The Citroën CX Story

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4 жыл бұрын

When I was small we went to a Citroën dealership to look at the CX and I was struck by just how odd-looking this French creation was. With the rear wheels half covered, my child’s brain wondered just how changing a flat tyre worked, and the car sat low like the suspension was broken or something. I poured over the brochure at home, and strange things like the linear speedometer dazzled my young mind, amazed by this crazy space-age creation from a far-off land. The CX was the last car produced by an independent Citroën. With the company going into meltdown during development it was starved of resources, but it’s another Citroën design classic that’s worth celebrating today.
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@silkdestroyer
@silkdestroyer Ай бұрын
In 1976 I was a16 yr old, doing a bike ride from Durham to Cornwall during the school hols. Leaving a café at Looe, in Cornwall, a car cruised into the car park which was the first car I remember making me stop and stare after it. I learned that it was a CX. I now own a 1985 2.5 Pallas auto, recently re-commissioned and back on the road after a 16yr lay off. I love driving it and have to say that I much prefer the rocker mounted, non-self cancelling indicators. They stay on until I decide that I have finished with them! I also, as it happens, have a 1989, series one 2.0 Si XM, and a recently imported 1973 SM. I just love Citroen's sales flops!
@MrMoelbach
@MrMoelbach 2 жыл бұрын
I have had 7 CX cars, including a 2.4 Prestige 1982 and my last was a Break with automatik gear. They were all fantastisk cars and I still love Them.I started ud the Danish CX-Clubsandwich Denmark wich is still aktive. Aften that I Got A XM and then.......The 2CV..my word. IF there is A car, that I MUST have again, it Will be the 2 CV.. Thanks for your fabulous programs. Continue please. Kindest regards from Denmark. 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
@boelwerkr
@boelwerkr 3 жыл бұрын
My dad liked the CX we had two of them bought used. Both later models with a diesel engine. Together he drove them for over 17 years. Robust engine but the body would rust through when you spit on it. We also had a trailer. We drove every summer to France, Italy or Spain. Three boys on the backseat, paying one cassette "he man masters of the universe" nonstop for 14 hours. :-) I was with him when we drove the second CX to the junkyard. The motor died with a bang on the driveway to the junkyard. :-)
@jourwalis-8875
@jourwalis-8875 3 жыл бұрын
It was not a "quirky" mushroom "pedal" at all! This is the most sophisticated brake "pedal" there is! Gives the best, most effective and fastest brake action of any other design!
@phukewe6034
@phukewe6034 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your films, brilliant and much appreciated.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
@WayneTheBoatGuy 3 жыл бұрын
In 1982 or 1983 we went to the big UK car show (I was about 14 so I don’t remember the city) but saw this car there and fell in love with everything about it. Alas, I’ve never had one or even driven one.
@danp9551
@danp9551 4 жыл бұрын
Up until their merger with Peugeot, pretty much every car produced by Citroën deserves its own chapter in automotive history books. Everything they did was just so beautifully non-conventional and daring. They experimented so much and pioneered concepts well ahead of their time, coming up with exceptionally quirky technological solutions. It's a shame that society puts so little value on character and individuality in cars (or most other things, for that matter). The herd mentality is just too strong within the human race. I guess one could say we never really deserved Citroën...
@Journey_Awaits
@Journey_Awaits 4 жыл бұрын
Now SUVs are taking us back to the 80s
@oliviersimonnin6983
@oliviersimonnin6983 Жыл бұрын
I do agree 👍! Citroën is a strange mixture of the best concepts and the worst making; either you love it, or you hate it... ? Not enough to get money back to PSA "Peugeot Société Anonyme", owner of Citroën to improve the deserved second life of this car, even if Peugeot had never to see with the CX, engineered by Citroën on its own. 😢
@rickcollin5600
@rickcollin5600 4 күн бұрын
I loved my 3 DS's and my CX Prestige as well as my 4 Saabs and miss them all
@computer_toucher
@computer_toucher 6 ай бұрын
I learned to drive in a 1983 CX 20 at 16, and when the electronics fried we got a 24 Pallas. Both with the old cylindrical meters. Most comfortable car ever. Such a cruiser; drove it several 24-hour, 1500 km trips in a few years. And had it on a bumpy country road at 160 Km/h once. A true legend, e: Interior just like @10:40
@Da51lva
@Da51lva 4 жыл бұрын
My father had one... Worth a lot of money now
@rogerdavis5053
@rogerdavis5053 3 жыл бұрын
A worthy successor to the Goddess of which I have owned three. I had a 1980 CX2400 Pallas CMatic and it did not lack power towing a large caravan all around Europe in 1986. I also had a Citroen SM for nigh in 10 years and it never let e down once.
@nosecretsbass7471
@nosecretsbass7471 6 ай бұрын
I've owned many CXs, from a very early S1 2400 Super through 2.0 Douvrin engines, 2500 Diesel Safari and 25RI Familiale to a S2 25GTI Turbo. Varying degrees of reliability, but I loved them all. Fantastic, characterful and ridiculously comfortable
@michelnormandin8068
@michelnormandin8068 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 72 DS 21 Spéciale in august 74. The most confortable cruiser I ever drove and the most expensive car to keep on the road in Montréal. That car got me more easy pick ups than a Ferrari at the time.
@Jones-xx2gc
@Jones-xx2gc 4 жыл бұрын
I worked in a Citroen / Vauxhall garage for my first job in 1979. Those new Citroens had the most beautiful new car smell.
@tfleiter
@tfleiter 4 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree: the CX Turbodiesel was definitely the best long distance cruiser we ever owned. It was super comfortable - actually on a totally different level compared to the BMWs, Mercedes or Jaguars of the time. It was like a magic carpet ride. Totally smooth and effortless. You could drive it for hours and emerge relaxed from this car. Sure - it had some weird controls but they were all really ergonomically correct. Was also great as a “pacifier” for our young son at the time: it took only 5 min driving around in this really big car that had slow body movements like a big ship to make him fall asleep! And then it was time to listen to some music and let the landscape just float by....Fantastic piece of engineering - no doubt.
@smhorse
@smhorse 4 жыл бұрын
The DTR/TRD was best in its final form, with an intercooler. It is said that it is still possible to tune it for higher output, using a different pump and injectors. Not sure if anyone's actually done this.
@pajapajser4554
@pajapajser4554 3 жыл бұрын
The most handsome car 😎 Here, in Belgrade, Serbia, there was one, parked in front of the Australian Embassy, with 3 rows of seats.. for me, the piece of art...
@WarCrimeGaming
@WarCrimeGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Citroens were quite popular in Yugoslavia, weren't they?
@pajapajser4554
@pajapajser4554 3 жыл бұрын
@@WarCrimeGaming actually, yes. We had a company named Cimos, in Yugoslavia which assembled Citroen's vehicles. It was in Slovenia, now an independent country. Dyane and 2cv were very popular, and GS as well.
@arthurswart4436
@arthurswart4436 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at a Dutch magazine and newspaper distribution company in the 1980s. Every morning French magazines and newspapers were delivered bij two streched triple axle CX's. These cars did about 180 km/u while loaded with about 1500kg of paper. Often the French newspapers were available before the Dutch versions arrived at newsstands. These cars were an amazing sight, three wheels on each side and a jet fighter like cockpit with a single seat for the driver.
@hans-peterwagner4997
@hans-peterwagner4997 6 ай бұрын
Yes, everybody knows the Loadrunners of Tissier, Pijpops or Mikes Garage - up to 2 t freight on 3 axles with nearly 200 km/h BUT a fullstop with the relatively narrow but high shouldered tyre and the standard breaksystem would have been impossible in an emergency break-situation. It is like the first generation of Mercedes Sprinter or the 1990´s VW LT-series with very high top speed combined with very weak tyre and very small breaks. But as a driver you always look at the top speed.
@Elven_de_Bieuzy_An_Ozhac-h
@Elven_de_Bieuzy_An_Ozhac-h 3 жыл бұрын
DS & SM are iconic cars today, they are true masterpieces ! This is not the case with the CX !
@stevesutton9444
@stevesutton9444 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bursting my eardrums at 0.48
@budgiebirb75
@budgiebirb75 4 жыл бұрын
I am restoring a 1985 CX 25 GTi here in Australia. I get some amazing looks as well as having met some good people!
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to source parts there or do you have to import?
@mj-mr5yu
@mj-mr5yu Ай бұрын
Lucky you, beautiful car good luck with the rebuild from ,🇮🇪
@nickparker4875
@nickparker4875 3 жыл бұрын
At 72 I have owned many cars. 2 x Aston Martins. 1x 911. 1 x850CSI. 1 x 840 Mtec. 3 x XJ6. But also 4 CXs inc 1 Pallas (the slowest car in the world). They were the most enjoyable cars to drive of anything I have ever owned. Thank you Citroen.
@glynnwright1699
@glynnwright1699 4 жыл бұрын
I had a front offside tyre blow out on my CX when on the motorway, there was virtually no indication through the steering wheel that anything had happened, apart from the increased noise. I steered the car with no problem at all into the stopping lane by the side of the motorway. It was one of the best cars I have had, really excellent on long motorway journeys.
@Golo1949
@Golo1949 4 жыл бұрын
Strange! I have just written the very same thing, such a safe car to drive.
@glynnwright1699
@glynnwright1699 4 жыл бұрын
@@Golo1949 It happened on the A1M about 1982, just North of Hatfield. There was so little fuss, even though I was doing a bit more than 70 (along with everyone else) that it took me 10-15 seconds to guess what had happened.
@trespire
@trespire 3 жыл бұрын
What other make can perform that party trick ? Non that I know off.
@cliff9455
@cliff9455 3 жыл бұрын
I hit a 3 inch tall brick on the road, the car only swayed a little, no damage to car or tires
@cliff9455
@cliff9455 3 жыл бұрын
@John Stone The explorer is stone age compared to the Citroen . Your explorer thumped its way across that brick, it dont have an integrated self leveling suspension. Rolls Royce bought the rights to put it on their cars, does that tell you anything? The only thing close is the Lincoln Mk VIII
@michaelkelly8003
@michaelkelly8003 3 жыл бұрын
Had a CX Familiale which was quirky but fab for long trips with a big family. Maddest car I've owned, eventually replaced with an Espace
@LouwtjieJoubert
@LouwtjieJoubert 22 күн бұрын
Citroën is shown it is so advanced before its time
@Golo1949
@Golo1949 4 жыл бұрын
In the 80s I had the Reflex, I loved it very easy to drive and very safe. I had a flat tyre on the front once but the car never showed any hint, I stopped because I heard a funny noise and the passenger tyre was completely flat, no pulling on the steering. I had to sell it because the wife thought it too big to drive.
@Golo1949
@Golo1949 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention I later swapped my 12 seat minibus for a BX on my memory of the CX. sadly it was the worse care I have ever had, what went wrong went wrong, but I still like Citroen's. As well as a Lexus GS300 I still have the Xsara Picasso, a really practical car.
@waynedenning3320
@waynedenning3320 3 жыл бұрын
Had a Blue 79 cx2400, was a magnificent drive and surprisingly quick on the highway I used to love blowing people's minds in traffic by playing with the suspension I miss it still
@geoffjones2031
@geoffjones2031 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great Citroen CX video. In the graphic where you mention the Peugeot 605 and Talbot Tagora the Peugeot (red or orange) is a 505, not a 605, and it was in fact the 505 which gave its rear axle to the Talbot Tagora. The Peugeot 604 was already in production at that time, and had been for a while and it used the 2664cc PRV V6 Douvrain engine. Yet another reason why the PSA range was too numerous and final investment on the doomed Tagora was very limited. It's possible you meant to say Peugeot 604, but the photo is anyway a 505. Keep up the good work and thanks.
@munawarazad413
@munawarazad413 3 жыл бұрын
Citroen is my loved brand While in Dubai, Ibought a '78 CX, moment I got in used car market after Volvo 164 E..in year 79.. 2 years later got a damaged pallas and a burnt CX Prestige.Built Pallas with prestige power plant. Both cars were C Matic transmissionl. Ultimate luxury with safety. Cotroen have yet to come to India
@blitzroehre1807
@blitzroehre1807 4 жыл бұрын
I fondly remember mine, a 1983 GTI 5speed I got in 87 when I was still at trade school. Nobody wanted it because it was factory painted a strange Pink-Beige, got it dirt cheap because I then just could not afford a Golf GTI, XR3, Pug 205 etc like my mates had. I had not planned it as a keeper, but ended up owning it for 6 yrs, got the shop manual and maintained it well, it never let me down except on 2 occasions where it needed new alternator brushes, no idea why they wore so fast.. It turned into a proper chick magnet from the laughing stock it was at first, the girls would prefer to hitch a ride to the discos or concerts in the CX because in addition to the fast and incredibly comfy ride which didnt ruin the hairdo, it was fitted by me with the most elaborate Car CD HiFi by Kenwood where I ran a second woofer amp in the trunk with a huge bass shaker in a custom box. That was something unheard of back then. My GTI/XR3 mateys quit joking about my pink tart spacecraft after a while. I sold it for way more than I paid for it because of the immaculate condition and the stereo system just to make way for an Audi 200 Turbo, which I deeply regretted later, another story :-) P.S. Thumbs up from those ex-CX owners here if you also had a tube of superglue in your glovebox to re-fasten those arbitrary bits of interior trim which kept falling off while driving XD
@nolanr1400
@nolanr1400 Жыл бұрын
I 'm sure you didn't need any glue to fix anything on the Audi hahaha
@bumfluffmcregor3730
@bumfluffmcregor3730 Жыл бұрын
It never let you down except twice
@HerrSchmitti
@HerrSchmitti Жыл бұрын
@@nolanr1400 Audis of that time are a whoooole different story. They are much worse. (1980s) My experience is actually best with the french vehicles between 1990 and 2000. Citroën and Peugeot from that time still hold up: no cracks, fresh colors, new feel, no bleaching etc.... Compare that to any German brand and you have a definite winner. But German marketing was always good. German best they say, German best everyone believe.
@fredericducomet.boquier7920
@fredericducomet.boquier7920 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job ! As usual ! Thanks !
@stephenmorgan6930
@stephenmorgan6930 Жыл бұрын
Remember seeing a CX Estate on a showroom forecourt when I was a nipper, and thought it looked like a giant spaceship! And as I was something of a Citroen champion at school (following a family holiday where we hired a BX), the teasing I got when the CX had appeared in an episode of Chocky, and the sneering alien entity made fun of it!
@Happymali10
@Happymali10 4 ай бұрын
I'm a bit shocked that you mentioned camera platform use and ambulances, but skipped over the "Loadrunner" and its copies with their wonderfully weird six wheels (all on hydropneumatic)
@jacovanlith5082
@jacovanlith5082 3 жыл бұрын
I drove the CX 2000 for more than 11 years. Never any problem. Outsiders without a CX tell the bad stories on this car.
@robicenco1
@robicenco1 3 жыл бұрын
Cars today are technically amazing, but they kind of all look the same. Cars in those days had real character and some of them looked sensational. This is one of the most distinctive-looking cars ever made. Angular but beautiful.
@JonLondrezos
@JonLondrezos 3 жыл бұрын
I have travelled in one of these gems and the ride was better than that of today's saloons.
@marciocarvalho8975
@marciocarvalho8975 2 жыл бұрын
Since i was child(i am from 76) always see citroen design as something out of the standard concepts. Meaning that i am portuguese 🙂 portuguese from the small Village. I love the citro way of be! If i have a french brand of car that would be citroen. Sorry the bad writing
@dafyddllewellyn6636
@dafyddllewellyn6636 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a CX 2400 Pallas as a second-hand car in about 1992. It was priced way down, in what was basically a Ford dealership. Being used to Peugeots, the fact that the steering was oscillating violently from right to left did not perturb me; I took it home and replaced the steering flector (the rubber disc that couples the steering governor to the rack and pinion - a half-hour job costing about $15.) The hydraulic system had fortunately not been contaminated by using ATF instead of LHM, but somebody had replaced the O-ring in the master accumulator with a standard nitrile one, which gave out a month later. So a systematic exercise of exchanging the suspension and master accumulator spheres with freshly re-charged ones (it cost about $15 per sphere to do this), with the correct O-rings, fixed those problems. You had to do this about every two years, the test being to set the suspension at its normal road height, and with the motor idling, get out and try to lift the car by the front or rear bumper bar - if the spheres were in good condition, you could lift it about 4 inches. The only trouble the hydraulic system gave after that, was due to the moulded rubber couplings in the low-pressure side (which returns LHM to the reservoir) cracking due to age, which caused LHM to leak. The cooling system was not fully developed - a symptom of Citroen's parlous financial state - it needed an air dam at the back of the radiator intake under the nose - and the two-stage English-built cross-flow radiator had an internal leak - I converted it to a simple cross-flow radiator, after which it cooled properly. European cars pre about 1995 were evidently designed for a maximum air temperature of 40C; they needed to be modified so they could handle 50C - once that was done, it became a completely practical motor car. I was using the car to commute between Toowoomba and Tamworth; at that stage, the police radar could not detect the Citroen, so I could do that trip very comfortably in 4 1/2 hours, at 30 miles per gallon. I purchased the car with about 180,000 miles on the odometer, and overhauled the motor at 300,000 miles (it blew its head gasket due to corrosion from the wrong coolant); it was a wet-sleeve engine, so I took the sleeves out and polished out the wear at the top of the bore, gave it new pistons and bearings, and put it back together - discovering in the process that it was one of the very few cars with pressure feed to the gudgeon pins). It did a further 250,000 miles, most of it at 80 mph, and I have never come across as good a cross-country car, or one as comfortable. Yes, you have to learn a specific driving style for a Citroen, and you cannot take it to any local maintenance organisation; and it was not really happy driving about town - and had Citroen ironed out these bugs, it would have been a world-beater. The later CX2500 with fuel injection achieved the full potential of the design - but far too late.
@BenTV73
@BenTV73 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video some of your figures were a bit wrong though. The GTi turbo had a claimed 168bhp with performance figures of 137mph & 0-60 in 8.0secs. When I was eight years old my dad had a 2200 pallas it was the first car I remember him having with electric windows & power steering with arm chairs for seats lovely car until a lorry went down the side of it & wrote it off.
@JoriDiculous
@JoriDiculous 4 жыл бұрын
We had a 2.5L Turbo CX one of the last models, and is today still the best car i have ever driven, including new citroën's. You can drive for hours without being tired or road fatigue thanks to the hydraulics and the seats. Amazing.
@sb1056sb
@sb1056sb 3 жыл бұрын
My grandad had a CX GTi Turbo 2, a very rare automatic version. I loved that car and it was quick.
@darransykes5703
@darransykes5703 3 жыл бұрын
My father had the Citroen GSA Special and a girl i fancied back in the day, her father had the Citroen Deluxe estate. Now that was a massive beast! My father's GSA was in my mind, the best family car he ever bought wiht the funny black hand brake handle on the dash board
@LongfordGer
@LongfordGer Жыл бұрын
Firstly, just a nitpick on the technical data. The CX GTi produced 138bhp. It felt quick and responsive with fuel injection compared to the wheezy carburetted version. The GTi Turbo was 168bhp, with fantastic torque and interesting 1980s turbo lag where you had to wait for 'warp drive' to kick in! I owned 6 CXs in total. The first was a very tired CX2400 Pallas with a single carburetter. The next was a visually decrepit 1980 CX2400GTi manual that I purchased for £100 in 1986. It was a true street sleeper, really torquey and fast away from standstill. I ran it for 2 years and eventually scrapped it after another major hydraulic failure. Then I had a CX2500GTi automatic for a while; nice but not too exciting. Next CX was a 1985 CX2500 GTi Turbo1 (non-intercooled) with colour coded metal bumpers. I never got this car to work properly because a previous owner had run it low on oil and cooked some crankshaft bearings. It would run great but with oil temperatures of 130-135 degC; right on the threshold where mineral oil starts to break down..... I then had a 1986 CX2500 GTI Turbo 1 with colour coded plastic bumpers and new interior design, and with air-con! This was a very nice car and I drove it on my honeymoon in France. Sold it and bought a scruffy 1987 CX2500 GTi Turbo 2, the intercooled version. This was a fantastic car, easily spinning the wheels if you floored it away from the traffic lights, my best CX really as regards fun. This and the Auto had sunroofs which had both deteriorated and leaked. The GTI Turbo 2 was already scruffy (mechanical marvel but cosmetic nightmare), so I just used Duck tape to keep water out of the sunroof!! I developed an intimate knowledge of the mechanics and electrics of these cars over several (I am a mechanical engineer by background, not a mechanic!). The cars were mechanically good, if 'interesting', but an absolute shitshow electrically. I had my fun, got over it, then bought a rusty 1987 Jaguar XJS 3.6, to prove what an idiot I was!
@JohnKerr-bq3vo
@JohnKerr-bq3vo Жыл бұрын
I recall my CX was a 2400 L and luved it.... in 1976
@ABCDEF-yf4yu
@ABCDEF-yf4yu 3 жыл бұрын
The big brother of the Citroen GS. The CX estate being driven with a television camera was the best car for filming horse races.
@johnwaga3702
@johnwaga3702 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Citroen were truly innovative with the Traction Avant, 2CV, DS, SM, GS and CX. Its a shame their engines were not as advanced as the cars themselves. Sadly once Citroen lost its independence it also lost its spirit.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 2 жыл бұрын
Next video is about the DS!
@johnwaga3702
@johnwaga3702 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigCar2 I look forward to that!
@kennethkoswener485
@kennethkoswener485 Жыл бұрын
I still have may CX2.5 Break in the USA, imported as a CXA. Best car that I have ever owned, every which way.
@reburdoc4647
@reburdoc4647 4 жыл бұрын
I had a CX 2400 C-Matic the three speed gearbox with a fluid flywheel. 0 to 111 nph in top but I never found her slow using 2/nd & top. The CX a relaxing long distance cross country car to drive on mediocre roads. Annoying bumper chasers couldn't live with CX on sharp bends but the same applied for our Morris Ital estate shopping car neither driven to there limit. I road tested the new XM for a magazine finding bends I would zip around with the CX the XM broke away at the front. When a garage bent CX chassis I moved to a SD1
@stephendodge4086
@stephendodge4086 3 жыл бұрын
I have had three Citroen CX in the past if, Citroen started to make them again then I would not hesitate in buying one again.
@TheAllMightyGodofCod
@TheAllMightyGodofCod 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a small kid my doctor had a CX Pallas break and the pharmaceutical had a CX 2.5 turbo GTi prestige and he's wife the Pallas. As a result I always wanted to get sick just to see the cars, special raising to get going. "Peugeot promised to keep Citröen a separate product line" well, we all know how that went....
@adelaide7822
@adelaide7822 4 жыл бұрын
I think a rotary swapped CX would be quite fun to drive tbh.
@BaddaBigBoom
@BaddaBigBoom 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, nice to hear it being properly "Citroën" as opposed to what most people say "Cit-rin".
@donaljamescaddye3805
@donaljamescaddye3805 4 жыл бұрын
I seen a lad try to handbrake turn one of them - she locked the front wheels and duly buried herself into a wall at the bottom of a supermarket car park ! I laughed at the time but now I cringe at the thought ! A forgotten classic !
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
Its like a spaceship!
@01782644468
@01782644468 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God, the Citroen CX!! My Dad bought a 1978 CX 2000 in the early 80s when I was a kid, it was like a space-ship with the rotary speedo etc etc and like a limo to ride in! The first of several, including a Prestige. But, being Citroens of a certain period, when they go wrong, they go Wrong.....
@georgevavoulis4758
@georgevavoulis4758 8 ай бұрын
Decades later still way ahead of its time . Like a spaceship on four wheels . Too bad Citroën stopped selling cars in North America in 1974
@penzlic
@penzlic 4 жыл бұрын
Last of the original flying carpets
@MrGeocidal
@MrGeocidal 3 жыл бұрын
Why did the land of the free have so many draconian laws regarding cars?
@flemmingsorensen5470
@flemmingsorensen5470 4 жыл бұрын
My dream car as a child - and it still is, and now I have turned 51 !!! 😉👍
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Жыл бұрын
I saw a CX in a U.S. parking lot in the early oughts. It looked to be about a 1982 model. People were asking if it was a new Toyota or a hybrid from another brand. When I said I thought it was a 20 year old French car, people thought I was crazy. Eventually, the owner showed up and said, "yeah, it's 20+ years old.". That's what I love about Citroens. They always look both classic and futuristic.
@PaulHojda
@PaulHojda 4 жыл бұрын
God, i love the CX's design
@andreventer7024
@andreventer7024 3 жыл бұрын
If you are talking to God, you don't have to be on youtube. Hehe
@linguafranca86
@linguafranca86 3 жыл бұрын
Dutch saxophone player Benjamin Herman made a music album about the Cirtoën SM. The album is called "Project S" You can find it on Spotify.
@fordlandau
@fordlandau 3 жыл бұрын
I made my father buy one. Gold metallic. Pallas semi automatique. Superb car.
@rankobanic2074
@rankobanic2074 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the class could produce vehicles this sublime today. Cx was very present here, for officials and as ambulances; I believe assembled at Cimos... One probably saved my life as a child, but also dignity, since it had taken me from Pag to Zadar with salmonela or something sans souci 1xx, maybe as much as 160; on a derelict regional with only suspension noise and me conversing with my mother. Low,slender roof, lower of two... I miss such ambulances and hate the vans, so cumbersome, stiff as well. I couldn't claim which was more sound, but still, an icon of a healthier time...
@marcelbruinsma
@marcelbruinsma 4 жыл бұрын
But replacing lightbulbs in the cockpit was a hellish job.
@chrislemaster2695
@chrislemaster2695 6 ай бұрын
We had the CX in the USA from 1987-1989.
@mikasm3717
@mikasm3717 4 жыл бұрын
Last Citroën made by independent company was Traction Avant. After bankruptcy in 1934 Michelin became owner of Citroën in 1935.
@niallmckeown1892
@niallmckeown1892 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@markdavis2475
@markdavis2475 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Citroen seriously had a model called "TRD"! Guess the could have called it "MRD" instead! I remember the Grace Jones adverts from 1980,s! I liked my GS and BX but rust and an RTA killed them both!
@owensmith8467
@owensmith8467 3 жыл бұрын
Think they rebadged them for UK as DTR, at least on the BX. 😂😂😂
@oliviersimonnin6983
@oliviersimonnin6983 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I almost forgot: a BIG thank to the Big car team for sharing and all its work 👍👏!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks - from all the team, oh it’s just me!
@oliviersimonnin6983
@oliviersimonnin6983 Жыл бұрын
@@BigCar2 Thank you Sir, for all what you did! 😉
@antonmealy168
@antonmealy168 Жыл бұрын
An interesting factor in the CX development was a technical agreement between Citroen and Lancia, so that the CX shared it's manual transaxle with the Lancia Beta. Both transverse fwd however the CX motor was canted forward for frt weight biased for straight line stability & packaging while Beta was canted rearward for more balanced handling. While the Beta berlina packaging and styling fits suspiciously well between CX & GS if it did not have 'conventional' suspension & a sporty twin-cam ..... CX full length subframe certainly didn't aid maintenance though remembering the cost of replacing the clutch upon dad's '76 2200 Pallas.
@opencurtin
@opencurtin 3 жыл бұрын
These cars were few and far between where I lived but when you saw one it looked so different you imagined yourself in a sc-fi movie while viewing it ghost along ..
@RetroGamerVX
@RetroGamerVX 4 жыл бұрын
I wish car designs were as brave and innovative as these these days. Citroen probably still one of the most daring, but still no patch on those days.
@oskarthompson3789
@oskarthompson3789 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla is doing so with the cybertruck, even honda to an extent with the honda e
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 4 жыл бұрын
@@oskarthompson3789 what's so bold about the Tesla?
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewLSsix They're bold because they are constantly testing how bad of a car they can deliver and the lemmings will still love them. Panel gaps galore, rusting after 6 months, painted like watercolor, using non automotive grade parts with wheels falling off and the lemmings still think that they're going to disruptively innovate all the OEM's out of business.
@joeyknight8272
@joeyknight8272 4 жыл бұрын
@@Perkelenaattori bull any proof? Most tesla owners love their tesla. Gaps are gone after the second generation. I was once like you but I realized I was wrong
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeyknight8272 You know it really doesn't take a lot of googling to see the quality of the cars. New pictures of the Model Y have proven the gaps haven't gone anywhere. Also the Tesla community is such that whenever someone on Twitter complains about their car there's 40 morons who tell him to shut up because Elon is going to take them all to Mars and that by airing out car issues they're causing the stock price to drop. Tesla is a cult like scientology.
@dimitardimitrov5366
@dimitardimitrov5366 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@Acarsfault
@Acarsfault 3 жыл бұрын
We had 2 Cx in our family. A Pallas and a Limousine. As a kid can’t forget the trip we did all across Europe with my father (RIp) at the wheel ...
@ronchabale
@ronchabale 3 жыл бұрын
Had an 82 and an 88, both great cars
@donvitocorleone3951
@donvitocorleone3951 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather still has one with less than 100k kilometers and it's amazing. The clutch screeches a bit though lol
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 4 жыл бұрын
It's such a car that it's worth some clutch love.
@markgw7961
@markgw7961 4 жыл бұрын
I owned 2 CXs, first a 1988 Series 2 in 1993 and a 1984 Series 1 in 1999. Both "GTi" models, which was a trim spec more than anything, there wasn't anything sporty about them, especially with the 3 speed Borg Warner auto in the Series 2. I loved the quirkiness but they were not very well built and rust became the major issue for both of them. Common problems all CX owners will recognize - handbrake adjustment - where did all your 2p pieces go? Rear swing arm bearings - having the modification done so they could be greased. Series 2 dashboard cubby hole hinges. Top "dog bone" engine mounts, "spider" hydraulic pipe failure, oil pressure sender failure (unnecessarily scary) etc, etc.
@newworldorder041
@newworldorder041 3 жыл бұрын
I learnt to drive and passed my test in the 2.4 ltr CX Pallas, awesome car. The driving test examiner was well impressed with the car, he told me the fisrt time he drove a Citreon was when they took it from the Germans during a Battle in the second world war, he said they were a little bit different now, ha ha.
@tedmalley7636
@tedmalley7636 4 жыл бұрын
Citroens have always been advanced and way ahead of everything else...example..The C6 sedan..
@darrenwilson8042
@darrenwilson8042 3 жыл бұрын
The CX GTI Turbo - the sophisticated hooligans choice of car
@marksterling8286
@marksterling8286 3 жыл бұрын
As a teenager I remember my parents getting a brand new CX25GTI Turbo. Every journey was an event, with the black headlining and the T shapes cut into the alloy wheels, it was an awesome car. It was a very different beast from the CX we had had a few years before.
@mj-mr5yu
@mj-mr5yu Ай бұрын
I got dropped off at school in a silver late 80s example once by my father who worked at a citroen garage in the 90s. I was heing picked on by some assholes there and he knew it, before i got out i spotted two of the culprits and he started revving the car in a threatening manner, slipping the clutch at the same time so she jerked forward slightly, 😂😂. It did no garm anyway! We owned plenty citroens including several bx's and a lovely gsa, but sadly never a cx. I owned a berlingo van for 10 years and it was one of the best vehicles i ever had, i currently drive a c4 picasso, i guess you could say im a citroen fan.
@edouardesk4535
@edouardesk4535 4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I had just gotten my driver's license. My brother had just bought a CX 2500 Pallas. He asked me if I could take it to the garage for servicing. I must admit that I was not reassured on board this boat. But what a pleasure and what a show-off! An unforgettable memory.
@graemekwhippy
@graemekwhippy 2 жыл бұрын
I too as a child was fascinated by the CX and poured over the brochure, a brochure I still have. My parents never owned one, but we did have a GS. Lovely ride but so unreliable.
@michaelsternberg1274
@michaelsternberg1274 4 жыл бұрын
Seduced by the plaudits of Car Magazine and in love with the space age looks, I bought one of the first new manual Gti versions in the UK in November 1977. Initially it was a great treat and quite wonderful. Then slowly fault after fault appeared. The gears became notch and a torment. The breakdowns were numerous and disabling. The AA men always had huge difficulties in making temporary repairs and I never found a garage which could service the car correctly. But it kept me safe when I was smashed into at great speed by a madly driven vast estate car; so in the end it came up trumps. The day before I part exchanged it, the clutch pedal fell off! It was a flawed masterpiece.
@COCOTEIER
@COCOTEIER 3 жыл бұрын
My dad let me drive his CX 2500D the first day I got my driving licence. It was in 1979.
@jeffallinson8089
@jeffallinson8089 4 жыл бұрын
Citroen made truly great cars back then, how the hell did it all go so horribly wrong?
@DJ-Brownie-UK
@DJ-Brownie-UK Жыл бұрын
one of my grandads lorry drivers had one and he used it to take the family to st.ives from south wales, then my uncle bought it until something broke and either the part was too expensive or something because it remained parked up for years later
@yhleray
@yhleray 4 жыл бұрын
You always tells those soties so well.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@wickiezulu
@wickiezulu 4 жыл бұрын
Have read Fiat/Lancia were also involved with the development of Project L for what eventually became the Lancia Gamma, additionally one Project L prototype apparently featured a 95 hp 1654cc Water-cooled Flat-Four engine of uncertain parentage or more specifically it is unknown whether the latter was an upscaled version of the GS Flat-Four, downscaled version of the Lancia Flat-Four used in the Flavia/Gamma or some other all-new water-cooled Citroen Flat-Four prototype engine that did not reach production (also read of a Flat-Six being looked at for the CX yet cannot find anymore details).
@jacovanlith5082
@jacovanlith5082 Жыл бұрын
The Citroën CX is like a Hasselblad 500 C/M photo camera. Great to use and never a dull moment because of the quality.
@telewiza
@telewiza 4 күн бұрын
There are still a lot of cx lovers, I can see that in the comments. And thank you for the video. However you made a small mistake you are talking about the Peugeot 605 what is clearly a 505. And I am missing the very interesting specials what have been made. Like the standard limousine and prestige, the East German extra long limousines, the six wheeler Tissier and the beautiful cx cabrio, to mention a few.
@TanzanianRoots
@TanzanianRoots 3 жыл бұрын
Had a CX 2400 Prestige as my daily driver in the early 2000's. Sweet car feels like a spaceship. till it smacked a tree....:(
@bhobg
@bhobg 4 жыл бұрын
Gosh what a delightfully weird French brand!
@elbecko7969
@elbecko7969 3 жыл бұрын
I hadn't realised the CX was a let down. I would live to own a GTI Turbo 2
@hugocass8381
@hugocass8381 4 жыл бұрын
I had two CX models, starting with a 1981 Pallas ie automatic, with disintegrating interior trim. That was the only car I've ever written off, but only after it had gone did I realise the genius design behind much of the interior (heater controls excepted). The hidden internal door handles were perfectly placed, as were the fingertip controls that fell so easily to hand (once pointed out); and the rotating drum instruments behind magnifying lenses seemed wacky until I drove something else and realised that the lens effectively placed the instruments at a focal point similar to the road ahead, so no need for the eyes to adjust when looking from one to the other. My second CX was a 1987 DTR Turbo which was better built, but quite unrefined and not as comfortable as the Pallas, but it was unwaveringly stable, even in strong crosswinds. Clearly, a great deal of clever aerodynamic design went into the CX, but it really had no hope against conventional offerings from Ford, Vauxhall, BMW etc.
@alexzenz760
@alexzenz760 3 жыл бұрын
Had also 2. 1978 and 85. Concept was far ahead, manufactering quality poor. .
@cretinaceous
@cretinaceous Жыл бұрын
I owned a CX 2.5 with fuel injection. It didn’t have a standard gearbox - it was driven hydraulically and you had 3 ratios uphill, ordinary and motorway. Most of the time you used standard - you started in it and remained in it unless you climbed a mountain or entered a freeway. I never noticed a lack of power nor speed. In fact, what drew my attention to it was the CXs flashing past me on the motorway. The dash layout was brilliant - you could make any change or adjustment without taking your eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel. There are many modern cars that could learn from the CX. It’s road stability was renowned. I’d love to own an update of it.
@vlaminggarrulus4785
@vlaminggarrulus4785 2 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine how the car would have looked without the smaller engine bay design criterium for the boxer motor. Probably more like the SM, a smaller version of it.
@Le_Rennais
@Le_Rennais 3 жыл бұрын
Rememember my parents in 1984 buying an used 1977 white CX 2000 Super for 10000 Frs. Very thirsty engine as daily used but could still pull a caravan with it
@willgeary6086
@willgeary6086 3 жыл бұрын
AMC did the same with the Pacer with the rotary engine. GM was supposed to supply it, but didn't make it so they had to fit there existing engines in, I imagine with a crowbar because there is no space under that hood.
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