Big Tech Stole Our Data While Democracy Slept: Shoshana Zuboff on the Age of Surveillance Capitalism

democracynow.org - Corporations have created a new kind of marketplace out of our private human experiences. That is the conclusion of an explosive new book that argues big tech platforms like Facebook and Google are elephant poachers, and our personal data is ivory tusks. We continue our interview with Shoshana Zuboff, author of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power.
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[@MichaelMarko]

Wow! That is one of the clearest, articulate voices on freedom and power I have ever heard. Nice job Shoshana!

[@mrtrashcompaktor1540]

The thing is democracy wasn't asleep, our representatives were doing the same thing and benefiting from the data these corporations collect. They were told. They knew.

[@BKMcl]

Totally agree with your statement, it was beneficial to them and this is why we are in this state.

[@mrtrashcompaktor1540]

unfortunately it probably wouldn't have made a difference whether it was anyone else either. The same issue with 'net neutrality'...it is boring and no one(hardly anyone) wanted to know about it. @onlyfacts "The rules championed by Democratic former President Barack Obama, intended to safeguard equal access to content on the internet, were opposed by President Donald Trump, a Republican."

[@mrtrashcompaktor1540]

The video already made the point that the Trump campaign did the same thing using Cambridge Analytica that was another example of an internet breaking decision....that didn't generate enough interest to be prevented. @onlyfacts

[@Windband1]

That headline presumes we have a democracy. We do not!

[@Darkmire]

Yes, this is one reason the Obama and Clinton campaigns were so close to Google. And interestingly (and to everyone's detriment) their social conditioning based on identity politics didn't ultimately work. While ending up with Trump was disastrous, the neoliberals are their own brand of terrible.

[@philgwellington6036]

Don't you just love brilliant professors.

[@ElectricCult]

Orwell: *_"I told you!"_*

[@Windband1]

@undefined undefined What the fuck just happened? You tell those voices in your head to be quiet and go play somewhere else!

[@Windband1]

LOL, right?! 1984 Part II: "See bitches!!!"

[@chancletadeldiablo894]

Don't forget Huxley, he has an interview from 58' that predicted all of this, and to a finer degree than Orwell

[@ElectricCult]

@@chancletadeldiablo894 Good point, love Aldous, an amazing and prolific writer/philosopher.

[@Windband1]

@@chancletadeldiablo894 Yes, Brave New World was spot on, for sure!

[@folkeholmberg3519]

Absolutely Brilliant !

[@isaaccotton1]

I knew this was happening Thank you Ms. Zuboff for this talk and your Book

[@BKMcl]

Our own constitution gives us the right to privacy and this has clearly been ignored. How we never thought about cyber laws before we got to this point boggles my mind. This is only the beginning and if we don't take a stand, we are looking at a very bleak future. Thank you for the upload.

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

B.K. Mcl it's all too valuable now. There's no turning back.

[@jamesscott2730]

It's because Americans have been convinced that the Bill of Rights only applies to the Government and that Corporations are free to violate those rights.

[@mainmast8955]

cyber privacy laws were well thought out decades ago, that's why we don't have any for us in the populace.

[@1peanut]

you ever read the agreement ? you signed away your privacy when you click agree.

[@boesbensen5548]

excelsior..!! what a fantastic lady.

[@nyakwarObat]

Beauty and brain.....😬grrrh

[@genewhitworth6174]

U make a lot of great points....that apply to capitalism across the board.

[@lightjourney7963]

Yes

[@Lindenlc10]

" Our elected officials can be educated, if they don't want to be educated we can elect different people. "

[@teslastellar]

99% of them are a bunch of old fools who don't even know what a computer is and have not done their own grocery shopping since the 1950s and think a jug of milk still costs a penny and can't understand why these "ungrateful workers" want the minimum wage increased. These are the fools that the people of our country keep sending back to Congress.

[@bboucharde]

At the very end, I noticed a MAJOR omission in Shoshana's advice on how we can protect ourselves: She did not advise quitting Facebook. Yes, most of us know this already, but she should have mentioned it. Overall, though, she is doing great work, and I respect her.

[@nancysiouta7038]

Unfortunately they are monopolies, he owns even whatsup messanger and also Google does the same how can we stop using Google?

[@skeptick6513]

Heard this guest on Ralph Nader radio hour a bit ago check out his channel its very good

[@therealtoni]

The thing is--- people DON'T self-regulate or even care who knows all their business. That is really scary

[@nafertitifearlessbutloving8368]

Absolutely worth watching video. I am getting the 📖 #Corruption and #Fascism are the same coin with two sides.

[@wild-radio7373]

She sums up *their* understanding of consent ... Well said.

[@tylerdavidson9700]

Knowledge is power. Now more true than ever.

[@jamesmckeown2783]

Fantastic Amy, we all love you!!!

[@BakedUp]

More people need to be watching Democracy Now!! Lets share this as much as we can people if we dont, we are not really doing our part.

[@Headington_Oxford]

So poignant. We are living in the Matrix universe.

[@pallabidutta968]

Tesla brags about it by saying it to be some kind of "computer stimulation".

[@pennyo6868]

For sure, a very smart woman delivering a message that will affect humanity. Dismiss her at your own peril.

[@andyshelly3473]

1984 , i will not self sensor , i have the right to self determination , there is so much wrong with our society . i need to move to a country like mexico .

[@Windband1]

Hope you can handle firearms... You'll need them there. :(

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

andy shelly what do you think are the top 3 problems with our society?

[@andyshelly3473]

everything is fake , politics ,religion and the media especially , everything is militarized or weaponized or misused for nefarious agendas . its all unsustainable . @@squarepegroundhole8211

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

We happily and blindly gave them all the information at no cost. Our very souls. They then made endless amounts of money, which naturally grants them power and influence. But in the end, I think even money will be replaced as the thing that buys power, by knowledge itself. Knowledge about everyone, in every way, from the most trivial to the most private. We're nothing anymore. We're powerless and there's no place left to run. We're fucked.

[@ConspiracyFactist]

Perfectly stated

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

@@ConspiracyFactist thanks... i think

[@folkeholmberg3519]

Have you ever made something with your own hands...?

[@ConspiracyFactist]

@@folkeholmberg3519 I have, You would be surprised.

[@jumpingeezus5080]

Satyasya Satyasya What information did you give them? How did you give them your soul? Seriously. I don't get it.

[@aquickstory2196]

we are engineered into ignorance.....there is no escape

[@batteryincorporated]

To the guy who put a gated compressor on this video. Bravo

[@Owondr]

The moral shift caused by the expanding “oneness movement” in the workplace strips away all autonomous privacy, so why not do it to the clients as well? An imbalance of psychic ability combined with a lack of oversight results in abuse. Zimbardo proved the consequence of such a power imbalance years ago with the Stanford Prison experiment. All this is done under the banners of “nothing to fear if you’ve nothing to hide”, corporate espionage has promoted these values...to save money. It’s often normalized with the slogan that “we’re all hypocrites “...we’re not. Permission is everything where intimacy is concerned

[@MtnGalPal]

FYI, Obama's campaign used the exact same techniques and it was lauded as a great success.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

I agree we have to be mindful of that. The surveillance capitalists count on our complicity when things turn out the way we like.

[@cristianerehem13]

Thanks to Democracy Now! and to the teacher: who would say that in Harvard Business School such a thinker is accepted! I loved the interview and the unfeared and propositive way of talking about the Capital beast. The book seems expensive and I refuse to buy on Amazon again, so I hope that it will be accessible soon to the people it's aimed at. I will suggest it to some libraries here. Thanks again. The fight is only beginning. Sampa/SP, Brasil, 01/03/2019 - 23:14

[@gerardomenendez8912]

I love Shoshana

[@patrickholt2270]

The political and socio-political ambition isn't great enough to be effective. Clearly the New Deal didn't tame capitalism, it didn't create equilibrium, and there is no such thing as "market democracy", because the New Deal was utterly destroyed as a policy framework and as a political concensus, and was only somewhat intact for about 20 years. The period without the New Deal in effect has exceeded the the New Deal already by 200%. Aiming at "doing it again" promises only another short lacuna in the normal tendencies of capitalism towards monopolisation, financialisation, rentierism and neo-feudalism. In any case, so deep and wide is the neo-liberal legal and institutional apparatus, including things like the WTO, the EU, and every major international trade agreement of the last 30 years, that it would take at least a decade to dismantle and replace, in which time the political power of the financial and real estate elites would be reorganised to derail our efforts, as the original New Deal was derailed by the recovery and remobilisation of bourgeois political forces, working through economics departments, the alphabet agencies and privately funded lobbies, the media and civil society organisations. Given the historical scorecard, we have to conclude that social democracy, including this particular deployment of that old Third Way canard, the "social market" as "market democracy" is a massive historical failure and in significant part the thin end of the wedge of neoliberalism, with liberals and social democrats accepting the drift into neoliberalism as electoral realpolitik and sensible middle class dinnerparty policy chat, predicated on incrementalism and unquestioning belief in markets and the leading role of private enterprise. To overcome "surveillance capitalism" you also have to overcome capitalism in general, and that has to mean wholesale expropriation of the superrich and monoply corporations, such as Google and Facebook, and wholesale redistribution of the ownership of that wealth to communities and civil society associations such as unions, cities, states and co-operatives, to provide the necessary democratic control within the enterprise by the community and community groups. Otherwise, the wealthy will just use their massive (and unearned) wealth to organise against your legislative, regulatory temporary fixes and to buy off, co-opt and dismantle your establishment-politics-adjunct political organisation. It's not just a matter of money-in-politics, it's money in the wrong pocket books, and that has to be changed or the rest cannot be, and not for any historically meaningful and effective length of time.

[@elxero2189]

Are children able to give their permission legally ?

[@JUANIGNAC10]

and.... two years later we are discussing Immunity Passports (aka the end of privacy and the end of democracy).

[@davidsavage6324]

"Naming has power." Yes! Yes! Yes! Like Adam the Namer and my ancestress Leah the Namer (who perhaps named 15 children since Rabbinic tradition holds that all the sons of Yakov were twins). All words are symbols and symbols have millennial or cosmic epochal history and energy dynamics. The first step to understanding ideas and concepts is knowing the names and words associated therewith and perhaps chanting the names and words in a particularly noetic symantic family. And then swimming around in the ocean of meaning in those verbal placeholders. Shabbat Shalom.

[@chiptom6461]

What a lecturing, "I know best", tone.

[@barbarajohnson1442]

Excellent show!!

[@victoriaallen8271]

Have NOTHING smart. Got rid of my smart phone and am just fine.

[@obsoleteoptics]

What about the smart computer you're using? Or the smart meters on your household utilities?

[@norvillerodgersspeaks]

My gas meter is always running cy-ops on me.

[@davidfaubion1720]

A big part of the modern micro economist's job in the field is the pursuit of data about consumers. Surveillance capitalism takes that role to the next level, an extreme exponential level.

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

Didn't they agree not to do that when Congress started sniffing around years ago... but too tempting not to get that paper especially when you know there will be no repercussions.

[@willweeverlearn7548]

It's just capitalism not "Crony capitalism." "Disaster capitalism." "Casino capitalism." "Rigged capitalism." "Ruthless capitalism." Or" surveillance capitalism" All these weaselly phrases are used to obscure the real problem: Capitalism. No modifiers necessary.

[@mrtriffid]

I'm inclined to agree. One may say that the essential feature of all these "Capitalisms" is parasitism. "Surveillance Capitalism" is an initially intriguing concept, but it is just another example of a form of social parasitism. But isn't it also true that Industrial Capitalism actually did generate useful commodities and represent some form of 'progress,' even if it was based on expropriated labor? So isn't that (at least) a relative distinction?

[@genewhitworth6174]

I agree. Don't need to talk about the finer points of it, just need to stop using it!

[@teddycollier4909]

No matter what you call Bullshit, it still stinks.

[@mickeylara2111]

@willwe everlearn there is a big difference between Wall Street casino capitalism and industrial capitalism, those are two different worlds. If Wall Street is doing well that doesn't mean the industry is doing well.

[@willweeverlearn7548]

@@mickeylara2111 No. The very foundation of the capitalist system is asymmetrical power relations between those with capital and those without capital This characteristic is inexorably linked to the concept of capitalism. Any modifiers or qualifiers added to the word capitalism do not negate the reality of how capitalism inherently functions.

[@juliahenriques210]

Don't use Facebook. Don't activate resources like location tracking. Choose where to post what, through where to search what. Block all access you can. Have fakes for mandatory registering. If your recommendations and ads are consistently off, you know you're on the right track. That's a hell of a lot work, though. It's like digital higiene, and it's now just as important as body higiene.

[@julielarge6120]

A disgusting state of affairs. The controllers of this world have got God to answer to.

[@coolnvigilantoutreach9418]

What a wonderful discussion. Very necessary.

[@norvillerodgersspeaks]

She is making the case for incrementalist appeasement. How vile. "Market Democracy." What crap!

[@abooswalehmosafeer173]

I am a great Fan.

[@metatrongroove2824]

what a beast! great show.

[@galactic904]

She's in the Netflix "The Social Dilemma"

[@kathys2357]

Facebook was doing hands on assistance for Trump's campaign.

[@MtnGalPal]

And Obama's campaign. The exact same techniques were used in 2012 and lauded as a great thing. (I am no fan of tRump nor Obama, FYI)

[@ucntcit]

America has gone completely rogue.

[@kennethgarcia25]

This is what happens when capitalism is given free reign. Survival of the financially fittest, while any act which provides advantage for the wealthy over those less able to afford a defense of their privacy and opportunity to thrive are sacrificed. Capitalism must always be balanced with humanism! An individual's right to access resources should not be at the cost of another individuals access to the basic necessities of food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, a competitive education, and the opportunity to pursue a personally meaningful career while supporting themselves and their loved ones.

[@lisahayes4391]

Thank you Professor Zuboff!

[@judymeyer4315]

I use "Duck, Duck, Go" as my search engine and it includes their "Privacy Essentials" also. And "Adblock Plus" and I clear my "cache" and more before I log out. Are those things enough? I only play a game on my Edge browser with all the same protections.

[@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609]

And don't forget Ghostery. And use FIREFOX, get rid fo Chrome!!!

[@ArmageddonAfterparty]

No, we need to attack those behind this. Your friend's ignorant actions are enough to project your data image to them.

[@JugglinJellyTake01]

That's a small start but it is self censorship as Shoshona Zuboff mentioned. You don't mention whether you use any apps or not. See the other DN post on women's menstrual cycle being tracked. That is serious invasion of privacy that few will explicitly know they have permitted that information to be shared. "Today's opinions are a tomorrow's legislation", it is a much deeper awareness of what is going on and the legislation that needs to catch up if we are going to tackle the information and power asymmetry to reclaim individual sovereignty and hence democracy. I think reading the book that Shoshona Zuboff has written and understand the situation ie weave opinions with knowledge.

[@MobileBroadbandBlog]

OK. Here's the thing. The very fact we are all posting comments here, is an illustration of surveillance capitalism. But if you want to get more granular, it's the moments you paused the video, it's the video you watched after this one, it's the location of the Wifi router you accessed the video from.... and on.... forever EVERYTHING.... you do online is being extracted, and put into a database, so at some point in the future, your digital interactions will form part of a algorithm that some company will use to target you and attempt to predict and intervene in your future behaviour..... That's how it works...

[@wmski]

What if acting as if you have something to hide, like using alternative browsers (made by who?) are the primary signals to watch you?

[@benparkinson8314]

Protection for individual Agency. This level of agency manipulation must not be

[@user-zk8vt9bp3b]

If people like Shoshana Zuboff really shape the frame of American intellectual life then the country does not need to confirm it's greatness!

[@ergaomnes6221]

here is only ONE WAY to contain and limit ultra capitalism and FUTILISM and this is SOCIALISM ! SACCO & VANZETTI style, if necessary, w/out violence but with firm opposition and conviction ! Petition the GOV. EVERY DAY !

[@16gabrielprado16]

Why subtitles are not available? I don't feel comfortable sharing this videos without subtitles for all

[@brunoborgen2434]

.....where is Part1 of this interview? I spent 10 minutes in the youtube page of Democracy Now! and it is no there. Itś impossible to find it.

[@IdrisFashan]

Soooo... Cambridge Analytica and troll farms are a FEATURE not a BUG. It was accepted when it was economic influence, but people got upset when there was a blatant expression of the same thing in a political realm. Nothing has changed... I am buying this book NOW. Important work. 👊🏿🧔🏾 Realize that Google is watching us...here and now. 😏

[@zebontheweb]

Spare a thought for kids just graduating high school. They have had Facebook and Google their entire lives... they watched their parents stare at phones and now we all have to wear masks. Then they have to get jobs and decide on career paths. What a shit show this world is.

[@broderalias]

Thank you!

[@Leena-zh4lj]

Yes it's true and its Bill Gets/microsoft is number ONE in doing it. Get rid of Bill gets/Microsoft first.

[@squarepegroundhole8211]

Leena and the gmo mosquitos!

[@matteomancini3070]

who else is watching this for their classes?

[@zacharydavis4398]

Thank you for spending the time to create and share this content. So relevant to Trump and his enabled (autocratic/authoritarian/dictatorial/etc) administrations/teams/Big-Techs/etc role in the blip in Modern American history …

[@drackxman]

Just wear a burka and also sunglasses so no retinal identification. …. Heading toward the movies " Minority Report and Enemy of the State ".

[@LA-kc7ev]

From consumers to being consumed!

[@galactic904]

DIsCO: Just an Illusion · Imagination {1984}

[@musicguy9299]

They have done it for eons with all animals. Now, WE are the last ones, (because some of us have a brain). The have been going at it hard and, will win, if we don't stop it.

[@jumpingeezus5080]

Musiclover Who's they?

[@obsoleteoptics]

@@jumpingeezus5080 The ruling class, the bourgeoisie, the owners of capital and the means of production, the aristocracy, the wealthiest top 1% of the 1%

[@bboucharde]

Lewis Mumford: "I warned you!" (Start with "The Myth of the Machine," and then read everything else from him.)

[@VV-xb1zx]

I love this women

[@brucebutler2746]

Wow.

[@animalfarm7467]

What a brilliant woman. The only thing Shoshana Zuboff got wrong was when she said, 05:18 "It's our job as citizens of democratic societies to use our new understanding to summon the resources of our democratic institutions". It's interesting and ironic she can make this statement when all she has to do is open her eyes and look. The most prolific sight is people coupled to their “smart” phones for their Potemkin existence; it is their source of human relationships; it is their source of opinion and especially “news”. So you first have to extract these fools from their cell phones before real democracy can start. And as for democracy itself; democracy doesn't exist in the US; it has died from the death of a thousand cuts. Everything from the Plutocratic control the mainstream media and all branches of government, the Electoral College, Superdelegates, the corporatization of the DNC and RNC and the Commission on Presidential Debates, voter restriction, questionable electric voting practices, gerrymandering, Institutions like Cambridge Analytica, and so much more have disabled democracy and now these puppet masters can predict, not only their own economic future but the dystopian political future for all. It’s as if they were using Orwell’s 1984 as a strategic guide to their oppression and control. www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/zuckerberg-embarks-on-apology-tour "People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb f#c&s." -Mark Zuckerberg

[@obsoleteoptics]

Don't forget _Citizens United v. FEC_

[@valsarff6525]

The genie is out of the bottle. Make a law against tech, tech will go around it. Make enough laws and the problem goes underground. The Tech war against the Bios has begun and we will be assimulated.

[@bruceswearingen7718]

Orwellian days & nites

[@peterdickinson7842]

I think I'm in danger of addiction to intelligence, but wisdom, that's different. Tell Satan you are under new management.

[@brandon3636]

So scary.

[@clarestucki5151]

If you don't want the hi-tech folks to know so much about you, just get the hell off Facebook. I get along perfectly well without "social media".

[@jenamirgholi6004]

Praise God

[@mistervacation23]

You know better than to talk to me like that when im hurtin' Linda.

[@stixnfeet7818]

Stewart drives a comfortable car and there’s always a body in the trunk.

[@mistervacation23]

@@stixnfeet7818 for sure

[@FrancoisBeauregard]

@Democracy Now! I guess you/we will need an alternate service than Google KZbin to publish and watch digital content.

[@teddycollier4909]

Who reads what these scientists write? Whom do they brag to? This is really sinister. Moral sickness.

[@rongonza2539]

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Democrat leadership. Reason cnn abc and cbs won’t talk about their shared biased interest.

[@MrStosh12345]

Mass hypnosis.

[@mabodomoca]

"Do we want to be living in a society that makes its money by trading in human futures?" She then says, "Because the consequence of that kind of business logic is in a direct collision course with democracy ... it must cast human autonomy as its enemy." She goes on to say that human autonomy has to do with our decision rights. If democracy is understood by a system of government where the people rule: "A democracy means rule by the people in which the citizens of that society freely elect their political representatives." It doesn't say special interest groups, lobbyists, corporate media, etc. So, democracy is used for different forms of government, where the people can take part in the decisions that affect the way their country, state or community is run. Are we living in a democracy? That "human autonomy" she talks about, as I see it, seems to be in the hands of the few and the big corporations, openly exercising their form of "surveillance capitalism" in which a few strokes of the keyboard and some personal codes will expose our entire life to whoever is willing to purchase the information. But don't worry, our personal information is always "safe."

[@markmahan38]

While some of this matter is new to me and others, I am sure. But largely this is not truelly revolutionary new info. But I do thank this women for talking about it on Democracy Now. As it is truelly naferious and scary. But her last comments about electing new people who will do the right thing to correct this. Is pattenly WRONG. In this interview the point is made that the tech company, if they do not like what they see. Can, do, and will bribe and write favourable legislation or back and appiont candidates who will do their bidding. Using the very behavioral capitalism model to get their people in. And all of my latter comments points to the fundamental flaw in her hopeful fantasy. How does a just and equal system rise from a ultra stacked and rigged GAME?

[@TheCyberianWonder]

If anything, she's articulated the problem very well - enough to draw a line in the sand. However, the responsibility is ours to name it and tame it, with or without legislation. Let's resist anyone who datamines and exploits our personal lives and interactions (says the dude posting to you on KZbin...lol).

[@thosethatcan]

Was that Clint Watt's sister?!

[@leerowe280]

PUT FAKE INFO on your FB account.. if everyone did this they couldnt use it...

[@houloudini]

New joker movie is base of me and my bro data. Sounds crazy until I breakdown how they’ve been stalking me and sucking up my data to make a number of media.

[@itzenormous]

It's Capital, protecting its class interest. Shoshana Zuboff, although her heart is in the right place, is just another complaining Liberal, failing to see that it's the system, and clinging to any sort of hope that the system will sustain itself.

[@wmski]

I've been replied to and I'm unable to make a response. The public forums are highjacked, or illusory at best. Seems to me.

[@obsoleteoptics]

It's called being shadowbanned. Get used to it.

[@wmski]

@@obsoleteoptics I don't want to get used to it. I don't like it!

[@parishj3]

So do “they” know we want Bernie Sanders? Are we being given Bernie as a prop?

[@obsoleteoptics]

Yes

[@parishj3]

@@obsoleteoptics lol

[@obsoleteoptics]

Bernie is a BEB

[@parishj3]

@@obsoleteoptics ?

[@obsoleteoptics]

@@parishj3 Bourgeois Electoral Bullshitter

[@0tube0user]

Too many pages to read, is there a movie?

[@gaticaantonio9235]

Shoshana Zuboff: Surveillance Capitalism and Our Democracy WJBH Forum this video is very helpful try it

[@gaticaantonio9235]

Also Ralph Nader video on this subject also Noam Chomsky Chris Hedges speeches PLEASE do you will not be sorry

[@obsoleteoptics]

Why read when you can just watch the TV? 💁‍♂️

[@Dreadkid08]

abolish capitalism

[@julianokhoshaba1]

wizard of oz .......

[@omgsolikevalleygirl]

Brilliant, but Shoshana's speech rhythm makes it hard to follow, it's strangely trance-inducing.

[@tommythecatofficial32actual]

Go me for president I’m on my own I have the right to Take your life experience

[@wild-radio7373]

🤜👍🤛♡♡♡

[@victorialeif9266]

The digital burka

[@RK-bj8ho]

Democracy is not that important , capitalism on the other hand is critical for poverty elevation ...... in India democracy does MORE harm than good , there is endless politics and debate but zero development action. Our country is still a slum because of Democracy , if we would have embraced capitalism propery things would be much different.

[@manuelv9494]

This is a very important topic I wish Shoshanna wasn't so verbose and wordy.

[@Windband1]

Smart chicks rule! Deal with it.

[@redplanet9162]

Try reading her book. I'm smart but have trouble.

[@thierrykaya766]

I don't believe in god but this woman is doing real god's work lol

[@shadowdance4666]

Startpage.com

[@pmally2006]

She needs to be much more specific about the subject. It’s just word soup that I hear. It’s good, but more information

[@gaticaantonio9235]

Shoshana Zuboff: Surveillance Capitalism and Our Democracy WJBH Forum Also watch Ralph Nader video on this subject