BIG DEBATE: Traditional Leaders (Season 8 Ep 4)

[@Bavuma_]

Was a needed discusion we cant always be blaming colonialism for the harm we cause to each other.

[@qhaweqhawe8300]

Lukhanyiso Bavuma Colonialism is a root , we can't run away from that. people need to be emancipated in order to change perspectives. putting each other down is part of the divide and rule., our leaders are are also colonized. We need to decolonize the mind first in order to get our dignity back. Black consciousness.

[@Bavuma_]

Differences result to divisions and to have differences is natural

[@qhaweqhawe8300]

Lukhanyiso Bavuma U are so dumb and waste of time. You like yo argue with out facts . U sound like a child too ..so disappointing

[@BitchChocker]

Qhawe Lamaqhawe who says greed and darwinism are alien concepts to our forefathers

[@fragilehandlewithcare3967]

@@qhaweqhawe8300 colonialism is the root but capitalism is what is left behind as a hidden side effect. The constant accumulation of wealth is what makes us blind to our fellow people's problems.

[@bulelanibotman]

This was a debate that was needed but the way it was conducted such a matured debate

[@tricialino1752]

beautiful voice

[@sweetboygwazela9306]

traditional leaders has deviated from the main call ....its all about money ......look at Bantuphathekile Holomisa

[@ahmedbencamara4119]

take from the past only what is right and good for the future.

[@franklinbrown5625]

Culture and ideas evolve over time. Otherwise they become unsustainable and die. These outdated practices must go. Liberation demands change.

[@mthemburosemary498]

Iyho kanti kubuhlungu shame Mina ngadayiswa umama wami ngina 12 :years wangiganisa wayi destroy impilo Yami yonke ngisamzonda namanje

[@fragilehandlewithcare3967]

Ncese sisi. And to think that the CRL woman is defending ukuhlolwa when most of the kids who aren't virgins were probably raped but can't speak up for fear of judgement or not being believed. And yena she can talk coz she's rich and knows that her children's body autonomy doesn't have to be violated in order to be deemed worthy of the basic right to education. I know this iss in an old episode and I do hope that her views have changed for the better.

[@iloverette]

What is the name of the song Birdie was singing?

[@mihlayonke]

Why these debates are always about women...

[@phillipmojafi4616]

Mihlayonke Tembe: What makes them seem so superior, or so special. Men are also important, and are humans too!

[@fragilehandlewithcare3967]

@@phillipmojafi4616 it's because this is the only place where they feel free to voice their opinions. There wouldn't be a domestic violence and femicide problem in this country if women were listened to and taken seriously at home and in their communities. There wouldn't be high instances of rape. Our tradition states that men are supposed to protect women but there's little of that happening.

[@esethumadlavu8631]

It is because they are the most oppressed beings even way before colonialism and apartheid, our traditions and customs have been created to oppress women and this is not only African traditions but most traditions in the world even Asians and European

[@supreme7761]

Thoko Mkhwanazi is the only one using sense most of them are just giving points that support their agenda and they are being emotional using personal experience instead of being logical.

[@rezzob]

It's not a nation if you have tribal mentality. The comparison to Queen of England was really ironic, so what happened to decolonization? fyi Queen of England doesn't hold any power and it's a symbolic role

[@fragilehandlewithcare3967]

But she's still getting that coin from the taxpayers who labour on her and her family's behalf. Only for them to go around being chummy with pedophiles.

[@mthokozisisangweni-rm9lb]

Lana khona okhulumywa about anything to benefit our people,they use abomama bethu against thina amadoda to say we are not equal,yes its bad but lets build good instead of focusing ekbini,No to LGBTQ.

[@zat0076]

hahaha, cultures evolve with time, do away with the harmful part or you will perish

[@mishpigg]

get rid of bullshit and every thing will fall in place

[@silentlessons4221]

its a well documented fact that these so called healers hv exploited albinos in africa.

[@ellonnkadimeng896]

Deutornony 18 says about spirits of the dead are rebellion against the lord

[@phillipmojafi4616]

Africans are lost indeed, Is this America??? LGBTI, what the hell, Our children are our children let us teach them our own way. Thumbs up to the Minister we need a lot of such bursaries!!!

[@fragilehandlewithcare3967]

Just because you only see it on American tv doesn't mean that it was created by Americans. Even they still have anti-LGBTI views it's just that they have seen a way to profit off of it in some cases. In other cases it's because their rights are being recognised because they are legitimate. No one chooses to be gay especially in a society that hates gay or trans people. They are simply living their truths just like everybody else is supposed to and without being harrassed about it.

[@thokozanimsimanga4041]

The presenters hair syle looks like Shabba ranks, very contrary to what she is facilitating as a black African woman. Inconsistency and such a disgrace

[@Zandi33389]

You sound STUPID, SHUT UP.