Big Ten Expansion Targets Based on 2024 TV Ratings

[@Makusa-qc2qd]

This was a great video! Several takeaways: 1. Deion is a walking gold mine 2. Nebraska, despite being a bad team for two decades, still draws viewers 3. The "downticket" SEC games are consistently rated higher Good stuff ... learned a lot. Thanks!

[@TheBigMountainPodcast]

Thanks. Glad you liked it!

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Remember this, the more members a conference has, the more the revenue is DIVIDED among the members. Not to mention the difficulty in retaining yearly rivalries (which the Big "18" is already botching for some universities). This is basically how the Mountain West was formed in 1999. Disgruntled Western Athletic Conference members (the GOOD half) upset with the overexpansion to 16 with a division alignment (back when divisions were required to stage a championship game) where four teams swaps divisions with four teams from the opposite division every two years! Don't kid yourself if you think the Big "can't count past" 10 and SEC is immune to what happened to the WAC! Texas A&M is quite upset with the SEC allowing the Longhorns to follow them into the SEC, and sooner or later, the Ohio State's and Alabama's are going to get sick and tired of subsidizing the Rutgers' and Vanderbilts of the world! And don't forget, the idiot networks will eventually be strapped for cash resulting in LESS money for the schools.

[@stevejamieson8468]

I really wish ND would just join the B10 already, it's long overdue. They play in B10 country, very solid athletically, legacy program.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Then you better hope Ohio State wins in a couple of days. Also, try telling the playoff committee to come up with some draconian rules that makes an Independent run a total nightmare!

[@stevejamieson8468]

@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 I don't see why it is so hard for a team to just join a conference especially with ND which is a very natural fit for the B10?

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@stevejamieson8468 - Notre Dame has too much PRIDE (one of the seven deadly sins) to join a conference. Especially as long as idiot networks like NBC keeps paying for their home games. Once again, either get the playoff committee to make it more brutal for an independent to get in, or get those stupid networks to stop paying for Notre Dame home games.

[@TheLAGopher]

In the short term the best fox for the ratings problem for the later games is if USC returns to being a natty contender. Also there is going to be pressure on Michigan and Ohio State to host night games

[@robertstwocents]

Colorado TV rankings are Dion’s TV rankings. If Dion leaves to coach a Big Ten team, those ratings will follow. Then where will Colorado rank?

[@christophertaylor1575]

Dion's days are numbered. He is loosing his appeal.

[@davidhopkins1199]

Great video. Liked your thoughts Steve. Time will tell!

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

Actually, with all this conference realignment, it has made me realize that brand names need to become independent like Notre Dame.

[@hcopenhagenh]

lol

[@joe_zeay]

notredame can only pull 40-50Mill per year. other programs would pull in less as independent

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

@joe_zeay Well, Michigan isn't one that would have a difficult time with TV viewership or sponsorship. In fact, Ohio State and Michigan both come in well above ND in TV viewership year after year. I'll bet Penn St and USC are close.

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

@@joe_zeay 40 to 50 million is half of what Michigan gets right now in the B1G. In TV revenue, alone.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@hcopenhagenh - Just like you.

[@MrDellasc]

The Cowboys are firing McCarthy, so don’t be surprised if Deion ends up coaching there or with Raiders. He recently gave an interview saying the only way he’d go to the NFL was to coach his son(s), which is code for “I’m willing to talk and am open for business”…..

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Which is why we need teams who are NOT going to hire Deion to draft his sons!

[@redlegion19]

That was exactly why the west coast teams were a waste of adding. The west simply doesn't care. Even when they have a team that is national story they simply don't watch.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Which makes the ACC even stupider for adding California and Stanford. But yes, the LONG TERM failure of coast-to-coast conferences is already beginning.

[@JosephMelendrez007]

Great show, guys! BTW, the sound is excellent!

[@DavidKreitzer-ng2fe]

I could only find 2023-2024: Top 15 most viewed games. (30 teams) B1G 18 teams involved. SEC 7 teams involved. Other 5 teams.

[@ninRAIDER]

You have to take into account that the Big Noon time slot is the most valuable time slot in college football due to it having the most eyeballs in the Central and Eastern timezones. Oregon and the rest of the other west coast B1G teams are guaranteed to NOT play in that time slot by contract due to it's 9am kickoff on the west coast, putting these teams at an inherent disadvantage when it comes to TV ratings. That inhrerent decreased TV value is in fact the root of why the Pac 12 fell apart in the first place. Also, Colorado's TV value is extremely inflated currently due to Deion Sanders and is not sustainable once he leaves. As a brand they aren't worth it for the B1G longterm even if they look attractive right now. And, yes, I completely agree that Florida State and Miami should be the B1G's top targets from the ACC footprint for many reasons.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Remember when FOX was the LEAST Leastern Time Zone bias when they first started in the 1980's? Now they are the most, and it's just another reason why that piece of Sally Heather Ingrid Tom network Diane Ed Sam Ernie Ron Valerie Edith Steve to be the Nancy Erwin Xavier Tammy Trade Center Towers!

[@af6456]

Oregon is over valued. USC is under valued. Always has been that way. Oregon represents an ongoing theme with alot of schools in the West. They over value themselves.

[@davidbrown386]

Big 10 agrees. That is why USC got a full share immediately and Oregon did not

[@GeorgeLukaszewski]

Oregon at 50% is undervalued - so not sure what you are talking about

[@stansifer70]

@@GeorgeLukaszewskiexactly

[@af6456]

@GeorgeLukaszewski Yeah. When I typed that, I knew it needed more context because Oregon fans would take offense to the assertion. Since the video referenced TV ratings, there was only 2 games Oregon played that drew a rating around 4.million. Meaning sometimes when Oregon is playing a school, they are not the TV draw but their opponent is. Oregon is not overvalued. The coverage they get is outsized compared to their accomplishments in some people's opinions. When USC is really good, a lot of people watch them. This is arguably the best Oregon football has ever been, the country barely watches them.

[@anthonytitone]

Oregon makes the BIG10 better at football unlike USC tho, they’re contributing to the image of the BIG10 right now which will lead to more playoff selections & more money

[@TheAveragejoe333]

I think with Colorado, a lot of it is definitely the Dion affect. But you also need to consider they had a diamond in the rough with Travis Hunter that brought more eyes, paired with his son who was putting up Heisman worthy numbers. So I think a few things led to their ratings.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

A 5 star #1 recruit in the nation was a diamond in the ruff.😂😂😂 Man, you guys say anything online.

[@TheAveragejoe333]

@ I don’t see how I said anything wrong. Travis Hunter was a huge pull for Colorado and their viewership. How is that a strange take?

[@robertofraire4102]

@@lorenzohaynes3886😂😂😂 💯 people just speak to hear themselves sound smart 😂😂 The problem is they say the dumbest sh!+ possible

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

@robertofraire4102 You can say that. But with this tv contract, the Big 10 will probably get 110 million dollar payouts by the end of it. You're possibly looking at 130-160 million payouts in the mid 2030's. The SEC will be around that as well. If those schools get to those numbers. Who is gonna pay Notre Dame 70-85 million a year for 6 games? It's kinda a fact that Notre Dame has to hit a lot of bench marks to hit the the high end money numbers they have in their new deal now. And the facts are we still have no clue what college sports looks like with the salary cap. I know Notre Dame wants to be independent. But you're asking a whole lot, assuming it's just gonna happen. This is a new horizon in college sports. You should prepare yourself today for what may change tomorrow. Expecting your donors to pay more and more and a tv network to pay more and more so you can stay independent. Nobody owes Notre Dame that. College sports is gonna start costing way too much. And the cost will not come down ever again.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

@robertofraire4102 It may be a good idea for you to look up Nick Sabans' interview where he talks about donor fatigue. Costs and student athlete's financial demands are going up. Donors are getting sick of answering the phones, shelling out 4 million for players that will leave in 16 weeks. I know the talk is always about tv contracts. But this model is not sustainable. It's less sustainable for a school that's independent. College athletics has a new model. Pay attention.

[@CulturePROVOCATEUR]

Deion is a big factor to be sure. However, over the course of time, I believe Colorado will rebuild its fan base beyond coach Sanders, provided that they can keep winning.

[@RavenThom]

except Deion is going to the NFL, The Raiders guarantee to draft son 1, and sign son 2 / Deion will coach. Book it!

[@brockrobison8597]

Colorado was so overrated lol. Got smashed by two unranked teams and beat nobody. They would get embarrassed in sec or big 10

[@CulturePROVOCATEUR]

@@brockrobison8597 Yup. Sucks so bad that the Raiders may end up hiring Prime. Okay 🤪🤡

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

Your best video ever! B1G moved forward with the 4 additions. If Bill Bellicheck sticks around at UNC could we see a “Deion” ratings affect for UNC? I could definitely see FSU & Miami in the B1G. I could also see GT in the B1G. The question would be would the B1G be able to get UNC? If they did the B1G might attract attention from Texas A&M to jump. Then B1G might go to ND and say now or never.

[@troywebb7657]

I'm curious how long "Deion" popularity lasts. Thus far Colorado has improved from a lousy team to an average (Bowl Eligible) squad...Is that good enough?

[@daveowens9849]

FSU isn't AAU. No go on them. They were rejected by the AAU the same year South Florida was invited. Miami, UNC, Texas A&M, and GT are AAU. Georgia Tech has been talked about a lot. AAU school, and Atlanta. Big tv market there.

[@jakenunya1587]

Miami will bring consistent TV ratings because people love or hate them.

[@paulvarnell]

The Big 10 needs to stay out of the south. The power 2 is successful because it is the north/west vs the south. The B1G adding southern teams ruins that dynamic and takes away CFB's best rivalry, the rivalry of different US regions.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Well, they are already ruining the dynamic with the Pac traitors. Same with the ACC.

[@philgates9876]

zero chance of B1G adding Colorado or Clemson, NEVER going to happen.

[@sir-game-alot7613]

Never say never little Phil.

[@philgates9876]

@@sir-game-alot7613 sure be in denial pretend there is a chance, but that doesn't change the fact neither is going to the B1G EVER>

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@philgates9876 - Especially when that money SPLIT shrinks with each new addition. Plus Clemson has no AAU membership.

[@philgates9876]

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 right it's not about Clemson football or sports it's about their lack of academic standing. It would have to be someone really special for the B1G to let someone weak in academic's in.

[@thatcollegefootballguy]

Great video gentlemen! I agree that the 2 best targets for now for the Big Ten are Florida State and Miami. I don't see them going past 20 unless Notre Dame is a part of the package. This is all contingent on if the Super League never happens. If it does, all bets are off.

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

Why would they want to join the big10 when they’re in the s.e.c back yard

[@johnboltz2768]

@they hate Texas not saying that would be a good enough reason but, they also would be the only Big Ten program in Texas setting them apart with all the recruits but getting coast to coast with more tv exposure. The Big Ten is getting a lot better for one big reason money. The Big Ten has a lot more of it than the SEC that is why you are seeing such a big serge in talent for the big ten

[@hcopenhagenh]

@@SteveAllen-x2m The SEC has too many good teams. It is hurting the league.

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

@@johnboltz2768I agree100’’

[@joe_zeay]

​@@SteveAllen-x2mof these talented players want to go Pro, they best get used to traveling around the country like Nfl does

[@terryfox9344]

Sorry guys, but I don't feel sorry for NBC. Those geniuses had the rights to broadcast Louisville-Notre Dame in week 4, and refused to allow it to be broadcast, and therefore was not Nielsen rated. That was a 4-6 million TV contest that NBC threw away, not even bothering to say, "No thanks!" You also may be over estimating Miami's ability to draw TV viewers. Yes, they had a 4 million game with Louisville, but what happened when they played Duke: 2 million. Hmmm. Miami had the best team that it has had in the last 20 years. I saw more Miami fans this year than I think that I have seen in the past 20 years combined. So they have fans in the good times, but will they have fans in the meh times?

[@terranceparker8838]

NOT TRUE AT ALL Miami games are always more popular than most other teams if you visit the bars all over the south

[@NOLES-wm3ly]

FSU, Miami to B1G. Clemson, UNC, UVA, Kansas to SEC.😮

[@VegasSage]

Where do you get your retro team t shirts? Love em. Thanks

[@jansonroberts2616]

A&M isn’t going to the B1G Ten. They aren’t going to leave the south and make all their student athletes compete across northern and northwestern US.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

You are a Mary-Otto-Ron-Olivia-Nancy to underestimate A&M's OFF field hatred of Austin!

[@jansonroberts2616]

@ Name calling? Really? The hate is real for. A&M isn’t going to take their student athletes up north no matter how many names you call. SMH.

[@davidfloyd9134]

Big10 needs into Texas & Florida

[@davidbrown386]

Texas is difficult. If A&M would reach out and say to the Big 10 we want to join, then you grab them. But that is about a 1% chance. Who else? SMU? TCU? Florida more likely (especially Miami). Why? SEC has no interest in Miami. The most logical pairing is Miami and Florida St. but if FSU goes SEC, USF or UCF are fallback options to go with Miami.

[@TheOtherGygax]

I don’t see Texas or Florida leaving the SEC. SEC money is about as good as the B1G.

[@davidbrown386]

I should have explained better I mean a Florida school not the Gators and a Texas school not the Longhorns. Of all Schools I think Miami is the most likely to end up in the Big 10 followed by Florida St. if they land them, and the SEC takes schools, the pressure is on ND

[@jansonroberts2616]

Doubtful that any available schools in Texas would really get serious consideration by the B1G Ten University Presidents. A&M nor Texas are leaving the SEC. Who else in Texas would be a valid candidate?

[@murkrow2316]

Toledo!! They actually have a winning record against the bottom of the BiG.Minnesota/Purdue . Have went to and beaten Both Michigan and A Joe Pa Ranked Penn State . Victories at Arkansas/Miss St/A Ranked Pitt. Toledo has given Alabama/Miami serious runs for their money as ranked teams.. That NIU victory at ND Toledo had the Irish on the ropes and lost in the last seconds in ND two years prior… Never going to happen but The Toledo Rockets need to be looked at for expansion by MW again a premier mid level program with many players drafted into NFL… A Record of 35-0 from 1969-1971 Graduated The ONLY undefeated QB in Div 1 history with 3 years worth of starts Chuck Ealy

[@mavrick6088]

Penn state not doing very well im shocked

[@observer46-vh5bm]

Hi, guys. Let's face it, the problem with CO is that it depends on one coach. As you said, once Deon goes, CO may go with it. Also this year, CO has what may be two of first five NFL draft choices. You posted this video before Miami stole a player under contract from Wisconsin. The B1G as a league has called out Miami and the Canes have certainly poisoned the well. I would not be shocked to see the Badgers, or even the B1G, sue the Hurricanes for interference with contract, etc., in a Wisconsin court. I believe that the B1G has agreed that no new members will be taken unless they more than pay for themselves. No "charity" cases. The B1G would love TAMU, but would A&M really leave the SEC?

[@robertofraire4102]

Colorado needs to do good for ten years to be considered as candidate. They are way to poor to be in the big ten 😂😂

[@adamlevine6087]

Duke and UNC to SEC for basketball

[@jeh58]

I wish the P2 would just stop. All of this crap just trickles down and hurts everyone below them.

[@stansifer70]

What?

[@jeh58]

@@stansifer70 Facts! See, I do that too.

[@CaydensDaddio]

Until ND decides to join, I think B1G stoos at 20 with Miami & FSU but I cannot dismiss GT's being in Atlanta. B1G loves big markets. If/When ND joins, I think Stanford, ASU & GT (or FSU).

[@thezendruid]

Notre dame is never joining the big 10

[@CaydensDaddio]

If/When

[@KevinSuggs-cy8xe]

FSU and Miami are stuck in the ACC. Grant of Rights can’t be overcome. Unless someone buys them out of it. Texas A&M has found a home in the SEC. Don’t know what the buyout is with Colorado.

[@johnathonolavarria7432]

That case will be in Florida. The ACC’s days are numbered.

[@Gh0stRider]

Georgia Tech showed up at least twice (vs FSU and vs GA). I think the B1G would love to be in Atlanta.

[@gnimmel5432]

GT actually had the most viewers for ACC teams at 3.6 million per game.

[@brandont2414]

I really hope we end up in this conference

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

You better get your AAU then.

[@scottpeterson765]

Big 10 can take CU so the Big 12 can back fill with Colorado State! Let’s go Rams!!

[@arecizzle]

Let's face it, the west coast culture doesn't follow college football like the midwest and the south does with the exception of USC. I mean as noted by these number Colorado is breaking their way in.

[@davidbrown386]

Obviously ND is the school that checks all the B1G boxes ( probably with Stanford, unless they asked for BC in return for going B1G (the Eagles do bring hockey)). But leaving them aside, it is obvious that Florida St from a TV and academics perspective makes perfect sense. I am a NO on Clemson. Why? I live in that Greenville/Asheville Market where Clemson is. Very small and questionable academics. Miami is a better choice ( TV market and academics). As for Colorado, they make sense even without Deon. Why? They ( along with ASU) bridges the gap between Nebraska and the west coast and would bring the B1G the fast growing Denver and Phoenix TV markets.

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

Florida State is a joke academically, sorry.

[@lukefletcher4689]

Great Video

[@The-one-person-you-remember]

What’s your thoughts on USF? Especially if we win the aac soon

[@daveowens9849]

You can tell you're B1G outsiders. AAU membership is a must. Nebraska was AAU when they joined, but lost it soon after. They're working hard to reclaim membership. Stanford and Cal are AAU, but they'll never be invited to protect USC/UCLA. And Stanford's enrollment numbers are very small. Smaller than Northwestern. Notre Dame is AAU and the B1G have been after them since 1899 but ND didn't show up to that initial meeting in 1899. ND is in the B1G Hockey league. Watch a lot of their hockey matches on the Big Ten Network. Miami is AAU, Clemson isn't. No go on Clemson. I doubt Miami would be invited. Small university enrollment when compared to the rest of the league. It would be like adding another Northwestern. Numbers matter. And Miami is a private university. University of South Florida is doing a lot of work on their facilities and they're AAU. Their enrollment is on par with USC. Good numbers there, and it would be a foothold in Florida. I do think Georgia Tech--an AAU school--could land an invite. Atlanta is a big tv market and would add a presence for the B1G in the south. But I doubt the B1G will extend an invitation to USF. I think we'll stand pat and still lust after Notre Dame.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Assuming your conference doesn't become the Western Athletic Conference in 1999! Ohio State and Michigan will probably tire of sharing revenue with Iowa and Washington eventually.

[@terencebaca1990]

The Big Ten will dissolve in 2030 because of equal revenue sharing. Just as the PAC 12 dissolved due to equal revenue sharing. Makes no sense for the biggest brands to put up with the unfairness. The biggest brands are going to bolt to form a new conference that allows member schools to negotiate their own TV deals with streaming companies in the market. They see it working great for Notre Dame. The status quo will not continue. And it’s not just the money that will cause Ohio State to bolt. That school is furious about always having to play the Big Noon game. So unfair.

[@kcdavis7718]

I hate how there isnt a power house in the ny and dmv area to draw viewership.

[@XxMarosyxX]

Give it time…. #The_Birthplace is coming

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@XxMarosyxX - And in ten years, you will still look like an idiot!

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Blame them for being terrible at assembling football programs.

[@jansonroberts2616]

LOL, all the noise about Texas A&M is coming from the B1G. We haven’t heard anyone that matters saying anything whatsoever coming out of A&M. Quite the opposite actually. They aren’t leaving the SEC. I can see Miami, Notre Dame and Colorado being the viable candidates that eventually could be realistic. If we see FSU get their AAU within the next 5 to 6 years, they’ll be a viable candidate as well. Maybe Utah with an outside slim chance as well if FSU can’t get their AAU.

[@stansifer70]

I hope the Big Ten doesn’t pick up Colorado because as soon as Deion is gone their rating will drop like a rock.

[@letitroll610]

Yep, or even with Deion if they lose a couple games early and/or don't have a Heisman hopeful, I watched a couple games this year, but won't be a regular viewer.

[@Joe-m2d]

A major recruiting area for Colorado is Texas. Colorado had many great years in Big 8/12. When they went to PAC 12 it hurt their recruiting. The money is great in B1G Ten but the recruiting for Colorado not so good. Look at what happened to Nebraska.

[@jansonroberts2616]

As long as Coach Sanders is at Colorado, recruiting and portal transfers won’t be a problem. What happens if and when Deon leaves? That’s the question in regard to Colorado.

[@ChrisSadowski-pp1np]

I think they would jump all over Texas A&M.

[@JosephMelendrez007]

Colorado has been an AAU school since 1962. I'd like to see Kansas move to the SEC to be a travel partner for Missouri. And Nebraska to the SEC along with Colorado as a travel partner.

[@davidbrown386]

Nebraska is NOT going SEC ( unless it is a trade for A&M). Kansas is a yes ( along with UNC, UVA Clemson or Duke)

[@Routetherapy10]

Virginia tech not Virginia​@@davidbrown386

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

@@davidbrown386No the s.e.c should take fla.st Clemson and N.C.

[@ExzurSaso]

How all this things if valuable teams r concern when The buckeyes and wolverines catapults year after year still these two competing Bigten and CFC ....other top programs in the Big10 must muscles their potential coz these two r dominating the entire college football....

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Sad truth is that college is like foreign soccer leagues. No parity due to how smart the schools you mentioned are.

[@RavenThom]

Except they want SEC, and SEC want's them.

[@rosskinzler8860]

It is not all football! Kansas is good in football and basketball

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

Boo! Look, the Big 10 does not have ESPN. They skip the reality that Texas and Oklahoma went from the Big 12 to the SEC because both conferences have ESPN. Texas and Oklahoma are worth more than these 4 targets. The ACC (ACC Network), SEC (SEC Network) and Big 12 all have ESPN. Nebraska joined the Big 10 when the conference had ESPN. All of those target on the thumbnails are within the ESPN ecosystem. No team is leaving the ESPN ecosystem to join the rival Big 10.

[@mmmcounts]

My brother in Christ, ESPN- all by itself- is singularly responsible for the ongoing implosion of the ACC. Those several members of the ACC will Absolutely go in all different directions, and some of those schools will continue to deal with ESPN in a different capacity (reluctantly I might add) and the rest will absolutely go in a different direction, for better or for worse. ESPN is not locking its partners in. It's exactly the opposite.

[@danzemacabre8899]

Big 10 doesn't care about ESPN, they have their own network that makes the conference money like crazy

[@webmoore4353]

ESPN coordinated Texas move to stop losing money in Longhorn network and fold that into SEC network run by ESPN and Texas required Oklahoma as a partner. Good point there. I do think k some schools would move but Texas for instance had no choice if they even wanted B1G (not saying they did), but long-term contract meant they couldn’t move. And that wasn’t just a regular media rights deal, LHN was separate and longer co tract. Fox does share with ESPN on B12. The other deals will cycle unlike LHN deal. I hate ESPN but they do sports well because they are dedicated to it and with partner network in ABC. B1G is getting paid but I agree that hurts them. Would have loved Texas in Big Ten. Any dirtier expansion unlikely unless ACC folds. Notre Dame going nowhere now that their access to championship reinforced. Guessing this stays as is for a bit. Maybe Bug Ten tries to grab Florida schools in a decade…

[@daveowens9849]

Well, I hate ESPN and glad we're not in cahoots with that channel. We have BTN and Fox...why do we need ESPN when that channel is downsizing left and right?

[@danzemacabre8899]

Here's the list from big 1o insiders, less on ratings more on markets and prestige , Duke Miami ,Virginia, N.Carolina, Georgia Tech, Stanford ,California,Kansas,Tulane , and of course Notre Dame ,I can pretty much say colorado.does not qualify ,

[@jansonroberts2616]

Look up flagship University in Florida and you will not find FSU listed. That would be The University of Florida Gators.

[@joshuaalexander8327]

Miami is actually the flagship university in FL way bigger brand.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@ Hahaha. Miami is a small private school. You obviously don’t know what being a flagship University means. Google is your friend and you can actually use it to learn what things mean when you don’t understand. Miami couldn’t be a flagship even if it was the only University in Florida. Thanks for the laugh.

[@daveowens9849]

And the Gators are AAU. FSU isn't.

[@nickwest2888]

Please come get my Hurricanes!!!

[@aCycloneSteve]

All this is BS. Your rating depend on the channel you're on & who you play. If the B1G was only on ESPN+ their numbers would suck.

[@XxMarosyxX]

UNC/UVA -> B1G NCST/VT -> SEC

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

And while we're at it: Clemson+Florida State to the Big "16" Stan+Cal BEGGING Washington State and Oregon State for forgiveness!

[@daver0104]

FSU and Miami will end up in the SEC if they move.

[@mickstevens6443]

TCU and Miami

[@stansifer70]

Nothing about Notre Dame. You guys are clueless.

[@danzemacabre8899]

They said them first but that's a dance that's been going on for 100 yrs, ND wants independence as far as their football scheduling and to negotiate their own tv contract while the charter members want them to conform into the league. But these guys are lost, big 10.wants nothing to do.with Colorado or Texas A&M or FSU they would snatch up Duke in heartbeat but that means You have to take UNC too ,I could see that, and they want a Florida market and Miami would be it probably with Kansas

[@rosskinzler8860]

ND plays ACC patsies. They have their own deal with CFP. B1G needs to stop their teams playing ND then ND will come begging

[@SOGWAP56]

The B1G MUST go to 4 bods of 5 schools. Which demands that 2 more schools must be added. Bringing in the right two schools with the power schools distributed through the 4 pods will fix this issue.

[@joe_zeay]

east coast pod : RU Psu MD Mia Fsu

[@joe_zeay]

west pod: Usc Ucla Neb Oreg Wash

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@joe_zeay - You are a Fred-Uma-Carl-Karla-Tom-Alice-Ron-Don if you think Nebraska is going to be in the same division with the Pac traitors! Utah would probably get that invite for the Pac traitor pod! Florida State has no AAU membership, so they won't get in.

[@joe_zeay]

FLst Miami are no-brainer additions at 19 & 20.

[@joe_zeay]

then if ND ever decides to give up independence... 21-24 can be ND GT UNC UVA

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@joe_zeay - 24 is just asking for a new "Mountain West" conference to be formed! Universities like Michigan and Ohio State will NOT like splitting the money 24 ways with dumpster fires like Rutgers and Purdue!

[@JohnDry-d7z]

No ND, and Stanford as well?

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Notre Dame has too much pride to budge. Stan and Cal are basically another Rutgers and Maryland at this point.

[@TXM33]

Texas A&M is not going to the B1G. FSU has been waiting for an invitation. Colorado would jump at the opportunity. Miami is a possibility. If the ACC can get a more lucrative TV deal, Miami probably stays.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Texas A&M hates Texas OFF field! Florida State has no AAU! Colorado would be morons to go to a conference with few western teams. Miami Hurricanes with their AAU membership makes them a high probability. ACC ain't getting a better TV deal from those piece of Sal--Hal-Ingrid-Tom networks!

[@schoolstuff5235]

ABC/Disney/ESPN are far more capable at doing sports than any B1G partner. There’s also the value of the advertising spend vs. the converted value of the viewer to take into account.

[@jgv1]

SEC needs Duke, UNC, UVA, and (VT or NCSU)

[@sir-game-alot7613]

No, it doesn't

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@sir-game-alot7613 - SEC, Big "16," Big "18," and especially the ACC needs to be the next Western Athletic Conference of 1999!

[@paulvarnell]

Breaking up Texas and Texas A&M again would be one of the worst travesties in CFB in decades. This doesn't just apply to football but baseball, basketball, and all other sports. The B1G shouldn't add anyone unless there is already built in rivalries for the new team. That is what the sport is built on. Not some NFL style league where geography means nothing.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Blame Texas for being Alice-Sal-Sam-Harry-Otto-Lisa-Ed-Steve! That's why A&M, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado and Arkansas left in the first place. See the reversed penalty call in the first Georgia game. To be fair, NFL DIVISIONAL rivalries are (mostly) geographical, and there are some pretty big ones there too (the usual Bay Area vs. Hollywood, Wisconsin vs. Illinois and Philadelphia vs. New York vs. Boston rivalries). Anyway, the overbloated conferences are going to implode anyway (eventually) like what happened to the Western Athletic Conference in 1999. Splitting the money pie multiple ways will be what ends this coast-to-coast nonsense!

[@paulvarnell]

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 Having Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, and LSU all in the same conference is as geographically tight as you could hope for. So I actually like that move. I hate how the NFL splits up so many local teams: Houston AFC Dallas NFL NY Giants NFC NY Jets AFC LA Chargers AFC LA Rams NFC this ruins many would be great in-state NFL rivalries. Don't want the B1G to cause the same issue in CFB.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@paulvarnell - The SEC is smart (for now) in not expanding beyond their borders (though Oklahoma, Texas and A&M are pushing it), but you are naive if you think Texas-Austin is NOT going to ruin/destroy the SEC the same way they did to the Big 12 and Southwest! And the reason the NFL is like that is because ALL of the AFL teams survived the merger, and the AFL teams wanted to keep their coast-to-coast interdivisional rivalries with each other (Raiders vs. Jets etc.). In other words, the Super Bowl is basically "AFL" vs. "NFL" Same with MLB too. Of course, the MLB finally figured out how to pull off a round-robin schedule recently with a pain in the rear 162 game schedule. I will say this, the NFL is blowing the opportunity to do yearly interconference rivalries now that they have the 17 game season. It could be something like this: L.A. Rams vs. L.A. Chargers Dallas vs. Houston Chicago vs. Indianapolis (right next door to each other, state and metro wise) Detroit vs. Cleveland (see above) Philadelphia vs. Pittsburgh N.Y. Giants vs. N.Y. Jets Washington vs. Baltimore Since the rest is so spread out in many combinations, I'd probably rotate in these groups: San Jose/Seattle/Arizona vs. Las Vegas/Denver/Kansas City Minnesota/Green Bay vs. Tennessee/Cincinnati New Orleans/Tampa Bay vs. Jacksonville/Miami Atlanta/Charlotte vs. Buffalo/New England You are lucky that the ABA and WHA were poorly runned leagues to the point only four teams per league survived the "merger" with the NBA and NHL respectively, and thus why it's geographical instead of spread-out.

[@paulvarnell]

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 Makes sense. Yeah it's not like the NFL PLANNED to have teams in the same city in difference conferences. It just happened that way due to the merger of the AFL and NFL, like you mentioned. But you are right about the NFL dropping the ball about having teams like the Texans and Cowboys hardly ever play. No reason not to make that happen more often. There is more than enough games in a season.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@paulvarnell - Using an example from my opinions, and based on the opponents for next season, this is what the schedule could look like while also dealing with those neutral site games in the interest of fairness. Here's how a schedule currently works using the Rams 2025-26 as an example: Play an entire interconference division (vs. AFC South. Host Indianapolis and Houston, visit Tennessee and Jacksonville). Play an entire interdivisional division (vs. NFC South. Host New Orleans and Tampa Bay, visit Atlanta and Charlotte). Play two interdivisional opponents from the other two divisions based on strength of schedule (Host NFC North's Detroit, visits NFC East's Philadelphia). Play a fifth interconference opponent based on strength of schedule from one of the three remaining divisions (AFC North's Baltimore). Home-and-home against the three division rivals (San Jose, Seattle and Arizona of the NFC West) Since some interconference rivalries would happen twice on years when that team is playing their rivals division, you'd have to schedule carefully in order to keep the location rotation in tact. For example, Cleveland is scheduled to visit Detroit next season as they played in Cleveland in 2021. That means the 5th interconference match-up would have to be Detroit@Cleveland for both of them. With the neutral site games being one of the two interdivisional match-ups based on strength of schedule, SOS would have to be thrown out since Cleveland would have to be a home sacrifice while Detroit would be a designated road team in a neutral site game in the interest of fairness. Obviously, no interconference rivalry (or game for that matter) should ever be played in a London or Wyoming etc. So based off of this, the match-ups would be as followed. *Interconference rivalries:* L.A. Chargers@L.A. Rams Denver@Arizona San Jose@Kansas City Seattle@Las Vegas Dallas@Houston N.Y. Giants@N.Y. Jets New Orleans@Jacksonville Pittsburgh@Philadelphia Baltimore@Washington Indianapolis@Chicago Tennessee@Minnesota Green Bay@Cincinnati Detroit@Cleveland Charlotte@Buffalo New England@Atlanta Miami@Tampa Bay For those neutral site games, the home teams listed above would sacrifice a home game against an interdivisional opponent from one of the two divisions you aren't playing all four of, and it'd be one of the visiting teams listed above. An example including neutral site locations could be, Detroit vs. L.A. Rams in London Green Bay vs. Arizona in Wyoming San Jose vs. Washington in Sao Paulo Seattle vs. Philadelphia in Halifax N.Y. Giants vs. Atlanta in Hawaii Dallas vs. Tampa Bay in Berlin New Orleans vs. Chicago in Memphis Charlotte vs. Minnesota in Norman Baltimore vs. Kansas City in Mexico City Pittsburgh vs. Las Vegas in London L.A. Chargers vs. Buffalo in Madrid Denver vs. N.Y. Jets in Canton (why not make the Hall of Fame Game have meaning?) Miami vs. Houston in Hawaii New England vs. Jacksonville in London Indianapolis vs. Cincinnati in Hawaii Tennessee vs. Cleveland in Louisville This leaves the remaining interdivisional match-ups like this. L.A. Rams@Dallas Arizona@N.Y. Giants Philadelphia@Charlotte Washington@New Orleans Tampa Bay@Detroit Atlanta@Green Bay Minnesota@Seattle Chicago@San Jose Kansas City@Miami Las Vegas@New England Buffalo@Indianapolis N.Y. Jets@Tennessee Houston@Baltimore Jacksonville@Pittsburgh Cincinnati@L.A. Chargers Cleveland@Denver Lots of brain power to set it all up, but it's worth it. Too bad the NFL owners and Goodell have the intelligence of a sign post when it comes to scheduling and booking (remember the cancelled Buffalo@Cincinnati fiasco from a couple of years ago?).

[@wcfenderson5609]

Nobody wants to watch the Oregon Ducks? 😂😂😂

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Did you even pay attention to the numbers?

[@webmoore4353]

I don’t think anyone in B1G would support the case for Clemson. I do think Miami and FSU are a possibility. Then staying at 20 for a long while. ACC will backfill with another Florida mid tier school

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

If the ACC doesn't fall apart first! Also, Clemson and Florida State has no AAU membership, so scratch them.

[@thezendruid]

Notre Dame is never ever going to join the big 10. You guys need to read up on your history between Notre Dame and the big 10 schools. We will stay independent and keep our nil money for ourselves.. go Irish☘️

[@TheBigMountainPodcast]

We didn’t say they would. And this was an exercise in looking at increasing the Big Ten Media Value.

[@jgv1]

Big 10 could use Stanford, California, Utah and Colorado ... that's allows a western branch for better schedules

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Catch-22, the Big "18" becomes a Big "22" meaning an 18 way money split becomes a 22 way split. The stupid idiot networks responsible for this mess (mostly) is going to (eventually) run out of money!

[@bannedgunner]

Keep in mind that number of viewers by itself means little. Who is doing the watching also matters. Advertisers could care less if millions of bubbas from rural south are tuned in to watch. They will cough out l a lot more for 200 thousands eyes from big cities. This is why even with large viewers Nebraska is not considered as valuable as Maryland.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Which is no good when those "big cities" DON'T watch!

[@ScottFarris-y7u]

B1G needs a Florida school and a Texas school. Clemson w/ its proximity to Atlanta is another plus but getting a Texas and Florida team should be a priority

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Clemson has no AAU, so scratch them.

[@NOLES-wm3ly]

FSU, Mia to B1G. Clem, UNC, UVA, Kansas to SEC

[@Dr.BatmanPhD]

Don’t sleep on Arizona Stats as a candidate either.

[@sir-game-alot7613]

lol. You are so funny bro!

[@webmoore4353]

I don’t think anyone in B1G would support the case for Clemson. I do think Miami and FSU are a possibility. Then staying at 20 for a long while. ACC will backfill with another Florida mid tier school