Biggest Backie Competition - Japan vs USA | 2023 RS-R DRIFT FESTIVAL

Taking place at the hallowed Suzuka Twin Race Circuit, the RS-R Drift Festival welcomes eight of the world’s best drifters. They will be competing for the winner’s trophy while also demonstrating their unique drifting style to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the original Festival.
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[@Team_Goat]

First of its kind! A backie comp, with absolutely no backies! Amazing!

[@TheOtherPlayer]

I think the angle they chose isn't good to show it, but you can tell from how they drive into angle that they're past 90 on initiation. these dudes are definitely capable enough to follow the name of the comp

[@formuladrift]

It's also the turn we had to use. @@TheOtherPlayer

[@devilishly_jaded3308]

angle showed nicely and was multiple of them but has nothing to do with it. most drifts were just regular initiations, was not many backies at all (back tires in front of you not beside or else your just drifting) you can tell when they did it right cuz there trajectory will be different than a regular drift. And yes there capable of following the name of the comp but that dont mean they cant suck at backies. i watch people do them all the time irl and on youtube i know what im talking about and how to do them. All in all Formula drift usa is just loosing itself everyday trying to milk whatever they can out of it before people start realizing, japan should just take drifting back over and make it real again@@TheOtherPlayer

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

It's also the fact that half of the cars are from like 20 years ago before backies were even a thing and their setups reflect that

[@GloydMayweather]

@@formuladriftwhat’s stopping you from using the hairpin? Even had a camera. Like the idea tho

[@Slightly-above-average]

Chelsea should have definitely been invited to this. He’s the king of backies

[@taylorklassen1787]

Chelsea, mad mike, diago. Just a few that I thought for sure would be in a backie comp.

[@bbagz1680]

I think you spelt Naoki wrong

[@islandrebelz8716]

Masato Kawabata the goat

[@refuse2lose_ceo_]

Luke fink is backie king

[@formuladrift]

He was. Lots of drivers were asked. Traveling, especially during Thanksgiving is quite hard I'd imagine.

[@unheimliche9410]

get luke fink there. all of these were piss weak lol

[@offrimits]

luke "the backie daddy" fink

[@esreeves9544]

Came here to comment this lol

[@gripitripit]

Luke fink would crush this

[@griffinwelsh]

Ngl Ik Adam is a fanboy drifter but I feel he would do pretty good in this event especially with the mustang that man may drive like a physco but he can whip nasty entries with the mustang

[@brkinwrx6200]

@@griffinwelsh james deane also does some insane backies in his rx7 and e92 m3 car. his video at the nurburgring is crazy how much angle has.

[@garymapes6955]

💯 if anyone would be the king it's luke

[@nolimitsgolf]

As others have already said........You can't have a backie comp without Luke Fink 🇦🇺 SHIBBY 🤙I also agree that Chelsea Denofa would kill it also 👍

[@Joshubous]

These are totally the wrong camera ''angles' to make a backie look big

[@tshimologomolope7185]

I think the camera that was facing the cars is the only one that shows the backies well

[@tshimologomolope7185]

All of them didn't even do big backies only odi did one but a small one so they ahould get the grassroots guys in Japan. THose guys can huck

[@nevaehhope2008]

The was Only 2 big bakies. And the wernt even big

[@andreiabunan]

James deane can do better angles in his vlogs

[@law7116]

Very agreeable comment here, should be on right side of track for good angle or drone cam.

[@ericruss9426]

I can appreciate FD trying new things, shakes up the norm. It would be awesome to see a form of freestyle competition along with the usual competition rounds, it could be an exciting addition to the series.

[@TheLostYeti]

Would love to see a "Special Stage" in the US tour for the entire US roster to compete

[@invertedsun]

Hell yeah! i second this! They would just about throw a car away to show some spice and get backwards for the audience. These guys seems mostly unprepared. sounded like they didnt really get much time with the run and just kinda fell flat bc of that. Also, the camera angles were not the best. cant really see the cars angle bc of that.

[@yuta5926]

I was so happy to see these retired legends back in the car. also I did not expect them to bring RSR Supra and Apexi RX7 back, like damn, thats my childhood right there. imo, Apexi rx7 is still the best looking rx7

[@gruneflamme2013]

Still funny seeing Masuyama's US car there as a loaner. Absolute chad drove through the night to bring it to the event. He's really chill too. Theres a reason he's one of my favorite drivers in FD. You can always trust Hibino to throw his car in hard, he's got some wild style.

[@whiterhino7919]

Should have saved time and just let Chelsea, Luke and James throw down

[@XJR15ftw]

Man it's so great to see some of the OGs in competitive drifting, along with historic cars. Imamura's RX7 is timeless.

[@MIKEK3NT]

Back when D1 cars were street legal ehhehe

[@hammerswrenches2174]

Cool idea. They threw some decent angle. But I'm not sure I saw one Backie...

[@myronwalrond469]

Needs the king of backies....LUKE FINK!!!

[@S-Kidz]

Think they should of thrown luke fink in there hes a backie master

[@kzarnold3678]

Would have loved to see the RTR team there

[@gaudelio25]

Blegh, those 1000HP hyper-drift car machines would just make it worse for the fans who only wants to see just friendly-drifting. And take all the shine from those legendary RX7 and Supra.

[@804MRMAN]

*We need to get James Deane and Luke Fink American citizenship*

[@GB2G]

James knows how to throw reverse entries

[@mirrorproductions4260]

Needs Luke fink, mad mike and Denofa here!

[@LMGstudiosTV]

Luke Fink would have smashed this comp. Bakchis was the only one that could probs even come close.

[@05DoitforBrock]

🇦🇺👍 Luke Fink would have qualified 1 in his Ford Falcon !

[@luthfiadhityanto]

Imamura-San's FD Livery looks absolutely cool

[@shiftthegod__8946]

Naoki would throw the biggest backie forsure.

[@xander7099]

I like the approach to doing something new in comp like this

[@daltonhayhurst8501]

As a dirt driver. This is not backing it in no matter what the camera angle is.

[@_thedonutfiend]

If only Kawabata-san was here...

[@josebuenrostro5310]

Should of invited the RTR boys!!! Would of been awesome to see a mustang doing backies in Japan

[@formuladrift]

They were. Lots were. Only some could make it or sacrifice time with family during Thanksgiving.

[@sebastianhinchliffe3954]

That is not a 2jz bmw, that is a diesel

[@Vojum]

I wish the fd rx7 would’ve reversed entry too 🔥

[@NOnamedDRIFTER]

they needed a longer run up

[@thrill.issues]

They need to move the start WAY more back to do BACKIES! Where they start is where they need to be in high motion already. - sick to see all the legends tho! Chicken Skin. 🤘

[@Aidoss277]

Bring the backie comp to Australia. Blokes with $10k cars will show you how it’s done

[@ark-mark1]

Odi Bakchis is my absolute favourite. FEAL suspensions from the Zero to peak performance with the best trademarks, propably even better. Gotta raise my hat to that fellow. And he don't seem to age, as he has been on the top for ages. Proof that motorsports is good for your health and that Jesus did not lie, sayin "Humans don't live of bread only". You need to have fun and enjoy living. Work what you love to do, torturing yuorself for money, is a way to early grave. All can't be motorsports stars, but all can find a profession they love to do.

[@juddlythenomad4634]

I feel like FD could really use some more old school Hoongan "ain't care' vibes. Less rules, more passion. I've seen local drift days with more intense backies than this. Love the event, keep it going. Just want some real reverse entries lol

[@formuladrift]

Other people can do that. We have to focus on what makes careers and longevity. We don't need to be the answer for everyone.

[@mintyCS]

@@formuladrift That closed off mindset is what's stopping this from being something bigger.

[@formuladrift]

No, actually taking attention away from the thing that literally employs people and lets them live their dreams is actually a bad idea. There is a time and place for ancillary activities and we actually have done a lot of them: RSR, Turn 14 project of the same ilk, Nitto Day, SEMAFEST are all things we have constructed, 5 seasons of drifting development in Qatar, the first to ever drift Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi, the only Asian Championship that was broadcast on national television for 7 years, Formula DRIFT Asia....I think we do more than just the Series, but if you are talking about what moves the actual needle, it's building FD just like you would build something like the NFL Supercross or MLB. Homerun Derby contests and Big Air comps are cool; Passing exhibitions have their place, but they are not the foundation or what actually creates an industry, especially not at this early stage of only 20 years. @@mintyCS

[@AtomicPhoenix]

Ebisu Minami will forever hold the craziest entries

[@solstice9339]

Bring back the Hot Version JP vs USA tourney at Irwindale!!!!

[@deanturner7630]

Where's Luke Fink to clear this up for everyone..

[@Chris-od1jp]

7:49 I'm sure Orido appreciates being listed at 20 years younger than he actually is 😊🎉

[@JeffreyPerrault-hk6xe]

Whoever judged this competition doesn't have a fucking clue😮

[@formuladrift]

Dai Yoshihara, 2011 Formula DRIFT Champion and 19 year pro was the lead judge. A loser obviously.

[@KSwapTheWorld69]

Let's Go FormulaDRIFT!!! BACKIES FOR THE WIN! 💯💪🏽💯

[@bebespurs]

Nice, but we need more backies ;-)

[@futch_you]

Hibino is a beast! Love these types of comps! We need more of this

[@gabeh711]

Backie contents should be a regular thing for Formula D! BTW nobody mentioned what would happen if you brought on our boi Travis Pastrana as he's the king of backies - I mean the name of the car is called the "Huckster" LOL

[@nprwikeepa6082]

This is like Forza drift lobbies. The Americans wanna maximize the wide line and the Japanese wanna maximize speed

[@easyfromtnbtw3555]

lol that’s what I was thinking- where the hell is Luke I’ve seen him do bigger backies with like 3 other cars on track

[@user-gh5zo7vx4b]

too bad we got the worst camera angles

[@joz1751]

That's not a backie, or a good corner to demonstration Luke Fink can show ya's

[@law7116]

The tighter turn and better camera angles next time, I also would prefer this freestyle stuff more than the usual FD judging and setup.

[@stephenrawles89]

Luke Fink yer those that know, know that is one bloke that would love to be in this competition and just give him an AU Falcon or a Holden Commodore that's all he would need 🤣🤙🇦🇺

[@gabegabes6419]

It was just the wrong corner for this comp, the last turn at the end with u turn shape would have been perfect. The cam angle wasn't good to show the angle thrown either but love the idea

[@Smrwho]

Fredrick vanilla ice

[@SlashmanG]

I was about to watch, and then I heard Deanda’s voice Think I’ll go do something productive instead

[@driftozphotography]

was better backies on the last tighter corner than in the actual comp corner

[@Phantom-jce10]

13:13 this is the first one I seen and they didn’t even call it out. I think they made a mistake having them try it on the first turn.

[@MIKEK3NT]

FD street legal is the answer

[@unlocopsi]

Estas son las competencias que me gustan 😍

[@bigmikepimp2003]

I feel chelsea denofa should of been a part of this

[@S-Kidz]

"RSR ICHIBAN!'

[@ralmslb]

FD judges once again, showing their expertise when many of the runs were not even backies at all, just standard drifts...

[@formuladrift]

You judge what you get and the judge happened to be 2011 FD Champion, Daijiro Yoshihara, a clear loser obviously.

[@ralmslb]

@@formuladriftClearly doesn't know what a backie is or was a "Backie Champion" either. It's not just my opinion, its the majority of people in the comments.

[@formuladrift]

@@ralmslb Ask yourself if us producing an event for RSR and them coming up with a name for a portion of competition has anything to do with what we know or Dai knows. We are literally the oldest drifting organization in the world outside D1 and he is one of the oldest, most experienced drifters; I think both of us kinda know what stuff means in this space and we also know people say dumb things on the internet while probably having done exactly zero of the things they are critiquing.

[@ralmslb]

​@@formuladrift When you call an event "Biggest Backie Competition" and then solely focus on it with judges giving a score, the knowledge on the topic is important for fair scores. I think we both can agree on that. Then we watch the competition about backies, where essentially there is almost no backies preformed and yet very high scores. Backie being the ability for one to enter with the rear of the car first in a corner, which requires a lot of speed, power and driver control. Most of the runs were plain standard drifts, some good, but still, not a backie. You had Field first run, Bakchis second run, both pretty good but needed more speed and didn't deserve more than like an 80. With the best attempts I would say from Hibino first run that was like a 90 to 93 max. Also, being the oldest doing something in anything (regardless if an organization or person), doesn't automatically make you right on everything about that topic. Lastly, a very good athlete doesn't make a great referee or judge, often the opposite, the best athletes tend to not be good judging (we can see it on many sports). It's not the first time that FD organization refuses to accept criticism from the audience, assuming that the world is just a bunch of idiots and that only FD are the smart ones. If anything, people are really good at watching and judging, since they don't just watch FD. Remember, the best organizations in the world don't stay the best based on age...

[@formuladrift]

No, I just think you are taking it too seriously and giving too much credence to your own ruleset which is not the one that was decided by RSR. Why would we privilege your idea? Was it your event? No, it wasn't. If we have an understanding of what is possible on that turn and we create relational scoring and we also are trying to have fun, you will always have gradations and have to relativize the scores. Who cares what the numbers are? They are just a reflection of the scale the drivers were driving and it is just unimaginably pompous to think Dai Yoshihara, Ernie Fixmer and Andy Yen don't know what a backie is in a technical sense. You realize "Backie" is a much more fun and marketable term than "biggest initiation", right? You understand that basic principle? And whether or not the drivers could actually do it, is completely irrelevant to the naming PRIOR to the event. Next, we have no problem accepting valid criticism if indeed the criticism is a good one with the appropriate logical entailments, but that is a very rare situation. Secondly, I'm glad you agree with me that drivers are not necessarily the best judges. Maybe you should tell EVERY other fan that thinks the exact opposite. The entire premise of this event was giving back to the industry from RSR (literally hundreds of thousands of dollars spent), a fun event where the seriousness of a regular event simply washes away. That's why it makes sense to have Dai because he is a recognizable figure and he is Japanese! For me personally, I was there and had such a good time because it was about laughs and hanging with friends. No one could care less about some rando thinks about the names of events or their perception of good judging. Literally doesn't even register one iota because that was not the idea or the standard. Either try and have fun or get off the bus. @@ralmslb

[@jonathanrice-exec11]

Orido back with the OG RSR Supra and cowboy hat and flame racing suit. It's like bringing back an old WWF guy into the ring. lmfao amazing ~ Disappointed in these "backies"

[@burgerbait]

They should have just had people lapping the track with some judges sat on the corner watching. It doesn't have to be so serious. It sucks all the fun out of it.

[@kylecarnage]

Haven’t seen a single backie lol

[@jewfab]

When are the backies supposed to start?

[@shanegawne1334]

If a "backie" means that you enter the corner with the rear end of the car first then I never seen one during this whole comp smh.

[@stopdusty420]

Sugoi from Canada!!

[@eins2001]

Weeb

[@fahrezahakim8728]

What a bodykit s15 Tetsuya hibino?

[@apIthletIcc]

I watched this and still dont know what a backie is

[@scultura44]

How can you host a backie competition and not invite @Luke Fink!?!

[@formuladrift]

Because the event was constructed by RSR and they wanted old Japanese stars and modern FD guys who could transport together their cars from a singular location.

[@05DoitforBrock]

⁠@@formuladrift please some how get Luke a seat in FD , no more Denofa gunna be little boring 👍🇦🇺

[@censoredialogue]

cool idea, y'all just need drivers that can actually throw a damn backie lmfao

[@Philovski]

Just call it what it is, a best run/entry comp and get away from all the 'nOt bAcKiE' comments or need to run a specific corner in future.

[@formuladrift]

Backie is a way cooler term and it was what we would have liked to see. Obviously, commenters know much more about drifting than the drivers, but that's the point; once you get an online account you become an expert in everything. That's the cool part.

[@Philovski]

@@formuladrift hey man I've got a Reddit account and too much spare time, I am an expert! Joking aside I think this sort of format is good, it's always been a blast virtually, gives an opportunity for style to come through and negates car advantage on a reasonable layout.

[@formuladrift]

Let's go!@@Philovski

[@Mac-1Media]

the faked the crowd cheers haha

[@tommykhong6148]

Sorry but any Suzuka Twin fan knows that placing the start box at the start of the straight is crap for backies. This course calls for a running start up the straight. Thats how yall will find the “impactful” entry youre looking for

[@adrycartel]

Wow is that imamura rx7 apexi

[@ratedBforBeau]

Naoki Nakamura would have bodied this comp

[@rexmccutcheon2426]

Luke fink would have dominated this (best drifter on earth RTR please pick him up)

[@mitchellmfc]

These guys know what a backie is?

[@formuladrift]

Didn’t get the memo

[@bolognapony9390]

Kind of a let down of a video. Idk if I’ve ever been so excited and so let down in the same 20 min span.

[@markyarnold381]

Yanks got no idea, everyone knows aussies are the backie kings

[@danksnowbird]

Why didnt yous bring on Masato Kawabata an his blue 180?

[@timmah1588]

I get it, formula drift judges think you can't follow a car doing backies in comp. I think some tracks have a first corner where the lead car should be able to throw a backie (for extra style points or whatever you guys score these days) and the rest of the track be drifted as "normal". Nothing gets the fans as hyped as backies and imagine if the chase car was able to mimic on that first corner. If you guys can find a way to incorporate them into your "rules", it would only gain FD's popularity (I might even subscribe and start watching again lol).

[@timmah1588]

Flick does not equal backie. Asbo's first run had zero backie (if your car does not go over 90 degrees to the wall, not a backie). If you do not do a backie, you should not get a score over 50.

[@timmah1588]

I appreciate the effort FD, despite other negative comments. Even my comment seems negative, I just was drifting to become bigger. Closer door to door runs (not setting up rules that discourage tapping the lead driver) and backies are definitely the move. And I realize I am talking to the void and probably looks cringe lol.

[@33naki]

Imagine a backie comp on ebisu north. And instead of pros, it's just an "anyone can enter" comp. That's when we'd see some crazy skids

[@mikel3962]

Where is Chelsea to show them what a backing is

[@dylsk8r]

where are the backies other than odi

[@_Professor_Oak]

How you gonna do a reverse entry comp. without providing enough run-up to get an actual "backie" lol

[@formuladrift]

I guess because we told the drivers they could start as far back as they want. Maybe that’s why.

[@MfJester-n1b]

Where was Chelsea denova

[@MultiNinja888]

Where’s Luke Fink at lol

[@ns671fr]

Should have been same country both car and driver

[@ksams0987]

Not a single car went past 90°

[@kingleonidas3335]

where is kawabata???? he did a perfect backy drift long time ago...

[@formuladrift]

Invited

[@ITJon]

Needs Naoki

[@foxxstain]

they gave Dilan 86after that, should've be a 50

[@629jatto]

Is this really serious? Did the legendary IMAMURA completing the route score fewer points than those who rode it or didn't even complete it? I hope it's just a joke

[@firedustman]

when was it ?

[@SmellDownUndah]

Huge let down, make it look like only one American can backie. Too bad this had such low viewership they had to reupload it

[@formuladrift]

We uploaded each aspect of competition separately. Typical strategy so each part of comp can be distinct and also the live broadcast can still stand on its own. Pretty basic stuff.

[@jakebrown4870]

The run up is nowhere near long enough

[@themuffinman25]

should have been no outside zone 1 marked. all about the flick and over rotating

[@michaelwesten3532]

I think I'll go find a way to watch final bout instead of FD. FD kinda has lost its way of grassroots drifting. Don't get me wrong, watching pros drift is awesome but it's more about sponsorship then the actual driver and car, to me at least.

[@MyHighHorse]

Nice try but the announcer doesn’t know the difference between a 2j and a diesel. And your camera angles sucked.

[@RebelDrifter]

Hibino is really really such a dope drifter! I do wonder why Chelsea wasn't here - I know he stepped out for a bit but isn't he like the biggest backwards entry type bro? :D Either way cool vid!!! Thanks.

[@lyndoncobb7077]

Traffic cutters and Takeover guys could never and will never 🤣🤣🤣 they think roll backs take skill and for some reason every idiot is impressed by that