BIG OTC Changes in Colorado THIS YEAR! | CO Application Strategy

[@dannysimpson9472]

It’s about time they finally did this. Things were getting out of hand in Colorado with too many out of state licenses issued. Residents have been getting squeezed for too long.

[@mackdude911]

Own your own land and you wouldn’t have to cry about this. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ELRas53]

Virtually EVERY resident in EVERY state feels this way....just a fact of hunting life

[@robertsmith908]

As a CO resident I like the idea of less people, it really has gotten way out of hand. I also hate the state govt though.

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

I hear ya on both counts

[@jimrice4699]

Well said. Wolves aren't going to help any, are they?

[@jamesjahnke5721]

I wish Minnesota would raise non resident license fees. For to long time other states have been screwing out of stater's. Minnesota needs to wake up and join the party 🦌

[@JrL25]

completely agree. way too many non res hunters and has almost ruined hunting in the state. CPW only concern is making money and could care less about hunter success for res hunters

[@mackdude911]

@@JrL25 purchase your own land and you wouldn’t have to cry about this.. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Baldorado]

Glad for changes as a Colorado native. Sick and tired of the mountains being a “Pumpkin Patch” during hunting seasons. You can hardly walk out of your hunt camp without bumping into another hunter.

[@craigholliday]

me too!

[@chadh7005]

Absolutely facts. I've almost stopped hunting. I live in craig its insane.

[@deerlayer6155]

Yep. Coloradans should be able to hunt in our home state without severe competition from non residents. Love the changes for license allocation and was involved in all of the CPW surveys. I hope they continue to decrease non resident license allocation!

[@chadh7005]

@@deerlayer6155 I'd go one step further and make non residents draw only.

[@jimrice4699]

I didn't hear any changes that will change that...what did I miss?

[@davidblalack5015]

Thanks Randy. Your information is invaluable.

[@coloradocatchcleanandcook3426]

Just put in my tags two days ago. As a meat hunter I applied for leftover tags I felt gave me the best odds of getting meat in the freezer. I shared this out in both my FB hunting groups thanks for the video guys.

[@thecoloradoalpine]

Thank god. About time we have some changes! Unlimited OTC is absolutely outrageous. I would gladly pay more, or hunt less, if it meant the experiences were richer and not filled to the brim with orange or every Tom, Dick, and harry blowing on bugle tubes in archery. About time. Just saying

[@joeyelton407]

I agree....this change will help deer hunters the most.

[@mackdude911]

Own your own land and you wouldn’t have to cry about this🤷🏽‍♂️

[@thecoloradoalpine]

@@mackdude911 apply that option to ALL out of staters then! Lmao Y’all hunt your own land too then lmao

[@chrisoffersen]

Honestly, this is what hunting is all about: the art of getting tags. …or paying someone who can. I’m over it.

[@2blastmaster]

I here u but that’s wat they want that being said im not partaking

[@JasonDay-zu3kx]

I’m with ya! After 36 years I’m done playing the games and giving them money! Hope they can make a living off checking fishing licenses.

[@chrisoffersen]

@@WesternReaper84 With the way non-residents drive/behave around here, I'm ok with that. Edit: Honestly, the ones who stand out (on the road, anyway) are Texans. Are there still laws down there? People act kinda goofy about legal cannabis, which is funnier than it is annoying. Wealthy people seem to pride themselves on being complete dillweeds no matter where they're from (is this how money is made these days? By being awful?). Other than that, it's just good ole American folks who want to enjoy their great country, which is 100% welcome in my book, whether you're bringing money or not. Just pick up your trash.

[@justinlewis8889]

There are a lot of whiny babies in these comments. Lol

[@YELLOWTA93]

Thank you guys for making this video every hunter needs ti make some noise about this!

[@loyweaver3640]

I live in Colorado and used to hunt here. Getting to be BS trying to draw a tag anymore so I give up on Colorado. Now hunt Missouri and have more fun and better chances of success.

[@ectorreza9616]

Even with all the people here and all the non-residents Colorado surpasses any state in hunting elk and mule deer. So you do you . Colorado is number one for hunting .

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

Good breakdown of CO

[@mikey50469]

Randy, please do a video on CWD in Colorado, particularly NE Colorado. I have heard the DOW has been executing deer with assumed CWD. Massive impacts seen on the plains. I personally knew 6 hunters that shot deer with alleged CWD but have never seen it in the field.

[@wildchild795]

This needs WAYYYY more attention and discussion but it is a slippery slope because of the potential implications of federal or state oversight and more importantly, overreach. We do not want to be told we can’t hunt certain areas, but if we don’t get a handle on CWD, there are going to be enormous issues down the road

[@FlyingVFan]

Thank you for the accurate information Randy! Been seeing a lot of doom and gloom/clickbait stuff about this, getting all types of information. You are always on point!

[@brucemose4079]

Hey Randy, u haven't told us all ur comments between the Ford u r driving and the Nissan u used to drive? How different r they?

[@mollybug9325]

Out fitters are setting up camps right in the middle of some of the best prime areas and getting preference over residence. I am saying right in the middle of Game trails.

[@GontltsufOgrpwr]

Outfitters have designated sites set up by parks and wildlife. It’s illegal for outfitters to set camps wherever they want

[@russellkeeling4387]

When Colorado combined the Parks and Wildlife departments changing it from the Division of Wildlife to Colorado Parks and Wildlife it all became about money. The state is passing gun control laws right and left yet there are adds all over U Tube about CPW and all the money it brings to the State. Eight dollars per application just to apply, it has risen from three dollars. Game wardens used to be biologists with six years of education now they are just more cops wanting to write those tickets and get that money. Game wardens used to be members of the community looking out for the wildlife with the help of the community. Not so much any more.

[@thehuntingtruth]

Good content for sure, but Randy really should stress how INSANELY overpopulated Colorado is these days with hunters. It's not mentioned but Colorado allocates over 84000 elk tags and over 77000 deer tags during the first draw cycle alone. Colorado doesn't release the number of OTC elk tags bought every year but it far surpasses what is given out in the draw. You're better off buying half a cow from a custom butcher and watching Randy's hunting videos on KZbin and you'll actually save money (no joke) and you won't have to deal with entitled mountain bikers or dangerous hunters holding a high powered rifle for the first time. Not to mention the license revenue generated from hunters is going directly to pay for wolf reintroduction. That's a hard pill to swallow. Sorry Colorado, you're not getting my out of state money anymore.

[@shanedupont9116]

Randy is the reason Colorado is overpopulated with hunters. He’s been telling the world to go to Colorado cuz it’s the “easiest state to be able to elk hunt in” He is at the top of the list as one of the reasons that all the western states are now overcrowded. Randy is responsible for the ruination of western hunting.

[@jfreak7589]

​@@shanedupont9116your right!

[@drewcollins77]

@@shanedupont9116yep. KZbin and OnX ruined everything.

[@dereklindberg6391]

Do you guys hunt out of state at all? Cuz if you do you're a bunch of hippocrates. Who cares if there are out of state hunters all over sure does it kinda suck running into other hunters but that is part of the game sure it sucks a little bit but it sucks just as much running into local hunters. What pisses me off most about hunting now is all the greed everyone has "this is my spot, these are my animals, why did you shoot that should've let it go" etc etc. Just enjoy the hunt and hunt and shoot the way you want to.

[@petesanchez557]

It’s going to be nice not having you in our state.

[@scooty5403]

I have 28 points and have no idea when to use them anymore. I'm a archery hunter. Been looking into 2 and 10

[@cz9385]

Thanks for the info Randy but my son and I will never pay the state of Colorado another fee of any kind thanks to their state Supreme Court.

[@jaydunbar7538]

I hear you, but for me a friend has family in grand junction so we spend hunting season their with people that were literally born in those mountains, so it’s a hard thing to pass up regardless of what’s happening in Denver.

[@cz9385]

We are coming from out of state so really not giving them that income. In my opinion there has to be consequences for their actions, we took a nice elk from Craig area in 2018

[@oscardiaz8716]

Good

[@deerlayer6155]

Keep Colorado for RESIDENTS! Change license allocation to 15 % or less for non residents

[@WMBCS]

Dude, they don’t care if you’re not gonna come lol

[@GotDuhka]

BGSS draft is out. Likely deer and elk season dates will revert to something much closer to the last BGSS next year, making them earlier mostly.

[@southernhood5145]

thanks Randy

[@jasonpfeilsticker5692]

CWD has me spooked for Deer

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

Why?

[@kenraterink]

Cwd has been known in Colorado for 40+ years.... why are you all of the sudden spooked??

[@bugle1988]

Lol why

[@Mountaintoptractor]

I own land in GMU 49 This year there are no Private land only tags for 49, any idea why?

[@slomoengineguy5547]

You have more than 160 contiguous acres? If so you can apply for LO tags… if you just have a few acres they sometimes offer private land only tags based on herd objectives

[@Mountaintoptractor]

@slomoengineguy5547 I have 31 acres, not enough, but there were always private land only tags until this year.

[@DavidRocco-sf7ki]

Love Randy but unless non resident is different tags do not go to those with the most points. It's a wierd math formula but not high man wins. Go to DOW sight and check Draw Results. It shows you every unit and who applied with how many points. You will see it is all over the board on who drew.

[@Fresh_Tracks]

Wrong, for deer, elk, and pronghorn. Those shown with higher points and did not draw foolishly did a party app with a low point holder and thus went into the draw at the point level of the lowest point application.

[@joeyelton407]

not so......

[@kirkland_cooper96]

So if im understanding this correctly, there is no guarantee that you can hunt deer every season? I live east of the Mississippi so this whole draw system is foreign to me. Im used to buying my license and just going hunting. This system seems extremely regulated to me.

[@chrislewis9345]

Also just a fyi they doubled the bear tag price!

[@jaydunbar7538]

Seen lots of really nice mule deer last year in 61, we unfortunately only had elk tags.

[@coloradocatchcleanandcook3426]

You have to draw for 15 to 20 years to get a bull tag in 61 I'm well aware of this as I live in Montrose I assume you put in cow elk for at least 3 years or you spent many years to draw a bull tag. It's also a Trophy unit for deer and takes some years to draw a buck tag in just a FYI.

[@outdoorproductreview]

I have got 19 and don’t ever think I’ll see are 201. Might do 61 when I retire from the navy in two years.

[@northernoutdooradventures3883]

They are just going to make the non crowded units over crowded. The end of over the counter is near.

[@kyezek524]

It will push nonresidents to OTC elk since it will be harder for them to draw tags. These units are typically overcrowded already anyways. However, if you hunt seasons outside of OTC seasons, like muzzleloader or 1st rifle, you won't notice any extra hunting pressure. That's the problem for nonresidents though, it will be harder for them to draw those tags. That being said, I'm a resident so I Iove the change.

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

I don’t understand the logic

[@northernoutdooradventures3883]

@Randy_Savage_ohyeah they aren't lowering the number of people buying over the counter. They are removing areas they can hunt. The remaining areas are now going to get jammed with all the hunters. That will cause overcrowding in those units, too. Thus, they will be removing from over the counter, too.

[@kyezek524]

@@northernoutdooradventures3883 The reason why they removed some units from OTC is due to heavy winter kill in the NW part of the state. This is only suppose to be temporary but I do think unlimited OTC is stupid. It just creates too many hunters during 2nd & 3rd rifle seasons, as well as archery season.

[@jimrice4699]

Of course they knew that when they started but hoped folks wouldn't notice at first. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon or brain scientist (LOL) to figure that out, so even CODW knew it. It was very much a deliberate planned obsolescence.

[@brianbickler4757]

Do you know if the 10% reduction in NR tags has been reflected in the GoHunt Colorado draw odds for 2024?

[@nlormanstuckman7408]

I wish non residents would stay home I’m tied of seeing more people then game

[@8beef4dinner]

They use a true points system? I know residents who had less points than out of state people and the residents drew a tag but the out of state people did not.

[@Fresh_Tracks]

Very possible, as non-residents are capped at a percentage of the total tags, so residents will draw with lower point totals.

[@dustinhallett4160]

How many points a year can you buy?

[@1989jumpman]

1 per species

[@elkmo41]

What’s the drama about? Can’t chase OTC raghorns, no loss.

[@jackschall152]

If Colorado has a point system and draw..how is it OTC?

[@glennsands9127]

Some seasons and animals are draw only. There are multiple seasons for rifle.As an example, you could buy for the 2nd and 3rd over the counter.

[@drewcollins77]

It’s both. It’s dependent upon the specific unit.

[@smmalafa1]

Lived here for 20 years and the hunting here sucks. Impossible to draw tags in the unit you live in. But then gets flooded with OTC rifle hunters. Couldn’t be happier to leave this joke of a management system for greener grasses in the Midwest where I can freely harvest multiple deer with ease and a 10 dollar tag that’s unlimited.

[@drewcollins77]

Exactly. After 15 years here I’m moving my family back to the Midwest next summer.

[@jimevans3040]

All you guys complaing on here need to realize there's a correlation between the rise in non resident hunters and the rise in internet influencers spilling the beans on where to go?

[@KevinBauer-lk7bz]

IMO, if you’re a non-resident hunter and want take bull elk it’s actually cheaper (when thinking about cost per elk harvested) to hire a high quality/expensive guide at this point. They have access to private land, which means bigger elk and higher success rates, and often guaranteed tags. On state public land hunts you pay endless fees (if you can ever get a tag), need a truck, thousands of dollars in additional gear (e.g., side-by-side, good spotting scope, etc.) and hunt on generally marginal, heavy pressured land with smaller bulls. With a guide you need minimal equitment, usually only a rifle, hunting clothes only, and coolers, don’t pay endless fees (to states and application services) and some have success rates in the 90%+ range.

[@rossfeiler5489]

Hey Randy, Thanks for the information. With the OTC ending soon I'm thinking I might apply to get a point over the next couple years to have some points in pocket. I do plan to try and OTC this year. but don't have any points right now. What are your thoughts?

[@jaydunbar7538]

Get out and hunt that otc, practice and learn then burn those points

[@DanielRodriguez-xc4wb]

Awesome, hope to be moved by next season up there. High Tails here we come!

[@jeffbaker5038]

I'm a resident. This sucks. All non-resident tags, each and everyone should be draw only. Restricting resident hunters, especially bow hunters is asinine. Sorry but not sorry.

[@papaswoodshop4873]

I have never hunted a point state. How do you get points?

[@BrandonVelarde]

For Colorado, if you apply and you don't draw your 1st choice hunt code, you get a preference point. That means you can draw a 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice hunt code and still get a preference point. Some species like Sheep and Moose, you have to pay a fee to get a point but for Deer, Elk, or Antelope, no extra fee.

[@Randy_Savage_ohyeah]

@@BrandonVelardeu can also simply put in the preference point code as 1st choice

[@paulwelch7558]

Randy, the wolf's introduction will destroy all of the populations of moose,elk,deer, and sheep, so hunt now or never because it will change soon.

[@HomesteaderJake]

Yea and now they are in north east Utah, my brother seen one elk hunting.

[@thistledewoutdoors3331]

If non residents decide to boycott just 1 year of archery season - Colorado would beg for them to come back the following year..... Ive lived in Colorado and spent a measly couple hundred dollars a per year vs Thousands !!!! And thats doing it for as cheap as possible. .

[@smmalafa1]

I’d rather pay 2,000$ for a tag if that meant zero non residents got to hunt here.

[@ericbenefiel6075]

Lol not

[@petesanchez557]

Just stay out of Colorado, I’ll pay whatever it takes.

[@bent_life9865]

Look man I realize you are in a corner here. But the idea of “growing the pie” for animals that require 1000s of acres of habitat while simultaneously increasing popularity of a huge hunting population and battling record immigration to the western states is statistically a pipe dream. It’s unrealistic at best. You all need to consider your next move. Don’t ask me because I don’t know what it is, but this model of recruiting new enthusiasm for western hunting isn’t working if any conclusion can be drawn from the events of the last 10 years. Ask a local anywhere are we better off now than 10 years ago: your answer will not be surprising.

[@twsnow1891]

💯💯💯 Matt rinella is spot on.

[@huntsimple9527]

Your comment is........spot on. Western hunting is ruined, not on the path of being ruined, we are there. The only answer is NO over the counter even for residents of the western states. All hunting needs to be controlled, or else one day soon there won't be any hunting at all.

[@CarterOutdoorsman]

Whether you are a local or not is irrelevant in many cases. Much of the western public land is FEDERAL. It is not owned by the states only managed by them. Most of the public land is owned by the American people.

[@huntsimple9527]

Doesn't matter. The big game is owned by each state. Two different issues. You can drive to public land in any state and walk your dog, camp, etc. But when it comes to big game, totally different discussion. @@CarterOutdoorsman

[@ktbrockman]

We are already losing hunting rights as is. If there are less hunters there will be no tags to argue over. The fringe will make hunting illegal one species and one state at a time.

[@jasonwebb4871]

All these states are basically going to make it so pay to play or have zero success are your only options. I bet it’s cheaper to pay to play than try to mess with points, deal with all the creep, and you get to do it on your time line. But wait 5-10 years and hope.

[@oscardiaz8716]

Gladly pay 800 just as long yall cry babies stay home

[@kellymiller3136]

Just remember that in the leftover tags youth get preferences over others.

[@bbd160]

Eventually i will become a poacher. I can see the future!

[@AdamDguitars]

Seems impossible to start hunting

[@1RobHunter1]

For the amount charged, I quit hunting Colorado. The amount of steak and burgers I buy local is a far better deal. In the next 20 years, expect half of hunters just to vanish. Less and less are hunting every year now.

[@ericbenefiel6075]

I wish more would do the same

[@that_guynoname2837]

Damn looking at these comments ill never get to shoot an elk in this life as a non resident

[@Avery-i4l]

Need to vote republican and get the common sense back in Colorado!

[@petesanchez557]

Just stay out of our state.

[@johnboy6635]

Pedro, the Federal government owns more than 1/3 of the land in CO.

[@petesanchez557]

Juan, public trust resource owned by the citizens of each state.

[@johnboy6635]

Pedro, The federal government owns and manages 36+% of Colorado's land! Can’t wait to make use of my Federal tax $ next fall! See you there if you don’t get deported by then!

[@johnboy6635]

Pedro, Federal government owns and manages >36% of Colorado land. All US citizens should making use of their tax $ at work there!

[@jimevans3040]

The problem in colorado is the same as all the other western states, that's the people that are sending in for 5 to ten different states. Kinda like the guy that drew 4 bull tags last year. If you draw a tag for a species in one state you shouldn't be able to hunt the same species in any other state.

[@JamesJohnson-hl9pk]

Well, don't worry, when the wolves get going, you won't see any animals anymore because they will decimate them all, including your stinking cows. 😅

[@dwalks8419]

Lol ok bro. Species that have coexisted for hundreds of thousands of years, but all of a sudden the wolves are going to "decimate" them all

[@ChristopherHelms-n9i]

I don’t get all the people getting their panties in twisted over non residents, they pay a lot of money which keeps my tag cost low. Most non resident hunters don’t even see elk, let alone harvest one, I’ve been fortunate enough to fill otc elk tags every year, people b*tching about the orange army are not going deep enough. Majority of the time I see non residents hunting they are road hunting.

[@westelkhunts1974]

As a resident! I blame all these videos that teach ppl how to apply here! Look at numbers! We don’t have largest elk herd in nation, but we give out 4x more tags than any state! You guys are ruining it for yourself.

[@petesanchez557]

Yep, all the advertising for us has made it harder for themselves. Telling people on KZbin where they hunt, that should of kept quiet.