Big Kibble is like Big Tobacco?...Really?

[@AnimalDocRea]

excited about the carnivore video!🍖🍖🍗🍗🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩

[@CatherineHickey-nc8tm]

The glyphosate in high processed foods, soy, wheat, legumes, is the standard American diet and is also in our dog’s kibble. Of course ingredients are key. Nutrition should not be based on a synthetic fortified vitamin & mineral pack.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@CatherineHickey-nc8tm well, I disagree with you on the vitamin/ mineral packs. They are the only way to ensure proper balance(when done right). They are the glyphosate issue I believe is a valid concern and I am not one to believe the FDA has any idea what they’re doing. It’s way out of my pay grade so I have to rely on research, not fear monger if. Until we know more I have to stay in my lane. The alternative to processed food is not a great option, based on clinical nutrition and fact. But your concern is as valid Dec one.

[@peteriwanec3472]

Our dogs reflect our society. 78% of Americans are overweight and 48% are obese. Our dogs reflect that. Just go to a dog park and you can see the number of dogs that are barely moving. Hill's has a great business in the specialty dog food market.

[@sarahwheeler52]

Funny, I’m pretty certain if my dogs were eating “McDonald’s” every day, after 8 months their blood work would showsomething bad. I feed Royal Canin, both my seniors had a full blood panel and everything came back perfect… try eating McDonald’s every day twice a day only and take blood work after 8 months and see where certain levels are, they would be out of whack I guarantee it.

[@eliharper6616]

Anecdotal, but I work on the road, and I eat McDonald's/whataburger twice, sometimes three times a day. My blood work is great, blood pressure is lower end of healthy, my resting HR is 64, etc. I'm in my 30s and I've been eating like this for almost a decade🤷

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

@@eliharper6616 excellent point that genetics has a lot to do with it. Plus you’re in your 30s. As a rep I are like that too at that age. Wouldn’t work very well now in my 60s! lol!

[@eliharper6616]

​@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy exactly. My dad is the same way possibly worse cause I've never seen him drink anything that wasn't sweet tea or alcohol lol. He's 60 now btw. He's the human version of "My dog eats Alpo and he's healthy and aging gracefully". Genetics is such an unpredictable wildcard that individual results are meaningless except to that individual. I am really appreciative of this content hardly anyone actually goes into the science of pet nutrition and why levels of certain nutrients exist or are bad/good. I am such a nerd for this kinda thing and ironically human nutrition too(which also has plenty of charlatans pitching crazy paleo and natural diets) and would love to be able to pick your brain on everything you know. I guess I'll settle for binging your channel for now. Thank you sir!🫡

[@sarahwheeler52]

@@eliharper6616 I agree, genetics do have some to do with it. It’s like saying smoking doesn’t kill because a random person here and there is 90+ and has smoked his/her whole life. That however doesn’t pertain to most, and same goes for eating fast foods all day every day. You might be ok but in general, most wouldn’t be, especially at an old age. So when both my senior dogs come back with perfect blood work, that tells me their food is working for them and not taxing their kidneys and liver etc.

[@eliharper6616]

@@sarahwheeler52 I also just talked to an 88 year old lady who outlived the Dr who told her smoking would kill her😂😂

[@AshleyKarys]

How do you buy research? ‘Small Animal Clinical Nutrition’ is a book. Companies cannot buy it? Science is the science. Particularly peer reviewed journals. You cannot fake those. Peer reviewed journals are quite literally the foundation of education. They represent the experts in any field. That’s why they’re so trusted.

[@eliharper6616]

Easily. Science requires funding. Look at some of the peer reviewed studies that Coca-Cola, Nestle(owns Purina), Mars(Iams, RC), and other corporations funded in order to influence nutrition. Remember when fats were making us fat, not sugar? Or how dairy was somehow a major food group? Etc. Now we know different(hopefully correctly), but large corporations buying scientific influence, paying to market it, and lobbying it to politicians literally influenced government food recommendations and set human nutrition back decades. You just don't realize it at the time because these corporations fund HUNDREDS of studies from various source - different universities to independent labs to in-house - to make sure their findings seem legitimate. This floods the market and marginalizes real studies into the topic. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions, but I'm pretty sure this is irrefutable at this point. I'm not saying what is said in this video is wrong, I love his content and the science is sound at the moment, but I am curious to see if animal nutrition will have the same overhaul of conventional thinking that human nutrition has in the future.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

@@eliharper6616 The North Karelia Project wasn't funded by big-agriculture or other corporate lobbyists. The Finnish government wanted to lower the cost of public healthcare when that study was being funded. You can drop your conspiracism about where the data about "fats is bad for you" comes from.

[@eliharper6616]

@@ZaryaTheLaika I think you misunderstand. I'm not saying good science isn't out there and I'm veiwing this from an American point of view. There is a reason that the American diet and life expectancy is and has been trash compared to, idk let's say, Finland, for example. That reason is that these companies have been and continue to influence science and government in negative and shady ways. Do some research into the companies listed above(it was only 2015 when Coca-Cola was rightfully called out for buying studies) or the absolutely disgusting amount of political lobbying done by the food industries in Americas and you will see exactly what I'm talking about. In recent years and decades, people have become more aware of what is going on, and changes are being made, just like they did in Europe. However, there are decades of wrong knowledge and studies to sift through to find legitimate info, which is something that you can't expect the average person to take the time to find and understand. That is the issue. That is why they flood the market with misleading information. For example: I was taught in schools my whole childhood to follow the food pyramid, after I graduated they got rid of it because it was extremely faulty, but most people I know still think that is accurate because that's what was driven into their head in school every year for over a decade. Also, that study doesnt say "fats bad" it says use in moderation and excessive trans/sat fats link to heart health rather than obesity which is what the faulty sugar vs fat studies conducted by the sugar industry were talking about. That's is where the myth that "fat makes you fat" comes from when the truth is calories in, calories out and everything in moderation. After all fats and cholesterol are needed for a proper hormone profile and healthy joints/skin/hair. Things are getting better and like I said in the previous comment I'm not arguing with him or his evaluations of dog nutrition, but we Americans are unfortunately behind the curve in matters like this and that sucks. P.S. your dog is beautiful 😍

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

@@eliharper6616 Every study about "fat bad" is directly based on the North Karelia Project. I was just asking to remove the whole "corporations are evil" from that. You would be correct in term of Nestle though since Glenn cited baby formula in his last video about hydrolyzed protein. Nestle using baby formula to get mothers to become dependent on them against advice from the United Nations is well-documented, and they did cause a lot of issues because of lack of access to clean water. I don't understand why Glenn and Dr. Rea even use baby formula as an example knowing a lot of people distrust Nestle (for legitimate reasons). Especially since those two are trying to rebuild people's trust in the kibble brands, why would anyone mention the baby formula?

[@eliharper6616]

@ZaryaTheLaika also, where do our comments keep going? I can't see any of our responses. Too long?