BIG NEWS For 2025 - Kislev Rework, NEW Total War Game Announce & More Info - Warhammer 3

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Not gonna lie I was getting ready to go to bed while my pc did updates but WOW big info tonight :) hope you guys are all doing well! Sorry for any sound issues as it's a new PC and still setting everything up!

[@Shastern87]

Glad to hear you're slowly getting better! Hope you'll be fine to enjoy the end of the year and christmas season! Thanks a lot for your content, reviews, criticism and predictions, it's fun to watch and get a grasp of what's going on in game and behind the scenes!

[@krahsm]

Get Vit D blood levels tested bro. U r sick all the time. It's computer nerd problem. U maybe in need of supplements

[@marvinvasquez9437]

I doubt that CA would implement new units from the Kislevite army roster

[@charlesrobinson7508]

Happy holidays!

[@NotNewButYork]

Good to hear you're on the mend. Get well soon, take it slow. We'll be here to hassle you again when you're ready.

[@childoftheeternalsky2382]

Reworked Kislev warms my heart!

[@Shastern87]

for the Motherland!

[@grayrook8637]

Pretty sure that's just the Vodka.

[@tahahadada1936]

We need units that can hold the line that are teir 1

[@anamericangrizzlybear8315]

Hope they add Ungol culture side of Kislev, but probably not...

[@RealCodreX]

"Death is like the winter chill ..."

[@nakaitheonlinewanderer1553]

Kislev is my main faction, so it bummed me when shadows of change was lackluster

[@alexdegreyt5267]

Same I hope CA do them Right this time

[@marvinvasquez9437]

I do hope they’ll be implemented new units from the army roster but what kind of units are they going to have been mentioned from the lore stories

[@Grooviebones]

Introducing an alternate playstyle for a faction that was fundamentally incomplete was baffling. Should have filled out the rosters holes and improved existing playstyles with supporting heroes. Ice Guard Captain Hero for one

[@marvinvasquez9437]

@@Grooviebones is another legendary hero for it, generic lord, consists of 5 units, 3 regiments of renown?

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

Tiny item i want to wishlist for game improvements (that a future historical in europe could build on) is for a pop-up to appear whenever you confederate or vassalize the last remaining faction of your race, or start your turn as the last survivor. The popup lets you choose to adopt the brand of the whole race rather than just your subfaction. Something like: [Through strength and cunning, all our people now stand united under our banner. Do we wish to proclaim as such?] [Yes][No] if yes, your faction name and banner update to that of the race. For example, Wissenland and Nuln integrate the last surviving Empire faction. And now you get a choice to declare yourself the Empire

[@Lallunalapruna123]

I get your point, but there are no main faction banners (there should) franz's banner is that of reikland, mazdamundi's banner is that of hexoatl (city of the sun)... Those banners don't represent the entirety of the faction, just the Main subfaction. But if they gave a new banner for every race that represents their entirety, that would be awesome.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

@@Lallunalapruna123 Can't they use the race select buttons for all WH2 races?

[@anthroposmetron4475]

There was a time, I think in WH2, where this was a thing with you becoming The Empire etc when certain conditions were met, though no banner change. Great suggestion and it would be very nice if it came back in a modified form.

[@legio1942]

@@anthroposmetron4475 It was a thing in Rome 2. And it gave you a new name, thought I don't remember about the flag.

[@luisaravenawerner41]

And when that happens, you can create the race banner and use it's colors in the army painter for your troops!

[@nakenmil]

I think I'll burst a vein if we never get a proper FLC rework for Boris and the Red Duke before this game ceases to be supported.

[@Spyros_Michael]

3 patches to fix that cursed Shadows of change dlc. Maybe a tzeentch flc coming alongside it at least.

[@MizzouriTiger94]

Tzeentch FLC for sure. I think they want all 4 of the monogod factions to have 3 LL.

[@wendigo7176]

Im waiting for a Free Legendary Lord for Tzeentch, Shadow of Change lacked that

[@sebastiangibson9671]

FLC Is more of a bonus so i dont think it should be a prioirty compared to the paid content like take omens its super buggy cause they took dev time away and instead focoused it on arbaal

[@strangestecho5088]

@@sebastiangibson9671 The DLC buyers are the ones paying for the development of the FLC, so neither should be lackluster.

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

@@sebastiangibson9671 so Everything should be paid content? There's a lot of old world and DLC world races that desperately need updates. You're *Asking* for focus to be around the next shiny which is part of how we got here the first place. Races get forgotten and buried for the next investor margin.

[@sephose7441]

I just want a real economy and replenishment for tzeentch

[@willfeen]

definitely. Tzeentch only having 2 LLs sticks out like a sore thumb

[@raphaelantoine7331]

Neferata and nagash dlc coming out in 2039

[@tubach1082]

Along with THANQUOL

[@liamcullen3035]

Nefarata could be coming alongside Slaanesh.

[@raphaelantoine7331]

@liamcullen3035 but probably not before 2 or 3 years

[@twiztidnoodle]

And egrimm van horstmann

[@michasalamon8315]

I know it’s kinda fool’s hope, bur I was always hoping for Werebears for Kislev, chekists to return to the canon as security guards instead of now retconned secret police, and Ivan Radinov to also be made canon again, just maybe make him a bastard or half brother so that he cannot rival Katarina for the position of tsar. Other than that, I Wonder if new DLC will give us a new faction like Kuresh, Araby, Southern Realms, Nippon, Tilea/Estalia, or even complete wild card and give Us South Pole Chaos Penguin Empire.

[@Mikalent]

Kislev could use a rework, but there are far more factions that desperately need a DLC sized rework more than Kislev, specifically Norsca, Vampire Counts, Brittonia, and Vampire Coast. As for new races, maybe, Maybe, MAYBE, Ind, as they have added settlements to that area, and CA typically only does that if they are going to add something to that area, but frankly, I doubt it is for a new race. Most likely that area will be an new LL Spawn point so Nikai and Gelt have something to oppose. My guess would be that it'll be a new Slaanesh LL spawn point.

[@Weberkooks]

no the all of the new races. They would be awesome but CA doesnt make dlc for races that games workshop has no intention of creating.

[@Scarycrow89]

@@Weberkooks Then why did they make Norsca ? It was never an official army, right?

[@mrhelzbygrad7485]

I really want 6ed and WHFRP Realm of the Ice Queen Kislev, obviously happy with updates but that includes Frostfiends, droyaska etc. I never really liked Chekkist, but I do wish Akshina had cavalry akin to Oprichnyna.

[@michasalamon8315]

@@mrhelzbygrad7485 weren't Oprichnyna basically Ivan the Terrible's terror squad he sent to kill, arrest and loot anything and anyone he even slightly suspected of not being 100% obedient to him? I think armoured cossaks or even ungol units as small sub faction would be better for light cavalry for kislev. But I do agree that having frostfiends and more magical/monster units than just bears and forest spirits would be nice. Kislev is right next to the chaos sea, to the point the land itself is soaked with magic. there should be much more monster creatures there. Also, give kislev a unique beastmen enemy like nomadic horse beastmen, beastmen with heads of horses who can use bows and run. would be thematic, and you could compare them to golden horde or mongol raiders for their lore and units.

[@roland228]

A Kislev rework? Norsca, Vampire Counts, Lizardmen and Bretonnia should be higher priority.

[@slowmoe1686]

I don't know if I agree. Kislev is a Warhammer 3 specific race and it is basically unplayable right now. I feel Warhammer 3 races should be fixed before Warhammer 1 and 2 races. Also isn't Vampire Counts ok where it is?

[@zacaritest]

​@@slowmoe1686If you're telling me Kislev is unplayable, you definitely don't know the current state of Norsca xd

[@Costin_Gaming]

I think it makes sense for them to finish SoC as a DLC first then worry about those, mind they DID announce all those races too before.

[@alexdegreyt5267]

I think a Kislev Rework is needed more than those races as Kislev is a Base game WW3 race it will add to the value of WW3 not by much but still important

[@kotarokatzura5938]

Ngl I love Kislev but Norsca and Bretonnia desperately needs an update

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

Slaanesh was probably early in dev when the SoC storm hit. It made them rethink thrones and find places to improve SoC. I suspect a Khorne DLC is simply easier than Slaanesh, so they kicked that to the back to make more room in the year. Looking forward to SoC v3, Slaanesh, and if i get my way a race pack 2025.i think that would be enough. As to new games, i really want to see them do medieval. It's such a rich age.

[@alphshift7857]

what race would it be tho?

[@IlFraPlays]

@@alphshift7857 Dogs of War with high probability

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

@alphshift7857 my bet? either Kuresh or more likely, dogs.

[@MrBentalton777]

They already did medieval twice though. Also next title is almost certainly 40k with wh3 nearing it's end

[@Sylvester4571]

​@MrBentalton777 I will be impressed if they do Warhammer 40K. I hope another medieval time period with today's mechanics will be a great total war game. We will see how they are though

[@smorphous8928]

It’ll be nice to see Bretonnia and Norsca get the Spotlight they deserve. Considering they’ve never gotten any sort of change since warhammer 2.

[@anon_234]

If 40k is coming, I wonder if it will coincide with Henry Caville's 40k TV show when it comes to release dates?

[@BlizzardAcolyte]

5:27 "THANK FUCK" cracked me up...the comedic effect was probably augmented slightly by how much fun I'm having with my 1st Skarbrand campaign, though

[@Amenema]

Based on what we got for Khorne & Nurgle i think it’s safe to assume the cult rework would come with the Tzeentch update as well as improvements to their Unholy Manifestations. If we’re lucky they’ll also improve Kairos’ shards so the entire gimmick of picking him is more useful. If a miracle is performed we’ll get FLC Egrimm

[@drafezard7315]

Huh? CA reworked cults for all 4 mono gods in the same update already...

[@arthurpalha4605]

No blood pack? holly fucking shit

[@furryboy80]

I hadn't seen anyone complain about the sound guy. Personally I found what he had to say very interesting. Sound is one of those parts of a game that if done badly will ruin a game but if done well often doesn't get mentioned.

[@liamcullen3035]

I also thought the peak at sound and foley was really great

[@TheOriginalFishPond]

Not going to lie. Blood pack, and day 1 dlc removal i was not expecting. If they're genuine about putting the customers, community, franchise and legacy before money and they keep on with those changes, I may finally have hope for CA and change my negative steam rating.

[@RealCodreX]

Do not change it because the last half decend game CA made was Shogun!

[@Alex254561]

What I learned with CA: never pre order or day one their game Wait 2-3 years they fix a lot of things and buy the game at 30€ or less I have no interest for a total war 40k, even if i like warhammet, at this point Good luck CA

[@DerSteppenwolf1979]

Nice try, shill

[@drafezard7315]

Is the past 12 months not evidence enough?

[@drafezard7315]

@@RealCodreX Lmao the "last half decent game" was the first TW they ever made? Which released almost 25 years ago. Worst troll ever.

[@miharu654]

I think my biggest problem with some of the new bugs that got introduced was the fact some of it, like the problem with monstrous units could have been easily caught by one of the devs just playing the game for a few minutes and noticing they weren't performing right. so they still seem to be using players as a coalmine canary.

[@Caldwing]

I mean, I heard about those bugs before playing 6.0, but honestly I had an ogre campaign (which is obviously mostly monstrous infantry) going for quite some time and noticed nothing out of the ordinary. I think it really only affected a few units and specific unit match-ups in a really bad way. Like that's still a significant bug to slip through, but I for sure would never have known about it if I had not read about it.

[@miharu654]

@@Caldwing ya know what thats fair. I mostly play those silly french knigits myself so i heard of the bug second hand.

[@blackwoodknight4913]

FLC isn't needed for each DLC launch Norsca, Bretonnia etc... old game factions that NEED an overhaul to actually have mechanics that work for 3 instead of the first game they were made with could just come with an overhaul no new lords and I'd be happy, Norsca faction, Bretonnia Mechanics, Wulfheart in Lustria, Cult of Ulric for Todd and make him a LL to start with, Aranessa Saltspite from the Vampire coast, Skaven pelage mechanics etc...

[@Magesty77]

Was that a cringe “war on Christmas” reference at the end? lol I guess I’m not surprised.

[@feasibilyheretical]

I'm still praying we will get a flc tzeech lord, I am not a fan of the Changeling and Kairos has a horrible start position. But I like tzeech as a faction.

[@GetFochD]

This

[@nosir5596]

It seems unlikely but I hope the further Shadows of Change improvements also bring us a Tzeentch FLC lord to bring them up to parity with Nurgle and Khorne.

[@theacut]

Chances they'll pull Ostankya out of Naggarond?

[@noticemesenpie69]

Now that you mentioned it, hopefully a single province somewhere in kislev area Coz im my game choft and chaos factions dominates kislev but atleast on the empire side they got goldflag

[@devinphillips8085]

and put her where? I can see them putting her in Cathay or something but I think shes fine where she is.

[@benderbendingrodriguez6375]

Also give her the un nerfed version of the akshina ambushers.

[@prag449]

"Getting Warhammer III right for everyone" means that Warhammer 3 is going to end very soon in PR speak.

[@Caldwing]

I'm sure you're right in that they will stop releasing DLC for it when whatever their next big thing is comes out. Probably near the end of 2025. But I imagine there would still be a slow trickle of low effort patches. Plus it will be modded to the limits of creation for years.

[@vincebat]

A FLC for Cathay would be so good I need another Dragon Lord (Imrik soul is in my body).

[@Caldwing]

I am in equal parts excited and trepidatious about the prospect of Total War 40k because there are many scenarios where I can see this being a disaster: Total War has historically been a grand strategy game with battles at an army vs army scale with large formations of infantry with primitive weapons. Terrain is a factor but buildings are just obstacles and you can't go inside them. 40K is a futuristic setting with small, squad level battles where individual soldiers are given orders. Terrain, cover, and building interiors are crucial to 40k. There are no rows of soldiers blasting each-other in fields after the 19th century. So they have no choice but to either deviate from the previous Total War formula, or to deviate from the core elements of 40k. If they try to cram 40k into something where the battles still look like Total War, it's going to be awful. Rows of Space Marines standing stock still blasting each-other in the open. So they HAVE to make something that really isn't a Total War game anymore, it just has that name. It could be an absolutely amazing game but they will have to be bold enough to redefine what Total War can be. I think the sweet spot would be a bit of a blend, with a grand strategy map comprising a single, important, multi-planet system with many factions vying for control for whatever reason. The combat should in the spirit of Squad Leader/the Close Combat series. Company level battles on maps with all kinds of terrain and with multi-story buildings. You command some individual units (heavy armour, etc) and characters and some squads of 4-8. The battles therefore are not meant to be a portrayal of all the combat that is happening, which would involve millions and millions of people, but just a representative battle at a smaller scale that is used to decide the fate of that engagement. Similarly, when you build an army, you are really just building a Company (maybe 100-200 soldiers) that is a scaled down representation. This is exactly how the Close Combat series treated your progress in the larger conflict. Each planet in the system can have its own world map with some mechanic for landing invasions. You could even make it so heroes can engage in special operations and you could do like commando style missions to cause certain effects. It would also be super easy to MacGuffin some reason to have a big back-log of inaccessible planets in the system that slowly become unlocked as factions and DLC are added. And my god, they could actually add naval battles back to Total War!! But now in Space! It's almost too much to hope that this will happen though, at least initially. Maybe an expansion or something. Doesn't seem like there's going to be any more Armada games so GW might throw those eggs in CA's basket.

[@PrincessStabbityPLS]

One thing I would love for Kislev is some artillery and/or grenade units. Little Grom does the job it's designed for (taking down big single entities) but I feel like there's room for anti-infantry options too. Little Grom with explosive shells? Sled-mounted mortars/rocket launchers? I don't know any of the lore so forgive me if I'm speaking heresy >.

[@HansAlRachid]

That Kislev rework announcement as separate from whatever DLC plans they have is genuinely great to hear - I really hope that smaller Tzeentch rework they mention will be impactful as well, but of the SoC factions Kislev needs the most attention for sure. Tzeentch at least has a functional set of mechanics as such, whereas like half the Kislev LLs get practically nothing out of their mechanics. Also, good lord, only took them over a decade, but finally those goddamn blood packs are disappearing!

[@shaner1912]

Was thinking to myself I hope Nathan is ok after nurgle got to him. Glad to see your new vid bud. I have to argue that it’s a hope that it’s total war 40k, not a confirmation. Your jumping the gun cause rumours also said we would have the monkey king, nagash and thanquol by now too. Temper expectations with facts. I hope it is too just fyi, but we need to wait and see

[@biocraft8979]

I have one question i was playing a nurgle campaign yesterday when i whon a settlement battle the options for saking,loot and occupie, raise to the ground the rewards where only gold their was no replenishment % nor any infections.

[@drewgilbertson]

I hope Kislev finally gets a Tier 2 siege unit. Just put a mortar in a war sled and call it good!

[@grayrook8637]

I will give CA this: keep it up. The direction is good and like what you are doing. Gove Tzeentch a FreeLC lord, and I would love to see a custodian team to work on other Total War titles like how Stellaris does. The die hards who own everything you have ever made deserve attention to those not Totalwarhammer games.

[@CrimsonLord224]

The new title on the horizon seems to signal the end of support for warhammer 3 is coming for me. I think we’ll get maybe 2-4 DLC left at our current pace before they leave the title behind. That will probably look like slaanesh dlc, dogs of war, end times.

[@sebastiangibson9671]

well what about pharaoh that was a new game and it didnt really spell the end for 3

[@rogerwaters3776]

​@@sebastiangibson9671 Not comparable to 40k or Medieval. Those would become the flagship titles.

[@vshark7869]

Slaanesh, Dogs of War, Monkey King, End Times

[@jamesmcdonnell240]

The support thing is imo the biggest kislev problem. Boris doesn’t have justification for playing in such an aggressive start which can be fixed with unique mechanics like skraag and gelt got and the only issue for ostankya is you can’t get non dlc units until you befriend one of the 3 major cities

[@hyena3028]

Since they plan to rework the featured Shadows of Change races I hope they redo the akshina ambushers as they were supposed to be the elite police of Kislev so it doesn't make sense they're dressed like barbarians of the woods. Maybe create a new tier 3-4 unit with the same name and simply rename the current one to rangers or something. Would be a bonus if they change the weapons to proper bows too.

[@TFAric]

So around this time next year we will hear about the next game? A bit of a wait but okay. Overall good news

[@ninon.91]

What’s about your high elves prediction for the next dlc?

[@misterepf]

I just jumped back into the game and noticed an issue with unit dragging where when I release them it cancels the orientation I wanted and moves the order to where my mouse was when I release click. I haven't found any solutions yet and was wondering if anyone here had some answers?

[@godskitten49]

I severely doubt they can deliver a 40k game that could stand on its own legs if 40k as a setting didn't exist, I genuinely think they require a WW1 game to develop and test major campaign and battle technologies and systems that 40k would also need, far before 40k starts development (and as such its hard to be hyped for its potential release)

[@Crucial_End]

Good to see them planning to take another look at SoC races again. What I would really like to know is how much future support and reworks are planned. There are still so many factions who needs attention I would even go as far to say that they need to take another look at Greenskin heroes especially goblin ones despite the recent patch. I used to buy every DLC now I dont buy any untill they are either all released and dirt cheap as a bundle incase CA stops support before finishing the game or if CA lets us know if they intend to polish all the factions before moving on then I would start buying DLC again.

[@Tomezilla514]

Interesting. I've never heard anyone have problems with the Total War launcher and I quite like it compared to others, so I don't personally see the need for that change. But sure, less hoops to jump through is good but we'll still have to fiddle with mods somehow.

[@kapitankapital6580]

It's just an unnecessary screen, and hopefully it allows them to give us a proper mod manager with presets

[@Quadnt]

so Kislev, a Game 3 Faction, gets a Rework sooner then Norsca, what was playable in Game 1?

[@SanguineGamer]

Kislev getting a rework before game one races that have needed it sense game 1 hurts my soul.

[@victorwilliams357]

Merry Christmas grudges!

[@user-br4qp4pw2o]

Ohhh so they gonna tell us that they starting a 40.000k Total War? So Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Bretonia and monke Norsca gonna get UPDATES some 5 years later by the speed of their pregress HOPEFULLY!

[@HeliostheEnthusiast]

I can appreciate the fact that they didn't just do the additional content for SOC and just call it quits. Additional updates to Kislev, Cathay and Birdman are welcome.

[@hirannes2217]

Merry Christmas, indeed!

[@marcinstrzelczyk2758]

Finally! Kislev really needs this. I'm really hoping for a legendary flc lord from warhammer 1. I literally always use a mod with him, no matter what faction I play. And please, please give us a free artillery unit or infantry with axes, rifles and a longer range. ;'D

[@mrbjorndekker]

I guess there will be a shogun 2 rework in high res.

[@MsSirAndy]

you mean a remastered?

[@frangarcia7661]

If they end up releasing Engrim as FLC for Tzeentch, what CA can try is give another Great Demon for every monogod faction; Kabanda for Khorne and Sarthorael for Tzeentch, idk about the other two but think about it... (ulkair belongs to 40k or fantasy?)

[@Captain_Mckeggor]

This is a HUGE W for creative assembly. Super eager about the Kislev rework.

[@anthroposmetron4475]

Is the Kislvev "Update/rework" just going to be literally them making some fucking sense of Ostankya's campaign?

[@reeceshugrue6167]

There is only one IP which 100% requires a higher age rating than usual, Warhammer 40k.

[@EkL149]

Kislev one of my favorite factions to play as. Can't wait to see what changes they've got in store.

[@immaculate5784]

If 40K is coming then I hope it has Space Battles as well and thus a very large map similar to what Stellaris has. If they do that then that may mean the next Historical Title is Empire II as Naval Battles and Space Battles could be done in similar fashion. Plus working on projectiles works for both titles too. Its an efficient combo.

[@Tejbegrizzly]

I still believe that the Slaaneesh DLC will be coupled with a Bretonnian and a Norscan lord/rework. That would make more sense updating wise than the elves and they could use one more update. If anything this update showed us that they don't need to have a connection to eachother and i am actually fine with that!

[@fringer6]

I'd love to see them add Daniel to the Kislev fixes. His focus should have been Chaos Ungol/Kislevite units, with a focus on conquering Kislev. Maybe some way to piggyback on the Kislevite Civil War mechanic.

[@basedggallin4556]

Creative Assembly is actually really impressing me with their approach to Total War now

[@ErtaiCZ]

So many years and still no Marius Leitdorf...

[@isaacplanas4948]

Makes averland creat again!

[@Spyros_Michael]

Did they say Engrim is gonna be dlc only? If so, are there other tzeentch characters we could see as flc lords alongside the new shadows of change patch?

[@KnightInFlames1]

I want more kislev, been putting off playing them in wait for a rework to boris or a new LL. Hope this update comes soon!

[@NotNewButYork]

This is a good place as any to leave my "end of year"-thoughts on TWWH3 Another go-over for Kislev and Tzeentch is very welcome, but also means that they probably have no further plans for these factions. Von Horstmann entering the rink (as the Tzeentch mortal) during the celebration is possible and very welcome. I can't imagine them being done with Cathay though (because we have the Tigermen leaks and the Monkey King is a given).

[@yukikochanchan3123]

waiting for that Kislev "update" Kislev being the Karl Franz empire campaign of TWW3 really need to be good and engaging for new players get hooked.

[@alharron2145]

7:45 "Oh my God! Did I die?!"😂 sure hope not Nathan!

[@rogue7744]

I honestly think this is one of the best and honest dev teams I’ve ever seen. Makes me feel good about buying whatever they put out, mainly bc they care, which is awesome.

[@robinekhoodekful]

Every Total War requires blood, that frickin "IF" is a problem, bc they just don't commit!

[@marekbenda2168]

I'm stunned every time I click your videoes how you can talk so fast, you sound completely great.

[@MsSirAndy]

'We also look to the past as we celebrate our storied catalogue of releases, journeying through each title that has been released since 2000.' Wait wait! Does that mean more TW remasters are about to come next year? What do you think guys? Any hope?

[@xHarra81x]

CA's "what's next" is great! I hope they will continue with that

[@asdflol2222]

Total war 40k? I doubt it, how would the campaign map even look like? Empty space with different planets all around?

[@bjorn-falkoandreas9472]

DUDE! They are burying the lede hard. The SoC change is more than welcome. And they are being honest with their reasoning. Basically they are re-launching SoC so that its sales catch up. Good for us and a solid way to finance the work they put into it. This sounds like a major change to Kislev and minor changes to Cathay. If the goal is to bring SoC up to the standard set by the this DLC or even ToD, then I am here for it. This should also buy them time for the next DLC. This makes so much sense for them and for their teams and for us. That is an impressively solid management decision.

[@boop2908]

Why get weird about "Happy Holidays"?

[@zendeman]

Yeah, that was bizzare of Nathan, hard to imagine he doesn't know that there are different celebrations at this time of the year.

[@PNarbz123]

40K is definitely coming, my guess is Imperium, Orks, Eldar, Chaos, Space Marines to start. Come oooooooon Ghazghkull!

[@sethperry5730]

I still don't really understand how that would work in a total war setting? Wouldn't they have to radically change how the game plays to show the more fluid warfare that comes with almost everyone having an autorifle?

[@drafezard7315]

@@sethperry5730 Well I'd say they radically had to change it for Warhammer Fantasy already.

[@sethperry5730]

@@drafezard7315 I mean yeah adding magic added a bit of a whole new layer, but how units move and how sieges work is still mostly the same just with some new elements. But take Sieges for example, you can't do them as they are now and have it translate well into sci-fi. Walls mean nothing in that kind of warfare.

[@ruas4721]

@@drafezard7315 not even close to the changes they have to make for 40k. It has to be full with off-field abilities and sychronized combat on the ground, in the air and in the orbit. Also we talk about long range bombardement with artillery, intercontinental weapons, titans, planet killing stuff and so on. Its way bigger and crazier than everything fantasy has to offer.

[@drafezard7315]

@@sethperry5730 It's not just magic. (Which in itself includes a whole host of new features like summons, healing, nets, etc.) There's flying units. Single entity units. Factions like Orges being made up primarily of units with way fewer numbers. Some factions having way looser unit formations. More advanced weaponry/technology then any previous game like literal tanks and helicopters. Certain factions getting buffs in certain types of terrain. Army abilities. I could go on. Like yeah sure, some more changes will be required. But at this point Warhammer Fantasy has more in common to 40k then it does to most historical TW's.

[@Bobrob1597]

The only Kislev news I want is them getting an Old World faction like how we were originally promised

[@mtbeast28]

I don’t understand the part about getting rid of the launcher. I like the launcher and how it lets me manage my mods.

[@feasibilyheretical]

They specifically said there would still be a mod manager.

[@chalzen1012]

I really hope warhammer 3 is complete before 40k comes out.... becuase if you think the arguments between TW History vs TWW is bad wait till you see fantasy vs 40k

[@jdborisov474]

40к мусор, покупать я ее не намерен

[@devinphillips8085]

thankfully we wont get a total war 40k. it just wouldn't work lol

[@sebastiangibson9671]

@@jdborisov474 well my g All i have to say to that is i wish you find yourself in Commaragh good sir

[@igorwisniewski9412]

That spin on blood packs is interesting, though more interesting is what TW may not count as "thematical" for inclusion of blood. Though I will be honest: I wasn't bothered much by blood packs, they weren't expensive after all. Though since I got one for Shogun 2 (which was I believe first blood pack in TW history) I just couldn't play TW game without it and waiting some weeks before they release it for new game was annoying. Also, next hotfix is in beta branch and fixes Skulltaker's insane exploits.

[@randyf25]

I play Kislev a lot. Hoping boyars get reworked into the civil war, give us a streltsi lord.

[@DuWha]

Wow what a huge win that for the future of all games no more blood packs for purchase, literally biggest change for me right there that’s awesome good one CA, also breaking up shadow of change is also a really good idea as well

[@ruas4721]

I realy like how they started to communicate more with the people. I believe they learned their lesson, unlike other companies like Ubisoft, Blizzard and so on. And i realy realy REALY hope we dont get 40k Total War, most likely it will suck so bad at delivering the feeling of the universe. I just want a real historical title, Medieval 3 or Rome 3 or even Empire 2 (even if i realy dislike the epoche)

[@zendeman]

9:40 @TheGreatBookofGrudges You are aware there are more different holidays, than Christmas going on at this time of the year?

[@kapitankapital6580]

Do people say "happy holidays" during March because Ramadan is going on? Do they say it in April when Vaisakhi is going on? No, of course not. In the West, these are the Christmas holidays because they're based around Christmas. The only reason anybody says "happy holidays" is to erase Christian culture. That a British company is engaging in this erasure is disgraceful, and GBOG was right to call it out, if only in passing.

[@zendeman]

@kapitankapital6580 They wrote Happy Holidays, to wish everyone a happy time during this time of they year. Writing Merry Christmas is straight up disrespectful to all people who celebrate other believes, unless you list them all (good luck). Is it really that hard to comprehend? Or do you just always play the victim, where everything anyone does is aimed against you?

[@michaelmiller6817]

​@kapitankapital6580 my guy Hanukkah, Yule, Saturnalia existed before Christmas. There is no "Christian" erasure. You don't see Jews losing their minds if you say Merry Christmas. It's a nothing issue brought about by a culture war to distract from a class war. Literally the only time Christmas was banned was by Christian puritans because it was too pagan (sorta like it was tacked on to existing pagan holidays to appeal to potential converts). This is meant to be a time of celebration (of many cultures and faiths) of togetherness and human spirit in the coldest darkest time of the year. The self proclaimed "war on Christmas" is as non existent as it is obnoxious, and whole hardedly spits in the face of the holiday itself. Merry Christmas!

[@devinphillips8085]

and?

[@kapitankapital6580]

@@zendeman except they don't write "happy holidays" at any other time of the year. Why? Are there not holidays throughout the year in different cultures? Is it not disrespectful to ignore these cultures every other month of the year, or only in the Winter? The only reason this comment is being made is because it is the Christmas holidays. By taking "Christmas" out of the statement they are explicitly erasing Christian culture. It's not "insulting" to other cultures to say merry Christmas, just as it isn't insulting to Christians if an Indian company signs off with "happy Diwali" or to French people if an American company signs off with "happy independence day" on the 4th July. This is cultural erasure, plain and simple, and it is wrong.

[@SanguineJoker-do9rf]

Credit where's credit due. This is great reflection from CA. Let's hope they keep it. The shadows of dlc race rework is definitely exciting and will bring value to the dlc.

[@andarara-c1p]

I hope Kislev gets light cannons (like the ones in Cataph´s mod) which fits them and I believe they deserve another artillery cannon unit. But it saddens me the next Total War game comes as it will stop the support of this game...and someday I would love to see Ind and Khuresh (never lose the hope)

[@raynightshade8317]

Not necessarily. They went back to Rome 2 after Atilla

[@arthurdaffos1490]

40k tw reveal next year? Maybe but i bet it will still be in development for a long time afterwards if that is the case

[@garryame4008]

This is rad! I'm looking forward to the updates for Kislev! What do you lot think should change for Kislev?

[@viperarum5538]

@@garryame4008 well that they are replaced by Norsca i guess ^^

[@Lallunalapruna123]

Most of kislevs unique mechanics suck. The supoorters race is a pain to complete, the ice court is just 7 turns to get what others can recruit instantly for with a mild buff. The atamans are not engaging and are just a background bonus. Their income building is one of the most expensive and has one of the worst incomes at the same time... Its been months since I play kislev tho, probably Im forgetting something.

[@reaperking2121]

Base nation mechanics as the other dude has said need a rework . It’s really really crippling when you only have 3 cities which provide your entire income . Other then that they desperately need more siege artillery . The Little Grom is nice but it doesn’t cut it on its own . I usually have to Allie the empire or dwarves to give my armies that long range punch

[@pipebomber04]

My wishlist total war titles: 1. Pike and shot (extended to china and japan) 2. Wh40k 3. Halo wars

[@capjacksparrow12]

Honestly I'm not excited by a Total Warhammer 40k. If it comes and is good, then great I will be pleasantly surprised. I just feel like Total War is not the style to translate a more tactical based game like 40k without huge overhauls to their whole system, to the point it wont feel like Total War anymore. I would much rather Sega dug up Dawn of War from the hole it was banished too after 3 under performed, put people with the same passion as the current Warhammer 3 devs have and give it another title. We are currently in a boom period of Warhammers popularity, and they are sitting on one of the most popular series to ever come out of the IP.

[@robbstark8275]

I'd like to see a grand strategy in wh40k setting. With let's say a sector given to us. With population, economy, army and fleet management, and full-scale battles with millions of units.

[@bonejuice4280]

We need a Norca, dark elf, Slnesh DLC

[@abad-enoughdude._.3919]

Based Nathan. Merry Christmas!

[@f1sherman52]

For me a Kislev rework is a must, so I am glad we are going to get them in a better state.

[@jacobrussula5672]

They're revisiting SoC? Hopefully this means Engrimm will finally be included alongside Tzeentch rework.

[@nakenmil]

I've never used the Blood Pack because it makes the battlefield look like someone spilled tomato soup everywhere, it's silly rather than immersive, honestly.

[@feasibilyheretical]

As long as we get a proper end times dlc and full map expansion before 40k ill be happy.

[@csdrt20]

Just put the bloody chat back in the game and fix the multiplayer leaderboard. And do some events/seasons for multiplayer. Then I will consider it a good game again.

[@Gtrem-ki1ct]

Surely they will update Vlad the Chad next year

[@jtoegi]

I want a new historical so bad but I know there is like zero chance right now

[@purpledragonofhonor2193]

whats wrong with happy holidays?

[@VargVikernes1488]

Which holidays?

[@purpledragonofhonor2193]

@ huh?

[@abad-enoughdude._.3919]

It's lame cuckery. Merry Christmas is the way.

[@raynightshade8317]

TK and Counts need help. Lizarmen deapite the massive amount of content they got still need a campaign rework. They gave a FLC lord Wolfeica mechanic and rhrogg need all the trolls and a voiceline update

[@skywalker6119]

Does "thematically requires blood" mean the next game will be Total War: Muppets or Total War: 40k Miniatures? Is there ANY Total War where you could say, thematically, it doesn't require blood? "Oh, Total War: Empire really shouldn't have had blood because the scale at which people were fighting is so far apart you wouldn't have seen the blood on enemy soldiers?"