Ice giant Thermosiphon...

[@lalhriatkimadochhil6046]

"Harware unboxed" almost got it

[@jGRite]

Hard pass on saying hardware.

[@cyangalaxy]

For me it says harbor unboxed :D

[@cordzMIX]

Harder box!

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

I've been saying this for years, do not use water coolers on consumer hardware that has a relatively small surface area, no point. All high end air coolers are liquid cooled anyway, convective fluid is much more "conductive" (if that makes sense) than water. Noctua clearly know what they are doing.

[@TheChadXperience909]

Well, there's your problem. You use arcane words, like "surface area", and expect people to understand it. Consider your audience, man!

[@MrBearyMcBearface]

Not only that but air cooling is much more reliable. If the fans break on an air cooler you still got a heatsink. If the pump breaks on a liquid cooler, best case you immediately throttle, worst case it busts a gasket, in a manner of speaking, and ruins things.

[@DeadNoob451]

@@MrBearyMcBearface Also you can just swap a case fan onto the air cooler if its a tower one.

[@MrBearyMcBearface]

@@DeadNoob451 oh yeah I didn't think about that. The funny thing is with liquid coolers you'll still need to replace fans because of the radiators. But at least in the situation they're essentially acting as case fans. But if they go bad you'd have to replace or else your processor will overheat. I wonder how good liquid cooling is if it was "passive"

[@mimireich]

@@TheChadXperience909 dude, even computer parts has it's material properties in it. Surface area are the most common factor in semiconductor so it make some sense.

[@zacchen1346]

Where is the Be quiet dark rock pro tr4?

[@kayaogz]

Pity that it's overlooked..

[@Phynellius]

does seem weird to snub be quiet on the regular, wonder if there's more to it

[@RedSunFX]

I generally have the feeling that BeQuiet gets overlooked a lot in the anglosphere. Their PSUs and air coolers are rarely considered unless BeQuiet specifically sponsors a build. The normal DRP4 performs similarly to a NH-D15 while being cheaper and looking better. Also, I have heard from system integrators that their PSUs rarely fail. They do make great products.

[@zacchen1346]

It is available at PCCG for AUD $119, a whopping $60 cheaper than a Wraith Ripper. How could Steve miss it

[@tommihommi1]

@@RedSunFX the DRP4 doesn't come close to the NH-D15, it's slightly worse than the U14S

[@bartekowca666]

Damn, I'd love to see nh-d15 with tr4 plate..

[@tommihommi1]

noctua has been showing prototypes of it for like 2 years now.

[@ec1021501]

I don't think it will fit, the d15 or d15s are just too big on both side.

[@a1segoendog180]

probably 2-4'c cooler than nhu14s dual fan

[@PainterVierax]

Great video Steve, good job ! :) 6:45 This high-pitched noise is a typical PWM issue. From my understanding, the signal is not smoothed enough by the capacitor of the integrated filter in the fan circuitry so at low frequency the pulse signal is still transmitted to the coil of the motor and its spires vibrates like the coil whine/buzz/hum that can occur on an inductance or a transformer. This should disappear by adding an external filter in-between or by setting the fan regulation in DC mode and letting the motherboard taking care of the filtering.

[@qweqaz5]

Hope to see the Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro TR4 cooler included in the test next time around.

[@spenmac]

I have the NH-U14s still mounted to my previous 4790k based rig. But managed to pickup a NH-14D over a year ago with dual fans on the cheap from ebay (for my eventual next rig). This then got installed in the new 3700x/msi ace build. The 3700 is a querky chip, it is always fluctuating temp-wise second to second. I have so far never seen it just reach a nice low idle temp, but conversely it never gets above 60c during normal full loads and never above 75c under all core full load via prime 95.

[@DeadNoob451]

Yeah the temp twitching is something odd about Ryzen chips in general. My 2700x also does that.

[@Blaquegold]

Hmmm. This has opened my eyes a little. I have an nhu12s chromax on my 9900k. Swing the difference in this test with 2 fans has me thinking of adding another fan. I swear I always get good insight from this channel. Thanks for this test.

[@Kaioken20]

I love your channel's chill opening music

[@renerant]

Nice work! Would've liked to have seen a 240/280mm aio thrown in for more context as well, but a 360mm custom loop only very slightly edging out air coolers pretty much negates that

[@haonanzhang6759]

It's pretty sad that there simply isn't any decent aio. I have a 2950x and have been dying to find a decent aio. The only proper aio would be from enermax which has some serios unsolved issues. The coolermaster ml360 only has a larger plate but the pump is not big enough to make it efficient, and the castle 280 is just mediocore as it cannot even keep my 2950x from throttling.

[@kidShibuya]

Not really because he didnt test different pump speeds or different fan speeds on the loop. Its possible (like with my own loop) that dropping fan speed has almost zero impact on temps, as the rad space is offering greater capacity than the heat spreader on the CPU can deliver.

[@nphil93992]

@@haonanzhang6759 You can solve the enermax issue. Buy one, drain all the crappy fluid out of it and replace it with a good pre mix from xspc or the like. I have and its fine

[@haonanzhang6759]

@@nphil93992 I have ek waterblock right now.

[@albundy06]

AMD may recommend water. I say any real customer of this chip that isn't on air needs their head examined. Excluding the horrible air course of course. Put the noctua on. No loop maintenance/ down time. No aio pump failures or enermax gunk issues. If you're work requires and justifies spending the money on such a system. IMHO you would be a fool to water cool it over air.

[@LukeHimself]

ICEGIANT

[@just_for_comments]

albundy06 Yh but some ppl care about looks as well and air coolers have absolutely nothing on *good* custom loops. And caring about looks is perfectly fine if the person chooses to.

[@Shiny_Gliscor]

That's why Level 1 techs built a watercooled workstation to replace a watecooled workstation for a professional Hollywood cgi artist. lol

[@DeadNoob451]

@@Shiny_Gliscor Didnt know lvl1 techs were the ultimate authority on common sense. Gotta ask them what underwear to chose tomorrow.

[@Carlitto2016]

How about a test where you disable SMT on the 3990x vs the 64-Thread 3970x and see how much SMT impacts performance today?

[@BusAlexey]

I doubt there's a noticable performance difference, otherwise we'd hear about it in the tech news :p

[@Thesuperhunter99]

This is a very interesting idea!

[@kevingalat4720]

There are another 2 air coolers one yet to hit the market. Currently available the Thermalright Silver Arrow TR4 edition is not reviewed here although available and the Thermal siphon from icegiant is not reviewed here. For the latter you might want to check on Linus Tech tips and Tom's hardware for the thermal siphon review.

[@jamesthomson8659]

Or you could just buy it 😎

[@ruiamaral4669]

You guys are the best. This is a true heatsink test and one I've been looking out for some time now. Great job.

[@hieubuimanh9521]

See, people always complain about how ugly Noctua's color scheme and crying how overprice they are but forgot that not and never been theirs top priority. Noctua is here to do their best: Cooling with minimum noise as possible.

[@spira1983]

Freezer TR 50 performs awesome over time. Its a bit tricky to clean it up, but it can hold TR 1920X OC 4050 mhz 24/7 with Cinebench R20 up to 68 degrees. Real usage so far (2yrs of moderate usage), i wasnt able to record more than 62 degrees with that OC. Mobo is Aorus Gaming 7 x399.

[@vh9network]

I did plan on getting a Wraithripper for my 2990wx if my CoolerMaster 240mm AIO ever go out. But I'm realizing these AIOs last pretty long. I have a used Zalman LQ 310 that I paid $9 on Ebay, its been running for nearly a year with no issue cooling an overclocked Ryzen 5 2600.

[@XBnPC]

I'm running a Noctua NH D14 Ryzen 3950X. I fear nothing. 63c after 24hr load on all 32 logical cores. Yeah,. it's like that 🙂

[@TheChadXperience909]

I still use D14 after all these years, too. That's one cooler which was worth the cost.

[@gameboy3800]

someone should test the wraithripper with a better fan like a noctua to see if the lower temperatures could be mitigated with a better fan. though this would raise the price of it even further.

[@yamato1420]

Gotta admit, would've liked to see the Dark Rock 4 Pro here.

[@cheveyo2403]

or the noctua NH D15

[@evildeedz66]

They don't have any D15 with a TRX4 mount, it would have been awesome if they did, though.

[@marklion315]

be queit have not trx4 cooler

[@dakupurple]

@@marklion315 I'm commenting from my 1st gen TR system with a TR4 Be Quiet Dark Rock 4. When I purchased it was within $5 of the Noctua cooler, and the only review I could find showed it as marginally better than the Noctua, likely due to 2 fans. Noise didn't really matter to me, as I have a Radeon VII, so as long as it is quieter than the card, I don't care much.

[@cheveyo2403]

@@evildeedz66 fair enough thats is good reason not to test it!

[@cheveyo2403]

at 4:31 are the names swapped for noctua as the duel setup is listed as running 2 degrees hotter as the non dual in the list.

[@proesterchen]

I'm using a BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro TR4 for my Threadripper. Seems decent enough, and comes with two fans in the box, but the extra width means you can't get to the innermost RAM slots with it installed.

[@MudkipMan97]

I was just thinking about the best air cooler for the 3990X, did you read my mind?! :P

[@ignasanchezl]

I did miss the Thermalright Silver Arrow TR4. Twin tower design, large heatpipe coverage, heatsink about 10% heavier than Noctua's. Similar fan to Noctua but 2500 RPM max. I think it could easily be on top, while being a bit louder.

[@frikkievuiltrens]

The NH-U14S is a beast of a cooler and highly compatible with your memory! Sadly no Chromax version is in the pipeline. You'll have to spend extra on the Chromax accessories to colour match your build, but this comes at a pretty penny. At that price point I rather opted for Be Quiet! for my all black build.

[@fredfinks]

When you choose colour over performance. I suggest get the pc off your desk and gain some real estate. It wont be close to your head so even quieter. No need to worry about poofy colour options. No need to be distracted by tacky disco lights. Look at the monitor FFS! I wonder if PCs where the size of a dvd case would people have RGB lights, smoke and a little chime that plays 'the final countdown' when you turn it on. I want a gaudy strobing RGB keyboard to sear my retinas

[@CrusadesOClock]

This video summed up: Function>Form

[@plot1184]

love the compact video format... short and precise

[@menpee]

Noctua products could be neon green with yellow parts, I'd still buy them because of their indisputable performance.

[@Steveindajeep]

Odd Noctua didn't make a NH-D15 to fit TR. Its got decent ram clearance. Not as good as the NHU-14 but its a decent and cools a touch better.

[@RylTheValstrax]

It should be noted that the wraithripper ships with the fan installed.. backwards.. =.= (I've fixed 2 of 2 retail samples with that issue, and plenty of amazon reviews show the same problem)

[@snipe3045]

I'm surprise you don't have the bequit threadripper cooler on that list, the bequit one is really good

[@Rickbearcat]

I'm happy to see that you came to a definitive conclusion at the end of the video. Well done.

[@rllward]

Can you check out low profile cpu coolers for ITX cases?

[@fredfinks]

just get whatever noctua sells.

[@Mythricia1988]

Stuff like this is why I buy Noctua products, and I'll keep doing it, no matter how many angry commenters keep saying they are overpriced marketing bs or whatever people like to claim... They actually engineer their own stuff from the bottom up and they're freakin' good at it, that's why they cost more...! I must have bought like 30+ Noctua fans over the last 10 years for both PC's and even non-PC uses, and a handful of heatsinks. Heck I got Noctua fans in my oscilloscopes, lab power supplies, my NAS, you name it, if it has a fan, it gets replaced with a Noctua.

[@KeithYipKW]

The high pitch noise may be caused by vibrations of some loose fins. My wraith prism had the bottom fin in its stack poorly crimped.

[@oysterhead5150]

I recently purchased the Deep Cool Fryzen, it works great on my 2950X. Great video btw!

[@matthewkuhl79]

The Noctua costs quite a bit more when you go with dual Chromax NF-A15s over the stock one

[@sterlinglittle]

thanks for this! have been waiting for this exact info before doing a build, worrying about longevity of water cooling. shame the bequiet tr4 cooler didn’t make it into this video but older reviews show its perf similar to the noctua but a couple degrees warmer

[@EmoEmu]

You cant fit a different fan into the Cooler Master? Seems like the bracket can be put on any other fan as long as they have the same thickness.

[@chooka003]

I have the Noctua 14S in a push/pull config on my 1950X. 59 degrees under full load. The hardest part is.... who sits in a room set at 21 degrees? No wonder Steve is wearing a hoodie!! My 3950X has a Corsair H100i pro and temps sit at around 77 degrees @ 4Ghz, top mounted. It’s quite noisy with the fans spinning at 2000rpm to keep it at 77 degrees but my ambient temp is also quite high.

[@Donn2025]

Thanks for the great video as always. The Noctua air cooler is indeed impressive. It would be nice to see how the Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360 RGB TR4 Edition All-in-One Hydro CPU Cooler would perform and how far you could push the overclocking with it. I think it is currently the best on the market in terms of the contact plate configuartion/size wrt the threadripper. Also testing different fans, replacing the original liquid cooler fans: 1. Best CFM: 120mm Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 3000RPM PWM High Performance Fan 2. Best noise level: 120mm Noctua NF-S12A PWM Ultra Quiet PWM Cooling Fan 3. Mid CFM/noise: 120mm Noctua NF-P12 REDUX PWM 12V 1700RPM 120mm Quiet Case Fan. Cheers.

[@fredfinks]

Really need to compare the noctua d15 with liquid. Prob with liquid is gunk buildup (yes even in sealed AIOs) and potential pump failure & leaking. They have a lifespan. Compare that with a big dumb block of metal with the best fans on the planet. 6 year fan warranty and they last much longer. (ive got multiple noctua fans over a decade and they all work fine). Even if i was going liquid i would use Noctua fans to cool radiator. The fans to use are the A12x25. Massive static pressure for minimal noise. I have 3 on the front of case linked via the tiny noctua fan controller dial. dialed in to max rpm just below audible.

[@shanemshort]

I would like to see the closed loop re tested with a cold plate that has decent IHS coverage. The XSPC/Watercool/EK options should fit that bill nicely.

[@stickygeiden]

The longevity and reliabilty of Noctua's products is out of this world. It's just the rolls-royce of air coolers.

[@Hevethee]

The moment you realise that single tower one is beating dual tower heatsinks. Just show's how well noctua designed the thing.

[@DeadNoob451]

Yeah its pretty insane. Not to mention quiet at the same time.

[@ppsarrakis]

how can noctua be so cool while looking slimmer than the rest?? what magic is this?

[@bloodondope]

they spend years developing their coolers and fans.

[@tommihommi1]

they use very high quality heat pipes, and have the best heat transfer from the CPU to them.

[@fredfinks]

Chinese junk Vs best in the world, designed with attention to detail, Austrian engineering. Just open a Noctua box and see. Fans - guaranteed for 6 years and theyll last much longer. (no one comes close). Noctua will also send you socket mounts (for future mobos) anywhere in the world for free. Buy Noctua, forget the rest.

[@karulean]

Literally was deciding and this video came out. What a coincidence.

[@OzHuski]

FYI - Anyone looking to go AIO on Threadripper - dont bother. Both the Gen 1 and 2 Liqtech TR4 series corrode and die (I know, wasted money on two of them). There is very few AIO's with a decent cold plate that fit TR4 and of them I havent found reviews for the 360mm Deepcool Castle or Coolermaster/Thermaltake TR4 edition. Only option I had was the Wraithripper at the time which I swapped out the stock fan for a Corsair ML I had spare. My 1950x only hits 54 degrees under normal loads at 4.1ghz and 1.265v with a 1400rpm.

[@salehamini2036]

I was lazying around and was tricking myself that I will go to work after watching your video and you upload in the exact moment '-'

[@LND3947]

Be glad you have a job to go to, not all of us have that luxury of putting their skills to good use. Perhaps take some time to look outside the box, and look at the world around you and appreciate that you have a job that someone wants YOU to do.

[@salehamini2036]

@@LND3947 Work doesn't always means you have a job '-'

[@LND3947]

@@salehamini2036 Ah, I misunderstood what you meant by "Work". I assumed that by "Work" you meant go to your day (or night) job.

[@LND3947]

@@salehamini2036 I apologise for my misunderstanding. I hope you can forgive my rather aggressive response.

[@salehamini2036]

@@LND3947 Its okay man :D

[@EmoEmu]

You could try out the new dual-tower Zalman with stock fans and a pair of Noctua fitted on it instead. That cooler seems quite efficient.

[@saxtremer]

AFAIK, you can crank up Noctua's fans up to 1500 RPM. It might give another 2-4 degrees advantage. I bet it would still be much quieter than most of the competition. I would be really afraid of keeping a 4000$ CPU beside a water reservoir. It's great that one can easily avoid water cooling.

[@ytQrash]

The be quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4 would have been interesting to see in this comparison. It's a larger heatsink which may mean it has better cooling potential at higher power levels. Reviews have shown it compares well to the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3.

[@mapesdhs597]

What would have been interesting is to see how each cooler behaved with the same fan fitted, running at the same speed (put a Noctua on that Cooler Master?). Likewise, testing each cooler such that they're all operating at the same noise level.

[@Link0402]

It's insane how well Noctua Air coolers perform compared to everything else (not just on this socket). You'd think manufacturers would have figured out how an air cooler should look for optimal performance by now, but it seems not.

[@giorgi7757]

Harbor unboxed is my favourite tech channel

[@ignasanchezl]

I thought the TR4 Noctua has a specific fan that spun faster than 1200 RPM

[@joannaatkins822]

I've always been extremely impressed with Arctics coolers for their price to performance, and in many situations I would consider them a first choice for cooling. A prime example from Arctic is for any AM4 Ryzen CPU up to the top tier Ryzen 7s, the Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo is the cheapest and quietest with exceptional cooling performance. It's usually less than a hyper 212 Evo to buy and cools better. The only reason I can't endorse this specific cooler for Ryzen 9 CPUs is simply because I don't have one to test for myself (hint hint Hardware Unboxed! Test this cooler! *Please*) The problem with the Arctic air coolers is that their main selling point is price to performance, so when faced with high end parts they always seem "good enough I guess" without actually being as impressive as they should be. With high end parts like the amazing 3990, they need to up the cost by 20% and use that to match competitors for price while using that extra cost for better and more capable cooling.

[@miniweeddeerz1820]

Yeah if you aren't that much into RGB, or need cheap case fans or coolers, Arctic are the way to go. The 5 pack of Arctic p12 is a deal for 27 dollars. And if you want to oc a Ryzen 5, that's the cooler to go for. And it's also great for cooling Ryzen 7s.

[@DeadNoob451]

Cant speak about their heatsinks, but their fans like the F14 are a steal. Around 5 bucks and both reasonably quiet and effective. Sure, nowhere near Noctua levels, but i decked out my entire case with 14cm fans for the price of one A12 from Noctua so thats no issue.

[@Ulysses313131]

How are the idle temps below 40c? Lots of people reporting temps of 45-50c idle with air cooler, including myself with the Noctua dual fans. I'm getting 1.3x vcore on auto which results in high idle temps.

[@loudnoises4627]

Last I checked the Noctua’s NH D-15 is their biggest heatsink. Why not use that cpu cooler?

[@Sparrowc83]

It's too bad Noctua doesn't have their NH-D15 or NH-U12A with a threadripper plate to see what their best air coolers could do for performance. Always going to prefer air coolers because of the set it and forget it design. If the cooler fails, I need to replace 1 fan which is really easy.

[@jrrawlings123]

I'd like to see the dark rock pro TR4 cooler on this test.

[@pierregrobbelaar9116]

The Wraithripper goes look sweet.I actually bought a cheap 240mm cm cooler.I don't expect to keep my house cool but it does it's job on my little 2600 cpu 😁

[@MTBScotland]

not surprised they gave similar temps if they are running the same fan profiles.

[@DeadNoob451]

You do realize what "comparability" means, dont you ? The plan here is to test the coolers, not some randomly selected fan profile.

[@MTBScotland]

@@DeadNoob451 You clearly don't understand the flaws of this test at all.

[@DeadNoob451]

@@MTBScotland So, enlighten me. How would you "fix" the test then.

[@Vintage27]

Great video, very helpful!!!!!!!

[@MegaMoiz]

I would also like you guys to test the thermalright silver arrow tr4 since it doesnt have that many reviews and it is also a dual 140mm tower heat sink. Would love to see how it stacks up against those arctic and noctua coolers.

[@asf1992]

Hi there What would you suggest for an R5 3600 with max ambient of 40degrees Air: deepcool Gammaxx 400v2 or Noctua NH-U12S or NH-C14S Liquid: Antec Neptune 240RGB or Deepcool Castle 240v2 RGB?? (Looking bang for the buck performance)

[@rcald-gz5jd]

*Question for Steve* What was the total cost of the Corsair Hydro X series installed in your Threadripper 3990X? I'm asking, so that I can compare the cost against the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 w/ 2nd NF-A15 fan.

[@tobzdaman619]

How about the WraithRipper with a Noctua fan?

[@lvaruzza]

Wondering about the performance of be quiet dark rock TR4

[@KannX]

I wonder how Wraithripper would perform with Noctua NF-A12 fan? Wraithripper looks fantastic, maybe fan is just bad?

[@Teh509]

Can you please review the PG43uq... previous version is BGR subpixel layout and want to know if this still is or if it is fixable in windows to a satisfactory degree.

[@Rentta]

I wonder would wraithripper be any better with better fan. Aka how much it's the cooler design that's flawed vs fan.

[@hofnaerrchen]

Hmmm... can't say it is a big hit to the budget when the CPU is costing 4000$. In such a scenario it doesn't really matters if the cooling solution costs even 200 bucks or more when it's capable of doing the job - at approx. 100$ the Noctua is already a bargain buy.

[@smack5472]

For the Wraithripper did you turn the fan around? I found that mine was installed backwards that lead so poor temps on my 1920x after flipping it around I'm much better. Still hoping someone makes a good AIO for Threadripper had the Enermax but it clogged like all the others so went to air cooling.

[@deepfriedavocado]

There’s this big sp3 noctua that I’d like to see on the new Threadripper pro

[@ReaperX7]

CoolerMaster needs to fix the fan issues as well as use a better heat plate on the bottom. It's something they could easily fix. A copper heatplate and a better turbine or high volume static pressure fan and it'll be perfect.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Can you check out Dynatron A26?

[@CuttingEdgeRetro]

Why has this comparison not been done sooner. Cheers Steve.

[@Hardwareunboxed]

Low priority content I guess ;)

[@JGoose-oy9qo]

When overclocked corsair runs at 1500rpm what's the noise level at this rpm compared to the 1200rpm of the noctua dual fan config?

[@GSXone]

By any chance, is that high pitched sound similar to maybe jet engine or turbo spooling up? I get s sound like that when I run my nh-u14s in a push/pull config. With a single fan I don't get that.

[@GabbyTech]

That is insane of cores

[@gustavoalmeida1579]

Would be awesome to see a comparison with those coolers using Noctua fans, I wander how much of Noctua's advantage comes from their fans.

[@minimuttonchops]

I don't understand why Noctua doesn't have a TR4 version of the NH-D15...

[@rednammoc]

My guess is that they do have one somewhere in their new product development pipeline.

[@muthatruckajones3314]

To bad the wraithripper doesnt have a good contanct plate sure it would make a big diffrence.

[@marcturcotte1962]

Is fan cooling any different in performance at this size from vertical to horizontal positionning ? Not for only for TR but any CPU . These cooling sollution are so massive, what is the effect of gravity when they hang ( like the Asus 5700xt Strix ) with bad attachements ?

[@LORENZOCOLALONGO]

AIO Gigabyte Aorus Liquid Cooler - 360mm or AIO Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT - 360 mm ? I would have liked to see other AIOR compatible with sTRX4. Thanks the same great video !

[@L3nny666]

where's the bequiet dark rock pro tr4?

[@Noine14159145]

I would love to know if the wraith ripper will work better with a be quiet or Noctua fan....

[@jonathangarzon2798]

Why does everyone use the noctua 14 instead of their top of the line 15?

[@OniMirage]

It always surprises me how much people care about noise. If it's not a high pitch then fan noise rarely bothers me especially if I have headphones on or surround sound blasting.

[@ZinhoMegaman]

I still can't believe that I got my Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme S for 60 USD in Brazil, 10 USD more than a Corsair H45i. It was really a bang for my buck.

[@simorx580]

Arctic is a real winner here for its price and noctua for its cooling

[@charliek9394]

Can you try a noctua fan in the coolermaster?

[@spenmac]

I was thinking the same thing, but i think the fan in the cooler master is a slim unit.